I have Nexus 6 + Pure Nexus Android 7.1.1. I have blocked google.com with OpenDNS. Android seems to be using it to check if wifi is online. I am now wondering is there some way to change that? If i have to decide do i want to keep google blocked or use wi-fi on my phone i must decide to keep google blocked because of many reasons. If someone have idea how to change that google.com to some another page would be very helpful. Wi-Fi is saying "connected but no internet connection" when google.com is blocked.
Either you live in China or you're being excessively paranoid if you feel you have to block Google at the DNS level. So does the wifi function when not using OpenDNS?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Either you live in China or you're being excessively paranoid if you feel you have to block Google at the DNS level. So does the wifi function when not using OpenDNS?
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Wifi works great until i block google.com (it gets blocked when i block search engines category.) If i allow it wi-fi works normally but i am using OpenDNS mostly to block google so its kind of bad issue. My wi-fi says "connected, but no internet connection" when google.com is blocked. I am wondering is there some way to change google to test internet connection from some other site.
Do you have Google apps installed?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Do you have Google apps installed?
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Yes, what does it matter?
Google's apps all phone home to Google, especially Play Services and the Google App. When you block Google through OpenDNS, which I assume is the Android version, those apps cannot do their jobs effectively. If you want to block Google, though why is beyond me, you'll have to forego the Google apps as well. That means looking for alternatives for each Google app. A simpler solution is to let the device connect to Google.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
No, you simply decided that you were going to cop an attitude towards someone who was trying to help you. Someone whose reputation is pretty much unimpeachable.
Out of sight, out of mind. Don't bother replying, as you're a knuckle-dragging lackwit who can't compete with me.
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Read your answers and wonder how did you try to help me? If i would have been someone living in china you would have asked me to buy another phone or move another country?
"Letting the device connect to Google IS the answer. It's just one you don't like."
That helps people in china alot even there would have been working solution which was beyond your abilities.
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T-Mobile replaced my 1 week old phone with this brand new beauty.
The store manager kind of set things up in the store (guess he thought quicker than giving to this old man who is slower than molasses.
So, reading tips and tricks this the S6, I found a part about setting up Google now for my personal assistant. I go to the app box and there are lots of Google stuff but nothing that says Google now. Help please.
Then, he set up lookout but I read people say delete that one and use Knox that comes with phone. Help with that please.
Finally, How do I set up my Samsung account on the phone. I can find tons that say "to do it" but unable to find explanations on how to.
Thank you all.
Google now is part of the Google app (blue google icon). Once you open it, look for the hamburger and there are settings were you can turn on certain cards you want.
Lookout is garbage. I don't think you can remove it, I believe you can only disable it. Lookout is an antivirus/malware scanner, while Knox is a bit different. Knox is several different pieces of software that ensures your phone hasn't been tampered with software wise to ensure the device is a trusted platform. It's mainly a concern for enterprise users, if you don't use it, it should be transparent and can be left alone.
Go to one of the Samsung apps - the Galaxy Apps one is probably your best bet, and just create an account there.
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Google now is part of the Google app (blue google icon). Once you open it, look for the hamburger and there are settings were you can turn on certain cards you want.
Lookout is garbage. I don't think you can remove it, I believe you can only disable it. Lookout is an antivirus/malware scanner, while Knox is a bit different. Knox is several different pieces of software that ensures your phone hasn't been tampered with software wise to ensure the device is a trusted platform. It's mainly a concern for enterprise users, if you don't use it, it should be transparent and can be left alone.
Go to one of the Samsung apps - the Galaxy Apps one is probably your best bet, and just create an account there.
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Thank you very much. Should we install any type of antivirus/malware protection?
nakedland said:
Thank you very much. Should we install any type of antivirus/malware protection?
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I don't think it's necessary unless you're looking to install apps from third party sites. If you stick to downloading from the google play store, you can skip the virus/malware scanners IMO.
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I don't think it's necessary unless you're looking to install apps from third party sites. If you stick to downloading from the google play store, you can skip the virus/malware scanners IMO.
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Grazie :good::good:
Has anyone tried using NetGuard or another firewall to prevent Amazon services from phoning home?
I have 5.3.1.0 on my Fire, so no root. But fortunately NetGuard doesn't need root.
I'm trying to find exactly which packages to block and allow to make sure Amazon can't update my OS, and preferably also block ads, while allowing the Play Store.
The problem I have been running into is that NetGuard lumps some services/apps together, so if I try to enable, for example, Android Contact Storage, it also enabled all of the Amazon contact related options, including all the social media connectors.
I haven't found a combination that allows me to login to Google but prevents system updates.
Has anyone successfully done this? I'd love some tips or maybe even an export of your NetGuard config.
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Has anyone tried using NetGuard or another firewall to prevent Amazon services from phoning home?
I have 5.3.1.0 on my Fire, so no root. But fortunately NetGuard doesn't need root.
I'm trying to find exactly which packages to block and allow to make sure Amazon can't update my OS, and preferably also block ads, while allowing the Play Store.
The problem I have been running into is that NetGuard lumps some services/apps together, so if I try to enable, for example, Android Contact Storage, it also enabled all of the Amazon contact related options, including all the social media connectors.
I haven't found a combination that allows me to login to Google but prevents system updates.
Has anyone successfully done this? I'd love some tips or maybe even an export of your NetGuard config.
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This approach has proven unreliable on various Amazon device going all the way back to 2nd gen Tate:
- you can't block the relevant OTA services without root
- blocking by IP is only a temporary fix as Amazon rotates addresses
Despite claims to the contrary no local 'firewall' can be 100% effective without root access.
Davey126 said:
Despite claims to the contrary no local 'firewall' can be 100% effective without root access.
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Thank you for the info. Just to be 100% sure, are you aware that NetGuard functions as a local VPN service, rather than using iptables? When connected to a VPN, the device should be sending all traffic that way. Whether it does or not, I can't actually say.
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Thank you for the info. Just to be 100% sure, are you aware that NetGuard functions as a local VPN service, rather than using iptables? When connected to a VPN, the device should be sending all traffic that way. Whether it does or not, I can't actually say.
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Yes, I was aware but good to ask the question. A VPN *should* capture all traffic. Whether it does on FireOS is the $64K question. To my knowledge there are no widespread reports of VPN effectiveness blocking Amazon OTA updates, but that could simply reflect the limited number of attempts. Until recently VPNs were rather difficult to understand/implement for most non-technical users.
so, i've tried a lot of methods and seems like the best i can do is logging into google play store, but not youtube and other google apps?
couldn't sign in
there was a problem communicating with google servers.
try again later.
need some guidance here, how do i get everything to work?
i found out that there's a bug for data vs wifi - you need to connect to wifi in order to sign in.
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i found out that there's a bug for data vs wifi - you need to connect to wifi in order to sign in.
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I can confirm this, apps like "Google", "Voice Search" and "Assistant" time out with errors when using data on T-Mobile, but it works on wifi. I can't navigate to a street using assistant over 4G, but if I go directly into the Maps app and use the microphone icon in Maps it works correctly.
Does anyone know if there's a fix for this?
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I can confirm this, apps like "Google", "Voice Search" and "Assistant" time out with errors when using data on T-Mobile, but it works on wifi. I can't navigate to a street using assistant over 4G, but if I go directly into the Maps app and use the microphone icon in Maps it works correctly.
Does anyone know if there's a fix for this?
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is it just for Tmobile or google services don't work on any mobile data?
Go to Apps & Notifications > Google services
Same issue
I am having similar issues. But, at one point google play store was stuck on loading. Also, gmail wasnt sending or receiving emails.
The problem comes and goes. Like, just now, I couldn't load any YouTube videos.
When I connect on WiFi, all the problems go away and switching back to mobile data. Works for a bit.
It is also only Google services. Twitter, WhatsApp, chrome, all fine.
@op, what sim card slot are you using?
Got it to work.
Go to System -> Applications -> Google Services
And turn on "Allow to use Mobile Data"
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Go to System -> Applications -> Google Services
And turn on "Allow to use Mobile Data"
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For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
Romez123 said:
For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
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If you go to Settings -> Applications -> See all ### Apps -> [scroll to and tap on Outlook app] -> Data Usage -> [turn on "Background Data", and "Unrestricted Data Usage" options]
Tell me if that works. I did this step for apps: Calendar [google version from Play Store], Carrier Services [from Play Store] Gmail, Google, Google Play, Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Hangouts.
I gave them all unrestricted data access and full permissions just to be safe. It's not like there's a risk of running out of battery on this phone, lol!
edit: I am on the China rom version and I see these settings.
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For me Ms Outlook can't show notif but if wifi on its show notif incoming email,
Don't see "allow to use mobile data" options in that menu
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I flashed into the WW version. So, all my little issues went away.
My instructions was for Google services.
Have your tried to go to battery optimisation and turning off optimisation for Outlook?
Also, there might be something under mobile manager to turn off as well?
Hi! I specifically made an account to reply, or rather, to reconfirm, that issues about this topic still persists in my phone.
Bought the Tencent Edition of the ROG Phone 2 few days back, I first encounter this issue yesterday when I open my Maps app and the map didn't load (grey screen) and at that time I was using my mobile data. Searched the net how to fix it, and did a few tweaks (mainly clearing cache, data and removing google account) and thankfully the map loads. However, another issue arises, I can't use Google app, Play Store and can't login on Google Maps. When I try to log in my account, I get the "There was a problem communicating with Google servers", and I assume most of you guys here had that exact problem.
I tried everything that almost every forums recommends. Starting from rebooting the phone, uninstalling updates from Google Play Store, clear the cache and storage of Google Play services and Google Play Store again, checked if my Apps & notifications/Google Services is on, turned on all notifications; permissions; background data and unrestricted data usage on all corresponding Google apps and services (Carrier Services, Google app, Google Play services, Google Play Store, Maps) and turned off battery optimization for the mentioned apps. Not any of the above worked for me, the only thing that resolves it is when I used Wifi to log in.
I know that this may be a minor issue and I know that I won't feel any of it hindering my daily phone usage. But I'm really bothered by the fact that something in my phone doesn't work normally as it should. I have been using Samsung phones for the longest time and haven't experienced such problems before. Is this really a bug and can't be fixed till who knows when, or is there something that I overlooked? Thanks much and sorry for the lenghty post. Blessings
cn version has this issue
fixed with ww rom
cn version is destinated to oriental market especcially
Thanks much for the help!
I don't have any experience in modding ROM, but I did find a guide here on how to do that. I'll think about whether I'm gonna try flashing my ROM or not, because... flashing ROMs will void the phone's warranty, yes?
Aeonika said:
Thanks much for the help!
I don't have any experience in modding ROM, but I did find a guide here on how to do that. I'll think about whether I'm gonna try flashing my ROM or not, because... flashing ROMs will void the phone's warranty, yes?
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If you bought a phone that was meant for the Chinese market in another country, you never really had a legit warranty right to begin with. (at least not with Asus, maybe with the seller if they have such policies)
Chinese ROMs have all Google services blocked. (Google services are banned in China). So you need to flash to WW ROM, sometimes seller will do it when they sell a Chinese phone to a different market, but apparently not in your case.
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If you bought a phone that was meant for the Chinese market in another country, you never really had a legit warranty right to begin with. (at least not with Asus, maybe with the seller if they have such policies)
Chinese ROMs have all Google services blocked. (Google services are banned in China). So you need to flash to WW ROM, sometimes seller will do it when they sell a Chinese phone to a different market, but apparently not in your case.
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That makes sense lol.
Alright, I'll try flash my ROM later. Any noob-friendly guide you can recommend to me? Other than the guide by AryanAA.
And um, I know I can probably learn this if I searched for it, but does flashing your ROM resets/wipes your whole phone? And is there any major changes I should know (like maybe I won't be able to use some features ever again)? And is it kinda similar to rooting your phone?
Sorry for the noob questions, any help is much appreciated. Tqvm!
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That makes sense lol.
Alright, I'll try flash my ROM later. Any noob-friendly guide you can recommend to me? Other than the guide by AryanAA.
And um, I know I can probably learn this if I searched for it, but does flashing your ROM resets/wipes your whole phone? And is there any major changes I should know (like maybe I won't be able to use some features ever again)? And is it kinda similar to rooting your phone?
Sorry for the noob questions, any help is much appreciated. Tqvm!
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Hi was your issue fixed? I'm having same issues on Rog Phone 2, YouTube, Gmail, Google drive won't load with 3h/4g, they only load with WiFi. Have you for a fix ? Please reply
Hi guys, coming back to the forums after a long hiatus!
I have this issue also... Gapps don't work great on mobile data but perfect on WiFi... Some are fixed after clearing data but some are persistently bad such as gdrive which is important to me...
My phone is from ebay, its a tencent with a global rom and I'm in the UK...
Looking at my device info, it looks like my phone has a WW rom but a CN fingerprint... I will have the fingerprint changed today, update to 1910 and drop an update...
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Hi guys, coming back to the forums after a long hiatus!
I have this issue also... Gapps don't work great on mobile data but perfect on WiFi... Some are fixed after clearing data but some are persistently bad such as gdrive which is important to me...
My phone is from ebay, its a tencent with a global rom and I'm in the UK...
Looking at my device info, it looks like my phone has a WW rom but a CN fingerprint... I will have the fingerprint changed today, update to 1910 and drop an update...
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Once you've changed the fingerprint and fully converted to WW, the issues will all be fixed ????
phones now on WW 1910 rom and fingerprint - everything is perfect so far!
Hi guys. could somebody please explain what does it mean when u say changed to we ROM and fingerprint? And how do u do it? I have bought rog 2 recently but am not able to sign in to Google account on it over 4g or WiFi from another 4g phone(hotspot).
Stupid question. Is the free VPN from Google now available on the Pixel 7 or is that coming out later?
From my understanding it will only be available (free) on the Pixel 7 & 7 pro but it isn't on the phone yet. It will be downloaded during the Pixel Feature drop (aka software update) that will come in December.
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Stupid question. Is the free VPN from Google now available on the Pixel 7 or is that coming out later?
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Think carefully before enabling this. Google already knows a lot about you. Do you really want them to know *EVERYTHING*? IMO, you use VPN's in order to AVOID the likes of google tracking you.
I would recommend using a separate VPN. Google earns money by using your data for advertising; this is why VPN apps that block ads are banned from the Play Store. Using a Google VPN just means that they get exclusive access to your data, and will continue to use it for their own profits. It's also worth noting that Google has been more than cooperative with governments seeking information and data on subscribers. If you intend to use a VPN for security and anonymity, I don't think Google is the right solution.
I personally use NordVPN with the app directly from their website.
I think they said it will be available to all 7/7P users from December, for a few years.
Google VPN comes to 7/7 Pro in December per Google:
Increase your online security with VPN by Google One - Android - Google One Help
If you want more protection from hackers and online monitoring, you can make your connection more secure with a virtual private network (VPN) by Google One. Turn on VPN by Google One in the Google One
support.google.com
Hi everybody!
I recently received my X90 pro plus, after debloating the phone I wanted to connect the credit card to google wallet, after several fails, googling and looking up at the threads here what could I've been doing wrong I saw on google play that "Device is not certified" after that I've downloaded a SafetyNet Test app and to my suprise the test failed on the "CTS profile match". From what i've read it mostly fails on phones with root, but besides debloat I haven't done anything else. Did anybody had similar issue and managed to fixed it?
You should not be using SafetyNet to determine whether your device meets security requirements. SafetyNet has been replaced by Play Integrity.
Oh, didn't know that, thanks for the info . So I've checked security requirements with Play Integrity API Checker and managed to pass only on basic integrity :/, I assume that I should pass in at least in device and basic integrity, right? But the main question is does it have an impact on successfully adding a card to google wallet (I've updated already a google play store, and play services to the latest version which was recommended on other threads)
Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you. I'll also post my own follow-up when they reply.
You have mis matches with your google services.
Play services, play store/framework cannot auto update themselves from Play store itself. Vivo crap store has them often outdated. No way around periodically installing them as APK or install APKPure AppStore and make sure vivo store doesn't ever start and downgrade them again or switches apps to their own version for spying and making money from adds (many apps if installed from Vivo store will play out adds via vivo contracts - Or better BBK). Of course bbk also offers some apps they have no contracts with and then it's just a copy from Play store..apps that have widespread use in China no matter where from are mainly affected.
On funtouch this problem doesn't exist, maybe that's the main reason the global versions are so expensive, Vivo expects to make a cut from advertisement, which they can only do on China OS (or mainly)
Could you please explain a little clearer?
I installed APK Pure store. Saw there was an update for Google Play Store.
I updated it.
Seems Google Play Services, and
Google Services Framework are both the latest version.
I ran Integrity Checker:
MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY: FALSE
MEETS_BASIC_INTEGRITY: TRUE
MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY: FALSE
SafetyNet still says: CTS Profie match. FALSE
So what would be the next step? I just want Google Wallet to work and I've heard its possible.
@luontokoodaus I've received a reply from Trading, they already got a few complains about safetyNet/integrity failing on the vivo, but they said that the next software update should fix the issue. Later I asked them if I should wait for the update or is there any other potencial fix. After that I just got a return request with slip from them without any answers to my previous question (that is a little weird tbh)
These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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The difference I see in my test is that my "Evaluation type" runs as BASIC not HARDWARE_BACKED, dunno why
I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
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So not only a problem with Trading Shenzhen then. Weird. Well I sure hope the next software update helps.
I've contacted TS for a partial refund seeing as their product page says that they guarantee that you can use banking apps and payment apps like Google Wallet. I asked for a 10% refund.
Looks like the only step at this stage is to wait and hope a software update fixes it (very unlikely)
or
Use another phone for these apps
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Root the phone entirely and hope that Magisk can keep the SafetyNet/Play Integrity status hidden from other apps.
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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you're reply looks like a bot from Vivo... I posted something useful - google services framework needs to be updated too - because the v-crapstore version is often outdated. Same as the versions for play services and play store. Only if all three versions are up to date will wallet work. And that means manual updating of these apps quite often.
Oh yeah before I didn't check, apkpure doesn't have services framework - it's available on some other sites however.
Check your framework - that has always been the solution to google wallet problems on Vivo. Just because you cannot read comprehensively not my problem.
And software updates won't fix it as long as Vivo crapstore has outdated versions of many apps - google is just one example but many other apps there are often outdated vs play store.
That has no consequences for most apps - but with google it has. On some apps it's actually more up to date sometimes - Like apps from Tencent (wechat) and maybe some more Chinese apps.
And rooting the phone will likely not be possible in any foreseeable future....
Latest trial version (19.2)
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Issue sorted?
Could be. Find it kind of ironic he posts this after making that idiotic rant thread about how these phones aren't supposed to work with Google when they clearly are more than capable of doing so if the developer gives a damn. Not sure also what is the point of making two OSes when you can just make one which CAN support Google even if you don't immediately ship it with Google apps because no one in China uses it.
I am not in a huge rush to get Google Wallet working, so I'll wait until this update is taken off trial and into the stable branch. If it does work though and I can use Google Wallet afterward, then this will be a 100% perfect buy for me so far.
Same here - it's the last thing I need to work and I can't fault the phone.