Hi everybody!
I recently received my X90 pro plus, after debloating the phone I wanted to connect the credit card to google wallet, after several fails, googling and looking up at the threads here what could I've been doing wrong I saw on google play that "Device is not certified" after that I've downloaded a SafetyNet Test app and to my suprise the test failed on the "CTS profile match". From what i've read it mostly fails on phones with root, but besides debloat I haven't done anything else. Did anybody had similar issue and managed to fixed it?
You should not be using SafetyNet to determine whether your device meets security requirements. SafetyNet has been replaced by Play Integrity.
Oh, didn't know that, thanks for the info . So I've checked security requirements with Play Integrity API Checker and managed to pass only on basic integrity :/, I assume that I should pass in at least in device and basic integrity, right? But the main question is does it have an impact on successfully adding a card to google wallet (I've updated already a google play store, and play services to the latest version which was recommended on other threads)
Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
luontokoodaus said:
Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you. I'll also post my own follow-up when they reply.
You have mis matches with your google services.
Play services, play store/framework cannot auto update themselves from Play store itself. Vivo crap store has them often outdated. No way around periodically installing them as APK or install APKPure AppStore and make sure vivo store doesn't ever start and downgrade them again or switches apps to their own version for spying and making money from adds (many apps if installed from Vivo store will play out adds via vivo contracts - Or better BBK). Of course bbk also offers some apps they have no contracts with and then it's just a copy from Play store..apps that have widespread use in China no matter where from are mainly affected.
On funtouch this problem doesn't exist, maybe that's the main reason the global versions are so expensive, Vivo expects to make a cut from advertisement, which they can only do on China OS (or mainly)
Could you please explain a little clearer?
I installed APK Pure store. Saw there was an update for Google Play Store.
I updated it.
Seems Google Play Services, and
Google Services Framework are both the latest version.
I ran Integrity Checker:
MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY: FALSE
MEETS_BASIC_INTEGRITY: TRUE
MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY: FALSE
SafetyNet still says: CTS Profie match. FALSE
So what would be the next step? I just want Google Wallet to work and I've heard its possible.
@luontokoodaus I've received a reply from Trading, they already got a few complains about safetyNet/integrity failing on the vivo, but they said that the next software update should fix the issue. Later I asked them if I should wait for the update or is there any other potencial fix. After that I just got a return request with slip from them without any answers to my previous question (that is a little weird tbh)
These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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The difference I see in my test is that my "Evaluation type" runs as BASIC not HARDWARE_BACKED, dunno why
I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
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So not only a problem with Trading Shenzhen then. Weird. Well I sure hope the next software update helps.
I've contacted TS for a partial refund seeing as their product page says that they guarantee that you can use banking apps and payment apps like Google Wallet. I asked for a 10% refund.
Looks like the only step at this stage is to wait and hope a software update fixes it (very unlikely)
or
Use another phone for these apps
or
Root the phone entirely and hope that Magisk can keep the SafetyNet/Play Integrity status hidden from other apps.
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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you're reply looks like a bot from Vivo... I posted something useful - google services framework needs to be updated too - because the v-crapstore version is often outdated. Same as the versions for play services and play store. Only if all three versions are up to date will wallet work. And that means manual updating of these apps quite often.
Oh yeah before I didn't check, apkpure doesn't have services framework - it's available on some other sites however.
Check your framework - that has always been the solution to google wallet problems on Vivo. Just because you cannot read comprehensively not my problem.
And software updates won't fix it as long as Vivo crapstore has outdated versions of many apps - google is just one example but many other apps there are often outdated vs play store.
That has no consequences for most apps - but with google it has. On some apps it's actually more up to date sometimes - Like apps from Tencent (wechat) and maybe some more Chinese apps.
And rooting the phone will likely not be possible in any foreseeable future....
Latest trial version (19.2)
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Issue sorted?
Could be. Find it kind of ironic he posts this after making that idiotic rant thread about how these phones aren't supposed to work with Google when they clearly are more than capable of doing so if the developer gives a damn. Not sure also what is the point of making two OSes when you can just make one which CAN support Google even if you don't immediately ship it with Google apps because no one in China uses it.
I am not in a huge rush to get Google Wallet working, so I'll wait until this update is taken off trial and into the stable branch. If it does work though and I can use Google Wallet afterward, then this will be a 100% perfect buy for me so far.
Same here - it's the last thing I need to work and I can't fault the phone.
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Recently, my Note has been unable to purchase new Market apps. Once I find the app in the Market, upon clicking the purchase button I usually get an error like "unable to find the app." Sometimes I've gotten another error like "unable to purchase now." Since I'd already purchased a lot of apps for my S2, they all installed on my Note, no problem, since they show as already purchased. So I haven't had much need to purchase new stuff for the Note. Today, though, I installed trials for a few apps. Since I liked them, I went to purchase keys for each, but got this "not found" b.s. after clicking the price button. Three times seemed pretty suspicious, so I moved my sim card back from the Note to the S2 (in case that makes a difference), and I successfully purchased all three keys from the S2 in the normal way.
I should mention that my Note couldn't find one of the keys using Market search, so I had to scan the QR code from AppBrain, which then found it. My S2 didn't require such assistance. I've actually had that problem before, but the QR search always worked around the problem.
I need to use Market Enabler from my location, and as far as I can tell it's configured on my Note exactly the same way as my S2.
In fact, I had the same problem a couple of days ago with TrevE's Logging TestApp, but the next day it was able to purchase from the Note.
Is there anyone else experiencing similar inexplicable purchasing weirdness with their Note? Or any suggestions as to how to get my Note working properly with the Market?
I know that the Android Market itself has been giving some trouble recently during the 10 Billion promotion... So it might be that.
For example, right now, I'm able to purchase Smart Task Switcher Pro key on my S2, while at the same time I'm unable to purchase it from my Note. So it seems to be a Note issue and not a Market issue. And it's only with paid apps.
What's worse, even though I purchased it for my S2, it shows as unpurchased on my Note, so I have no way of getting this app on my Note.
Same here, it's my first android phone where I can't purchase apps even with the help of market enabler...
I can find the apps, but the market says "You can't buy this app in your country".
I tried everything, proxy servers, vpn servers, airplane mode, nothing works.
I'm screwed
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Same here, it's my first android phone where I can't purchase apps even with the help of market enabler...
I can find the apps, but the market says "You can't buy this app in your country".
I tried everything, proxy servers, vpn servers, airplane mode, nothing works.
I'm screwed
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My problem's different: I'm able to purchase plenty of apps, and Market Enabler is verified working for me for a long time. I never get the error "You can't buy this app in your country." I get this error message: "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found."
In your case, you've never verified that you have a correct configuration for Market Enabler. Of course, you first rooted your phone, right? Otherwise, Market Enabler won't work.
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My problem's different: I'm able to purchase plenty of apps, and Market Enabler is verified working for me for a long time. I never get the error "You can't buy this app in your country." I get this error message: "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found."
In your case, you've never verified that you have a correct configuration for Market Enabler. Of course, you first rooted your phone, right? Otherwise, Market Enabler won't work.
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Yes of course I'm rooted and I used market enabler for a couple years and across different android phones and it always worked before. Maybe it's the new market...
Just like you I find the app, click on purchase button, and then get this country message even though I'm on a US proxy or vpn, with market enabler set on a US carrier.
We don't have the same error message, but the end result is the same, we can't buy apps.
The first time I had an error it said something like: the country where you registered your phone doesn't allow you to purchase applications.
It looks like if at one time or another the system knows you are not in the right country, then you are on some sort of black list or something like that. Then you can do everything you want, it does not matter because your account is flagged !!!
Just a theory... I hope I'm wrong, because otherwise we are screwed big time.
So, it's only your Note that fails? That is my problem. Up till now, I've gotten around it by purchasing from my S2, then installing the already purchased app on my Note. But with this one app (Smart Task Switcher), it just won't install on the Note. I emailed the developer. But yes, if we can't use the Market from our Notes with Market Enabler, that's depressing. And there won't be any help from places that don't need Market Enabler.
I found a workaround:
Freeze Android Market 1.0 with Titanium so the market doesn't update itself, uninstall market updates, I can now buy apps !!!
With Market Enabler of course...
Oh yeah, I seem to remember that solution from a while back when they updated the Market app. As I recall, I reverted to 1.0, and then did the updates again, and then it worked.
In any case, I don't think you can be 100% sure what worked for you because suddenly yesterday I was able to purchase that app that was being reported as "not found" after I'd click the "$2.49" button. When I finally purchased it, Market now reported some kind of payment irregularity, but then the app downloaded and installed. When I see my bill, I'll know if the payment was processed correctly. I've had this same b.s. before where I find an app, click to buy, and then get a "not found" reported, but it never before stretched on for days.
Even with uninstalling updates I get the "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found".
I am rooted and use marketenabler.
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Even with uninstalling updates I get the "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found".
I am rooted and use marketenabler.
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My latest workaround is to do:
Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Market>Uninstall updates
and then immediately complete the purchase. This seems to reenable Market Enabler just long enough to purchase. I can't seem to figure out how to prevent Market from updating, but at least purchases are enabled long enough for me to complete them.
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My latest workaround is to do:
Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Market>Uninstall updates
and then immediately complete the purchase. This seems to reenable Market Enabler just long enough to purchase. I can't seem to figure out how to prevent Market from updating, but at least purchases are enabled long enough for me to complete them.
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Tried that but then there are no paid apps only free ones then a few minutes later our reverts back to the latest version.
i don't know about buying apps as I get something new every two months or so, but Market 3.4.4 and the earlier version are taking a really long time to load, or it sometimes just hangs. I'm on LA4 but had the same issue when I was on KL7.
Oh and market enabler hasn't been working for quite a while too, on both my Note and NookColor, even when paired with Market 2.XX. Not sure what has happened!
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Even with uninstalling updates I get the "The item you were attempting to purchase could not be found".
I am rooted and use marketenabler.
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Yeah, this Market Enabler situation is really messing us up. I don't know why what worked for me worked for me, and there's no telling when my workaround will quit working. I wonder why Android phones are so popular in Market-disabled countries. Since the average person doesn't even root their phone, they buy these Android phones with no intention of ever getting the best apps for it.
Here's how i manage to buy paid apps on my Note:
Go to Google Play on PC,sign in,buy the required app,go to market on Note,install the app(the download link will be active n available after payment thru PC).btw,i use VPN to change the IP location on my PC(to USA or Canada)...
Based on various news outlet (example: http://www.androidcentral.com/updated-google-wallet-app-coming-all-us-based-android-phones), Google has launched an updated Google Wallet app that will WORK with ALL carriers.
Previously, when I installed Google Wallet on my S4A, starting it will give men an error about my device is "not compatible", which is a given since AT&T pretty much blocked Google Wallet.
The new Wallet app supposed to rectify this problem. I updated today, launched the app and did NOT get the error above. I am now presented with a screen that asked which Gmail account I want to use for the Wallet App.
I selected my primary Gmail account, which I used to purchase apps and other Google subscriptions service and I got a:
"Failed to add account. An error has occurred while adding your account"
My web-based Google Wallet is fine, otherwise I won't be able to pay for stuff in Google Play.
Anyone get the new Google Wallet to work in the S4A?
I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
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I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
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No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
I installed it on my I537 last night (or earlier today, I honestly can't remember, bleh) and set everything up but a) I don't have a legit Samsung battery at the moment so no NFC capability anyway (real battery should be here tomorrow, actually), and b) after reading up on the device support at Google's support site it looks as though there are two primary requirements for Google Wallet to function:
1) a device with NFC that is supported by Google Wallet
2) a carrier that supports Google Wallet also
Now, looking over the info again at the following link:
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/1347934?hl=en
it does show that the Galaxy S4 is eligible which should mean the Galaxy S4 Active is included as well, it's the same basic hardware for the most part but, the issue then becomes is your carrier one that supports it, and according to the info on that page the Galaxy S4 (and by similarity in hardware, the Galaxy S4 Active) is only supported for Google Wallet using Sprint, US Cellular, and Google Play so if you're not using one of those you're/we're out of luck - I use T-Mobile and will test out Google Wallet over the weekend with the new battery. I get why Sprint and US Cellular are mentioned: because they ARE cellular carrier providers, but Google Play isn't so that's somewhat confusing why they'd mention it specifically.
Oh well, hope this clarification helps. I'm sure as time passes more carriers will get on board with Google Wallet - once Google starts pushing that aspect hard, other companies aren't going to have much choice but fall in line and provide support.
It's Google we're talking about here...
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No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
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If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
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Ahh I found it now. Mine says 'unverified' since I haven't given Wallet my address and such. There are 0 vendors where I live that use NFC readers so I haven't been able to even use Wallet, I just installed it in case I get to go back to the states for a visit.
Glad to see you got it resolved though!
Howdy,
I am looking for some very specific help here on my device and so will try to provide as much information as I can with regards to it.
The basic issue is that I cannot, for any adequate length of time (more than a few minutes or hours), access the Google Play store on my Kindle Fire 5th Gen after it's initial installation. This is on Fire OS 5.3.2.1.
Where I started:
I have followed the instructions on how to install Google Play on the Kindle Fire without requiring root, which is basically the installation of the four required APKs. I used the script posted here on the forums and it worked well enough, but I've also copied the APKs locally to the device and installed them from there using the Local Storage tab in the Docs app.
The issue:
Within a few minutes or hours of having the Google Play store working, I am, for a second time, prompted to accept the Google Play terms and conditions when I load the store app. Once I accept (which I have no real choice otherwise, it just exits the app if I click Decline), I am now faced with an empty store screen and the message saying that there are no apps I can install as my Administrator has not made any available to me.
As I am my own Administrator, I know this is utter nonsense. This is also only the case on my account, as a dummy account that is not part of my G-Suite account does not have this issue, but alas, also does not have my purchases associated with it so this is not a good permanent choice.
My troubleshooting:
This issue seems to be entirely due to some issue with the fact that I am using a G-Suite account (the previously named Google Apps for Work) and not just your average Google account. The "apparent" issue is that the Google Play Store app seems to think I am using an Advanced management device (more info here, support.google.com/a/answer/6328699).
I have spent a few hours on the phone with G-Suite support on this. There was a point I mistakenly had the Advanced management settings on (EMM is the main culprit setting, the ability for the Administrator to control which apps their users can install, users being myself, my wife, and our son), but I have since, and for over a week now, had it off. They say toggling that takes about 24 hours to propagate, so that should be plenty of time. All I really wanted anyway was the Basic management anyway, i.e., being able to remotely locate, wipe, remove account, etc., on my various devices should they be lost or stolen, but I turned on some settings that weren't worded well enough for me to understand, apparently, and so Advanced it was.
Even with the EMM off, I still receive this error. At this point, I have many times over removed both the device from my G-Suite account as well as turned off mobile management entirely (it currently sits off and has since last week) which should have made it about as equivalent to a standard Google account as you can get, and yet still, the second prompting of the terms and service and the subsequent inability to browse the store after more than a short while after it just worked a bit ago.
Workarounds:
I can uninstall all four Google services apps, re-install them, add a dummy account, and get any free apps I want installed on my Kindle added, then uninstall again, re-install again, and add my account back, and then launch the apps and have them work. But again, this doesn't give me access to my purchased apps or add-ins so is not the best choice of action, nor is having to do this whole process again and try to get the Google Play store to work for those precious few minutes before it conks out. Sometimes it's not even a few minutes, but usually it is, but nevertheless, not the best all-around choice.
My hopeful resolution?:
Since neither I nor G-Suite Support seems to know of a setting that is currently preventing this from working, I am wanting to try some other methods that seem logical to me.
1) Putting the Google Play Store on my wife's profile on my Kindle and have it install any apps for all users and not just her profile. That "all users" part is what I am missing how to do. I know the script mentioned above that installs Google Play does install to all users so I know it's possible. Naturally, I would prefer this done through the store and not through manual APKs but beggars can't be choosers. I just want my auto-updates!
2) Allowing the adding and management of multiple Google accounts under my single profile. Currently, only one Google account can be added using the method of installing the Google Play store above, and if I could add mine and a dummy one, it should also work, in theory, by just swapping back and forth on the Play store. Still limited by purchases that are tied to my account (I believe), but not add-ins. I'd have to see how much trouble that is worth, but it could be better than nothing.
3) Anything else someone here on the forums can think of.
I'm open to questions, suggestions, or whatever at this point. I've now spent two weeks on this and yet still no resolution.
Thanks!
Tough issue, but not entirely unexpected behavior given the interdependencies of Google Play services components and undocumented assumptions of how play services/store will be installed on unrooted systems. Layer on G-suite and you have a snakes pit. My guess is one of more of the installed components is self-updating while the others are not. Probably not going to be able to control that behavior on an unrooted device.
May be less involved (and more successful) grabbing a refurb from Amazon Warehouse which typically arrive with older/rootable firmware.
Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
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Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
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No, I never got a fix for this, and unfortunately I have been relegated to just uninstalling all apps that came direct from APKs or just not from the Amazon Appstore. It sucks and makes my Fire not very worth it, despite the nice price tag.
The new Fortnite Game for Android detects system modifications like having root or an unlocked bootloader, in addition to that it makes a SafetyNet check, which means no Fortnite for root users....
I know, it's just a game but I thought you should know, I found out about it today after indtalling it.
I can't even install it. The installer keeps crashing on me!
He "block" user having Root/Not Safety Pass, don't "Ban", not the same thing
If you unroot, clean install your device stock, you can play isn't it?
Wouldn't install it anyway tbh, purely for them circumventing the Play Store, that's highly dangerous, there'll be all sorts of malicious packages out there pretending to be legit copies. Plus PUBG4LYFE!
Like Snapchat, Netflix, Pokemon Go etc... Its not the first time but we live in the age of Magisk
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He "block" user having Root/Not Safety Pass, don't "Ban", not the same thing
If you unroot, clean install your device stock, you can play isn't it?
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I got the following message "after too many attempts your account might get banned"
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I got the following message "after too many attempts your account might get banned"
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Yes you are banned BECAUSE you have try to connect to the Fornite server so many times, not because you have try once time to connect with a device rooted
And i think it's a temporary ban (some minutes/hours)
i have tried this and it's working for rooted users
https://highonandroid.com/android-howtos/how-to-run-fortnite-on-any-rooted-android/
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Wouldn't install it anyway tbh, purely for them circumventing the Play Store, that's highly dangerous, there'll be all sorts of malicious packages out there pretending to be legit copies. Plus PUBG4LYFE!
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I mean, losing 30% of potentially ~100 millions $/mo from mobile just to stay on Google Play is a stupid business decision. It's simple enough: you want the game, you go on Epic's website. If people get caught downloading another version of the APK that contains a virus, they're dumb (in the end, it's their problem).
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Native Solutions (with push notifications, location services, google login):
None so far.
Virtual Machine environments:
Lighthouse (Only working for C636 region, not C432 euro-edition)
OurPlay (Chinese-only interface, but uses system languge for installed apps)
DualSpace (loses ability to install apps/updates after a day)
VMOS (old android v7, with virtual root and Xposed)
VPhoneGaGa (old Android v7, with virtual root)
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for the international version, so we can test properly. Because Google apps are what many of our coworkers, colleagues, and friends use we unfortunately can't just abandon them. Therefore, only solutions that work with login to Google services (not just GMS but actual Google authentication, like for Gmail, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Chat, Maps, Calendar, Photos, etc.) will be accepted.
Apparently MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's…
Contact app developers about publishing to the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
See how we can help figure out solutions
Share alternatives we are using to the Google(-dependent) services we have been locked in to (I will add best to this list)
Google Alternatives
Meet/Duo:
https://meet.jit.si/
Google Chat:
https://element.io/ (like Slack, MS Teams, Discord)
https://signal.org/ (like FB Messenger, WhatsApp)
Google Maps:
https://osmand.net/
Authenticator:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.shadowice.flocke.andotp/
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
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I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
Do you have guidance on the last version of Maps ??
I have it just on 10.49.3 version ...
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
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I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
chortya said:
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
Medium – Where good ideas find you.
Medium is an open platform where readers find dynamic thinking, and where expert and undiscovered voices can share their writing on any topic.
medium.com
@topjohnwu/huaweis-undocumented-apis-a-backdoor-to-reinstall-google-services-c3a5dd71a7cd
I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
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Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
That is a good statement. But the situation is as it is and simple peasant users like we are will not be able to change it
Any updates on this?
torickray said:
Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
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Still waiting.
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
daxter125 said:
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
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yes same feeling
Waiting game
banmao said:
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
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Same here
kxra said:
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for international users who need to login to Google services (not just GMS but actual google authentication, like for Play Store, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Maps, Calendar, etc.) so we can test properly.
MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login apparently, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's:
Contact app develpoers about supporting the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
Share alternatives we are using to the Googele(-dependent) services we have been locked in to
See how we can help figure out solutions
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keep this up!
I've purchased Huawei Mate 40 Pro on yesterday, but seems like everyone is facing the same issue when installing GMS using Googlefier that lzplay show message in Chinese that it didn't support for this device. Maybe there's alternative way to reinstall the app again?
latif99 said:
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
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but I never see solution that people downgrade (Mate 40 Pro) and install GMS
All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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It stil works on the Chinese version Mate40 Pro
I read in a video posted on youtube that a chinese app ourplay its like a chinese version of playstore installs gms for emui 11.
Tried installing the app the only problem is it you can only use the app with a china IP address so i couldnt fully verify if it works or not.
Anybody wanna try for mate 40 international phones?
Installer can be downloaded on their site ourplay.net