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[Q] Pocket Android Non-phone devices ??

Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !

ADude said:
Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !
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Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.

yep get used droid, you can use its camera, gps, download textfree/pinger and get text messaging
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Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.
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ADude said:
Is there such a thing as a pocket size Android device that is not a phone - but has all the other features of a smartphone ?
In other words, a wifi-only Droid/Evo/Thunder/HD2 ?
I was struck by what someone said about the Nook Color, that they did not need the camera or the microphone, because their pocket phone has those things. I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
But I could use something that could scan UPC codes (or QR codes), take quick photos, and could do voice activated tasks that do not need the nice large screen of the Nook.
Thanks !
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If you want something radical try, www alwaysinnovating.com/products/minibook.htm
There is also the samsung galaxy pmps, www linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-Galaxy-Player-4-and-5/
Also look at Archos, but their smaller units tend to be resistive touch screens so check the descriptions well.
And finally a google search for 'android pmp camera' should turn up a couple hits.
-Zhin

Check out the archos 43 here
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ADude said:
I do not have a smartphone, because I do not want a big monthly data bill.
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This is my thinking on the matter, too and is the reason why I still use a cheap Chinese Windows Mobile 2G clone phone through T-mobile. However, I've noticed that Phone companies are starting to roll out small data plans for about $10.00 a month. That might be enough to get me to finally buy a smart phone, given that I'd mostly use WiFi for data.
Once tethering plans become affordable I'll probably go with that, but I'm talking $15.00 a month on top for data & tethering, and who knows when (or if) prices will ever reach that level (especially with AT&T swallowing up T-Mobile... yaaay, go duopoly!)

Samsung is making one galaxy player I think its going to be called
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Too bad reviews say it is terrible
I would say simply wait for the Samsung Galaxy Player to actually be released, hopefully this spring.

JLCollier2005 said:
Maybe someone else can back me (or correct me) up on this as I'm just taking an educated guess here, but any deactivated phone would do this. If you're only looking for a wifi version, that is. You might wanna look into it more, but picking up an old Droid (probably pretty cheap) would work. You would have access to the market via wifi and all that.
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I am now looking into this, there are lots of Droids on ebay.
I assume that "BAD ESN" only matters if you are going to use it as a cell phone, and for Wifi use, it would not matter ?
Also, I noticed in the completed listings that some with cracked screens sold for just as much as ones without flaws. Why is this ? Is there some easy way to get the screen fixed ? (Just curious on this one.)

Gear..gear 2..android wear

Hi all...I'm looking to get a smart watch. I have been reading up a lot but still have more to go. This is the way I see it so far.
Original gear...can root and run a custom ROM.
Gear 2/neo. Can root but not much else at moment. I do like this one and the original. I like the fact you can reply to text and answer calls. Not sure how much support this will get.
Android wear. Seems to me to take full advantage you need to use Google now and I don't. I find it really drains my battery.
I'm still reading up on android vs tizen.
Am I looking at these the correct way? So far I prefer gear/gear 2 over android wear. Anyone have any input or correct anything I may have said that is wrong?
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My thoughts are. You can buy a gear for $99 which i did it has a camera and i can answer phone calls with it.. what do i use it for? Well firstly as a watch second to see my calendar, step counter, i use as a phone dialer for me its quicker to find a contract and dial then pickup the phone rather than pickup phone unlock dial etc. I can't see myself talking into my watch just seems odd. As for Google wear more apps / better apps but twice the cost and not sure i can read exchange email on it.
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I tend to agree with phil999, I have owned the original Gear since it rolled out. Answering calls on my watch has come in handy on a weekly basis. I don't usually initiate calls, but I am constantly grabbing a call when my phone is stuck in my pocket or sitting on my desk in another room. I use voice activation to both initiate and reply to text. Full exchange email viewing is great at work. For $99 you can not go wrong.
I was excited by the Android Wear watches as they were announce and info started leaking. Now that they are out and have initial reviews I am holding off on picking one up. I like the always on (this is a must in my opinion for a smart watch and sorely missing from the Gear), plus the way it integrates with Google Now. I myself don't use Google Now anymore as I did not get much value out of it, I know others do. There will certainly be a lot of Apps that start becoming AW capable, so I think in the next several months the list of apps will quickly outpace the relative meager list of apps we have for the Gear.
I dont know why Samsung did not just take the Gear 2 or Neo and turn it into the Live. I think the hardware (Camera/IR/Speaker) would have been a big hit for the AW platform. The way Sammy is pumping out smart watches it may be advisable to wait for the Live 2 as it will address feedback they receive on the Live 1.
So my advice is get something. $99 for a Gear 1 is a great way to experience your first smart watch. If you use and like Google Now, then grab a Gear Live. It does that slickly on your wrist and there is surely a ton of apps that will soon be compatible with it.

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I tend to agree with phil999, I have owned the original Gear since it rolled out. Answering calls on my watch has come in handy on a weekly basis. I don't usually initiate calls, but I am constantly grabbing a call when my phone is stuck in my pocket or sitting on my desk in another room. I use voice activation to both initiate and reply to text. Full exchange email viewing is great at work. For $99 you can not go wrong.
I was excited by the Android Wear watches as they were announce and info started leaking. Now that they are out and have initial reviews I am holding off on picking one up. I like the always on (this is a must in my opinion for a smart watch and sorely missing from the Gear), plus the way it integrates with Google Now. I myself don't use Google Now anymore as I did not get much value out of it, I know others do. There will certainly be a lot of Apps that start becoming AW capable, so I think in the next several months the list of apps will quickly outpace the relative meager list of apps we have for the Gear.
I dont know why Samsung did not just take the Gear 2 or Neo and turn it into the Live. I think the hardware (Camera/IR/Speaker) would have been a big hit for the AW platform. The way Sammy is pumping out smart watches it may be advisable to wait for the Live 2 as it will address feedback they receive on the Live 1.
So my advice is get something. $99 for a Gear 1 is a great way to experience your first smart watch. If you use and like Google Now, then grab a Gear Live. It does that slickly on your wrist and there is surely a ton of apps that will soon be compatible with it.
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This is exactly what I did. I got a Gear 1 on SlickDeals (Refurb) for $99 and it just arrived yesterday. I will be honest though, it was HELL trying to get Tizen to connect to my Note 2 running Nebula but I finally got it running today. I really like Tizen even though it has less apps than Android. But be honest with yourself, how many apps are you going to use on a 2 inch screen? With Tizen you can check ALL your notifications as well as answer calls...plus take a quick picture...I can't tell you how many times something was happening & I wanted a pic of it but by the time I got my phone out it was too late.
I think $300 is too much for a smartwatch. I know some drop more than that on a regular watch, but considering you can get a high end phone on contract for less than that (or a Google phone for just over that) I think they are over priced.
First, decide what you plan on using the watch for. I bought mine on a whim when I saw the deal on SlickDeals. But I can see where it will come in handy now that I have it.

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My thoughts are. You can buy a gear for $99 which i did it has a camera and i can answer phone calls with it.. what do i use it for? Well firstly as a watch second to see my calendar, step counter, i use as a phone dialer for me its quicker to find a contract and dial then pickup the phone rather than pickup phone unlock dial etc. I can't see myself talking into my watch just seems odd. As for Google wear more apps / better apps but twice the cost and not sure i can read exchange email on it.
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Bladder61 said:
I tend to agree with phil999, I have owned the original Gear since it rolled out. Answering calls on my watch has come in handy on a weekly basis. I don't usually initiate calls, but I am constantly grabbing a call when my phone is stuck in my pocket or sitting on my desk in another room. I use voice activation to both initiate and reply to text. Full exchange email viewing is great at work. For $99 you can not go wrong.
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This is exactly what I did. I got a Gear 1 on SlickDeals (Refurb) for $99 and it just arrived yesterday. I will be honest though,
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I want to thank all of you for taking the time to answer and give me your opinions. I greatly appreciate it. After reading I think your all right. I'm gonna look into the gear. I don't really use Google now at all. Tried for a few days. Didn't care for it and drained my battery. The main things i would like to do is receive notifications, reply to text, i guess with svoice, and i think answering calls would come in handy. I see the gear can also be rooted if I wanted to which I guess is a plus. I'm assuming most are running with stock TW? That will be the toughest thing..running TW. Been running custom ROMs forever. But sounds like it will be worth it.
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jasvncnt1 said:
I want to thank all of you for taking the time to answer and give me your opinions. I greatly appreciate it. After reading I think your all right. I'm gonna look into the gear. I don't really use Google now at all. Tried for a few days. Didn't care for it and drained my battery. The main things i would like to do is receive notifications, reply to text, i guess with svoice, and i think answering calls would come in handy. I see the gear can also be rooted if I wanted to which I guess is a plus. I'm assuming most are running with stock TW? That will be the toughest thing..running TW. Been running custom ROMs forever. But sounds like it will be worth it.
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If you want notifications you're going to have to update to Tizen. Stock, the Gear only let's you read notifications from the stock Samsung apps. So if you use Gmail or Handsent it will only let you know you have a message but you can't read it on the Gear. Tizen lets you choose what apps will notify you & you can read the notification on the watch...

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If you want notifications you're going to have to update to Tizen. Stock, the Gear only let's you read notifications from the stock Samsung apps. So if you use Gmail or Handsent it will only let you know you have a message but you can't read it on the Gear. Tizen lets you choose what apps will notify you & you can read the notification on the watch...
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Thanks. I did not realize that. I've been reading here that many people are happy with tizen.
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jasvncnt1 said:
Thanks. I did not realize that. I've been reading here that many people are happy with tizen.
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I ran the Null Roms for a long time. Still miss the ability to run any launcher and customize everything, but I gave Tizen a shot about a month ago. I am happy with Tizen, functional, smooth, longer battery life, and it does what I need. With Null I could use the watch as a small full android device. I have come to realize that I want my watch to be an extension of android for notifications and convenience.
To be honest I have been wearing a Qualcomm Toq, I picked up on ebay for $100 for the past 3 weeks. I can voice respond to text, but with no speaker I cant answer calls on the watch. I can select answer call, but it answers on the phone (this does give me time to stand up and dig it out of my pocket). The always on and 4-5 day battery life plus wireless charging help to offset the one missing feature.
When one of the manufacturers puts a low power color display (Mirasol) on a Gear 1 / Gear 2 type hardware platform it will be the type of smart watch I am looking for.

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I ran the Null Roms for a long time. Still miss the ability to run any launcher and customize everything, but I gave Tizen a shot about a month ago. I am happy with Tizen, functional, smooth, longer battery life, and it does what I need. With Null I could use the watch as a small full android device. I have come to realize that I want my watch to be an extension of android for notifications and convenience.
To be honest I have been wearing a Qualcomm Toq, I picked up on ebay for $100 for the past 3 weeks. I can voice respond to text, but with no speaker I cant answer calls on the watch. I can select answer call, but it answers on the phone (this does give me time to stand up and dig it out of my pocket). The always on and 4-5 day battery life plus wireless charging help to offset the one missing feature.
When one of the manufacturers puts a low power color display (Mirasol) on a Gear 1 / Gear 2 type hardware platform it will be the type of smart watch I am looking for.
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I have been reading about Null and it does sound very cool. But after reading your response I think your right. I just want the watch the be an extension. The only draw back i guess is your kind of stuck with certain Samsung phones. I was reading a thread about getting it to work with other devices but seemed to be hit and miss. Im gonna go check out the watches again. If I was able to get the watch to work with a custom ROM and still have the features I need it would be a huge plus. Maybe I'll grab one and try it out.
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Tempted to buy but not convinced enough yet

Ok I like techy stuff have been into computers for over 30 years and really like the look of the LG G watch R.
The other half was going to buy me a smart watch for crimbo, but i told her not to as I am not convinced it would not be just a gimmick and I would not use it after a few weeks ....
So I need a little bit of convincing, presently in the UK I can get this watch for about £200, if it was about £170 I would buy it now. (any deals I haven't found yet about?)
One problem is I haven't been able to see one in the flesh as only available online and one issue would be the size on my wrist.
Is there a user manual I can download? - I cant seem to find one ......
I understand the main function of any smart watch is for notifications without removing your phone from your pocket, but can you hold a telephone conversation just using your watch? also is it easy to reply to emails / text using just the watch with a keyboard or would it be mainly using voice to text?
Any help / advice from those of you who have used this watch for some time would be very much appreciated :good:
thanks in advance

you could try Amazon France (amazon.fr)
With shipping to the UK it works out at £178. I ordered mine at the weekend, due for delivery tomorrow.

neils31 said:
Ok I like techy stuff have been into computers for over 30 years and really like the look of the LG G watch R.
The other half was going to buy me a smart watch for crimbo, but i told her not to as I am not convinced it would not be just a gimmick and I would not use it after a few weeks ....
So I need a little bit of convincing, presently in the UK I can get this watch for about £200, if it was about £170 I would buy it now. (any deals I haven't found yet about?)
One problem is I haven't been able to see one in the flesh as only available online and one issue would be the size on my wrist.
Is there a user manual I can download? - I cant seem to find one ......
I understand the main function of any smart watch is for notifications without removing your phone from your pocket, but can you hold a telephone conversation just using your watch? also is it easy to reply to emails / text using just the watch with a keyboard or would it be mainly using voice to text?
Any help / advice from those of you who have used this watch for some time would be very much appreciated :good:
thanks in advance
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No you cant hold a conversation with your watch..
To be honest, if your not convinced then its probably not for you

Your right, ordered for next day delivery
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No you cant hold a conversation with your watch..
To be honest, if your not convinced then its probably not for you
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neils31 said:
Your right, ordered for next day delivery
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Lol enjoy it mate

I've had my watch now for several weeks and although I certainly don't speak for all uses, I can tell you what I find useful about this watch. First I really enjoy the fact that I can change the watch face to suit the occasion although to be honest lately I've been sticking with the same face.
I also find the notifications very useful as it lets me triage them which keeps my phone in my pocket more often that not. I find myself pulling out my phone for e-mails, but voice works fine for short texts and is very convenient.
It also works very well as a step counter especially on occasions I've forgotten my phone at a different location. When I retun to my phone the watch will update the step count in Google Fit completely automatically.
This watch is not for everyone and if you have your doubts then by all means don't get it.
Cheers.

well if anyone s after one in the UK, for today only its going for £179.99 @ expansys, I bought mine for £200 on Thursday .....
Lg G Watch R

Screen tearing issue inevitable?

I am currently wearing my 4th OG Pebble.
4th.
I have had the screen tearing issue come up on every one, and every one was faithfully replaced by Pebble, which is nice. My first three I wore in the shower and in the pool, per the various ads I saw where people showered and swam with it, and my wife was like dude, quit wearing it in the water. So my latest warranty replacement has never been wet. The last two days, I've had the screen thing again.
Again.
I can't afford a Pebble Time at the moment, or I would go that direction in the hopes that they figured it out.
I know that there is a solution involving taking the watch apart and placing a small plastic shim inside; has anyone done this successfully, did it work, how difficult is it REALLY, and what kind/size shim did you use?
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OMG! I hate this problem. Happens on mine all the time. I had a friend tell me it doesn't happen if you use the stock watchfaces. I've notice it actually does happen more on certain watchfaces for some reason. I've never tried the repair trick. Switching watchfaces HAS helped a bit though. Which makes me think, is it really a software issue?

I don't know about inevitable, but given that the reason is a hardware connector, that's probably likely. Water has nothing to do with it at all. All four of the Pebbles we own with the old style connector have been wet numerous times with no harm.
I can't speak for everyone's use but my wife and I have 1 OG Pebble and 3 Pebble Steels between us.
I only use the OG Pebble for working out and I turn it off between workouts. It has never had a screen tearing issue. It's the screwback later model of the OG.
My wife's Brushed Silver Pebble Steel, which was pre-ordered on announcement day, has never had a screen tearing issue.
My original Matte Black Pebble Steel, ordered on announcement day as well, did have the screen tearing issue and Pebble quickly RMA'd it and told me to keep it as well as the new one. The warranty replacement (I was actually a couple of months out of warranty) has never had the screen tearing issue.
Since it was already broken/spare I did attempt the business card shim fix on my original Matte Black and it has worked beautifully. Since my brother wanted to see if he would use a smartwatch, I lent the repaired one to him to wear during his paramedic clinicals and he hasn't seen any screen tearing at all while exposing it to God knows what. It was an extremely easy fix. I followed this youtube tutorial https://youtu.be/c-3pfh-bx_w and it was spot on.
If you have the screwback version of the OG Pebble then the fix is pretty straightforward. If you have the glued together version then you're probably better off buying another one if you want to keep using Pebble.
If any of our other three watches did start having screen tearing I feel 100% confident the shim fix would correct the issue entirely.

Worked like a charm! Thanks,
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Glad that worked for you. Pebble has always been great at RMAing my messed up Pebbles. I too had the 4th one start to go so I emailed them. They said they'd replace it but I inquired about testing a beta with new hardware or seeing if there was something else they could do. I also asked for a phone number to speak to someone about it. They replied that they do not have a phone system and there are no betas of the OG Pebble but did offer me a Pebble Time. I took their offer even though I liked the OG Pebble firmware. Its worth a try if you are still having troubles down the road. Good luck.

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Glad that worked for you. Pebble has always been great at RMAing my messed up Pebbles. I too had the 4th one start to go so I emailed them. They said they'd replace it but I inquired about testing a beta with new hardware or seeing if there was something else they could do. I also asked for a phone number to speak to someone about it. They replied that they do not have a phone system and there are no betas of the OG Pebble but did offer me a Pebble Time. I took their offer even though I liked the OG Pebble firmware. Its worth a try if you are still having troubles down the road. Good luck.
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Thanks. Unfortunately, my Pebble (which is my third) was rejected by them recently as being out of warranty.
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I'll just re-iterate that they took back my used Pebble Steel (RMA) and sent me brand new one and it hasn't torn yet. So, great support and us early folk have that tearing a possibility at any time
Side note-I can't get it to pair with my vs985 any more (kinda makes it useless). It's likely something with the new CM13-based ROM AND my phone (same Rom - OctM pairs fine with my Nexus 7). I'm now seeing the LE radio and the standard from the Pebble and CM13 doesn't like to pair with the regular. I'm going to do some searching today to see if there's a fix.

Pebbles!
FWIW, my Kickstarter Edition Pebble is still holding up just fine after daily use for close to two years now (I got it used). That said, a Pebble Steel I was recently working on from 2015 did have the issue. Seems like they got it right at first and then forgot how.
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I'll just re-iterate that they took back my used Pebble Steel (RMA) and sent me brand new one and it hasn't torn yet. So, great support and us early folk have that tearing a possibility at any time
Side note-I can't get it to pair with my vs985 any more (kinda makes it useless). It's likely something with the new CM13-based ROM AND my phone (same Rom - OctM pairs fine with my Nexus 7). I'm now seeing the LE radio and the standard from the Pebble and CM13 doesn't like to pair with the regular. I'm going to do some searching today to see if there's a fix.
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Cyanogenmod Roms used to have issues with being finicky when it comes to Bluetooth, so that kind of behavior wouldn't necessarily surprise me.

I didn't think it was the Pebble. Thanks for noting it for others!
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My OG Pebble Steel has been running fine for about nearly a year now, screen tearing started showing up but been super minimal....

Should I return my Pebble Time Steel?

It arrived yesterday from Amazon and I really like it but as i guess you all know today came an E-mail discontinuing support and Warranty. I have already started a return request but as the day goes on and the watch presents it's uses I am increasingly annoye at what has happened. Why? Because this was the Smart Watch I wanted. Long battery life, easy use and just works. I am concerned , however should the watch go wrong or will I see these watches going for far less in a week or two as the news sinks in. What do people think, should I return it. Looking around the Sony 3 looks the closest but nowhere near on Battery life. Any other options?

Same question ...
I'm in the same boat with Pebble 2 HR ... I really like it so far ... bought it yesterday from Best Buy have one month to return it ... don't know what to do. Will it WORK a year from now, don't care to much about warranty but will it actually have the app available !?
So my answer "I don't know!" I think I'll wait until Jan. and see if anything changes, maybe some more info, let the water clear a little.
I will never buy a FitBit that is 100% .
Other option:
Vector Watch Luna - arriving for me on Monday wife agreed to let me buy it ...

No reason the app would go away or stop working. I guess if Android "O" comes out or the new iOS and is somehow incompatible with the existing app it would break, but other than that... I still love my Pebble Rond and can't find anything out there that comes close to it as far as aesthetics and functionality.

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No reason the app would go away or stop working. I guess if Android "O" comes out or the new iOS and is somehow incompatible with the existing app it would break, but other than that... I still love my Pebble Rond and can't find anything out there that comes close to it as far as aesthetics and functionality.
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Server switch off will quite easily cause a large amount of features to "stop working" so yes return it and get your money back while you can.

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Server switch off will quite easily cause a large amount of features to "stop working" so yes return it and get your money back while you can.
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Aside from downloading new watchfaces, I couldn't name a single feature of the Pebble that would require a centralized server.

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Aside from downloading new watchfaces, I couldn't name a single feature of the Pebble that would require a centralized server.
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^^^^^ Yes. Unlike the Apple watch, the Pebble watch is self-contained. Most apps are local, while many make use of already established APIs (weather, PayPal, etc) that are not controlled by OEM servers.

I'm in the same shoes. I bought my time steel on cyber Monday last week. It works fine since but what if it breaks? I purchased it from amazon so I have a time window to return it but after that I will be alone. I own a pebble classic as well which broke after about 10 months of use and had a warranty replacement. The new one I had is actually working better then the old one which broke. I can easily get 7 days of battery life out of my pebble classic. My only issue is what if my new time steal breaks after 10 months? Or they just shut the servers as other people suggested. The problem is I do love my pebbles but as the future is uncertain maybe time to change to a more reliable future proof brand.
I tried to find a good alternative like Garmin Forerunner 230 which has similar features but more expensive.
I still haven't decided whether I should send it back or not. I probably get a garmin as well and will compare them.

Timeline, weather and voice recognition are but a few which will die after server switch off was confirmed on pocket now podcast

...Continuing on the other option, Vector Luna arrived on Friday and I'm ditching Pebble.
Although my Pebble 2/HR has a better screen it's way smaller, looks more geeky (for me a plus) it has a HR sensor (was accurate enough despite some bad reviews) and the best of all it has voice reply ( probably defunct soon enough) - on Vector no HR and MIC not as refined apps as Pebble but it has the potential to be the best replacement out there for battery life and functionality. I really hate to charge anything, even my phone , every day ... If FitBit kept Pebble alive I've kept the Pebble over Vector, but given the circumstances I'll return it today. Just my 2 cents based on my experience with both.

got my pts on saturday. I love it! before this I've had 2 microsoft bands and a garmin fenix hr.
I've found the pebble more informative and easier to wear to the extent it's far better as a daily driver... sports functions remain better served by a sports band and I'll put that on when I put my sports gear on.
wife has 2 pebbles and a moto 36- 2nd gen and is very attached to the pebbles too.
wish I'd tried one earlier tbh.

Lan3y said:
Timeline, weather and voice recognition are but a few which will die after server switch off was confirmed on pocket now podcast
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Link? None of that makes sense, I think yo'ure confusing things. Weather uses a different server, and timeline doesn't use a server at all.

thebobmannh said:
Link? None of that makes sense, I think yo'ure confusing things. Weather uses a different server, and timeline doesn't use a server at all.
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https://forums.pebble.com/t/what-functions-are-server-dependant/26703

Lan3y said:
https://forums.pebble.com/t/what-functions-are-server-dependant/26703
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Hmph. That's disappointing.
Timeline will continue to work for calendar reminders as those are pulled from your phone and those events are not stored on Pebble's servers. However the weather/sunrise pins will probably stop working. Any other app that Pebble created that might push pins to your timeline will probably also stop working.
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I got a Luna as well as a replacement of the time steel but it does not vibrate with notifications only with incoming calls. All the notifications enabled and the vibration is on. Anyone who went for the luna route have this issue?

I recently replaced my Pebble classic, and at the same time bought my wife one for Christmas. I then Found the news that pebble had sold out to fitsh*t and all warranty and support would cease. Immediately I returned the two new pebbles and bought two different devices. I got the Alcatel GoWatch (actually surprisingly VERY good) and I bought the Mrs a Sony SW3.
I'm gonna miss Pebble, but screw them - they used to be all about their Customers and it seems to me they should up up the creek without a paddle. My advice to everyone is FIND ANOTHER SMART WATCH! There's a lot out there that will beat Pebble hands down, just the battery life that is a pain on other devices.

Fitbit is unbelievable, they just bought Vector too. I just managed to buy a Vector luna over the xmas season from John Lewis for a £100 cheaper and now they been bought by fitbit as well as pebble. At least they don't stop the warranty and support immediately. I cannot believe how unlucky I am.

Server switch off, or just its removal of user-base results in not being able to 'reboot' your pebble. Your to be downloaded apps, watchfaces etc are neuther on watch itself, your ios phone... only on server, ubder you user account

May be hope...
Ok, Pebble-eers...I being a Pebble fanboy, started snooping around, the day I got the message that Pebble died. If your interested, look up Rebble, sorry, new guy...cant post links yet , its worth a look, the Pebble community is very much alive and well...or, another alternative is Gadgetbridge, although there are some drawbacks.

Wow!

I'm loving my PTS since the first day my kickstarter package arrived and before my Pebble classic was the best gadget I ever had. I'm still lucky with my PTS right now and wearing it every day along with gadgetbridge :good:
It was quite fun to write Watchfaces for Pebble since it's some of Code you've trust everyday