My OP5 has replaced my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge which unfortunately was dropped and shattered the front glass. It's expensive/difficult to replace the glass on these so I treated myself to a new phone. So this is what I Love and Hate about my new OnePlus 5!
Love
The Snapdraggon 835 -The phone is Fast and bang up to date in connectivity support.
Fast storage and lots of memory- More Speed
No bloatware and streamlined Android -Contributes to the speed and simplicity.
The silent/DnD slider button -No more taking my phone out and turning the display on to switch it to silent! Fantastic.
Fast responsive finger print unlocking.
Solid Home button -Sooner or later the push down home buttons on galaxies start to wear causing rocking, noises/rattles, missed clicks etc because of their frequent use. Hopefully nothing to wear out here.
The deep blacks and saturation from the AMOLED panel
3.5mm jack -Can still use my headphones without an adapter.
Battery -Amazing battery life and the DASH charge is great too.
USB C -So easy to plug in the charger in the dark now.
Gorilla Glass 5 -better drop resistance, the gorilla glass 4 on my Galaxy S7 drop failed
Glass on one side. Feels less premium in a way, but reduces the weight of the phone. This means less force when it falls and less chance of shattering the screen. However metal dents and scratches easily.
Hate
The Camera. So much hype and so much disappointment. Good on paper and for taking 'benchmark' photos. But very poor in real world phone usage. The S7 camera is WAY better. I'm so disappointed I gave it it's own thread.
Only 1080P screen. Also if the brightness is turned up I can see 'noise' on the display. Also get some weird distortions when scrolling. Viewing angle is good, but not excellent. Automatic brightness control is also hit and miss. The S7 was much better. A big downgrade on the S7 display in all areas.
Design is good. But it doesn't look as nice as say a galaxy S8
Having DRM issues, such as reduced quality Netlix streaming. I hope this gets sorted soon.
Sound is loud, but quality is average.
Not waterproof
No SD Card support. Who really wants two sim card holders? Make the other slot for an sdcard like Samsung.
Price. £450 is not a value bargain like the old versions. You can buy a Samsung S8 on Amazon for £550 now.
In a nutshell. It's a mid range phone in regards to features and design, but with high end performance. I don't think it's a bargain. I think the price is about right for what you get.
Sometimes I ask myself why do people actually upgrade from S7 or equal??
The S7/S7 edge is only one year old. I think it's also nonsense to upgrade from S7 to S8 for example.
What do people expect to get? A whole new smartphone experience? Ppl knew the specs right from the start, before they bought it. Of course a 1080p screen will be worse than a QHD.
It's not waterproof, you knew that. It has no SD-Slot, you knew that as well.
For the smoothness and the speed to exist, as well as the great batterylife, there need to be some things that can't be amazing as well for this price. And it's not even bad on this phone.
I understand disappointment, but it's mostly because people expect too much from a phone that is only 1 year younger than the one they own.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and I'm totally happy with the OP5. My gf has a S7 edge. They are both good phones. The Samsung might have a better camera, but the Android experience and smoothness is GALAXIES better with the OP5.
Sometimes ist also about people's priotities.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you'll enjoy your new device
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I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.
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I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.
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If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.
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If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.
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Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.
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Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.
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It is possible that he thought he could look past it, but ended up failing at it. idk. All I can say is that it has happened to me. Mostly with iPhone, but that is a whole other beast.
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Hi,
I'm looking for a new device, as my Note 1 looks like it's about to join the big charger in the sky.
I know the basics - large screen, good battery & processor, meh resolution etc. Judging form the specs and reviews I've read, it looks like a good fit for me.
What I'd like to know is if you'd recommend buying it for long term use (I'm not one to change phones every year), and if there are issues with the phone you think I should know about.
It's a great phablet. Fast, comfortable and bug free. Battery seems to last forerver. Feels solid yet slippery in the hand, and close to impossible to use one handed. You won't feel the difference made by the 720p resolution after a few hours. Color reproduction is great and the screen is sharp and bright.
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
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It's a great phablet. Fast, comfortable and bug free. Battery seems to last forerver. Feels solid yet slippery in the hand, and close to impossible to use one handed. You won't feel the difference made by the 720p resolution after a few hours. Color reproduction is great and the screen is sharp and bright.
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
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There are a lot of cases and screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...ds="lg+g+flex"+-2+case&ie=UTF8&qid=1426858854
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...:2335752011,k:"lg+g+flex"+-2+screen+protector
grayson73 said:
There are a lot of cases and screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...ds="lg+g+flex"+-2+case&ie=UTF8&qid=1426858854
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...:2335752011,k:"lg+g+flex"+-2+screen+protector
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Do you have a glass protector? (made of glass)
rotem07773 said:
Do you have a glass protector? (made of glass)
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I don't want one, but this one looks pretty good:
http://www.amazon.com/BodyGuardz-Pure-Glass-Screen-Protection/dp/B00IZL5S2G/
This one sold 1204 units:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-Rea...-Screen-Protector-for-LG-G-FLEX-/301293819206
This one sold 89 units:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-HD-...-Screen-Protector-for-LG-G-FLEX-/131417940013
rotem07773 said:
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
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Thanks!
I don't really care about the camera. The lack of development is a bummer. Might have been a deal breaker for me if it wasn't for Xposed.
Oh, one more thing - some users had an issue with ghosting or after images on the screen. Anyone had this problem? How widespread is it?
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Thanks!
I don't really care about the camera. The lack of development is a bummer. Might have been a deal breaker for me if it wasn't for Xposed.
Oh, one more thing - some users had an issue with ghosting or after images on the screen. Anyone had this problem? How widespread is it?
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It really is a matter of luck... Some of the phones were bad from factory.. You have something like that, you'll get it replaced with your warrenty.
If you want to keep it long term and lack of updates (and also latest apps) will bug you then I suggest Nexus 6 over it. My dad has this phone and I have the nexus, dont get me wrong g flex is a nice phone but starting to fall back in technology and will likely not get updates for 2+ years
Hello everyone,
I'm looking to upgrade my note 4 (H version) to either a note 5 or edge plus, I aware that both phones are 95% identical yet there are few things that are still not clear to me which would help me decide. I know that each phone is targeted toward different audience however, the main decisive factor in purchasing the note series in the 1st place was the display size & the hardware, the stylus functionality was always an added value.
If some of you might be wondering why I'm upgrading from N 910H its because of the 4g support, 64 bit chip, premium build quality and I'm guessing it will enjoy better vendor & community support than the H version that I have.
As such, I would appreciate your help if you could provide me with your experiences/ knowledge:
1- Which one has less bloat ware that might sluggish the performance of the device? for e.g. the note 5 comes with a lot of Samsung software/optimization for its stylus functionality which might impact the smoothness of the device not to mentioned TW
2- Which one has more usable storage (less system memory) considering the limited storage options we have?
3- Which device scored better in benchmarks testing such as Antutu ?
4- Which one has longer battery life?
Thanks everyone
after my experience with my 32GB S6 edge, i realised just how small of a storage it is and went with a 64GB for my Note 5 Duos. the OS takes up just over 1.5GB and System Memory takes up under 10GB. if you need the S-Pen, your number 1 becomes a moot point.
if you need the absolute peak performance in processing speed and battery life, then i would think it becomes a very negligible difference between the two. i haven't seen actual comparison specs, but i would imagine they're both similar.
personally, i really wanted the curved front screen, but the stylus will always win me over. i need it for cropping screenshots, diagramming and taking notes, quickly. and like i tell everyone else, in case you ever need it, at least the stylus will always be there.
The curved screen is a gimmick. The novelty will wear off very quickly. I honestly don't see the point. It looks cool, granted, but it makes content look distorted. Why would you want that?!
Anyway, it wasn't even a choice for me. Note 5 all the way.
If I chose the edge+ over the note 5 I would only do so if it has "proven" better battery life, more available storage and smoother experience (less bloat ware) not because of the curved display.
I have the edge, I really like it a lot, but I don't use the edge what so ever. Basically bought the phone due to the color, and looks. Extremely visually appealing.
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That's a tough decision. .. but then you have to pick a color! !!!
I would ideally own all of them!
I had the S6E before buying the Note 5 and while I loved the look and feel of the Edge screen, there were 2 major reasons I didn't buy the plus. The first is simply I didn't even use the few edge features there were, as previously said it's gimmicky. Second, and this is the big one, terrible options for glass screen protectors. It may seem odd to make a buying decision based on the screen protector support but I cannot and will not go back to anything but tempered glass and I am not willing to forgo any sort of protection at all.
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I had the S6E before buying the Note 5 and while I loved the look and feel of the Edge screen, there were 2 major reasons I didn't buy the plus. The first is simply I didn't even use the few edge features there were, as previously said it's gimmicky. Second, and this is the big one, terrible options for glass screen protectors. It may seem odd to make a buying decision based on the screen protector support but I cannot and will not go back to anything but tempered glass and I am not willing to forgo any sort of protection at all.
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That's exactly my issue with the s6. I couldn't buy the proper protection for it and it got broken on me. The note 5 is much better with protection and cases.
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So I will be switching to T-Mobile here very shortly. I was really eyeing up the OnePlus 3T, but noticed I could get an S7 or even some S7 Edges for around the same price on Swappa. I'm really not a fan of the bloat on the Samsung's, but for around the same price with better camera and waterproofing, I'm really torn between the two. Thoughts?
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So I will be switching to T-Mobile here very shortly. I was really eyeing up the OnePlus 3T, but noticed I could get an S7 or even some S7 Edges for around the same price on Swappa. I'm really not a fan of the bloat on the Samsung's, but for around the same price with better camera and waterproofing, I'm really torn between the two. Thoughts?
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S7 Edge if you prefer screen and camera.....if software is only your preference..then Oneplus 3T....
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S7 Edge if you prefer screen and camera.....if software is only your preference..then Oneplus 3T....
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I ended up just snagging an S7 Edge on Swappa for a real good price. I like the OP3(T)'s software comminity, but currently having a Droid Turbo (basically no root) I got out of the habit of flashing all the time. I'll take the better camera, waterproofing, and micro USB over USB C dash charging and the dev community. Shame on me, I know haha
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
s3axel said:
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
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Yeah I do like the micro SD slot as well, although it's not a deal-breaker. Never really used wireless charging as I always put a good case on my phone, and it's usually just a tad too thick to make the connection; so cable charging isn't any issue. I realize USB C will eventually become more widespread, but with me already having Qualcomm 2.0 chargers and a power bank, the change wouldn't be as smooth.
I travel for work and take a lot of pictures, so I am really looking forward to the low-light performance, but I agree Samsung's phone do oversaturate their photos somewhat.
I live in the US so I'm stuck with the Snapdragon processor
Thought the OP3T battery is only 3400, and S7 edge 3600
s3axel said:
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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Nope
For sure the S7 display is very nice and also much higher resolution (530 vs 440 PPI, IIRC). This leads to more information that can be stuffed onto the screen, but actually for my aging eyes this results sometimes in worse readability
All in all the screen is no reason for me to stay on the S7.
Cheers, Axel
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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S7 Edge screen is way better than OP3..I have both
I've been with LG about 2 years now and I miss my stylus of the note 3. However the audio quality of the v20 does make an impression.
My concerns with the phone is this:
- glass body, can it take drops? I am getting conflicting reports that it's really fragile and other reports it's one of the toughest.
- battery life, will it last all day without a charge whole connected to Bluetooth? One of the big perks of the v20 is you can get extended batteries which I then don't have to worry about a stupid mid day charge. I use a clip portable speaker at work in which it will be connected to most of the time to play music.
- Camera speed. Does the camera have shutter lag? I've seen quality videos on YouTube and it seems pretty good in that category probably better than this v20.
- the biggest problem I have by far with Samsung is all the junkware they install. Can most of this stuff be disabled without root? (i.e. Package Disabler) I rooted my note 3 just to get it running smoothly but those were better days where root was pretty easy to do.
- stylus performance, is it like writing on paper or is it laggy? My son has a stylo 3 and while it works ok it's not responsive like my note 3 was.
With so many top notch phones out now the choice is harder than ever. Especially since there is no removable battery flagship phones.
Thanks for any comments or suggestions. [emoji2]
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Glass body = fragile. Corningware claims GG5 can survive a 6 foot drop onto rough surfaces 80% of the time. My wife dropped her S8+ about 6 inches into a stool at the gym and cracked the screen. I saw it happen.
GG5 is also very soft. It scratches very easy in my experience. So plan on a case, a good screen protector, and just treat it like...well...GLASS. LOL.
Battery life is very good. I listen to music via Bluetooth earbuds for about 1.5 to 2 hrs at the gym, while receiving text messages, emails, and FB messages and usually only lose a couple a few percent in battery. But I've never left it off charger and on BT all day though, so I don't know. Id say just get you a wireless charger to set it on.
Camera is AMAZING. No lag that I've noticed. 2x OPTICAL zoom, not digital. And the Pixel2 camera has been ported. I love it.
As far as junkware... I'm a Nexus/Pixel guy. I've had a few Sammy's and use to agree about Touchwiz and Sammy apps. Now, I like the Samsung Experience software and the native Samsung apps. They integrate so smoothly, and the exclusive S-Pen features are really nice. But if you have to debloat, a search here will tell you how to do it
I don't see any lag in the S-Pen. I love using it just for navigating, but also for Smart Select, copy and paste ANYTHING, taking notes, etc...
Your best bet is to find a friend with one or go to Best Buy and just play with one. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Glass body = fragile. Corningware claims GG5 can survive a 6 foot drop onto rough surfaces 80% of the time. My wife dropped her S8+ about 6 inches into a stool at the gym and cracked the screen. I saw it happen.
GG5 is also very soft. It scratches very easy in my experience. So plan on a case, a good screen protector, and just treat it like...well...GLASS. LOL.
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To be fair... The galaxy S8 is totally different to the Note 8, and yes the S8 is easy to smash. The S8s corners are so round
However I've not seen this with the Note 8. (But ofcourse glass is glass) it's just the S8 is so damn easy to smash, comparison is unfair
OP - Maybe check out Jerryrigeverything's durability test on YouTube, he does scratch tests on there too, personally I never use a screen protector and have never scratched any of my GG5 smartphones. But that's down to the user really and how you treat it.
I gave my S7Edge to the misses and she's scratched the hell out of it in a couple weeks :laugh:
IMHO though I think the Note8 is hands down the best on the market at the moment, and I'm not hoping much for the S9 but may upgrade to a Note 9
(Pre-ordered mine and had it for a few months now)
I left the V20 to go back to Samsung with the Note 8
My best phone so far by far!
Glass body, I use a good silicone skin the covers the corners with enough buffer that I'm not worried. I also suggest at least a curved plastic screen protector if not a good curved tempered glass although I haven't seen much on the market that actually fits properly.
As for battery life, I'm always near a QC 2.0 Charger at home / office / in car so I just charge when I can. It really depends on your screen on time, that's usually the culprit. I never bothered with a second battery for the V20 and both these phone have Quick charging so invest in a portable Aukey or Tronsmart QC power bank.
The camera has really no lag in comparison with my previous phones: V20 / Note 7 / S7Edge / Note 4 / S4.... It opens quick and shoots quicker, slower with flash of course. Love the 2x optical zoom. I found the V20 to take inferior pictures and the wide angle skewed edges to be quite annoying.
Not going to root this phone. I like it the way it is. I use Nova Launcher which is smooth and trying out MS Launcher currently, also nice.
Stylus is my main reason for returning back to the Note series. I was very turned off with the Note 7 recall so I ended up with LG. The stylus is great with nice software implementation. It's not paper but writes accurately.
Hope this helps.
Larry ( Montreal Canada)
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I've been with LG about 2 years now and I miss my stylus of the note 3. However the audio quality of the v20 does make an impression.
My concerns with the phone is this:
- glass body, can it take drops? I am getting conflicting reports that it's really fragile and other reports it's one of the toughest.
- battery life, will it last all day without a charge whole connected to Bluetooth? One of the big perks of the v20 is you can get extended batteries which I then don't have to worry about a stupid mid day charge. I use a clip portable speaker at work in which it will be connected to most of the time to play music.
- Camera speed. Does the camera have shutter lag? I've seen quality videos on YouTube and it seems pretty good in that category probably better than this v20.
- the biggest problem I have by far with Samsung is all the junkware they install. Can most of this stuff be disabled without root? (i.e. Package Disabler) I rooted my note 3 just to get it running smoothly but those were better days where root was pretty easy to do.
- stylus performance, is it like writing on paper or is it laggy? My son has a stylo 3 and while it works ok it's not responsive like my note 3 was.
With so many top notch phones out now the choice is harder than ever. Especially since there is no removable battery flagship phones.
Thanks for any comments or suggestions. [emoji2]
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I came from a V20 to the Note 8. It's like driving a Honda Civic then driving a Porsche.
As long as you are not planning to drive headphones with huge impedance, you should be fine with the Note 8; the DAC is not extravagently mediatised but it is no slouch.
Coming from S9, Note 10+ and many other older galaxy phones have to say this is absolutely the worst Samsung device I have ever owned.
For those considering, here are reasons why you should strongly think about whether you want to spend the money on this particular model
- Extremely large and heavy device. Doesn't fit in pockets, pulls down pants / shirts it is so heavy
- Extremely unbalanced. Hurts your hand / wrist trying to balance it unless you get a popsocket because it is so top heavy
- Super fragile screen. Low cost panel is super easy to break. Mine broke after 4 weeks of light use in a weird way (half on / half off, intermittant dimming of each display half)
- Loaded with malware. Tons of Samsung malware / adware / spyware to debloat, assuming you get the Exynos
- Back coating for anything but Silver is super easily chipped. Phantom Black chips daily unless you get a case (and increase the size)
- Runs hot. Nice in winter to keep you hands warm but otherwise annoying - any videos or games and expect to feel the heat
- Slow to charge. Super Fast charger takes an hour and a half
- Camera is misleading. Only certain zoom increments work correctly - all others are blurry / basically no improvement relative to s20
While the 10x zoom is sort of cool the reality is that this phone is a lemon compared to other Samsungs or current Apple competition.
Very unrefined effort relative to iphone or better Sammy devices (ex. Note 10+ or Galaxy Alpha) in terms of weight / materials / balance / display.
Likely last Samsung I buy - seriously considering Pixel 5 on GrapheneOS given the litany of hardware and software issues from a super expensive phone you don't really even own.
Interesting perspective. This is my first return to Samsung after writing them off years ago. Outside of the bloat (which can be removed via ADB) and the lack luster camera performance (in comparison to the Pixel line) the phone is solid! It's not any heavier than other similar size devices. It's very fluid and smooth. It's got great hardware and build quality.
If it hurts your wrist... I really can't help you there. Never had such an issue. The balance point in the device is at about the power button so pretty mid phone really.
Most of the weight related comments are subjective. I actually prefer the weight and feel of this device compared to the Note 20 ultra.
You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
blackhawk said:
You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
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I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
This is an entirely subjective assessment of the phone. I never had any of these issues and I thoroughly enjoy the experience of the phone. I made sure to do my research before getting this phone and weigh what the important aspects of it vs the not so important aspects. I'm sorry you've had this experience and I hope you get the right device for you next time.
Are your Wrists made out of glass?
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Are your Wrists made out of glass?
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Mine are quite strong surprisingly
Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
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Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
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Indeed. The issue with the size and weight would've been avoided if he/she had done a physical trial of the phone before buying.
Also, the experience of one doesn't mean the experience of many.
Limeybastard said:
I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
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Which device are you debloating, the 20U right?
I sent you a PM.
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Mine are quite strong surprisingly
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Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
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Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
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Walk softly and carry a big S21...
Sounds to me like the author of this potentially sarcastic post, really needs a pink iphone 12 mini.....
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
lywyn said:
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Yes so true, pleaze always use a case.
As for the rest; we were once gods.
Yeah... it's so depressing
Someone's angsty.
lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Can you PM your business card. Cheers.
This thread is going south ...
We got the OP's point. Point !