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help me decide between note 5 vs edge plus

Hello everyone,
I'm looking to upgrade my note 4 (H version) to either a note 5 or edge plus, I aware that both phones are 95% identical yet there are few things that are still not clear to me which would help me decide. I know that each phone is targeted toward different audience however, the main decisive factor in purchasing the note series in the 1st place was the display size & the hardware, the stylus functionality was always an added value.
If some of you might be wondering why I'm upgrading from N 910H its because of the 4g support, 64 bit chip, premium build quality and I'm guessing it will enjoy better vendor & community support than the H version that I have.
As such, I would appreciate your help if you could provide me with your experiences/ knowledge:
1- Which one has less bloat ware that might sluggish the performance of the device? for e.g. the note 5 comes with a lot of Samsung software/optimization for its stylus functionality which might impact the smoothness of the device not to mentioned TW
2- Which one has more usable storage (less system memory) considering the limited storage options we have?
3- Which device scored better in benchmarks testing such as Antutu ?
4- Which one has longer battery life?
Thanks everyone

after my experience with my 32GB S6 edge, i realised just how small of a storage it is and went with a 64GB for my Note 5 Duos. the OS takes up just over 1.5GB and System Memory takes up under 10GB. if you need the S-Pen, your number 1 becomes a moot point.
if you need the absolute peak performance in processing speed and battery life, then i would think it becomes a very negligible difference between the two. i haven't seen actual comparison specs, but i would imagine they're both similar.
personally, i really wanted the curved front screen, but the stylus will always win me over. i need it for cropping screenshots, diagramming and taking notes, quickly. and like i tell everyone else, in case you ever need it, at least the stylus will always be there.

The curved screen is a gimmick. The novelty will wear off very quickly. I honestly don't see the point. It looks cool, granted, but it makes content look distorted. Why would you want that?!
Anyway, it wasn't even a choice for me. Note 5 all the way.

If I chose the edge+ over the note 5 I would only do so if it has "proven" better battery life, more available storage and smoother experience (less bloat ware) not because of the curved display.

I have the edge, I really like it a lot, but I don't use the edge what so ever. Basically bought the phone due to the color, and looks. Extremely visually appealing.
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That's a tough decision. .. but then you have to pick a color! !!!
I would ideally own all of them!

I had the S6E before buying the Note 5 and while I loved the look and feel of the Edge screen, there were 2 major reasons I didn't buy the plus. The first is simply I didn't even use the few edge features there were, as previously said it's gimmicky. Second, and this is the big one, terrible options for glass screen protectors. It may seem odd to make a buying decision based on the screen protector support but I cannot and will not go back to anything but tempered glass and I am not willing to forgo any sort of protection at all.

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I had the S6E before buying the Note 5 and while I loved the look and feel of the Edge screen, there were 2 major reasons I didn't buy the plus. The first is simply I didn't even use the few edge features there were, as previously said it's gimmicky. Second, and this is the big one, terrible options for glass screen protectors. It may seem odd to make a buying decision based on the screen protector support but I cannot and will not go back to anything but tempered glass and I am not willing to forgo any sort of protection at all.
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That's exactly my issue with the s6. I couldn't buy the proper protection for it and it got broken on me. The note 5 is much better with protection and cases.
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Did any one tried lg v10 and nexus 6p?

hello brothers
i just wanna ask if any one had tried lg v10 and nexus 6p??
i wanna to try them
i really wish some one tell me his honest opinion
i have note 5 too

rowihel2012 said:
hello brothers
i just wanna ask if any one had tried lg v10 and nexus 6p??
i wanna to try them
i really wish some one tell me his honest opinion
i have note 5 too
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Alright, here are some of my thoughts on the phones :
I've had the 6P for about a month. Sending it back actually.
It is taller than the Note, and heavier. The metal feels nice, and the stereo speakers are awesome, not quite as good as a Moto X, but close. The Note's speaker is actually pretty decent as well, it will just be firing off to the side rather than towards you like the Nexus, but its not dramatically worse or anything. Battery life was comparable to what I see from the Note, some days better, some days worse. The UI is blazing fast, more importantly it is consistently fast, without the occasional judders you might see on the Note, especially when scrolling. It is running stock android, well Google's idea of "stock". So there aren't as many features as Samsung likes to put in, no multitasking like the Note, and obviously no s-pen.
The camera is fantastic, especially with HDR+ on, but it really suffers from the lack of OIS in 4K video. In 1080p, it has EIS, which does a decent job. I noticed it tends to capture more light than the Note 5 in low light videos, but it will be a bit more noisy. The Note tends to over expose a bit to get more light in some shots causing some bright lights to be blown out, while the 6P will do a bit better job. However I did notice in most shots, the 6P sort of under expose, and you get an overall dark shot, sometimes it is darker with HDR+. That may be fixed with an update. The Note produces warmer images in my opinion, while the 6P leans toward a slightly cooler temperature. Obviously, the camera app on the 6P is pretty simple and straight forward, but does not offer the many modes and manual controls you find on the Note. Third party apps can help with that. Overall, as far as the camera is concerned, I prefer the Note. It has slightly softer details and warmer colors than the 6P and just looks more pleasing to my eyes, not to mention, the Note is very quick in opening and capturing the images. Double clicking the power button opens the camera, so that works fine.
Front facing camera on the 6P is pretty great. Didn't use it all that much though.
Display is slightly better on the Note, but if you set it to AMOLED photo, it looks pretty much the same as the 6P. A very nice panel on the 6P, really.
I seemed to have slightly better cell reception with the 6P as well on T-Mobile.
Finger print sensor is far quicker and more accurate on the 6P, but it is on the back. Makes it a bit difficult to use when placing the phone face up on a surface. On the other hand, it is really easy to unlock while taking it out of your pocket.
No wireless charging on the 6P, but it does support faster charging speeds with USB C's power profiles (5V @ 3A) and a USB C charger. Usually took about 90 minutes to charge from empty to full.
The Nexus 6P is a fantastic phone, but in the end, I missed the added features of the Note, especially the s-pen. If you really don't care for the extras that Samsung adds and don't really care about super stabilized 4k video recording or manual controls on the camera, etc., then the 6P is great choice. Being a Nexus, you will get timely updates as well. My 6P was already on 6.0.1. If you are keen on trying stock android, this is a good phone to do so.
As for the V10, I had one for about a day, so I can't really say too much about it It's built like a tank. The camera is fantastic like the G4. Removable back and expandable storage always a plus. The second screen is kind of useful I suppose, but I didn't have it long enough to really tell. I really didn't like LG's skin though and it seemed like the dpi was set by default to a value where everything (UI elements, etc.) are just hideously big... You can change the font size, but the UI elements will still stay just as big...
The V10 is basically a beefed up G4. If you loved the G4, you will love the V10.

I traded in my Note 5 for the V10. I have had it about 2 weeks thus far. I can speak freely and say that as far as daily operations with the device, I do like the note 5 much more. The Note 5 is faster, I feel the display looked much better, and I prefer the finger print reader on the front. The non-removable battery and lack of SD card just made me feel like my Note was long no longer a power user's device, just a Samsung iPhone. The V10 as far as operation is more in the Note 4 category, but with a Note 5 camera.

walrusmonarch said:
Alright, here are some of my thoughts on the phones :
I've had the 6P for about a month. Sending it back actually.
It is taller than the Note, and heavier. The metal feels nice, and the stereo speakers are awesome, not quite as good as a Moto X, but close. The Note's speaker is actually pretty decent as well, it will just be firing off to the side rather than towards you like the Nexus, but its not dramatically worse or anything. Battery life was comparable to what I see from the Note, some days better, some days worse. The UI is blazing fast, more importantly it is consistently fast, without the occasional judders you might see on the Note, especially when scrolling. It is running stock android, well Google's idea of "stock". So there aren't as many features as Samsung likes to put in, no multitasking like the Note, and obviously no s-pen.
The camera is fantastic, especially with HDR+ on, but it really suffers from the lack of OIS in 4K video. In 1080p, it has EIS, which does a decent job. I noticed it tends to capture more light than the Note 5 in low light videos, but it will be a bit more noisy. The Note tends to over expose a bit to get more light in some shots causing some bright lights to be blown out, while the 6P will do a bit better job. However I did notice in most shots, the 6P sort of under expose, and you get an overall dark shot, sometimes it is darker with HDR+. That may be fixed with an update. The Note produces warmer images in my opinion, while the 6P leans toward a slightly cooler temperature. Obviously, the camera app on the 6P is pretty simple and straight forward, but does not offer the many modes and manual controls you find on the Note. Third party apps can help with that. Overall, as far as the camera is concerned, I prefer the Note. It has slightly softer details and warmer colors than the 6P and just looks more pleasing to my eyes, not to mention, the Note is very quick in opening and capturing the images. Double clicking the power button opens the camera, so that works fine.
Front facing camera on the 6P is pretty great. Didn't use it all that much though.
Display is slightly better on the Note, but if you set it to AMOLED photo, it looks pretty much the same as the 6P. A very nice panel on the 6P, really.
I seemed to have slightly better cell reception with the 6P as well on T-Mobile.
Finger print sensor is far quicker and more accurate on the 6P, but it is on the back. Makes it a bit difficult to use when placing the phone face up on a surface. On the other hand, it is really easy to unlock while taking it out of your pocket.
No wireless charging on the 6P, but it does support faster charging speeds with USB C's power profiles (5V @ 3A) and a USB C charger. Usually took about 90 minutes to charge from empty to full.
The Nexus 6P is a fantastic phone, but in the end, I missed the added features of the Note, especially the s-pen. If you really don't care for the extras that Samsung adds and don't really care about super stabilized 4k video recording or manual controls on the camera, etc., then the 6P is great choice. Being a Nexus, you will get timely updates as well. My 6P was already on 6.0.1. If you are keen on trying stock android, this is a good phone to do so.
As for the V10, I had one for about a day, so I can't really say too much about it It's built like a tank. The camera is fantastic like the G4. Removable back and expandable storage always a plus. The second screen is kind of useful I suppose, but I didn't have it long enough to really tell. I really didn't like LG's skin though and it seemed like the dpi was set by default to a value where everything (UI elements, etc.) are just hideously big... You can change the font size, but the UI elements will still stay just as big...
The V10 is basically a beefed up G4. If you loved the G4, you will love the V10.
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thank you bro for your great words
i had the lg pro 2 and it was fantastic phone
never had nexus phone before
i am very confused should i buy nexus 6p or lg v10
with my note 5 i love the speed and smooth
so lg v10 is fast and smooth or not?
nexus 6p fast and smooth?

ScorpionKing76 said:
I traded in my Note 5 for the V10. I have had it about 2 weeks thus far. I can speak freely and say that as far as daily operations with the device, I do like the note 5 much more. The Note 5 is faster, I feel the display looked much better, and I prefer the finger print reader on the front. The non-removable battery and lack of SD card just made me feel like my Note was long no longer a power user's device, just a Samsung iPhone. The V10 as far as operation is more in the Note 4 category, but with a Note 5 camera.
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what? like note4?
the note 4 is laggy not smooth at all and gets too hot
lg v10 is like this ****?

Perhaps I just ran a great custom rom on my Note 4, but I didn't have any issues with lag or heat. Not having any issues with those on the v10 either. It's not quite as fluid as the Note 5 to me though.
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I have both.
N6p pros
Fast (damn fast)
Body construction
Screen it is awesome
Speaker are loud and clear
Battery is great
Cons
Lack of OIS
Slippery
V10 pros
Camera (front and back)
Built quality
Second screen is useful
Cons
HDR is to much
Lag, a lot of (compared to N6p)
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I had the v10 for a bit, it was nice but has nothing on the Note 5. The 6p is nice, my buddy has it so I play with it all the time. I still think the Note 5 is better. My complaint about the 6p is that the UX is no different that smaller phones, just blown up. Google did nothing to take advantage of the larger screen. The Note 5 is a true phablet, the 6p is just a blown up smartphone. Note 5 all the way.

OnePlus and Display Color Accuracy

Ordered my OnePlus last week (I'm upgrading from a Moto X 2015 Pure) and I'm looking forward to getting it. I've been looking over various reviews and came across this one by AnandTech, regarding the display color/accuracy:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
The OnePlus doesn't score very high on the benchmarks that were used, but what I'm curious about is why OnePlus chose to render NTSC color space, instead of the more widely accepted RGB standard?
The author of the review states:
"After reaching out to OnePlus, explaining why the choice of the NTSC color space as a target doesn't make any sense, and showing the errors it causes with sRGB rendition, they told me that they now intend to offer an sRGB mode as an option in an upcoming OTA update."
Is this something that can be tweaked once I get the phone or will I have to wait? I know color accuracy may not be a big deal to many of you, a lot displays are overly saturated straight from factory anyways, but I've also been seeing reports of green tint etc by various reviews/users. I just wanted to post this information here and wanted to know what your thoughts/opinions are about this.

I feel the display has more of a blue tint than a green.
Some of the issues can be fixed through software, imo. Not all.
The display as it is, isn't as bad as that suggests. But it could be improved for sure. I think they've tried to oversaturate to compensate for the panel.

I think this was a gamble to actually appeal to more customers. This is not very surprising. TVs in the store also often have "presentation" mode with very vivid color (not correct ones) to catch peoples attention. Only those who care calibrate later for best color reproduction. In the store, vivid picture sells the device. Before technical analyses came out, there were plenty of reviews (if not all) saying how good display looks. Most were saying that sure, it would be good to have 2K, but this 1080 screen still looks great, etc. No complaints about color.
I think many people would point and say that screen with very vivid colors looks better next to perfectly calibrated (not so vivid screen). That is just how it is. For a company (Oneplus) that depends on internet sales (not sales through carriers) it probably wasn't a good decision after all. With so much hype and scrutiny going around "sRGB mode as an option" probably should've been there to begin with, so technical people have less to complain about and pop out colors crowd had their treat as well.

Droff said:
I think this was a gamble to actually appeal to more customers. This is not very surprising. TVs in the store also often have "presentation" mode with very vivid color (not correct ones) to catch peoples attention. Only those who care calibrate later for best color reproduction. In the store, vivid picture sells the device. Before technical analyses came out, there were plenty of reviews (if not all) saying how good display looks. Most were saying that sure, it would be good to have 2K, but this 1080 screen still looks great, etc. No complaints about color.
I think many people would point and say that screen with very vivid colors looks better next to perfectly calibrated (not so vivid screen). That is just how it is. For a company (Oneplus) that depends on internet sales (not sales through carriers) it probably wasn't a good decision after all. With so much hype and scrutiny going around "sRGB mode as an option" probably should've been there to begin with, so technical people have less to complain about and pop out colors crowd had their treat as well.
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Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great. The colors look about the same as the default adaptive display mode of the Note 5 and Galaxy S7, but the white balance is actually better (my OP3 has less green tint than my S7 Edge). If the Galaxy S7 didn't have the basic mode display setting that no one actually enables, Anandtech would have given it just as bad of a review as they gave the OnePlus 3.
As for sharpness, it's a non-issue. You can't even tell it's lower resolution than the S7 Edge unless you bring the phone about 6 inches from you face, and even then, it's not easy to tell.
Brightness is good too. I compared it to my S7 Edge out in sunlight today and the S7 Edge was only slightly brighter. Both were easily readable though.
At this point, I am leaning towards going back to the S7 Edge and returning the OP3, but it's not an easy decision. I have changed my mind back and forth several times. If I didn't already own an S7 Edge and was deciding between paying $800 or $400, it would be an easy choice... the OnePlus 3. It is soo close to providing an experience just as good as the S7 Edge. There are only a few small areas in which it falls a little bit behind, but those small improvements aren't worth double the price.

gtg465x said:
Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great. The colors look about the same as the default adaptive display mode of the Note 5 and Galaxy S7, but the white balance is actually better (my OP3 has less green tint than my S7 Edge). If the Galaxy S7 didn't have the basic mode display setting that no one actually enables, Anandtech would have given it just as bad of a review as they gave the OnePlus 3.
As for sharpness, it's a non-issue. You can't even tell it's lower resolution than the S7 Edge unless you bring the phone about 6 inches from you face, and even then, it's not easy to tell.
Brightness is good too. I compared it to my S7 Edge out in sunlight today and the S7 Edge was only slightly brighter. Both were easily readable though.
At this point, I am leaning towards going back to the S7 Edge and returning the OP3, but it's not an easy decision. I have changed my mind back and forth several times. If I didn't already own an S7 Edge and was deciding between paying $800 or $400, it would be an easy choice... the OnePlus 3. It is soo close to providing an experience just as good as the S7 Edge. There are only a few small areas in which it falls a little bit behind, but those small improvements aren't worth double the price.
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can you discern individual pixels because of the pentile technology that is used? that's really crucial. I'm not really bothered by some inaccuracies that the display might have. I'm using my note 4 with adaptive display which for sure is not accurate but i do like it. I think those innacuracies can be fixed with an OTA display profile or some tweaking with custom kernel. But pixelation cannot be fixed. So there you have it. Could you discern individual pixels. Ty for your review

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Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great. The colors look about the same as the default adaptive display mode of the Note 5 and Galaxy S7, but the white balance is actually better (my OP3 has less green tint than my S7 Edge). If the Galaxy S7 didn't have the basic mode display setting that no one actually enables, Anandtech would have given it just as bad of a review as they gave the OnePlus 3.
As for sharpness, it's a non-issue. You can't even tell it's lower resolution than the S7 Edge unless you bring the phone about 6 inches from you face, and even then, it's not easy to tell.
Brightness is good too. I compared it to my S7 Edge out in sunlight today and the S7 Edge was only slightly brighter. Both were easily readable though.
At this point, I am leaning towards going back to the S7 Edge and returning the OP3, but it's not an easy decision. I have changed my mind back and forth several times. If I didn't already own an S7 Edge and was deciding between paying $800 or $400, it would be an easy choice... the OnePlus 3. It is soo close to providing an experience just as good as the S7 Edge. There are only a few small areas in which it falls a little bit behind, but those small improvements aren't worth double the price.
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Thank you for your input, it is much appreciated. I should be receiving my OP3 by the end of this week, can't wait!

gtg465x said:
Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great.
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Note: long post, a bit off topic, but mostly about the display.
I was very worried about this, especially as I already on OP2 and was wondering whether I should get the OP3. According to anandtech, OP3 is amazing in everything other than the screen calibration, just like the OP2. So thanks for the clarification. :highfive: It's annoying that they didn't cover some topics like audio/DAC quality and community development support. The amount of source code released is staggering, on par with a Nexus, even dash charge will work as they will release the binaries as stated on their GitHub. We got our first custom rom within an hour of the op3 announcement, which I believe is a new record. Many famous devs from other devices are moving to the OP3, like arter97, DespairFactor and sultanxda. And we already have grarak.
But I was also wondering(since I don't have a spectrophotometer) whether the default color profile on custom roms for the op2 and op3 are accurate or whether they are same as stock. I tried the threads, but couldn't find a satisfactory answer. I assume with kcal it could be fixed, but atleast for the OP2 I have found no color profiles that claim to have been a result of accurate calibration using a spectrophotometer. So I just boosted the saturation a tiny bit and it looks much better. You are right that the display looks good though, but users will never know the difference if they aren't exposed to accurate colors right? I wonder how anandtech knows that the display colors seem off just by looking at it.
And like the other user said, this is actually odd because oneplus sells through the internet, not retail, so they have no incentive to calibrate to appear "vivid", whatever that's supposed to mean. So I basically don't understand why oneplus would choose to calibrate their display like this.
About the resolution, atleast on my OP2 and a friend's Galaxy note 5(stock, friend isn't a power user) compared side to side(at different viewing distances), I could tell that the note 5 display was way better/sharper, atleast to me. And I actually went in expecting my op2 display to be better.
I don't know whether that was because of the colors or actual resolution or something else. I could also notice how freaking blue the op2 display was when we compared high res black and white pictures. To be fair, the black and white pic on the note 5 looked a bit yellow to me.
So to sum up, my questions are,
is the default color profile on custom roms for op2/op3 accurate unlike stock?
If not, is there an easy way to obtain an accurate display on these devices using kcal or something else?
Why do OEMs choose to calibrate displays inaccurately?
Is display accuracy a good thing or bad thing?
Regardless, I am most likely going to purchase an OP3(although I'm still skeptical about the display), since as you said, the numerous advantages dwarf the few minor flaws, and it costs half as much as many flagships. I'm currently in India, but will be going to the US in August to study undergrad computer science (maybe get into Android development as well!). So I'm probably going to have to wait to purchase the north american model instead of the global one for LTE reasons, will have to check. Kinda sucks. I wonder why oems have SO MANY different variants of the same phone(especially Samsung). One reason I can think of is they can't fit in all the LTE and other radios required to support all frequencies/bands without compromising on other parts of the phone.
I personally think a cool phone for some people would be one that has one large compromise, but is near perfect in everything else, like design, performance, and dev support. For example, a phone without cameras, but near perfect in everything else. Maybe if the op3 eliminated the camera and poured that money into the display and other minor flaws, it would have been even better! Just my opinion though.
Edit: hey I just realized, that's the strength of truly modular phones!!! You can choose your own compromises, like no large camera in favour of using that space for a larger battery, or some other combo! Ugh, that was so obvious..

knpk13 said:
Note: long post, a bit off topic, but mostly about the display.
Why do OEMs choose to calibrate displays inaccurately?
Is display accuracy a good thing or bad thing?
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Looks like Carl posted his thoughts on the latest Anandtech review (regarding the display):
"With our relationships in the supply chain, we know the BOM (bill of materials) of all other flagships. Out of all the devices that the OnePlus 3 gets compared to, it is one of, if not the most expensive to make. Do you think the price delta between a 2K AMOLED and a 1080p AMOLED is huge? It's a product decision, and spec by spec is not how to judge a product. The OnePlus 3 uses latest generation AMOLED made to our specifications by Samsung. The vast majority of our users, and reviewers love Optic AMOLED. It is NOT tuned to sRGB, and was never meant to be. sRGB tuning is a niche requirement and is not the right choice for the vast majority of smartphone users. Why do you think it's hidden under developer settings on the 6P? For those who need it, we've taken note, and have added it to the next OTA."
Source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/even-carl-tires-of-constant-nitpicking-display-options-forthcoming-on-next-ota.451786/

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Looks like Carl posted his thoughts on the latest Anandtech review (regarding the display):
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Interesting. Check out further debate in the comments.
http://www.anandtech.com/comments/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/504784
I'm no expert, but it seems like anandtech sticks to sRGB for a reason. I would not trust any party(oneplus, anandtech, anyone else) too much until I have more info. But you have to admit anandtech seem slightly more trustworthy since they give you "real" reasons and are a 3rd party reviewer unlike oneplus. Carl's reason was just that people like it and sRGB is not the standard(no reason provided). He didn't even respond to the usage of pentile amoled(last used in the Galaxy note 3 I believe). And im confused as to why he is citing expenses. That does not seem relevant (if we don't take into consideration that higher price means higher quality).
Usually your eyes just adapt to the display regardless of its color accuracy, since I don't think most people can't judge very well whether colors are accurate.(including me)
Thanks for the link though. Wonder when Android when implement some kind of color calibration standard. Or when some kind of metric for smartphone display quality/accuracy will be developed.
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Here's another link. Note the last paragraph which I've also pasted here in hide quotes.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7821/color-gamut-in-mobile-and-pcs
Seems pretty unbiased and there really doesn't seem to be any incentive for them to misconstrue their report.
http://gizmodo.com/which-smartphone-and-tablet-displays-show-the-most-accu-1660275228
Ultimately, such quibbles over color gamut and the resultant color accuracy of the display may not be able to override the dominant discourse of subjectively evaluated color in a display, and many people prefer the look of an oversaturated display to that of a properly calibrated one. But within the debates that will undoubtedly take place over such a subject, it is crucial to keep in mind that regardless of personal opinion on display colors, color accuracy is a quantitative, objective analysis of display quality. While subjectively, one may prefer a display that has a color gamut larger than sRGB, objectively, such a display isn't accurate. Of course, including a vivid display profile isn't a problem, but there should always be a display profile that makes for accurate color.
@TritonB7 if you're on the oneplus forums (I'm not), I think it would be interesting if you posted there and linked them here to see what their response is.
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I hope someone releases a guide on xda or elsewhere, how to calibrate displays accurately using kcal, or publishes a list of calibrated kcal profiles for different phones. Or maybe there already is a guide like that. I'll try searching.

Konskl said:
can you discern individual pixels because of the pentile technology that is used? that's really crucial. I'm not really bothered by some inaccuracies that the display might have. I'm using my note 4 with adaptive display which for sure is not accurate but i do like it. I think those innacuracies can be fixed with an OTA display profile or some tweaking with custom kernel. But pixelation cannot be fixed. So there you have it. Could you discern individual pixels. Ty for your review
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No, definitely not. If I put the phone about 6 inches from my eyes, I can see some very minor jagged edges on curved lines, but definitely not individual pixels. And at 1 foot plus and normal viewing distances it's very hard to tell that the screen is lower resolution than my S7 Edge.

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can you discern individual pixels because of the pentile technology that is used? that's really crucial. I'm not really bothered by some inaccuracies that the display might have. I'm using my note 4 with adaptive display which for sure is not accurate but i do like it. I think those innacuracies can be fixed with an OTA display profile or some tweaking with custom kernel. But pixelation cannot be fixed. So there you have it. Could you discern individual pixels. Ty for your review
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Two more things fixed. http://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3-reviewer-ota-brings-srgb-mode-and-ram-adjustments/

I just got my phone yesterday and very impressed with it having come from the Moto X Pure. I do see the display shift to blue hue when viewing the display at an angle, but I rarely ever do that and it's not enough to bother me. Also, I thought I'd link to this review regarding ota 3.1.4 ( you will need to use google translate).
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/oneplus/365110_oneplus-3-oxygenos-3-1-4-mise-a-jour-change

For me, the "Optic AMOLED" is most problematic when it comes to having lots of text on the screen and reading text. Granted, that's an extremely important feature, but I just mean that as far as the experience of playing games, consuming media, looking at and taking pictures, and so on, the average user will probably be happier with an oversaturated display (re: more Samsung-like) than they would be with more faithful color reproduction. It seems like to the layman, oversaturation = better quality display, at least to a degree.

Hey everyone, just wanted to check back in and thank everyone for their thoughts on this matter. I also wanted let you all know that Anandtech just posted an update to their original review regarding the OnePlus3 display, stating:
To say that OnePlus's new sRGB mode provides a substantial improvement in display accuracy would be an understatement. The display has gone from being the most inaccurate display that I've seen in years, to being among the most accurate displays that we have on record.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10445/revisiting-the-oneplus-3/2

gtg465x said:
No, definitely not. If I put the phone about 6 inches from my eyes, I can see some very minor jagged edges on curved lines, but definitely not individual pixels. And at 1 foot plus and normal viewing distances it's very hard to tell that the screen is lower resolution than my S7 Edge.
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Mmmmh, its not a truly bad panel but view it in horizontal position and the lack of resolution which drops to around 320 PPI is just too apparent. My guess is the panel is a few generations old. Its the most obvious part where costs have been saved and I do wonder about Op' wisdom on this. Other than that its a good phone IMHO.

Triton, that's really great to hear!
Now if just my replacement device (had irregular color hue on screen...) would be here... then I could enjoy this great phone even more!

drummerman said:
Mmmmh, its not a truly bad panel but view it in horizontal position and the lack of resolution which drops to around 320 PPI is just too apparent. My guess is the panel is a few generations old. Its the most obvious part where costs have been saved and I do wonder about Op' wisdom on this. Other than that its a good phone IMHO.
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If it was a few generations old, it would not be accurate or efficient

I can't wait for the update. These updates will bring positivity to OnePlus 3. I'm waiting for update before root.
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gtg465x said:
Yep. The panel definitely isn't bad quality. Anandtech gave it a poor review based on the calibration, not the quality of the actual panel itself. I can appreciate accurate displays and typically prefer them, but I can tell you this, most people will think the OnePlus 3 display looks great. The colors look about the same as the default adaptive display mode of the Note 5 and Galaxy S7, but the white balance is actually better (my OP3 has less green tint than my S7 Edge). If the Galaxy S7 didn't have the basic mode display setting that no one actually enables, Anandtech would have given it just as bad of a review as they gave the OnePlus 3.
As for sharpness, it's a non-issue. You can't even tell it's lower resolution than the S7 Edge unless you bring the phone about 6 inches from you face, and even then, it's not easy to tell.
Brightness is good too. I compared it to my S7 Edge out in sunlight today and the S7 Edge was only slightly brighter. Both were easily readable though.
At this point, I am leaning towards going back to the S7 Edge and returning the OP3, but it's not an easy decision. I have changed my mind back and forth several times. If I didn't already own an S7 Edge and was deciding between paying $800 or $400, it would be an easy choice... the OnePlus 3. It is soo close to providing an experience just as good as the S7 Edge. There are only a few small areas in which it falls a little bit behind, but those small improvements aren't worth double the price.
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Are you serious? The S7 display is WAY better in every aspect.

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Are you serious? The S7 display is WAY better in every aspect.
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I'm serious. I have both phones right here. And I did say that the S7 Edge display is a little brighter and a little sharper, but I don't see how that makes it WAY better, especially now that OnePlus has provided an update that calibrates it to be just as accurate as the S7 display in sRGB mode.
Many aspects are the same. Both are covered in Gorilla Glass 4. They have equal viewing angles. They are both AMOLED and made by Samsung. They both have similarly accurate colors in sRGB mode.

debating on making a swap

ATM I'm running a S7 edge with Tmobile.. Wife just shattered her screen on her S7 edge so I'm thinking about swapping over to a 3T and give her my s7 edge.. How is this phone comparing to the S7 edge and how does its signal strength compare to the S7 edge on the Tmobile network.. I don't do pics that much so that doesn't matter to me..

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ATM I'm running a S7 edge with Tmobile.. Wife just shattered her screen on her S7 edge so I'm thinking about swapping over to a 3T and give her my s7 edge.. How is this phone comparing to the S7 edge and how does its signal strength compare to the S7 edge on the Tmobile network.. I don't do pics that much so that doesn't matter to me..
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Somebody already reporting speed issue on T-Mo here, the rest IDK.

S7 edge has better hardware, but I think the 3T will have a better software experience. It really comes down to what you use your phone for.
Reasons to get the S7 Edge = better camera, better screen resolution, expandable storage, bigger battery, IP68 waterproof, wireless charging
Reasons to get the 3T = 6GB ram, no TouchWiz, audio DAC, aluminum build, dual nano sim, USB-C, DASH charging

tangsta35 said:
S7 edge has better hardware, but I think the 3T will have a better software experience. It really comes down to what you use your phone for.
Reasons to get the S7 Edge = better camera, better screen resolution, expandable storage, bigger battery, IP68 waterproof, wireless charging
Reasons to get the 3T = 6GB ram, no TouchWiz, audio DAC, aluminum build, dual nano sim, USB-C, DASH charging
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Build is definitely better on S7 edge..I have both

I personally just got rid of the s7e and got this phone. Honestly the best decision I have made in a long time. So far I have zero issues with tmo service. And this thing is so fast in comparison to the s7e. I don't miss the higher resolution screen much at all since I didn't do any vr. It's built great so no complaints there either.
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I also have the S7 Edge and I just bought the 3T. Software is much snappier and better IMO
on the 3T. I did not use the wireless charging and I bought the 128GB version of the 3T so
expandable storage didn't matter. As a matter of fact trying to delete stuff off the micro sd
card was a pain in the butt on the S7 with the way MM handles storage. Battery is almost
the exact same size (200mah difference).
Build quality is excellent on the 3T also. I personally prefer the metal to the glass on the S7 Edge.
Both are excellent phones but having both I prefer the advantages the 3T has.

I think the metal phones are more durable when accidentally dropped compared to the all glass galaxy phones. Also the s7e and note7 are almost impossible to get a tempered class screen protector to fit properly. If you don't believe the galaxy phones are super prone to glass shattering just check ebay for the used galaxy phones and notice how many of those have damaged screens.

Well that didn't last long! So I did love my 3T but it kept turning off and rebooting all by itself even after several full restores with no apps downloaded. OnePlus couldn't guarantee that they'd send me a new sealed unit so I have to return this one for a refund. Back to the S7 edge!

Another S7 edge to OnePlus 3 and now OnePlus 3T swap here!
As others have say the overall experience on the OnePlus if superior than the one on the S7 edge, it feel faster and more consistent day to day, battery life is comparable with the 3T.
The only stuff that the S7 edge beat the OnePlus is the Waterproofing and Wireless charging, Screen resolution is a wash is your are not in VR.

I also came from the S7 edge to the One plus. It is a dlfar better experience. The only advantage in my view is the camera on the S7 is unbelievable. But as other have said the performance and experience is far better on the OnePlus. I dont have any regrets so far.
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S7's glass built is superior to OnePlus 3's aluminium chassis? LOL! This world never ceases to wonder me.
Just the camera experience would be really different, don't know about signal strength for your carrier and stuffs.

What I Love and Hate about my new OnePlus 5!

My OP5 has replaced my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge which unfortunately was dropped and shattered the front glass. It's expensive/difficult to replace the glass on these so I treated myself to a new phone. So this is what I Love and Hate about my new OnePlus 5!
Love
The Snapdraggon 835 -The phone is Fast and bang up to date in connectivity support.
Fast storage and lots of memory- More Speed
No bloatware and streamlined Android -Contributes to the speed and simplicity.
The silent/DnD slider button -No more taking my phone out and turning the display on to switch it to silent! Fantastic.
Fast responsive finger print unlocking.
Solid Home button -Sooner or later the push down home buttons on galaxies start to wear causing rocking, noises/rattles, missed clicks etc because of their frequent use. Hopefully nothing to wear out here.
The deep blacks and saturation from the AMOLED panel
3.5mm jack -Can still use my headphones without an adapter.
Battery -Amazing battery life and the DASH charge is great too.
USB C -So easy to plug in the charger in the dark now.
Gorilla Glass 5 -better drop resistance, the gorilla glass 4 on my Galaxy S7 drop failed
Glass on one side. Feels less premium in a way, but reduces the weight of the phone. This means less force when it falls and less chance of shattering the screen. However metal dents and scratches easily.
Hate
The Camera. So much hype and so much disappointment. Good on paper and for taking 'benchmark' photos. But very poor in real world phone usage. The S7 camera is WAY better. I'm so disappointed I gave it it's own thread.
Only 1080P screen. Also if the brightness is turned up I can see 'noise' on the display. Also get some weird distortions when scrolling. Viewing angle is good, but not excellent. Automatic brightness control is also hit and miss. The S7 was much better. A big downgrade on the S7 display in all areas.
Design is good. But it doesn't look as nice as say a galaxy S8
Having DRM issues, such as reduced quality Netlix streaming. I hope this gets sorted soon.
Sound is loud, but quality is average.
Not waterproof
No SD Card support. Who really wants two sim card holders? Make the other slot for an sdcard like Samsung.
Price. £450 is not a value bargain like the old versions. You can buy a Samsung S8 on Amazon for £550 now.
In a nutshell. It's a mid range phone in regards to features and design, but with high end performance. I don't think it's a bargain. I think the price is about right for what you get.

Sometimes I ask myself why do people actually upgrade from S7 or equal??
The S7/S7 edge is only one year old. I think it's also nonsense to upgrade from S7 to S8 for example.
What do people expect to get? A whole new smartphone experience? Ppl knew the specs right from the start, before they bought it. Of course a 1080p screen will be worse than a QHD.
It's not waterproof, you knew that. It has no SD-Slot, you knew that as well.
For the smoothness and the speed to exist, as well as the great batterylife, there need to be some things that can't be amazing as well for this price. And it's not even bad on this phone.
I understand disappointment, but it's mostly because people expect too much from a phone that is only 1 year younger than the one they own.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and I'm totally happy with the OP5. My gf has a S7 edge. They are both good phones. The Samsung might have a better camera, but the Android experience and smoothness is GALAXIES better with the OP5.
Sometimes ist also about people's priotities.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you'll enjoy your new device
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I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.

bamfsig45 said:
I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.
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If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.

sireniankyle said:
If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.
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Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.

bamfsig45 said:
Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.
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It is possible that he thought he could look past it, but ended up failing at it. idk. All I can say is that it has happened to me. Mostly with iPhone, but that is a whole other beast.