Now then, I've had my OP5 since Monday, and have read all the things about jelly scrolling, inverted display panels and so on. This is something different and the reason I am likely to return this phone within the 15 day period.
It's been a bit wet and dark here all week in Hull, but I wear polarised sunglasses in the sunshine and am amazed at the OP5 screen while wearing them. Have a look at the photos of the OP5 and OP3 taken on my 6P, then look at the other photo of them taken on my 6P through the lens of my sunglasses. The whites are all split on the OP5 through polarised glasses but remain perfect on the OP3 (apologies for the photo orientation).
I have serious doubts of the OP5 panel quality.
Wow... Is that related to the new gorilla glass? Or maybe a change in the panel? AMOLED effect maybe? Seems that OP is hiding many things from us.... Faulty bootloader, dirty things under the OOS hood, display issues, ...
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Now then, I've had my OP5 since Monday, and have read all the things about jelly scrolling, inverted display panels and so on. This is something different and the reason I am likely to return this phone within the 15 day period.
It's been a bit wet and dark here all week in Hull, but I wear polarised sunglasses in the sunshine and am amazed at the OP5 screen while wearing them. Have a look at the photos of the OP5 and OP3 taken on my 6P, then look at the other photo of them taken on my 6P through the lens of my sunglasses. The whites are all split on the OP5 through polarised glasses but remain perfect on the OP3 (apologies for the photo orientation).
I have serious doubts of the OP5 panel quality.
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Thats caused by the screenprotector for sure
Original screen protector on both. This also doesn't happen on my 6P with or without screen protector. Perhaps they've done something different with this one?
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I don't know, but I've never had this with an amoled screen before (HTC desire, N1, NS, Moto X (13 & 14), N6P, OP3 etc). You always get some phasing, which I expect: e.g. the Pixel C appears blank in portrait mode. Crappy TN panel PCs go very dark unless directly ahead. (All with polarised sunglasses on)
This is an issue I've never seen on an amoled display.
Wow that's strange. What kind.of crappy panel are OP using?!
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Nah, that's not the screen protector. There's a very strong rainbow effect which is especially visible when displaying white. That's really annoying (and adds up to the jelly effect...)
Damn people like cry about small things... Screens look weird when you look them via polarized glass. Example mine dont look that bad than yours. Also, you really cant compare them if both phones arent at EXACTLY SAME PLACE. Now other one is on center and other one on the left side. Sunglasses are usually littlebit curved also which can show other screem differently than other.
You should take pictures with one phone at the time and then combine pictures with photo editor. Make sure that either glasses, camera or phone are all at exact same spot.
Ps. Oneplus 3/3T has Gorilla Glass 4 and Oneplus 5 has Gorilla Glass 5 so you really cant compare them and say "OP5 panel is crap" when both phones has different glass but same panel. I'm almost sure that "issue" you found is caused by different front glass. Also you said that both has original screen protectors installed. Well that dont mean they would be same screen protectors. So to test this right you should test it without screen protectors and also with same glass, which is really hard to do
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Also to me look a small thing. Maybe for our friend is super important.. it is subjective.
I also use polarized sunglasses, and my Motorola Nexus6 has a strange fluorescent effect, but not "rainbow" effect on white.
I ll let you know in 2 weeks when I will have in my hand OP5
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Damn people like cry about small things... Screens look weird when you look them via polarized glass. Example mine dont look that bad than yours. Also, you really cant compare them if both phones arent at EXACTLY SAME PLACE. Now other one is on center and other one on the left side. Sunglasses are usually littlebit curved also which can show other screem differently than other.
You should take pictures with one phone at the time and then combine pictures with photo editor. Make sure that either glasses, camera or phone are all at exact same spot.
Ps. Oneplus 3/3T has Gorilla Glass 4 and Oneplus 5 has Gorilla Glass 5 so you really cant compare them and say "OP5 panel is crap" when both phones has different glass but same panel. I'm almost sure that "issue" you found is caused by different front glass. Also you said that both has original screen protectors installed. Well that dont mean they would be same screen protectors. So to test this right you should test it without screen protectors and also with same glass, which is really hard to do
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The difference in angle is so slight that it wouldn't make a difference. I take the point about the difference in gorilla glass and the screen protectors, but as I said I have never seen anything like this level of white splitting, on any level of gorilla glass or any other screen protectors. I can only make this comparison with the phones as they are, not in an impossible lab situation. I said serious doubts about the panel quality.
Please keep this discussion reasonable and not start with the flaming.
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The difference in angle is so slight that it wouldn't make a difference. I take the point about the difference in gorilla glass and the screen protectors, but as I said I have never seen anything like this level of white splitting, on any level of gorilla glass or any other screen protectors. I can only make this comparison with the phones as they are, not in an impossible lab situation. I said serious doubts about the panel quality.
Please keep this discussion reasonable and not start with the flaming.
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I can confirm this. With the filter of my Nikon I have same effects on OP3 and OP5 screens related by the angle of viewing. It must be screen protector related. On both devices are the original protectors from OP. No worries about that. :good:
It is just because the display is build in upside down.
Try looking at ANY Computer Screen with the Polarized Sunglasses, turn the Sunglasses and you will see the same effects or even stranger, you cant see anything on the screen because it is LCD and not AMOLED.
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maybe like a glass screen protector but for the camera, or even possibly a plastic one but it might not be as "transparent" when taking pictures.
anyone seen anything or am i going tohave to build my own?
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maybe like a glass screen protector but for the camera, or even possibly a plastic one but it might not be as "transparent" when taking pictures.
anyone seen anything or am i going tohave to build my own?
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Don't bother. Pictures will look terrible. Just take care of your phone.
i just noticed another thread on the S4 forums someone said
"Stick a piece of clear scotch tape. "
seems interesting and easy to replace/recut. i might try that first and see how image quality compares
from the posts ive seen so far, it is only luck that prevents scratches on the "sapphire" lens. as you can see in the general chat, people who have cases, people who dont put anything else in their pocket, get the same scratches as people who dont seem to care. and this is a phone i want to use for more than a year?
some of these people are 3 months in and unable to use their camera.
Brava, if you dont use your camera thats fine, but if you do, i would suggest you look at your camera lens and watch it deteriorate without any protection
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from the posts ive seen so far, it is only luck that prevents scratches on the "sapphire" lens. as you can see in the general chat, people who have cases, people who dont put anything else in their pocket, get the same scratches as people who dont seem to care. and this is a phone i want to use for more than a year?
some of these people are 3 months in and unable to use their camera.
Brava, if you dont use your camera thats fine, but if you do, i would suggest you look at your camera lens and watch it deteriorate without any protection
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camera just fine for all my previous phone no scratch nothing shiny as new, had note went to bench and everything not a single scratches, o yeh i take a lot of pictures about 5GB of photos that taken by my note
This phone has a sapphire lens, which is a very hard material, I don't think its needed.
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This phone has a sapphire lens, which is a very hard material, I don't think its needed.
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Ehh, that's what I thought. Think again http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475976
I think if you don't have a case it could be a problem.
It is a hard lens, but there will be minor, very light scratches on it, most likely it won't affect your pictures, but I was thinking this same thing tho, maybe a tiny piece of ghost armor over the camera.
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from the posts ive seen so far, it is only luck that prevents scratches on the "sapphire" lens. as you can see in the general chat, people who have cases, people who dont put anything else in their pocket, get the same scratches as people who dont seem to care. and this is a phone i want to use for more than a year?
some of these people are 3 months in and unable to use their camera.
Brava, if you dont use your camera thats fine, but if you do, i would suggest you look at your camera lens and watch it deteriorate without any protection
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People that are having this serious a problem should be contacting Lg about warranty work. Sapphire shouldn't scratch up that easy, that fast under normal use. I have watches that use sapphire and the only thing not scratched to hell is the sapphire.
Yeah... I might contact LG, but I've already had Verizon replace my phone (the original one in that thread) due to the scratches... New one began doing it as well, after the first time or two I wiped it off with the underside of my shirt. I ended up using a part of my left over zeiss pure crystal screen protector and custom cut out a small piece and put it on my camera lens... Works pretty good. Oh, it doesn't scratch nearly as easily as the lens did... I've had it on for a couple of weeks now and hardly any scratching. Check out the attached photo... May hinder photo quality some, but it's not much.
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Yeah... I might contact LG, but I've already had Verizon replace my phone (the original one in that thread) due to the scratches... New one began doing it as well, after the first time or two I wiped it off with the underside of my shirt. I ended up using a part of my left over zeiss pure crystal screen protector and custom cut out a small piece and put it on my camera lens... Works pretty good. Oh, it doesn't scratch nearly as easily as the lens did... I've had it on for a couple of weeks now and hardly any scratching. Check out the attached photo... May hinder photo quality some, but it's not much.
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It's my guess that majority of the scratches are caused by fingers, when there is a dust or debris on the lens, user mistakenly puts his/her finger on the lens trying to use the controls. I am also planning to use invisible tape on camera lens, when it is pressed against glass, it usually turns invisible, I think that might work. I can just remove and toss it when I need to use the camera, and when I am home I can just apply it again.
When I first saw LG G2 on it's release day in the store, I seriously thought those rear buttons were sliding camera cover, I thought to myself, what a great idea to protect the lens, then I realized they were buttons when I handled the phone and I could not find any buttons on the side (I initially thought there were touch sensitive sliding rocker/buttons on the side)
I took the old screen protector that was part of the packaging and cut a piece to cover the camera lens. :silly:
I haven't compared pictures, but I haven't noticed loss of quality or adverse effects for the auto-focus.
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When I first saw LG G2 on it's release day in the store, I seriously thought those rear buttons were sliding camera cover, I thought to myself, what a great idea to protect the lens, then I realized they were buttons when I handled the phone and I could not find any buttons on the side (I initially thought there were touch sensitive sliding rocker/buttons on the side)
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My old Sony Ericsson had a sliding camera cover, that thing was awesome. You never have to worry about finger prints or scratching the camera.
Not to mention it also worked as a shortcut for the camera app like the volume down button on the G2.
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I took the old screen protector that was part of the packaging and cut a piece to cover the camera lens. :silly:
I haven't compared pictures, but I haven't noticed loss of quality or adverse effects for the auto-focus.
My old Sony Ericsson had a sliding camera cover, that thing was awesome. You never have to worry about finger prints or scratching the camera.
Not to mention it also worked as a shortcut for the camera app like the volume down button on the G2.
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Brilliant idea, sir. :good: I should have kept it clean when I took it off instead of just tossing it away. I still have two more screen protectors, and a set from an old phone, I think I am going to do that! Just cut it in the shape of the lens, odd shape but it should be OK. Maybe I can find 1:1 pdf of the back of the G2 and use that as template. Hey, maybe we should start selling them, I am sure people will buy a screen protector bundle that comes with a small piece for the camera over the ones that don't!
And I totally miss those old days when things were more functional. I can see some manufacturer (mostly Apple does this) recycle this idea and pass it as the "next great innovation"
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Brilliant idea, sir. :good: I should have kept it clean when I took it off instead of just tossing it away. I still have two more screen protectors, and a set from an old phone, I think I am going to do that! Just cut it in the shape of the lens, odd shape but it should be OK. Maybe I can find 1:1 pdf of the back of the G2 and use that as template. Hey, maybe we should start selling them, I am sure people will buy a screen protector bundle that comes with a small piece for the camera over the ones that don't!
And I totally miss those old days when things were more functional. I can see some manufacturer (mostly Apple does this) recycle this idea and pass it as the "next great innovation"
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Haha, maybe. I don't know why more companies don't make protectors for the camera lenses on phones. It's probably even more important to protect them since they'll affect quality of pictures whereas a scratch (on a relative scratch proof gorilla glass) screen is more of an aesthetic annoyance.
I do miss the "mechanical feel" of the slider for my camera. It was fun just to play around and use the camera in that regards. I remember my criteria in selecting a cellphone was that it should be a flip phone. Might seem cheesy to some people nowadays but the feeling is much different maybe like how some people prefer physical keyboards on phones. Objects around us are becoming increasingly numb-feeling. I guess that's one of the reasons I really enjoy my mechanical watch. Might not have the accuracy of an atomic watch but it's pleasing to look at.
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Haha, maybe. I don't know why more companies don't make protectors for the camera lenses on phones. It's probably even more important to protect them since they'll affect quality of pictures whereas a scratch (on a relative scratch proof gorilla glass) screen is more of an aesthetic annoyance.
I do miss the "mechanical feel" of the slider for my camera. It was fun just to play around and use the camera in that regards. I remember my criteria in selecting a cellphone was that it should be a flip phone. Might seem cheesy to some people nowadays but the feeling is much different maybe like how some people prefer physical keyboards on phones. Objects around us are becoming increasingly numb-feeling. I guess that's one of the reasons I really enjoy my mechanical watch. Might not have the accuracy of an atomic watch but it's pleasing to look at.
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Rip the brand name and different colors/shades on pretty much all phones nowadays, most people can't tell one from another anymore, except Blackberry Q10. Not much originality anymore, I loved the idea of buttons on the back, and I went for it, now I find myself knocking on my wife's older LG phone, just like I found myself swiping up on all other phones when I used Z10 for 2 weeks. Originality is slowly dying not because it is a bad idea but because of all the people out there expecting things to be certain way, and to think that cellphones took this form just in last 5-6 years, I say we all got used to this way to quickly. Think about the criticism G2 received even before it was released "no way, buttons on the back, LG has lost its mind", then "Wow, I find it very easy to use and more ergonomic than trying to reach for the buttons on one sides"
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Rip the brand name and different colors/shades on pretty much all phones nowadays, most people can't tell one from another anymore, except Blackberry Q10. Not much originality anymore, I loved the idea of buttons on the back, and I went for it, now I find myself knocking on my wife's older LG phone, just like I found myself swiping up on all other phones when I used Z10 for 2 weeks. Originality is slowly dying not because it is a bad idea but because of all the people out there expecting things to be certain way, and to think that cellphones took this form just in last 5-6 years, I say we all got used to this way to quickly. Think about the criticism G2 received even before it was released "no way, buttons on the back, LG has lost its mind", then "Wow, I find it very easy to use and more ergonomic than trying to reach for the buttons on one sides"
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Yea, it's crazy how phones (smart phones anyways) basically "standardized" over the past 5 years.
When I saw the rear buttons on the G2 before it was released, I knew it would be a great location. Bought the phone without even running by a demo and it was exactly as I expected.
The button placement works well even though many people thought otherwise.
I am confused are these scratches coming from shipment or just crap in peoples pocket
Hey everyone,
I just got my Gear VR and I just finished setup. I have tried to adjust the focus on the headset but it seems no matter what I do it always has a bit of blur to it? Is this normal or should it be able to focus into a perfectly clear image? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Hey everyone,
I just got my Gear VR and I just finished setup. I have tried to adjust the focus on the headset but it seems no matter what I do it always has a bit of blur to it? Is this normal or should it be able to focus into a perfectly clear image? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Someone else had the same problem on reddit, maybe it was you? It seems that when you put the Gear VR a bit higher by adjustung the headstraps, it will come into focus, atleast that was the case with the other guy.
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Someone else had the same problem on reddit, maybe it was you? It seems that when you put the Gear VR a bit higher by adjustung the headstraps, it will come into focus, atleast that was the case with the other guy.
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No.. it wasn't me lol. I will try that as soon as I get off work. Thank you!
So playing around with it, I found that certain experiences like in tutorial just aren't very sharp.. The quality looks much better in other VR apps like Oculus Cinema.. Its still a little blurry but nothing terrible..
Do you have a screen protector on the Note?
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Do you have a screen protector on the Note?
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I have a screen protector and noticed the same thing . . . guess that is the culprit?
by screenprotector.. You mean plastic or tempered glass ?
I would say both. We might be introducing the blur because we are placing a additional layer of glass or plastic on top of the primary glass. Under normal conditions we do not see pixels right. But with Oculus Rift the ideal resolution is 16k! That's because we have the screens so close to our eyes and you're using lenses. I'm not sure if the lenses are used for magnification or if they allow us to refocus on the top layer of the screen. You might be seeing the bad quality of the protector first, then a possible inner layer of dirt or moisture followed by the actual screen. I always use the shower method to apply my protectors. Maybe there is still a layer of moisture trapped that the naked eye cannot see.
Please don't remove your expensive screen protectors and blame me if you still have a blurry effect. I do plan on removing mine because I have this nasty halo effect. That too can't be good for this application. Also make sure that all the plastic film protectors are removed. Seen this one unboxing and it appears that both sides of the lenses have those protectos applied.
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Yes I have a spigen screen protector. It's extremely clear with no halo effect. Most people can't even tell it's on however as Chrisonxda said it's possible the additional layer is causing the blur as the image passes through.
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I would say both. We might be introducing the blur because we are placing a additional layer of glass or plastic on top of the primary glass. Under normal conditions we do not see pixels right. But with Oculus Rift the ideal resolution is 16k! That's because we have the screens so close to our eyes and you're using lenses. I'm not sure if the lenses are used for magnification or if they allow us to refocus on the top layer of the screen. You might be seeing the bad quality of the protector first, then a possible inner layer of dirt or moisture followed by the actual screen. I always use the shower method to apply my protectors. Maybe there is still a layer of moisture trapped that the naked eye cannot see.
Please don't remove your expensive screen protectors and blame me if you still have a blurry effect. I do plan on removing mine because I have this nasty halo effect. That too can't be good for this application. Also make sure that all the plastic film protectors are removed. Seen this one unboxing and it appears that both sides of the lenses have those protectos applied.
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Please let us know the results if you remove the screen protector. Before I remove mine I'm going to test it on a friend's note 4 as he doesn't use a screen protector on his..
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Don’t have good news regarding screen protectors. Per the Gear VR operator’s manual page 6 of 61:
“Remove the mobile device screen protector to get clear visibility. “
Sadly I won’t be able to confirm with my own glass protector because when I went to order this morning Samsung was out of stock again. I should have ordered earlier but I was concerned with Verizon compatibility and I wanted to see more feedback from people.
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Don’t have good news regarding screen protectors. Per the Gear VR operator’s manual page 6 of 61:
“Remove the mobile device screen protector to get clear visibility. “
Sadly I won’t be able to confirm with my own glass protector because when I went to order this morning Samsung was out of stock again. I should have ordered earlier but I was concerned with Verizon compatibility and I wanted to see more feedback from people.
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I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
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I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
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I actually see this blur people are talking about and has nothing to do with the video. It's just a dirty lens. Whenever I get that smudge due to eye lashes etc, I just wipe it with the glass cloth and it's back to clear. I thought I had an issue with my eye or something lol.
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I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
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ditto. i ran the Gear VR with two different Note 4s: one with and one without a screen protector (film type). they both looked the same in terms of clarity...besides the scratches on the unprotected one. lols. Samsung is probably thinking about those who have damaged screen protectors or those crazy rubber ones that have that orange peel effect. and maybe those tempered glass ones as well since they just add onto the phone which might cause difficulty in docking the phone to the headset.
I think I figured out the blur and why it's there somtime when I swear I didn't touch the lens. Fog. (I think the weather also affects this) It's defintely fogging up. When I take the headset off, I see the fog vaporize off the lens. So maybe I should apply some anti fog.. hmm
Mine fogs up too. I wonder if the anti-fog spray for glasses will work?
well technically the gear vr is mostly the same as the oculus dk2.
i have the dk2 at home so i can confirm that its allways somehow blur and not perfectly crisp. you have a "sweet spot" at the middle and the more you look at the sides the more blurry it gets...
this is how the optical lenses work now and will only get better with better hardware.
nethertheless dont get too much distracted by it...
for best results:
- adjust the right ipd and also try to find the optimal vertical alignment
- keep the screen and the lenses clean (hopefully the lenses are not as fragile as the dk2 lenses are)
gl and have fun! :highfive:
I put some anti fog spray I use on my hockey visor worked perfectly.
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well technically the gear vr is mostly the same as the oculus dk2.
i have the dk2 at home so i can confirm that its allways somehow blur and not perfectly crisp. you have a "sweet spot" at the middle and the more you look at the sides the more blurry it gets...
this is how the optical lenses work now and will only get better with better hardware.
nethertheless dont get too much distracted by it...
for best results:
- adjust the right ipd and also try to find the optimal vertical alignment
- keep the screen and the lenses clean (hopefully the lenses are not as fragile as the dk2 lenses are)
gl and have fun! :highfive:
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Is there an ipd adjustment on the gear vr?
In preperation before my Gear VR arrives, i already ordered anti fog spray and a rocket blaster for blowing away dust particles.
http://www.amazon.com/Giottos-AA190...&qid=1418732129&sr=8-1&keywords=rocket+blower
I have the same issue
I can get each eye clear, but it has to be so precise, it's on the verge of annoying. Maybe my head/eyes are shaped weird.
Just noticed that I can visibly see the LED pixels on the screen.. Anyone else have this happen after having the phone for a bit?
It's 493ppi so seeing 1 OLED pixel seems out there even for most people. I have 20/10 vision correct with contacts and I can't see them even if I try. Maybe if I had a dead pixel I could see it, but normally I can't see anything.
My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I didn't have that issue on my first Nexus 6 but I did have a camera issue. My second one is excellent no issues so far. I had my first one for 7 weeks before I had to RMA it.
I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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That's how it is when I use Mt wife's S5 it's almost annoying because I can see them sometimes when I didn't used to. That started after having my G3 for the past 7 months
So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Yes that's correct.
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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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So are you talking about seeing pixels when the screen is on or when the screen is off?
The die of the pixel arrangement will be visible under certain angle in just the right light when the screen is off.
Also, screen protectors can cause this to be amplified for sure. It all depends on the quality of that screen protector.
This characteristic is just one of those things you have to put up with when you're dealing with resolution cheating samsung crappy pentile amoled displays. I was hoping that the QHD would be enough to overcome the pentile, but that doesn't seem to be entirely the case for some.
At least (if tmo ever decides to actually ship it) it won't be as bad as my last cheating samsung amoled... a 4" 800x480.
I figured going into this, that the display would be pretty crappy. Too big, and amoled pentile... but after suffering with non-nexus devices for a few years (last one was a "nexus zero" -- ADP1...), I just don't feel like fighting with the thing, so fact of being a nexus > crappy display.
Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.
Wow...
I was hoping to god this wasn't gonna happen again.. I hated this so much with the Note 7 -_-
It isn't bad at all when the brightness is lowered, but looks absolutely disgusting when using the phone for GPS at night.
Last thing I want is for a $1500 phone to look cheap.
Apparently this is "natural" because of the glass and how it reflects light, BUT... all they had to do was wrap the black around it to block that reflective exit alone the edges.. But they didnt.
I may just take my note 8 back over this. I couldn't stand this on my note 7
OP, you should max the brightness, show a white image, and put a credit card on top of the screen and then take a picture.
Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:
HeRe4oNeReAsoN said:
Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:
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You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-
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You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-
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After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!
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After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!
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Sorry
If it makes you feel better, its only noticeable when the brightness is at a decent level. Plus using a case will get rid of it entirely.
I'll probably whip out the microscope and apply a fine line of black paint along the edge of the glass lol.
I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?
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I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?
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It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..
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It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..
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Ahh, ok. Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. It's different than the standard LCD light bleed then.
Hopefully I won't notice it much while it's in a case.
Zero light bleed on mine.
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Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.
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A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
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So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?
Wow, this thread is like dejavu, I had to really look for it with max brightness in a dark room to find it on both my note 7's. I didn't think it was a big deal but some did. If I get the note 8 I will look for it.
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It sounds like you might have to go through more than one replacement to get one that doesn't do it.
Just for fun, I always follow the release of the new iPhone on Macrumors each year, and there's always a huge light bleed thread. I know (now) that this is something completely different than what happens with these phones.. People over there go through numerous replacements to try and get a perfect screen. Many never get one.
I will have my phone in a case from day one, so I guess that I won't see this.
Mine's good... no light bleed at all.
I am getting no light bleed at all. Turned my screen all the way up on a white screen and no light bleed.
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None on my T-Mobile variant. I put a full white image up just to be sure.
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I'm not seeing any either even with the brightness turned all the way up and various bright pictures. There's a slight change in brightness but that's to be expected with the curve but nothing like the pictures.
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So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?
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at least one guy on another forum has reported his light bleed and is getting a replacement in exchange.
So maybe some were built with more of a "gap" there than others.
The way my luck with electronic devices works, I'll definitely have it. Glad that it won't be noticeable when it's in a case. I won't even look for it, because then I'll know it's there for sure and it will bug me.
saw these guys on facebook (sponsored post) - looks interesting but i cant find any reviews of their products on youtube etc - no influences or anything!
https://youtu.be/5ZaD7FmWQS4
https://www.bare-cases.com/pages/pane-samsung
https://www.bare-cases.com/collections/screen-protectors/products/bare-pane-for-galaxy-note-8
they say its compatible with most cases as long as the lip isnt too high
anyone have any experience with them or any tempered glass they'd recommend (especially one thats compatible with the ringke fusion)
Well, looks promissing!
Looks exactly like this one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077GSJ55T?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
I'm convinced there is only 2 or 3 manufacturers and they just put the glass in different packaging.
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dschachm said:
Looks exactly like this one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077GSJ55T?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
I'm convinced there is only 2 or 3 manufacturers and they just put the glass in different packaging.
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Ugh, I just want a FULL screen protector with FULL ADHESIVE! Why is that too much to freaking ask for?!!!
Jammol said:
Ugh, I just want a FULL screen protector with FULL ADHESIVE! Why is that too much to freaking ask for?!!!
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I don't think we'll ever seen one for the Note 8.
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Zaggs tempered glass revision 2 has been on the money. I've placed this thing on twice. Once when I got it and, the second time, I removed it from my old unit after a screen burn-in replacement, and place it onto my new unit. No air bubbles and the glass feels high quality, comparable to Whitestone sans the complex installation. It sits on the screen only slightly curving to the edge, and it does sit flush without interfering with the edge tab if I choose to use it. It is quite expensive ($50) but imho, it's quite worth it after successful installation. Highly recommend it!
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Zaggs tempered glass revision 2 has been on the money. I've placed this thing on twice. Once when I got it and, the second time, I removed it from my old unit after a screen burn-in replacement, and place it onto my new unit. No air bubbles and the glass feels high quality, comparable to Whitestone sans the complex installation. It sits on the screen only slightly curving to the edge, and it does sit flush without interfering with the edge tab if I choose to use it. It is quite expensive ($50) but imho, it's quite worth it after successful installation. Highly recommend it!
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While I agree with you that it goes on nicely you didn't mention that since it doesn't cover as much screen as other protectors and also has black side bars you get a weird effect where there's screen, black bar, rest of the screen which is quite annoying.
Link575 said:
While I agree with you that it goes on nicely you didn't mention that since it doesn't cover as much screen as other protectors and also has black side bars you get a weird effect where there's screen, black bar, rest of the screen which is quite annoying.
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yes there are black borders around SP which the top and bottom part aligns with the phone borders, so no issues there. Depending on an individual's taste, the side borders may be of concern. However, I made no mention of any weird effects as a result from the blk borders and / or the edges not being fully covered because I haven't experienced any negative effects thru general use of the phone. I must also mention, that in some apps, i.e. flipboard the first letters of words that display close to the edge of the screen may be partially blocked by the SP borders. But for me that's not a problem, as i don't experience this issue with most of the apps I use on a daily basis.
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yes there are black borders around SP which the top and bottom part aligns with the phone borders, so no issues there. Depending on an individual's taste, the side borders may be of concern. However, I made no mention of any weird effects as a result from the blk borders and / or the edges not being fully covered because I haven't experienced any negative effects thru general use of the phone. I must also mention, that in some apps, i.e. flipboard the first letters of words that display close to the edge of the screen may be partially blocked by the SP borders. But for me that's not a problem, as i don't experience this issue with most of the apps I use on a daily basis.
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No I agree with you, I just thought people should know in case they're looking to purchase it. Like you said, 50 dollars is a lot for a SP especially if you didn't know the bars did that and it bothered you. I'll be keeping mine on until something better comes along, if ever.
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No I agree with you, I just thought people should know in case they're looking to purchase it. Like you said, 50 dollars is a lot for a SP especially if you didn't know the bars did that and it bothered you. I'll be keeping mine on until something better comes along, if ever.
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Agreed!
They at least have an all clear one here with no black bars if you go to the select page, still doesn't look like it goes all the way to the sides https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32852...00_0109&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.32852741886
MACHEK said:
They at least have an all clear one here with no black bars if you go to the select page, still doesn't look like it goes all the way to the sides https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32852...00_0109&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.32852741886
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Go ahead and buy it and return feedback to us.
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Limeybastard said:
Go ahead and buy it and return feedback to us.
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i have tried these, good product in terms of clarity and touch sensitivity. the issue i had was that the vertical edges would easily crack with a bit of pressure as they dont seat on the screen as well as they should.
my current solution for using these is to remove the adhesive backing and reapply with loca adhesiveand cure with uv light.
itoYo said:
i have tried these, good product in terms of clarity and touch sensitivity. the issue i had was that the vertical edges would easily crack with a bit of pressure as they dont seat on the screen as well as they should.
my current solution for using these is to remove the adhesive backing and reapply with loca adhesiveand cure with uv light.
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Ugh sounds like too much work lol
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They at least have an all clear one here with no black bars if you go to the select page, still doesn't look like it goes all the way to the sides https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32852...00_0109&spm=a2g0n.search-amp.list.32852741886
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Tested these a month ago. Cracked two working out bubbles. Glass quality is very bad. One cracked on the right side. The other on the bottom using a fingernail to work out a bubble. No chance that this is good 9h tempered glass. Opened a dispute and got both refunded. My opinion, not recommended.
Not recommended too, to narrow, covering edges with black bars completely.
http://s.aliexpress.com/rEZfMny6?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
Not recommended too, same bad glass like the one posted and cutting display on the bottom
BBSW
http://s.aliexpress.com/BNjmaqIR?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
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ok so i purchased one and it arrived yesterday
while applying it i got some dust stuck under the protector, tried to take it out but it wouldnt move
applied it anyway and its pretty good except for the air bubbles near the curved sides of the screen (and the dust particles)
the protector is really fragile too, it chipped and cracked a corner while working out the bubbles - others have complained that theirs cracked for no reason
other than that it actually feels amazing and is compatible with the ringke fusion
ive contacted support, hopefully theyll send me out a new one
I wonder why they disabled comments in their video?
What's the best between this one and Dome Glas ?
I don't like the cut around speaker - face camera ...
A real full cover for front face is the most beautiful but may be not very good for quality of face camera ???