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Hi,
I got used to Samsungs CarDock mode which allowed to charge the phone and play music through USB port directly to my car stereo (no BT,:crying: ). I used the iBolt XProDock ( here ) which is amazing.
Now I have the M8 and figured out that analog output is not on board. So I am looking for a solution:
a) A BT-receiver for my car audio, optimally charged with max 5.0 V via USB plug)
b) Any digital to analog converter (dac?), but not too much gadgets to be supplied with power and cables
c) A second earphone-cable ?
d) A software solution to get analog sound from USB?
Any suggestions?
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
Taknarosh said:
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
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Looks cool, but needs a car power outlet which I don't want to block with this gadget. Since I use a plantronics BT-heaset for calls no handsfree functionality is required. But thnx for this!
regalpimpin said:
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
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Found that already, but some people seem to have issues with that. Must check myself, thnx
CZ Eddie said:
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
charly-whiskey said:
Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
CZ Eddie said:
Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
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ok, nothing that botheres me.
I will try the BT-Solution.
Update 15.04.2014:
I bought a tiny BT-Receiver / (even with transmitter, which I don't need), here.
Works like a charme. Thnx for your advice!
Apt-x
APT-X cannot be used with just any device. In order to get full potential from apt-X you need to have AAC audio files which the HTC one m8 support and will give you much better sound then mp3. Also APT-X can only be used if the speakers support apt-X as well as the phone. If your phone supports apt-X but your speaker or stereo does not then the APT-X will not work. There are only a handful of speakers and stereos that support APT-X. But like I said APT-X supports audio at a higher bit-rate, then standard Bluetooth, and higher then a docked iPod. For good audio performance you need both a phone/player, and speaker/stereo that support APT-X on both ends, and you might want to load some songs from a CD in AAC format onto your computer to give you that CD quality sound, or buy some songs from HDtracks.com , to play using APT-X. But also the HTC one M8 should have gotten the lollipop 5.1 update which supports usb audio/host. So I would check and see if you have lollipop 5.1
Hello everyone!
So last weekend I finally received this: LINK (EBAY)
I am totally new at Android Auto, though I have had several Andrioid Phones, as well as an Android tablet. Now I have an iPhone SE - so yes, I turned to the dark side. Not important here and now.
My question is - When I had both phone and tablet with android, I remember the many many possibilities I had with rooting etc. What do I have with my Radio? Can I root it? Can it be even better?
The only negative thing I have to say, is that the sound quality via bluetooth is quite poor - especially in the higher notes. The bass however, is still awesome on bluetooth. The sound quality is only bad on bluetooth - which tells me there is something wrong with the bluetooth hardware og the bluetooth software. Very sad to find out - I listen to bluetooth music 90% of the time. That issue let me to thinking: Is there a way to fix it? Maybe a root or something?
Also - are there some must-have-apps I should know about?
Looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks.
I have noticed the same, however it is not related to Bluetooth, the BT quality is fine, the sound quality problem begins when Android Auto is activated. Try using Spotify with the standard BT connectivity. Then test the same song with the USB cable connected and using AA. The sound quality is fully degraded when using AA compared to the BT quality. I Use Viper4Android and the drop in quality is even bigger since Viper4Android doesn't catch the sound stream.
Any idea out there?
By the way, I'd rename the subject of this thread since the sound quality problem is not related to Bluetooth but with Android Auto.
Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
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Same, don't think there's a way around it.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/android-auto/1OVZA4SUG-g
Second comment on that article, has to do with digital vs analog and our built in equalizer. You'd think digital would sound better
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BT is also a digital stream and sound is excellent, even more when paired with Viper4Android. Nonetheless V4A doesn't seem to catch the digital output stream used by AA.
Maybe it's just usb? My thumb drive doesn't sound as good as my Bluetooth with the same song either.
Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
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Yea, audio is transmitted via USB, so in theory the quality should be even better since it is transmitted without the SBC compression like with BT (unless you have aptx). If your in-car has a built in equalizer i would advice to use that one
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The theory is not working in this case, most probably because we don't know the root cause of this weird and annoying issue.
Car equalizer is not working when there are missing frequencies. BT works perfectly, but when playing the same song, with the same device and app (Spotify, music player, TuneIn) the quality is severely degraded when using AA. No deep bass and no treble. Total loss of both ends of the audible spectrum while BT quality is superb (compared to the crappy AA quality)
I have tested this issue with a Chevy Malibu 2017, Chevy Impala 2017, Ford Fusion 2018, Buick regal 2017 and Hyundai Sonata 2018. Same degradation when using AA with different head units, different apps, Axon 7. I hardly believe it is a device issue, I believe it is a problem with the protocol. Are you experiencing this issue? I am using RR ROM.
Hello again
Really often I use my phone as a media player, especially in my car, connected via headphones cable. Until now all works fine with all my devices, but with the Maze Alpha the sound is just in mono (left side) - with any app. In the android settings I disabled the sound reinforcement options but nothing is changed.
I know that the speaker plays sounds just in mono, but I found no hints in reviews that this is the same for headphones. If this device generally not able to play sounds in stereo, is this a big fail for the manufacturer.
So please check my issue and give me a feedback. I'd also be happy if someone can tell my a solution for this to get real stereo sounds.
Many thanks in advance and best wishes
Dan
Headphone jack
Same issue here only one chanel
I haven't try to use it directly with large speakers though. It seems that you might need an amplifier to get the right sound despite defaulting to a stereo sound system only. The secret is to sound issue in Maze Alpha is to get quality earphones.
Hi,
I updated my P10 to Oreo yesterday and I have a big problem. Sound quality on Bluetooth headphones is veeeery low. I'm using Spotify (premium if that's matter). Anybody have this problem? Or maybe a solution.
That's gotta be disappointing! Sorry for your trouble. Do you know if your headphones have bluetooth aptx?
AFAIK, the p10 has bluetooth aptx (https://www.aptx.com/products/huawei-p10) which should result in decent sound quality when paired with aptx compatible bluetooth headphones and speakers. My own very subjective tests comparing my p10 plus vs my non-aptx tablet when paired with a Marshall Woburn speaker supports this claim but I'm still running nouget. I wonder if the aptx is still active in Oreo?
I tried to change a bluetooth codec in developer settings but it's not working so I guess my headphones supports only SBC codec :/
The issue seems to stem from audio Codecs resetting. I have similar troubles with the Mate 9 where the audio is terrible unless I go into the developer options WHILE music is playing and change the settings, then the quality gets better until either a song is paused or something else causes an interruption in the audio playback.
Seems it is a bug. It triggers itself back to SBC only no matter what headphones are connected. I have Phillips with AAC support and the worked fine before upgrade. AptX model I have is not working correctly too. So the only way now is to wait for the fix I think...
Thanks for following up to this thread, Syndirail and ylapas. Since I use bluetooth for music every day I won't be upgrading to Oreo until I know this issue is resolved.
Unexpected surprise - P10 with quite cheap Chinese QCY headphones just connected to high quality aptX audio and sounds great, while Phillips sounds like crap definitely Oreo bug in determining hardware capabilities.
ylapas said:
Unexpected surprise - P10 with quite cheap Chinese QCY headphones just connected to high quality audio and sounds great, while Phillips sounds like crap definitely Oreo bug in determining hardware capabilities.
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Proof with QCY headphones connected.
My Sony headphone with LDAC is recognized and works very well.
Seems it can be a problem with headphones which does not have aptX / aptX HD or LDAC support, but have AAC. In Android 7 it worked well, in Android 8 it is for some reason limited to SBC only and never turned on, even if supported by the headphones.
ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
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ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
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Developer options
mattrask said:
ylapas, how can I view the bluetooth stats as you did in your attachment?
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You need to disconnect blutooth and reconnect, and then turn on your equipment..
My Sony UHP-H1 plays LDac to my Stereo and ht, my Xtz Divine headphones play aptX, and my Audio Pro T3 plays SBC, but it plays SBC from Spotify premium and all codes on Poweramp stunningly great...
SBC don't need to be poor with good signal, and good Dac and speakers...
I can't verify, can someone please do tests measure and verify. Huawei says no, you must buy mate10 or mate10 plus.
I try to get confirmation from Google Android but can't reach them.
I try to contact Sweden Google today.
Please update the thread...
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I contacted my telephone company on phone.
They are on the case, waiting for confirmation on mail.
Could anyone confirm if other codecs except SBC work? (I've also found issues on the Mate9 forum)
My Sony MF-100x connect only on SBC and the sound quality is not that great (when compared with an iPhone, not sure if only the codec is to blame though .. )
From developer settings any chance is reverted as soon as the dialog closes.
paul678 said:
Could anyone confirm if other codecs except SBC work? (I've also found issues on the Mate9 forum)
My Sony MF-100x connect only on SBC and the sound quality is not that great (when compared with an iPhone, not sure if only the codec is to blame though .. )
From developer settings any chance is reverted as soon as the dialog closes.
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You must turn off blutooth before you turn on and choose LDac..,
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Forgot Huawei confirmed that aptX on P10 is working.. still waiting for confirmation on LDac...
Yes, aptX is working on my P10 (Oreo). Tested with Sony MDR XB950B1. Anyone using MDR 1000x to confirm LDAC?
I have Sony UHP-H1 bluray with LDac...
But i dont have time to test now..
I have Jabra BT320S...Not so bad BUT, remains in low quality even after playing in DEV settings... But its not that awful,i can deal with that...will try in car
Edit1...
Ive tried different earphones on my jabra bt.. surprise...the ones offering best audio quality are the one i paid 1.99 $ at Dollarama...really cheap/crappy and unknown mark ...with original settings.
The sound with original Jabra JVC HA-EB75 really sucks...gets better if i push the speaker inside my brain through the ear hahahah
Edit 2..
just found in...you know,that third drawer that we put unused stuff.....some old Samsung from S2 and Woahh...Those im gonna keep :silly:
GAMaus said:
Yes, aptX is working on my P10 (Oreo). Tested with Sony MDR XB950B1. Anyone using MDR 1000x to confirm LDAC?
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Yes, aptX working fine, just not AAC - all my not aptX equipment is pushed back to SBC only now, even if it supported AAC in version 7 and sounded great.
Hey all, have the razer 2 and have noticed the bluetooth audio quality is garbage. Ive tried different cars, different headphone etc and they all sound worse than AM radio. I though android oreo had support for AptX -HD, LDAC etc,,,,,but it seems its not active on the razer 2 ven if you open developer options...any recs???? I know i can use the dongle but that defeats the purpose of wireless headphones
thx!
I generally don't use bluetooth, as bluetooth compresses audio, giving you less quality. I had zero issues using the dongle with some decent Sennheiser earbuds, they sounded really good, but I haven't used my headphones yet. My wife has some cheap-ish (around $30) Anker brand bluetooth earbuds, and I tried them on the Razer 2 - they sounded as good as they do on other devices, I didn't notice anything distorted or out of place. You may try checking your Atmos settings, or even turn it off when using bluetooth and see if that helps.
Thx for the info I agree,I dont use Bluetooth except in the car for streaming as I'm not a big fan of Android auto, and you are right as it is compressed . But my phones sound quality over Bluetooth is very muffled and obvious. I've tinkered with the Atmos effects and it had no effect....wondering if I got a bad unit. The fact that your wife's earbuds sound the same as other phones leads me to think I gotta bad unit because it's virtually unlistenable through Bluetooth"(
It's gotta be your phone. My hammerhead Bluetooth sounded great with my Razer phone 1. But they sound amazing with my Razer phone 2. And range is greatly improved.
The Razer Phone 2 will use AAC, which is not too bad at all. I wish I could get it working with LDAC, though, for better sound with my Sony NW-ZX300 or my Audeze Mobius.
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Hey all, have the razer 2 and have noticed the bluetooth audio quality is garbage. Ive tried different cars, different headphone etc and they all sound worse than AM radio. I though android oreo had support for AptX -HD, LDAC etc,,,,,but it seems its not active on the razer 2 ven if you open developer options...any recs???? I know i can use the dongle but that defeats the purpose of wireless headphones
thx!
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I have a razer 2. There is also aptX HD: https://www.bluetoothcheck.com/d/razer-phone-2
Quite easy to get aptX HD: https://www.headphonezone.in/blogs/...te-aptx-hd-on-your-smartphone-in-5-easy-steps
No rooting.
Not having any BT quality issues here
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I have a razer 2. There is also aptX HD: https://www.bluetoothcheck.com/d/razer-phone-2
Quite easy to get aptX HD: https://www.headphonezone.in/blogs/...te-aptx-hd-on-your-smartphone-in-5-easy-steps
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That is totally inaccurate. the RP2 doesn't have aptx or aptx-HD support, even if you go into developer settings and try to force it to use aptx. I currently haven't been able to get aptx working properly, even with magisk modules.
That's correct. It's been disabled by Razer, and turning it on in Dev options does not work. You have to use the LDAC magisk module to get it to work...
As it happens, I have a HiBy WT so I can use UAT so I have a solution. Not everyone has this device tho.