Any Value in a Dedicated Android Auto Device? - Android Auto General

I have a spare phone that I was hoping to use as a dedicated Android Auto device but as I thought it through, I didn't feel there was really much to gain:
The phone doesn't have a SIM so I would have to enable the hotspot on my daily driver.
Since I'd want my daily driver to stay stopped up, I'd plug it in too.
Well if I'm doing all that anyway, I might was well just use the daily driver, right?
Is anyone else doing something similar with a spare phone?

Ironically, I went thru the same thing years ago with an older phone which was sitting around, no longer used because it was replaced with something newer and faster.
I have my workshop in the garage, and I found it useful to have the older phone unlocked and flashed with cyanogenmod to get the junk out of the system. Then I loaded up a 32GB microSD card full of music and audiobooks, so I can listen when I work on something on the radio in the garage. So it served as a mini-iPod like device, albeit a somewhat slow one. It worked out well, and then I later sold the phone on ebay.
Similar old, used phones I gave to young relatives - with extra bulky battery packs - so they could use them as small game machines. That worked okay.
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okay, got trashed on the dev side. lol

is there anyway to run complex games on the mobile platform? guess since it is not a comonplace application it does not warrent a place other than trash.
my question is... can a mobile phone handle the large files that some internet games use.
i am playing a game called EVONY, it uploads like 3 to 4 mega bits every time i sign on and i assume it is going into ram on my pc. is there any way my phone could do this?
my friend was over tonight and he has win mobile. touch pro 2, he could not connect. i could not either, but usb tether threw my laptop could.
any one.... ?
Despite the fact these "smart phones" go for the same price as desktops, no. And the only device close to having anywhere near enough internal storage for it would be that Apple phone.
And Ram wise, well that's just a big joke when I think about the g1's lack of it.
Icebergxx said:
Despite the fact these "smart phones" go for the same price as desktops, no. And the only device close to having anywhere near enough internal storage for it would be that Apple phone.
And Ram wise, well that's just a big joke when I think about the g1's lack of it.
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lol, i know. i could carry my lat top and tether it with my phone. i know it is improbable. but imposable?
Not entirely sure what you're asking.
But you can tether your 3g/edge/internet connection from your phone to your p.c. if you have root and the proper application.
As long as you have a fast 3g connection you can acess the internet and do whatever your browser allows you to on your laptop. I've been on pandora, myspace, xda, android sites, etc etc etc with tethering.
PLayed a few games but it might get a little shotty when recieving texts and such.
I think you're confusing a few things up.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evony
System requirements: ADOBE FLASH 10
That would be your problem.
Uploading 3 or 4 megabits (i.e. 500 kB) has nothing to do with "going into ram".
The phone hardware, as far as I can tell, meets the system requirements of the program you are looking at running, except maybe fitting the UI onto the screen (since the screen is very small on a phone): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Evonyscrshot.PNG
And judging by the screenshot, I would guess that the game is similar to warcraft (i.e. older version 1, 2 from the mid 90's). Not particularly complex and certainly not beyond the phone's hardware since those old versions of warcraft ran on desktop computers significantly less powerful than these phones are.
FYI: the ability of android to run this game may be approaching if adobe ever gets their fingers out of their butts and delivers what they have promised -- flash 10 on android. Apple phone will NOT EVER be able to run this game since apple has basically refused to allow adobe to do flash for ifony.
pimpeinkc said:
is there anyway to run complex games on the mobile platform? guess since it is not a comonplace application it does not warrent a place other than trash.
my question is... can a mobile phone handle the large files that some internet games use.
i am playing a game called EVONY, it uploads like 3 to 4 mega bits every time i sign on and i assume it is going into ram on my pc. is there any way my phone could do this?
my friend was over tonight and he has win mobile. touch pro 2, he could not connect. i could not either, but usb tether threw my laptop could.
any one.... ?
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Cons of a rooted NC?

I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger for a NC. Since the NC was never intended to be a full fledge tablet I'm sure there are some annoyances from you rooted users. Once you get everything setup what are the cons? I have a rooted Samsung Vibrant running ClockWork on Team Whiskey, Nero ROM. What I'm reading I don't think I will go to Froyo since it is definitely usable but I get annoyed by such things like having to turn on/off screen to fix screen lag. I will most likely just keep it rooted from stock. The reason I'm interested in it is:
Lightweight, small form factor
Great resolution
Of course price.
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
Just want to clarify, don't have a NC yet. Don't want to buy it as an ereader.
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lucifurious said:
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
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I don't know that the lack of physical back button bothers me, it has a built in gesture for back (swipe to the left on the menu bar) so it's not really a limitation, more a preference thing. The only real downside I've seen is lack of in-store features. There are some issues with the root, mainly some market issues where for some reason all of the programs don't show up. I used the NC for a couple of weeks in stock form and then decided to root, definitely worth it just for the sake of getting a browser with multi-touch enabled. However, I read a lot so that factors into how much I like it.
If you're just using it as an android tablet, it's really good. No GPS, no cameras, no 3g connection, but other than that it's fast with the best screen I've seen on a tablet and is just the right size. My phone has a 5mpx camera, 720p video and GPS and I have it on me all the time, so no need for any of that in a tablet. It also acts as a hotspot, so no need for 3g on the tablet. It's a perfect compliment to a decent smartphone.
If you love to tinker there's no cons. (and if you want a back button, Autonooter comes with Soft Keys that'll put one on the screen for you)
Despite the time it took to learn how to do it, and what to do with it afterwards, I got what I paid for and more. I love to learn and troubleshoot, so rooting this device has been a real treat.
At the moment I have a fully functional tablet that I use quite often around the house and at work. It's a convenient browser (I use Opera Mobile which has pinch zoom and slightly better page rendering than the build in browser), a quick source of the news thanks to a program included in the Autonooter kit, and a useful quick-note taking device.
I'll admit, my primary use for it is browsing, but when you root this thing, you can use any browser you want. I use Opera, but Skyfire and Dolphin HD are also good.
In addition to that, it makes a great portable movie player. The built in player supports MP4 and one other format, but if you root it, you can download Rock Player and play most commonly used video formats.
It's Youtube performance is excellent too, and there's quite a few Youtube video downloaders available in case you want to save your favorites to the SDCard.
Speaking of that, you will want to buy an SDCard. It doesn't come with one, and you might want more than the 5GB free of space you get out of the box.
All in all, it's pretty much a computer, and once you learn how to do everything to liberate it from it's shackles, there's no limit to what you can do with it.
As a tablet, it is awesome, and only getting more so. Lets be real - its GPU is the same as the Droid X, and is not the most perful on the market. Tegra 2 (and one or two others) will soundly beat it, but at a price. Cheaper T2 platforms tend (so far) to have horrible screens, poor battery life, and are large. Other devices like the Tab, just are way over priced.
I think the nook has struck an excellent ballance. It has an excellent CPU, a capable GPU, plenty of ram, and one of the best looking screens out there. I love its form factor (the bezel is one of few NON ugly ones out there), handling, and capabilities, and the price is excellent ($250).
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
If you are not planning on reading you MUST buy a memory card. Many android apps are hard coded to look in /sdcard for things and can't read or write to the internal memory on the nook. Google earth is one example. This could probably be fixed by a developer in a custom rom.
Divine_Madcat said:
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
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That was one of my main reasons for choosing it over the Archos 70. I think the fact that the NC provides such great bang for the buck and is available at retail outlets across the USA gives it the potential to have a much larger following than something like the A70.
Adding bluetooth functionality will complete this thing.
The only con I've really felt was no mic :/ there slapped in crappy 10 dollar mp3s but not a eReader for memos/notes (tho its not useful) I could see voice search for books valuable.
Obviously want it for Voip not memos, Bt will be a fix but still.
sent from a Nook Color using xda-app
Ditto to above. The lack of a Back button can be worked around, and really only comes into play while in certain apps that don't show the standard Nook status bar at the bottom. So you can't swipe. Using SoftKeys, and setup the right way, (see forum for more info on that), then you can change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys, which gives you the Back button, and also, as a bonus, a Task Switcher pops up at the same time.
The only drawback I see is that in order to have decent sized icons and text, you need to change the density of the screen. This is fine for everything except the built in Nook apps, like the Store and what-not. The reader itself is fine. It just cuts off some of the text, but it's still usable. Personally, I just use the Kindle app, anyway, and don't ever launch the Nook apps, so it's a non-issue for me.
EDIT: I also dearly want Bluetooth to work, so I can use my GPS and BT headphones. But at least there's a BT radio in the thing. Just need to get one of the wizards to get it working. Last I heard, it was working, but only to two feet. Give me 3 feet and I'll be happy. The lack of Flash is a real bummer, of course, but also to be fixed in an upcoming 2.2 release from B&N, or you could go and install 2.2 right now and boot from sd card. Apparently, it's working pretty well. And, the lack of a mic is a small bummer, but I'm also hoping a wizard will write a USB driver that will work with a webcam/mic. All do-able stuff. Just a little time needed.
As a tablet its great. It has shortcomings like others have said but you have to take into consideration that this hardware with an IPS screen for $250 is an absolute steal even considering those shortcomings.
I am a long-time Kindle user who recently got into the world of Android with my first smartphone purchase (HTC Aria). I have really fallen in love with Android, in large part due to the excellent community here at XDA. I had started looking for an Android Tablet and stumbled across all of the info about the Nook, after a week or two of research, I decided to just go for it. I figured if I bought it at Walmart, I would have at least 30 days to decide if I wanted to keep it... and even if I bricked it somehow, I don't think Walmart customer service would know the difference and would still refund my purchase. Well, I bought the Nook Wednesday morning, rooted immediately and ended up selling my Kindle Thursday night to a co-worker. This is the real deal and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an e-reader and tablet device, as long as they enjoy modifying it.
P.S. I haven't figured out why everyone feels the need to change the LCD density settings... everything looks great stock to my eye.
lucifurious said:
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
I dont care for bluetooth, gps, or webcam. It doesnt bother me that flash doesnt work. I have flash on my phone and frankly, flash just makes webite load longer and most flash is just ads. It was an ok device preroot, now its a cheap capable tablet. I use it more than my pc. The only major gripe i have is that the edges of the screen seems to not register as well as the middle. But its not a dealbreaker.
Thanks guys. Just got one and its great! I was a bit skeptical at first after seeing before the root. Good info!
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911jason said:
Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
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The issue with Ad-Hoc is that some devices can not connect to Ad-Hoc networks. They can only connect to Infrastructure mode WiFi networks.
So the problem presents itself when a rooted phone using a wireless tether app is only capable of sharing WiFi via a Ad-Hoc network (Motorola Droid). The Nook Color then can not see the Ad-Hoc network and is unable to connect.
So the Ad-Hoc WiFi fix allows the Nook Color to see and connect to Ad-Hoc networks as well as Infrastructure networks.
If you have a newer phone, like the Droid X, I believe those phones transmit WiFi via Infrastructure mode, so there is no problem connecting any device to it as all devices work with infrastructure mode.
I hope that all makes sense.
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
911jason said:
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Hardware and software limitation, actually.
Most phones don't have a wifi chip capable of creating a true infrastructure-mode access point, but that is gradually changing. One of the reasons I bought an HTC Incredible is that it can.
But you also need tethering software that can use that mode. Newer versions of Wifi Tether can, for example, but older ones can't.

Getting USB Tethering to work without a plan? A few ideas and questions

I've been playing around with VRidge a lot lately, and it's really cool - being able to play VR games on my computer and stream them to my phone is nice. I'm using the 5ghz wifi streaming method for now and it works great, but... My phone heats up a lot after 10-15 minutes. Through some testing of various non-streaming GearVR games and apps, I can say with some certainty that it's the fact I'm streaming over wifi that's causing my phone to heat up.
So knowing that, I've been trying to get tethering to work. Of course the first thing I did was just try to turn it on in my settings - but Verizon wants another $30/month for the honor, which is just absurd since I'm already paying that for 2 whole gb of bandwidth a month. So with that out the window, I've tried a few other options:
Cyanogenmod Tether
PdaNet+
A method I found here involving Network Signal Refresher
Pulling my sim card (Won't even let me try without a sim card in)
Rooting methods... Obviously can't do any of these because as far as I know, the Verizon Note 5 has yet to be rooted. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Needless to say, none of these worked... For RiftCat at least. I've submitted a feature request to utilize a tether app instead of the native tether, but some brief googling makes me think this may not be possible (The developer of a competing project mentioned something along those lines last year).
So, I have a few ideas that I wanted XDA's opinions on:
A "test sim card" - I can pick a few up for a few dollars. Will this allow me to enable usb tethering, or will it check to see if the SIM card is valid / has 5g first?
A usb-to-ethernet cable, plugged into an ethernet card on my computer and hopefully finding a way to make my phone think it's just a wifi connection. Is this even possible? I had the idea an hour ago and haven't had much time to research it.
Drilling holes into my GearVR phone cover, attaching a fan to it, and hoping it can cool my phone's CPU down.
New idea: Get a sim card from a "pay for what you use" service like Ting and turn off mobile data when I use USB tethering... Can this iteration of the Note 5 do that?
...?
On a related note, is there a more active place I can post this to? I picked this forum because it's specific to my device, but I feel like it's an issue a lot of people have.

Cannot get USB MTP to work on T-Mobile SM-G781U

Hi, I really hate to make a new thread, but I just cannot get this darn thing to connect to my PC. I had a G900A (S5) for over 4 years, rooted w/custom rom. I had/have a G935F rooted with SMan custom rom on Android 8. They both work fine (well S5 died a bit ago...LOL). I downloaded the newest Samsung USB driver, which installed fine and the G935F still works. I tried it both on my W7 Pro desktop and W10 Home laptop.
But this damn S20 will absolutely not connect (using same cables on both, except of course the S20 uses USB-C). This THING is on Android 11 (sucks to holy hell). I enabled the Developers Option and enabled USB Debugging and then changed the USB Default config from Charge Only to "Transferring files" and still NOTHING (of course I can say that it Does charge).
I have looked Everywhere. Called useless T-Mobile and they did not know. I got it on Friday and going to the store Monday. Can anyone solve this and save me a trip or do you think something is wrong with the hardware (it's brand new out of the box)?
THANKS!
does windows recognise that a phone is plugged in or not. use the original cable if you're not and swap which USB ports you try on the PC/laptop.
there is supposed to be an issue where MTP screws up large file transfers but it still recognises the phone.
samccfl99 said:
I downloaded the newest Samsung USB driver, which installed fine and the G935F still works. I tried it both on my W7 Pro desktop and W10 Home laptop.
But this damn S20 will absolutely not connect (using same cables on both, except of course the S20 uses USB-C). This THING is on Android 11 (sucks to holy hell).
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Was it v1.7.43 and did you remove 'any' old driver versions before installing -
- https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
And when plugging in the phone for the first time you may have gotten a prompt to allow access, if different/more annoying under Android 11 afaik.
And on a different but Android 11 front, can I ask what bits sucked or were different to 10 for you on this device?
b1k3rdude said:
Was it v1.7.43 and did you remove 'any' old driver versions before installing -
- https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
And when plugging in the phone for the first time you may have gotten a prompt to allow access, if different/more annoying under Android 11 afaik.
And on a different but Android 11 front, can I ask what bits sucked or were different to 10 for you on this device?
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Hey, did you mean to quote without replying..?
Hi, I said I installed the newest (that is the version) and did it before I even got the phone and my 935F worked fine. But no, I did not uninstall the old one. It knew it was there and it did it. I have updated the driver the same way in the past and both the 900A and 935F always worked.
Also I think I said what versions I had on both phones, which were android 4 + 5 on the 900A and 7 + 8 on the 935F.
It NEVER asked me Anything Anytime I plugged it in.
I could actually live with this phone (made so cheap, by the way), if I could just get into it and complete putting my files on it. Also THIS phone is draining battery a bit Because I can't root it to get rid of whatever bloatware crap is on it (any suggestions on that?).
Plus I don't like all the crazy crap it displays and does. ALSO, CAN THEY KEEP MAKING THE CLEAR BUTTON EVEN SMALLER???
Attached is a pic of my beloved S5 BEFORE GOOGLEY SCREWED UP ANDROID, THAT THEY CREATED TO BEGIN WITH...Grrrrrrrrrrr...THOSE WERE THE GOOD OLE DAYS OF REAL ANDROID...LOL.
Thanks anyway for the reply!
PS, sorry I been away from the forum for a while. Things are a bit different now! Sorry, b1k3rdude!
3mel said:
does windows recognise that a phone is plugged in or not. use the original cable if you're not and swap which USB ports you try on the PC/laptop.
there is supposed to be an issue where MTP screws up large file transfers but it still recognises the phone.
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Hi, I did try the same "extension" cables and ports that I used for the 935F, but I had a USB-C laying around for my bluetooth and used that and never thought to use the original cable that came with the box (still in the box). It Never recognized the phone ever. I will try that...If it works I am going to bang my head against the wall because I spent hours trying it and researching it and even uploaded certain files to my google drive just to get them to the new phone (I Was Determined)!!!
I will try it and edit this with the results. Thanks!!!
Son of a B*tch, that worked! The cable that came with the BT did not work, but the original one did right away. I did not know that it installs separate drivers for different phones! It installed all the drivers and the phone asked for permission and Voila! Even worked with my old USB extension cable. I never would have thought of that.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! See, when I got up I went to look to see if anyone answered before I even took my pills and etc...Now back to all the disastrous news. I am a H Andrew "victim" and feel bad for the people of LA, and of course what happened in Afghanistan. So off to the News...
Also may I ask what is so special about the cable that came with the phone as opposed to the one I used from my BT??? Thanks!
So on another note, any tips on how to get around all the crap of UNROOTED Android 11?
Also, do any of these rooting threads really work on this US version of the phone? For sure this darn BL is locked. I did find a procedure to tell. A bit complicated (for me), but now that I can get into the phone, I can surely try.
Also I miss my Viper for great sound. Anyone know how to replace it with something if I can't get this rooted? AND WHERE THE HELL IS THE HEADPHONE JACK??? LOL. Plus, do you know how long it took me to figure out how to just get a screenshot on this THING??? JEEZ!
We switched to T-Mobile from ATT and this phone cost me Only $99 over 24 months + $49 tax, while the other 3 on the family plan got their usual rotten apple (I-12's) for free plus tax. I Refuse to get one, but I am an old time programmer and can't see my way to a rotten apple...yet...LOL
Thanks, Sam in FL
Also, I must say that this 5G here actually works in spots (not in my condo though). I got over 500 Down and 49 Up near me, then got depressed when it did not do that in my condo, but I got wifi anyway and who really needs that much down anyway???
Samsung's cables designed for data transfer and flashing are not the same as off the shelf data transfer cables (unless it's made by a decent manufacturer like Anker).
for getting rid of the crap apps, look up ADB debloat threads for Samsung phones, the newer the better, one close enough like S20 or S21 will do.
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for getting rid of the crap apps, look up ADB debloat threads for Samsung phones, the newer the better, one close enough like S20 or S21 will do.
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There are some S20FE specific ones in this S20FE section.

Suddenly, the dreaded "Device is not supported" after 4 years

I have an Alpine iLX-W650 and a OnePlus 7 Pro. Android Auto has been working perfectly for well over 4 years now, even through OS upgrades (currently on Android 12).
Suddenly, about a week ago I got the "Device is not supported." message. A reboot of the phone while in the car fixed it.
Then it happened again the next day, nothing I do resolves it including a new or different cable. There was an Android update this morning and I also saw a new version of Android Auto. I did both of these hoping one would fix the issue. Nothing. Multiple reboots later, including telling Android Auto to forget me unit, still nothing.
I had my wife plug in her phone and the head unit works perfectly with Android Auto, so something with my phone changed or a setting is corrupted. I'm not sure how to get things working again.
As mentioned, I tried:
another cable (several now)
"Forgetting all cars" in the settings
Forgetting connected cars in the Head Unit.
Factory resetting the Head Unit.
Double-checking the Head Unit is the latest firmware (it is).
Deleting the AA app and clearing data and cache for it and then updating to the latest.
Deleting the AA app and clearing data and cache for it and then trying to connect to let it pull down AA.
As noted above, my wife's phone works no problem with my head unit and since thing my daughter tried her phone which works too. Clearly, something on my phone got corrupted or something to cause it to not work anymore.
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be! Upgrades and updates can and do break devices.
Once you sort that mess out disable auto updates.
For anyone that might stumble on this, I considered that maybe my phone's data port was at fault and causing issues. Otherwise, my OnePlus 7 Pro works great and still charges. Not really ready to let it go.
Since I've always wanted AA to be wireless, I ordered the AAwireless device and it works flawlessly. In fact, it is more responsive than when my phone was cabled. Wish I had done this years ago.
stevemajor said:
For anyone that might stumble on this, I considered that maybe my phone's data port was at fault and causing issues. Otherwise, my OnePlus 7 Pro works great and still charges. Not really ready to let it go.
Since I've always wanted AA to be wireless, I ordered the AAwireless device and it works flawlessly. In fact, it is more responsive than when my phone was cabled. Wish I had done this years ago.
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A port pcb failure can cause data and phone service loss at least on Samsung's.
If it happens after a firmware upgrades/update it's not a hardware failure...

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