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I open this thread because I want to share my really bad experience with Samsung Technical Support and I want to know if someone experienced the same.
I bought my Galaxy S 5 on may. Rooted the same day. All good. Suddenly on October 17 the Gps stopped working.
I tried everything from go back to stock, change modem, baseband. Nothing it was just dead.
I have two galaxy S 5 and with the app Gps test one gave me 18 satellites and the other for like an hour "no fix".
I wrote a certified mail to Samsung pec (I live in Italy, EU, certified mail count as registered mail), describing the gps fault and asking the reparation of the device ex art. 128-131 D. lgs 206/2005 (Consumer Law in Italy).
They told my to send them the device for the repair.
I handed the phone to my Samsung city point with another letter in which was described the problem.
Have passed 15 working days and a Samsung operator called me to report that my phone was lost and that this was the reason for the delay in the repair.
Three days later they called my back to say that the phone was repaired and that they would have sent me back the device.
Today I received the phone. They have do nothing, only software reset!!! It's unbelievable.
I call the technical support and they replied candidly that the phone was only resetted.
Quickly I gave back to Samsung city point the phone asking not the reparation but the replacement with one working.
At the same time I wrote a registered mail to Samsung asking for a phone replacement and a notice to comply within 15 days.
I am a lawyer and I am seriously thinking to start a lawsuit against Sammy to obtain the phone replacement.
Has anyone experienced similar situations?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english and for the long post.
Nothing quite like this but very recently my charger broke in my hands.
I rang them up to arrange a replacement they asked for me to send an email with proof of purchase, which I did. After 15 emails and 5 calls later asking for updates, they sent me my charger.... For a galaxy s3!!
The only good thing about this is when I called them up again, they sent one out straight away but they did require my proof of purchase again!
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Hi - STORY TIME!!
So when I got my phone, I was very happy. I got everyone in my family to get the same one: zenfone 2 laser.
But now I am so fed up with this company it is ridiculous.
My phone has had issues since the beginning, because everytime apps updated it shut down. And then other random times it would just die for seemingly no reason.
Over a month ago I got an RMA from ASUS.
I sent in the phone immediately, and waited a couple days until it arrived at the facility.
Finally, it arrives, and what do I find out? They gave me the wrong repair center address and they need to forward it to a different repair centre in another state. They're going to do that the next business day (which happened to be 2 days later).
6 days go by after they sent it out, and it finally arrives at the new repair center.
Now, 18 days later, the RMA site still says a repair is in progress. I have been emailing them back and forth trying to get a proper answer. They finally told me yesterday what's going on.
"we apologize for the I convenience this issue has caused you, the repair facility have found an issue with your motherboard that is not common and have to contact our headquarter in regard with this issue. They are currently waiting for a man advise that will cause the delay of the repairs for your device."
Are you kidding me? Basically the motherboard is ****ed and you don't want to just replace the phone like you should be doing? And 18 days to contact headquarters and find out what to do?! Is that a joke?
I'm usually pretty chill and calm and nice about these situations, but this is ridiculous. It's been over a month since I saw my phone.
Has anyone had a similar experience? What did you do about it?
Am I being unreasonable here? I just don't see how this kind of customer service is acceptable.
I just had an awful experience with them myself. Asus literally sent the wrong update OTA to my ZE551KL. I kept my device 100% vanilla, didn't muck around with root, etc. and still ended up in a bootloop. I tried to install the latest firmware from their website to get it working, and yet it told me the version I had was newer. When I contacted them, they told me I'd have to send it in.
So I was literally forced to install a new recovery and unlock it just to get my device working again. Asus makes great hardware, but unless you have one of their high-end laptops (which I do), the customer service for everything else is terrible. PM me if you want, I have some corporate emails I used to get some problems rectified a few years back.
a week after the purchase i've had a problem with the back cover, it was completely covered in stains, so i've contacted asus support and they made me ship the complete phone to rma after a tedious procedure on the site and after ask a thousand times the same things.
After 10 days the phone came back with a new cover, but...
the warranty seal on the screws was ripped, so no more warranty
the proximity sensor was not working
the gps was not working
The support didn't responded me anymore, and also they have denied the zencare warranty saying that the back cover is not an hardware component
asus support is made by a bunch of clowns and the quality of their products is inexistent.
I've resolved my problem buying from ebay a phone with broken screen and using it to replace the mainboard, but guess what? on my phone there was some parts missing...
I'll never buy an asus product again in my life, same as my family and my friends.
I had a positive experience while dealing with Asus Service Centre, I had completely bricked my phone while trying to flash a pre-rooted firmware. So I handed over the phone directly to the service centre and I got back the phone after 1 day. Do one thing send a direct email to the zonal head of your area and inform him/her about your predicament, I'm sure something good will come out.
I think.... u get a fault phone.... when u buy a phone....
And electronice device when u repair then if u have 1 error after u can have an error different...
Asus zenfone 2 laser
valkyre said:
i think.... U get a fault phone.... When u buy a phone....
And electronice device when u repair then if u have 1 error after u can have an error different...
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guys if you really want to use a nice zenfone..switch to cm13..coz it never gets messed up...i personally feel awesome after flashing cm13 and custom kernals.. AND HAVING ALL FACILITIES OF A ROOTED DEVICE..
I have a feeling they will sell very few of their premium priced ZF3's to anyone who has had experience with their customer service in the past.
When you could get a ZTE Axon 7 with a really good 2 year warranty for 400 USD, Asus doesn't have much to offer in my mind. They STILL haven't released MM for the first and most expensive Zenfone 2 models with Intel hardware.
Hi, all!
I've never thought I will write this story on some forum but now I'm totally clueless what should I do...
I was a happy owner of Z1 Compact with root and Android 4.1.1. After one year the headphone connector stopped working.
Official repair gave me a Z3 Compact in return. Cool!
After 5 months the jack connector started pausing the music, later one channel stopped working. Phone was rooted and running 4.1.1 same as previous. I've sent it to official repair centre and it returned 2 days later. Broken. Touch screen is not registering touch, image on the screen sometimes flickers and shifts to 3 different colors (broken motherboard?).
Oh, and headphone jack is still broken.
After contacting Sony and repair centre I was told that my warranty has ben canceled because of unauthorized changes in phone (root? they never told me).
I've exchanged emails for over two months and nothing. I've lost my phone.
What do you think, what should I do? I'm afraid that if I go to court I will be smashed to pieces by their lawyers and it will cost me much more than a new phone...
milu_ said:
Hi, all!
I've never thought I will write this story on some forum but now I'm totally clueless what should I do...
I was a happy owner of Z1 Compact with root and Android 4.1.1. After one year the headphone connector stopped working.
Official repair gave me a Z3 Compact in return. Cool!
After 5 months the jack connector started pausing the music, later one channel stopped working. Phone was rooted and running 4.1.1 same as previous. I've sent it to official repair centre and it returned 2 days later. Broken. Touch screen is not registering touch, image on the screen sometimes flickers and shifts to 3 different colors (broken motherboard?).
Oh, and headphone jack is still broken.
After contacting Sony and repair centre I was told that my warranty has ben canceled because of unauthorized changes in phone (root? they never told me).
I've exchanged emails for over two months and nothing. I've lost my phone.
What do you think, what should I do? I'm afraid that if I go to court I will be smashed to pieces by their lawyers and it will cost me much more than a new phone...
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Sorry, I know it's not very helpful, but I would recommend always removing root and restoring to stock firmware before sending any device in for warranty work. I hope someone can help, but I would say that Sony now have your IMEI blacklisted and you're scuppered.
Maybe try with the shipping company and see if it's insured up to a certain amount perhaps?
Cadabena said:
Sorry, I know it's not very helpful, but I would recommend always removing root and restoring to stock firmware
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I have thought about it but decided against - based on two previous cases when they didn't care about the root...
Hi @milu_ , here is direct from sony:
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Is the repair will cost?
If the problem is covered by warranty, repairs will be free.
If the problem is not covered under warranty or if the device is out of warranty, you will get a quote for the cost of repair. If you do not want to pay for the repair, we will return the device at a cost of 28.58 EUR. The cost includes the exam fee, shipping and administration.
After selecting the device can access information about the warranty and some price indications repair out of warranty.
So basicley , ask Sony to send you the phone as it is !.. You only be charge of 28 euros for check the phone and shipment !
Then remove the root and send it back
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Hi @milu_
So basicley , ask Sony to send you the phone as it is !.. You only be charge of 28 euros for check the phone and shipment !
Then remove the root and send it back
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Hi, thanks for input The problem is that I have received the phone back. They didn't ask me for any money for shipment or repairs. They've just sent it back and canceled my warranty.
I've asked them why they didn't ask me for money for the repair. They didn't mention anything that would resemble a answer to that question in around 20 emails we exchanged.
I've asked them if I could send the phone to them for repairs that I would pay for. They replied that my warranty is no longer valid. One woman from Sony (to whom i talked on the phone) said something along the lines "sorry but now you have no business with Sony" and the case is closed.
i always re-flash my Z3 compact before i send it to repair
Try getting legal or consumer advice from wherever deals with this kind of thing in your country.
Here in the UK although they could try and cancel the warranty, it doesn't remove automatic consumer protections under law. Sony would have to prove rooting caused the defect, otherwise they are still liable for the repair even without warranty.
But this would have to be done all in court, and most will not want to bother (even though county court is actually pretty cheap here and easy to do).
I purchased an LG G4 H811 on EBAY for $129. The phone had a manufacturing date of 2015 June, I believe.
I received the phone, charged it overnight, and turned it on. The phone went through setup and asked for my GMail and password. After connecting to my wireless router, I allowed the phone to update/install all of my apps.
The phone worked GREAT! Just like my G3 only snappier......About two hours later, I left my home and walked about two miles to a local drugstore. I called a friend to tell him about my phone and how nice it felt and performed. I noticed the phone felt hot, but I was outside at noon so I thought nothing of it. I got home and nothing was responding so I pulled the battery. Upon booting, the phone BOOTLOOPED! Crap........
I pulled the battery again. The phone booted normally this time but ran slowly and locked up again, HOT!. Now the phone would never finish booting. Since I bought the phone from an EBAY member (STORE FRONT), I was certain it was refurbished. I called LG, got an RMA number and sent it in. The company received the phone and later responded that I would have to pay for the repair. The repair would cost $79. I called to pay the money because I thought I wanted the phone working once and for all, BOOTLOOPFREE...
A representative said they had decided to fix the phone free of charge under an extended warranty. WOW!! I never asked for this to be done, but the representative I talked to said it would be no problem but it would take a few days for the repair to be done and that I would receive a tracking number. How cool is this? I did not push, cry, scream or threaten. LG simply volunteered to fix the phone free after initially wanting money to do so. Perhaps some of you will have the same luck with your phones. Mine was clearly out of the one year warranty and I do not know if the phone was refurbished or not. All I know is that LG volunteered to do the repair THIS WEEK (April 27-May4) without any argument or request from me.
Good luck.........
you aren't the exception. I too had my phone repaired for free. And as far as im aware, lg has been doing this for the g4 for the past year or so.
both out of warranty.?
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both out of warranty.?
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I bought mine from ebay in early 2016. It bootlooped in December 2016 and i got it fixed in late january.
jmacguire said:
I purchased an LG G4 H811 on EBAY for $129. The phone had a manufacturing date of 2015 June, I believe.
I received the phone, charged it overnight, and turned it on. The phone went through setup and asked for my GMail and password. After connecting to my wireless router, I allowed the phone to update/install all of my apps.
The phone worked GREAT! Just like my G3 only snappier......About two hours later, I left my home and walked about two miles to a local drugstore. I called a friend to tell him about my phone and how nice it felt and performed. I noticed the phone felt hot, but I was outside at noon so I thought nothing of it. I got home and nothing was responding so I pulled the battery. Upon booting, the phone BOOTLOOPED! Crap........
I pulled the battery again. The phone booted normally this time but ran slowly and locked up again, HOT!. Now the phone would never finish booting. Since I bought the phone from an EBAY member (STORE FRONT), I was certain it was refurbished. I called LG, got an RMA number and sent it in. The company received the phone and later responded that I would have to pay for the repair. The repair would cost $79. I called to pay the money because I thought I wanted the phone working once and for all, BOOTLOOPFREE...
A representative said they had decided to fix the phone free of charge under an extended warranty. WOW!! I never asked for this to be done, but the representative I talked to said it would be no problem but it would take a few days for the repair to be done and that I would receive a tracking number. How cool is this? I did not push, cry, scream or threaten. LG simply volunteered to fix the phone free after initially wanting money to do so. Perhaps some of you will have the same luck with your phones. Mine was clearly out of the one year warranty and I do not know if the phone was refurbished or not. All I know is that LG volunteered to do the repair THIS WEEK (April 27-May4) without any argument or request from me.
Good luck.........
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Was your data preserved after repair? And when you called what information do they ask after you tell them your having trouble with a LG G4 stuck in bootloop?
Did it have the same manufacture date when it was returned? Just wondering if they replaced the entire motherboard or just fixed it.
The one I bought on ebay was a 602 (February 2016) model. Rather than buying from a high-volume clearing house that couldn't be bothered, I bought from a private seller who volunteered the manufacture date. My brother has a 507 model he's still making payments on through T-Mobile. Hopefully LG's warranty extension for this issue will last until the bootloop bites him.
They repaired my wife's phone no questions asked. Didn't even need the proof of purchase. We bought it the month it was released so it was way out of warranty. Free shipping and everything. Took about a week.
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They repaired my wife's phone no questions asked. Didn't even need the proof of purchase. We bought it the month it was released so it was way out of warranty. Free shipping and everything. Took about a week.
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Recently? And all data was saved?
Jaramirez said:
Recently? And all data was saved?
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Yes, about 3 weeks ago they did it. It was totally wiped. I set it up all through LG web chat. All I sent in was the phone with no backing, no SD card no Sim chip. They sent it back with a new board and wiped.
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Yes, about 3 weeks ago they did it. It was totally wiped. I set it up all through LG web chat. All I sent in was the phone with no backing, no SD card no Sim chip. They sent it back with a new board and wiped.
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Same mine is going out today also did everything through chat. I wonder if the new board is revised and won't cause the same issue anymore. Yeah figured they wipe everything because of privacy concerns.
This is the email I got from LG saying that the diagnostic showed that the phone was not charging with the cable... Wth that's not what I sent it in for. Mine was stuck boot looping so now I'm curious to know what you guys got for an email and what the diagnostics showed.
Apparently it's on it's way back to me I just hope that they fixed the boot loop too if not I'm going to be super ticked off!
So it appears as it may just be general terms used on emails but I got final email saying that the board was indeed swapped out as part of the repair so what a relief... Still wonder if the "new" boards are any better than the ones on the phone already. Hmm only time will tell.
My G4 is supposed to be here on Wednesday, in which they also told me they had to swap out the board. Not surprising since it went from bootlooping to not even turning on, which means all my data was lost. Makes me glad that pictures can be saved to SD at least. After trying to get it to boot to make a backup by using the freezer trick, it just decided to give up the ghost.
Props to LG though, since I made an RMA 2 months ago and only recently had the means to send it back. Turnaround time was quick too; I was expecting at least a month. I've been using a ZTE ZMax as a backup and while not awful, I wouldn't mind having my G4 back.
I plan on throttling the CPU this time so it doesn't get too hot, unless someone can tell me they fixed the issue and there's nothing to worry about now.
When you folks get your "new" boards back, make sure to run that LG Info app on the Play Market and show a screenshot of the info it provides including the motherboard date - I'm interested to see what that shows and not what might be printed on the actual board aka the silk-screening. I know they can change that info without many hassles with the hardware they have just like they can reprogram an old or new board with the same IMEI anytime they want so, I'm pretty curious to see what these new(er) boards are showing for info/revisions/etc.
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When you folks get your "new" boards back, make sure to run that LG Info app on the Play Market and show a screenshot of the info it provides including the motherboard date - I'm interested to see what that shows and not what might be printed on the actual board aka the silk-screening. I know they can change that info without many hassles with the hardware they have just like they can reprogram an old or new board with the same IMEI anytime they want so, I'm pretty curious to see what these new(er) boards are showing for info/revisions/etc.
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1) LG repaired my H811 in January. It was returned to me with data wiped *and* the IMEI and date of manufacture *did not* change.
2) There has only ever been the one revision 1.0 for the H811.
Some tips: I purchased a "Certified Refurbished" phone off Swappa in February of last year with a 505 serial number. The phone bootlooped in January, within the year of warranty. At least so far as the G4 is concerned LG has been providing warranty service under two circumstances: 1) If the date of the repair request in within 15 months of the serial number date, they are not requiring a receipt and they have fixed phones for free purchased from Swappa and Ebay or 2) if the date of repair is more than 15 months from the serial number date they will request a receipt if you initiate the repair online. If your receipt has any indication that the phone is used or refurbished they will not do the repair for free. In that instance, you should avoid providing a receipt. Many people have had their phones repaired without a receipt but if you are beyond the 15 months I'm not sure how you avoid that. My guess is that if you provide a Paypal receipt from Ebay, they will have no sure way of knowing whether or not the phone was purchased used and they don't ask. If you provide a screen shot of your Swappa sale, it may very well indicate the phone was used and they will charge for the repair.
So far my phone has worked perfectly. I did not mind paying the $79. I bought the phone knowing there was every chance it would bootloop. I like LG products when they work.
PS - About six months after LG repaired the phone they called me to say that it had been a mistake to charge me. They sent me a check for the entire amount. Yay!
I've had four G4 devices bootloop and been repaired without issues, all of them 505 models, all 4 of them within the past 7 months (so they're all outside the 15 month extended period), and not once has the 505 serial number been called into the situation at all - what matters is the date of actual purchase for a warranty claims.
AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon were still selling the G4 through February of this year (2017) so, all one has to do (with any carrier actually) is tell LG you bought the device in late 2016 and that's that, instant warranty coverage and they won't even hassle you for a receipt - at least they haven't in my experience of having G4's repaired by initiating the RMA using the online chat support.
The G4 is known to be defective, period, and as far as I'm concerned that makes every single one of them ever manufactured to be valid for a warranty claim and I don't give a damn about dates on a calendar or the first three digits of a serial number.
My G4 arrived today, but it's currently at home. I'll edit this post when I bring it with me tomorrow to get set up and rooted and nougated and give you the info you want.
The app and silkscreen match. It says 9/2015 as manufacture date.
Guess LG is scared of the class action lawsuit against then for this problem. So now they warranty anybody I guess. This won't stop the lawsuit though.
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Hello Folks,
I just wanted to add and make an update to this discussion
I got my phone of craiglist brand new back in Oct 2015. I had the issue of running extremely hot but never bootlooped for me until June of 2017, it just went dead and will not restart. Its the t mobile version. I googled to find a fix and read about other user experiences. I called LG and I made up a date of purchase to Oct 2016 and was able to get a rma from lg. I sent it in on June 6th and got it back 10 days later.
They claim in their repair info that they changed the mother board.
Well the phone now had additional issues such as
1) Will turn off and restart 5 times in 6 days
2) Will drop saved bluettooth connection
3) Running google map will cause to run hot
4) Using google map, pandora and bluetooth will cause it to restart and run hot
So in my opinion changing mother board does not fix the issue and with the replacement, what they are doing it is forcing the phone to restart when it gets hot based on my experience.
I sent the phone back and listed the various issues after experience 8 days of frustration since repair. Its been with them now for past 3 days and still under diagnostic and I am waiting to get it back.....
Based on what I read on this thread, wondering if anyone has a link to class action lawsuit that we can join? and for those who had their phone fixed/repaired...how is it running since and what carrier you are on?
Thanks
Update - I called LG after they received the phone last wednesday and it was sitting under diagnostic status. I asked the CS Rep when I will expect to get back. He looked up the same information that I saw on the website line to RMA. He then I guess sent a request for information and hour later I get a call from LG asking me what issues I am having as they did not find anything wrong with GPS, Bluetooth , I reminded them of my list and asked them to run bluetooth, gps and pandora at the same time and watch the phone heat up and shut down....he then thanked me and checked the status this afternoon and it moved a notch to in repair.......
Saga continues
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet, but didn't find it in a forum search. There is a class action lawsuit that has been filed regarding the Note 4 eMMC failure. Here's the link for more info and to inquire about your claim:
http://www.classlawdc.com/2017/04/25/investigation-samsung-galaxy-note-4-mmc_read-failed-defect/
I posted that in the eMMC Read Fail topic about a month ago but for sure it needs to be out in the open like this! Its good to note that at the moment its only being looked into by these Lawyers in the US. I contacted them but they said they were not working with anyone in Canada at the moment, So I'm SOL for this
I live in Canada as well and I have filed an official complaint with the BBB Better Business Bureau against Samsung Electronics Canada. If you are interested in following the same approach make sure you file a complaint not a review because you can't do both, and a complaint if accepted by the BBB is forwarded to Samsung Electronics Canada from the BBB on your behalf to seek a resolution. Samsung only after being contacted by the BBB is now trying to work out a resolution with me to fix my Note 4 but I have been asking Samsung at many different levels and occasions to do that with no success only being quoted "Out of Warranty Policy". At least now they are trying to resolve my problem. It shouldn't have taken this much time and frustration as it has since I have been without a working Note 4 since the day in mid May when an OTA android update issued from my carrier triggered an instant unrecoverable hardware malfunction in my phone. As well I also sent a note to CBC Marketplace informing them of a possible story concerning Note 4 owners having this problem and letting them know that there was a lawsuit launched in the US concerning the very same issue and wondering if they could help inform other Canadians and provide awareness of the issue so ALL Canadian Note 4 owners with problem-ed devices could be heard so loudly that Samsung Electronics Canada would listen. I encourage any other Canadian Note 4 owners to do the same. The Galaxy Note 4 when it was working was truly a remarkable device and it is sad that it died way too soon.
But this issue plagues the Note 2 as well. Though I reckon that model is a bit older. I wonder how long my phone will last, I already have random reboots and the sound sometimes stutters if I play music with Spotify (SM-n910c.) GPS can be also spotty from time to time.
Quality 700$+ phone.
Canada
Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
how do i know if this will affect my Note 4? or does it affect all note 4? My phone was made and pruchased in 2017 so i still have warranty.
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/22154208/BETURE_et_al_v_SAMSUNG_ELECTRONICS_AMERICA
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My N910F has unfortunately developed all the signs and symptoms of the widely reported of eMMC failure a couple of weeks ago. As it is still under Samsung's UK 2 year warranty, my faulty phone to be picked up and sent for inspection to one of their approved repair centres (A NOVO) . Subsequently, the phone back was sent back quickly to me unrepaired and with an attached (standard looking template) letter stating that your engineer has tested my device and found that it is not working because "it has been subjected to SEVERE physical damage internally" and that physical damage is not covered by the manufacturer's warranty.
As I am 100% satisfied that my phone is in pristine physical condition and has been very well looked after with 2 covering cases all the time as well as a screen protector and has never been subjected to drops, liquid exposure or any other physical damage, I have asked Samsung to send me the detailed engineer report as to the nature of the fault found. I am intending on getting an independent assessment of the phone and will aim to produce an independent report on the fault with a view on taking this further with trading standards or other consumer protection agencies. Samsung have been extremely evasive and very uncooperative and have asked me to contact the service centre directly to discuss the issue with their 'engineer'. I cannot in reality understand how this would help resolve my problem as their engineers will very likey just perpetuate the same lies that they had come up with previously in their letter to me.
I will try and get in touch with the service centre and see what they would come up with but I am not holding much hope and was looking to see if anyone who might have been in a similar position might have any suggestions as how to proceed with trying to get Samsung to take responsibility. Needles to say, no more Samsung for me in any way in the future.
lewis.james.750983 said:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/22154208/BETURE_et_al_v_SAMSUNG_ELECTRONICS_AMERICA
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Status for dummies update? I can't find a place toto buy brand new motherboards anywhere and used ones are $50 with no guarantees if they're not going to have the same issue...all while I'm stuck using my slowass Note 2 and refuse to goto a 5 or higher since they don't have removable batteries.
Samsung keeps letting innocent customers down with its faulty hardware...
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Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
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I did eventually get an offer via email routed through the BBB from Samsung Canada and they offered a one-time out of warranty repair for my device. (Don't get too excited there's more to the story.) I repeatedly being very polite asked them to contact me directly by phone because I had some concerns about there offer and all I asked was for a phone conversation for the "Senior Computer Service for Canada Rep" to reassure me that my device would be repaired without cost to me but they would never even consider my request and simply reply back with an abrupt somewhat ignorant responses like I was asking for something like the moon. Long story short I had a slight sign of Liquid Damage on my devices LD sticker and I was being incredibly honest that this had occurred over a several month period having to chill my device in the freezer on a regular basis to get it to boot this caused condensation which was shown on one corner of the LD sticker. This would not have happened if Samsung Canada had offered the repair 4 months prior when I initially started having problems with the device. So through no fault of my own trying to use a failing product Samsung Canada found a way to WEASEL out by using my own jerry-rigged hardship with their faulty hardware against me. If I had sent my phone into an authorized repair center and they found LD on my phone I would have had to pay for shipping costs to and from the center as well as an assessment fee and my device would be held ransom until I paid up. Goodness knows how much that would have cost me. I will hang on to my busted device in case the class action in the US is won and might extend therefore into Canada. I could even sell my Note 4 on eBay for parts because everything else besides the motherboard is absolutely pristine.
Samsung Canada had a perfect chance to help a polite loyal customer but they chose not to. I have had the same sort of things happen with Apple products in the past and "Oh Boy" did they treat me differently, with dignity and respect and they went out of their way to help me but Samsung Canada did the exact opposite. I think this is done because they know its a genuine hardware defect and if they help their customers out it would be the same as admitting they are guilty of selling poorly designed products and then be on the hook a open up a large amount of liability for the company.
Either way though us poor customers who have been burned by this company will not simply lie down and be quiet the internet is a great place to expose companies when they screw up a product and leave customers hanging.
I hope someone else has better luck dealing with Samsung than I did. The strange thing is for a brief moment when they first said they would fix my device I actually thought they were going to come thru but the end result stung much more when they didn't. Samsung Canada you blew it!!!!!!
Aiadi said:
My N910F has unfortunately developed all the signs and symptoms of the widely reported of eMMC failure a couple of weeks ago. As it is still under Samsung's UK 2 year warranty, my faulty phone to be picked up and sent for inspection to one of their approved repair centres (A NOVO) . Subsequently, the phone back was sent back quickly to me unrepaired and with an attached (standard looking template) letter stating that your engineer has tested my device and found that it is not working because "it has been subjected to SEVERE physical damage internally" and that physical damage is not covered by the manufacturer's warranty.
As I am 100% satisfied that my phone is in pristine physical condition and has been very well looked after with 2 covering cases all the time as well as a screen protector and has never been subjected to drops, liquid exposure or any other physical damage, I have asked Samsung to send me the detailed engineer report as to the nature of the fault found. I am intending on getting an independent assessment of the phone and will aim to produce an independent report on the fault with a view on taking this further with trading standards or other consumer protection agencies. Samsung have been extremely evasive and very uncooperative and have asked me to contact the service centre directly to discuss the issue with their 'engineer'. I cannot in reality understand how this would help resolve my problem as their engineers will very likey just perpetuate the same lies that they had come up with previously in their letter to me.
I will try and get in touch with the service centre and see what they would come up with but I am not holding much hope and was looking to see if anyone who might have been in a similar position might have any suggestions as how to proceed with trying to get Samsung to take responsibility. Needles to say, no more Samsung for me in any way in the future.
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An update on my situation: After all the hassle that I have had from Samsung and their customer service, I contacted Amazon UK from whom I purchased the phone. They have very kindly offered to take my phone for repair through their approved repair centre which has managed to identify the fault with the printed circuit board and replaced the faulty circuit board with the phone returned to me today in full working order again and without any charges incurred by myself. Needless to say "Shamesung" offered no explanation as to how Amazon's repair centre has been able to do what their own engineers could not manage and could not explain the lies on their engineer's report about my phone being subjected to severe physical/liquid damage when Amazon's report clearly identified motherboard failure and replacement.
I cannot praise Amazon highly enough for the steps they have taken to solve my problem and although I am happy to have my phone back, I have decided not to purchase any other product manufactured by Shamesung whatsoever and will do my best to dissuade anyone I know from making the same mistake.
immabum said:
Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
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Just wanted to comment, that it was a pain in the ass, but I did report through the BBB in Canada -and I got the repair done for free. In my complaint to the BBB, I mentioned the fact that it wasn't an isolated issue and made reference to the class action law suit in the US. Samsung asked for a lot of documentation, had my phone at one of their stores and refused to ship it to their service center. Then they cancelled the repair offer because of it sitting at THEIR own store, the one I paid a $35 shipping fee. Their customer service guy Robert emailed me saying that he would take care of it, but in the end didn't and stopped replying to my emails. I sent in my phone anyways seeing as it was a lemon. 3 months after this process was started, I finally got my phone back -fixed. I ended up giving it to my dad anyways *he had no ideas the pain I went through haha* Hope you guys get your repairs done for free as well!
Aiadi
Good you got it sorted. I just became aware of this problem, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It's worth for UK members to keep in mind the "Fit for purpose clause" that is still valid if the device is out of warranty. An extract below:
"Six months or more
If a fault develops after the first six months, the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time of delivery.
In practice, this may require some form of expert report, opinion or evidence of similar problems across the product range.
Find out more about how to return a faulty item and claim a refund, repair or replacement from a retailer.
You have six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland.
This doesn't mean that a product has to last six years - just that you have this length of time in which to make a claim if a retailer refuses to repair or replace a faulty product. "
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
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Aiadi
Good you got it sorted. I just became aware of this problem, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It's worth for UK members to keep in mind the "Fit for purpose clause" that is still valid if the device is out of warranty. An extract below:
"Six months or more
If a fault develops after the first six months, the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time of delivery.
In practice, this may require some form of expert report, opinion or evidence of similar problems across the product range.
Find out more about how to return a faulty item and claim a refund, repair or replacement from a retailer.
You have six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland.
This doesn't mean that a product has to last six years - just that you have this length of time in which to make a claim if a retailer refuses to repair or replace a faulty product. "
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
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Many thanks indeed Wadadli. I know there is quite a bit of customer protection but the difficulty was to establish what the fault was with the phone with the situation being "my word against Samsung's". I hope no one else falls into this.
wkustu said:
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet, but didn't find it in a forum search. There is a class action lawsuit that has been filed regarding the Note 4 eMMC failure. Here's the link for more info and to inquire about your claim:
http://www.classlawdc.com/2017/04/25/investigation-samsung-galaxy-note-4-mmc_read-failed-defect/
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I contacted this Law Firm mentioning I am having same issue and they asked me if I can submit the details using below form. You can add this to thread if anyone else wants to contact them.
https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=M1Awu4pX0ky56HfvNeJmB2eE_TkEyrJIjTBCKPN74zBUOEdNSVRDNkhXRFpTNzBRTTNMWkM5SUtNMi4u
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My AT&T Note 4 first failed in Jan 2017 after Security Patch OTA update and I started getting eMMC Read Failed errors, frequent reboots etc. I contacted Samsung but they gave the same warranty BS. After several back on forth on twitter they agreed to have a look at it for free and provide quote with repair. I sent in the device and I never got contacted by them and device was returned to me after a weeks time with a letter showing screen issue and replacement charge of $70. I raised this with them saying I never got call and again they asked me to send the device back and this was repeated two more times. Fourth time I called them and they agreed to repair it for free. I also sent email to Samsung President Office (did receive call back from them). This time they replaced PBA, Scratched screen and body. Finally I have my Note 4 working without any issues but I lost about an year. Glad I had a backup device.
Vaibhavpbhosale said:
I contacted this Law Firm mentioning I am having same issue and they asked me if I can submit the details using below form. You can add this to thread if anyone else wants to contact them.
https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=M1Awu4pX0ky56HfvNeJmB2eE_TkEyrJIjTBCKPN74zBUOEdNSVRDNkhXRFpTNzBRTTNMWkM5SUtNMi4u
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My AT&T Note 4 first failed in Jan 2017 after Security Patch OTA update and I started getting eMMC Read Failed errors, frequent reboots etc. I contacted Samsung but they gave the same warranty BS. After several back on forth on twitter they agreed to have a look at it for free and provide quote with repair. I sent in the device and I never got contacted by them and device was returned to me after a weeks time with a letter showing screen issue and replacement charge of $70. I raised this with them saying I never got call and again they asked me to send the device back and this was repeated two more times. Fourth time I called them and they agreed to repair it for free. I also sent email to Samsung President Office (did receive call back from them). This time they replaced PBA, Scratched screen and body. Finally I have my Note 4 working without any issues but I lost about an year. Glad I had a backup device.
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Care to share Samsung CEO's email with us as I would like to email them a piece of my mind?
Sure here u go Officeofpresident (at) sea dot samsung dot com
Vaibhavpbhosale said:
Sure here u go Officeofpresident (at) sea dot samsung dot com
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Many thanks indeed. Email sent.....
Aiadi said:
Many thanks indeed. Email sent.....
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Any answer?
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Qualcomm s805 so hot when run, easy die nand like lg g4. Exynos version is better.