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[Q] Buying this phone in Europe

Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions

Radixtrator said:
Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions
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Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.

floepie said:
Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.
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Its still 580€...

That's full price of the phone...my att model 16gb was $529 I believe. My wife's new iPhone was freaking $850...Nuts

Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?

piskr said:
Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?
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Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version

Radixtrator said:
Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.

piskr said:
Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.
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At this moment the pure edition doesn't support European LTE bands. It only supports bands 2, 4 and 17. Motorola said they will unlock bands 3, 5 and 7 soon via a software update. 3 and 7 are the important ones to Germany.

Radixtrator said:
Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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But we still don't if it's pure in the sense that the boot loader is unlockable. Can anyone confirm?

Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?

piskr said:
Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?
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Huh? 95 pure is USA only. Of what dirty tricks do you speak?

Well, it's a long history of them. Browse Motorola forums. Motorola is far to servile to the operators to the detriement of its own customers. Never truely analyzed whether such a policy pays off. I personally believe that their phones could sell better. It's not normal to not reveil significant parts of specifications for different models, weird mess with lte bands, blocked tethering, voip..
And those are only last issues.

[Q] Moto G and T-mobil?

I know there are various generations and versions of the Moto G. Do any work well with T-mobil?

yea the moto g model #xt1064 works with T-mobiles Hspa+ bands
you can get one from best buy

XT1064 here running unlocked on T-Mobile without issues. Picked it up at Sears for $133 last night. $2.60 unlock code on eBay.

Well its goodbye from ME - slowing down but not stopping totally

Today I sold both my XT1068's as I acquired my partners XT1072 (moto g 2nd gen 4g lte) so I will no longer be as active on this forum, and tbh I'm not feeling as much love for the xt1072 as I did the xt1068's - the phone is only being used as a contact phone for my daughters school (disabled) so I wont be modding this one.
I am considering a LG G3 (having owned a LG G2 before) as I can get it for £169.99 with staff discount.
anyway all the best and I will try to support what I can - just won't have a phone to test it on...

120$ Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo - Questions about it

Ok So I am planning to purchase a Droid Turbo but I want to ask some questions before I buy it
I heard that the battery is not so good even with it's 3900mah battery size, Did it become better on Lollipop or Marshmallow?
The camera takes slow pictures on Kitkat...Did that improve on Lollipop or Marshmallow?
The seller says it's GSM Unlocked,Does that mean I can get LTE data or only 2G/3G? ( I live in Jordan if that helps )
Is it good for the price range or there is a better phone out there for the same price?

Sparksys said:
The seller says it's GSM Unlocked,Does that mean I can get LTE data or only 2G/3G? ( I live in Jordan if that helps )
Is it good for the price range or there is a better phone out there for the same price?
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The Droid Turbo is the XT1254. Comes in 32GB and 64GB varieties. For that price, I'm assuming it's the 32GB version.
It's a Motorola Quark. Verizon carrier in U.S. called theirs the "Droid Turbo". There are sibling models with the exact same specs --- just like an LG "G4" sold in England is still the same LG G4 sold in Brazil. Might have different radio bands, but is STILL the same "LG G4" -- same hardware, same specs, etc. For some reason Verizon wanted to claim "exclusive" when really they had none. XT1254 Droid Turbo/XT1225 Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is all the same phone. The XT1225 has different radio bands, but the XT1250 even has the same radio bands and same FCC ID as the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Other carriers/other countries called it the Moto Maxx. In India Motorola called it Moto Turbo because there was a carrier called "Max or "Maxx" and Motorola didn't want people to think that carrier was affiliated with this device. Verizon sold the U.S Moto Maxx XT1250 but called theirs a "Droid Turbo". The only thing "exclusive" about the Droid Turbo is the locked-down bootloader.
XT1225 comes in 64GB only, XT1250 comes in 32GB only. XT1254 comes in 32GB/64GB.
The XT1225 has no CDMA bands but extra HSPA and LTE bands. Both the XT1254 Droid Turbo and XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx have CDMA bands which you probably don't need.
The are all GSM unlocked. I have no idea what HSPA bands Jordan uses, but Wikipedia says Zain and Orange both use LTE band 3. All the Quarks have LTE band 3.
If you care about development, see if the the XT1254 bootloader is already unlocked. On the Droid Turbo XT1254 it can only be unlocked if it's on Verizon SUTL-44 firmware via $25 Sunshine exploit. If it's already on SUTL-49 and still locked, you are out of luck. The other Quarks have easily unlocked bootloaders via Motorola.
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The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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for those who NEED CDMA, NEED LTE band 13, NEED Verizon...
"dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/dev-version-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3391792
otherwise the XT1225 (64GB) is the better phone for most people not on Verizon.
I've written about all this before:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66972299&postcount=31
Same information, just written slightly differently, maybe easier to understand.

Thanks for your detailed explanation
But you didn't answer my questions
How is the battery life on lollipop or marshmallow
And how is the camera capture speed?

Sparksys said:
Thanks for your detailed explanation
But you didn't answer my questions
How is the battery life on lollipop or marshmallow
And how is the camera capture speed?
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I answered the questions I wanted to answer, about your bands. Zain and Orange use LTE band 3. That's the only carriers I can find in Jordan. All the Quarks have LTE band 3.
MY camera speed on my XT1225 is fine. If you use HDR, you will have slower shutter speed but better pictures. If you turn that off you will have faster shutter speed.
You're not going to get Marshmallow right now if your bootloader is not unlocked. The XT1225 has received official Marshmallow but the Droid Turbo XT1254 has not. There ARE Marshmallow custom ROMs available but you cannot flash them with a locked bootloader. That's why it's important you check what firmware that Droid Turbo has. SUTL-44 or lower, you are OK. SUTL-49, out of luck -- unless the bootloader was already unlocked before flashing SUTL-49.
Other people can answer the other questions.
I own three Quarks, so obviously I think they are great phones. I even sold a FREE LG G4 I won last year and bought a third XT1225 (for backup). Never used the LG G4 because my XT1225 was much better, in my opinion. My wife has one also.
And my XT1225 are the 64GB models with more LTE bands/more HSPA bands -- so more expensive than 32GB Droid Turbo variant.

Omg
You are extremely helpful!
Thanks!!
One more thing
I read that you have sold your G4 to get the droid turbo
Does that mean the droid turbo is much better than the G4?

Sparksys said:
Omg
You are extremely helpful!
Thanks!!
One more thing
I read that you have sold your G4 to get the droid turbo
Does that mean the droid turbo is much better than the G4?
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It's very close.
The G4 has 5.5" 1440p LCD, the Quark has 5.2" AMOLED. BETTER display, and I actually like the slightly smaller form. Others may like the larger display, even if the AMOLED is better.
G4 had Snapdragon 808, Quark has the Snapdragon 805, but I'm not sure you would see a real world difference. Both have 3GB RAM.
Quark has built in Qi wireless. You have to buy a replacement back cover (about $12)to enable that in G4 (at least in the US). I actually did that before I sold it, to make it worth more.
The Quark has turbo charging (Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0), and so does the LG G4.
Quark has the Moto IR sensors. Moto Display. G4 doesn't have that, although it does have some IR sensors.
G4 has an advantage in microSD card expansion port. But I have 64GB internal storage on my XT1225. Still I'll give the G4 that point. If you are buying a 32GB version, keep that in mind.
The G4 has rear camera OIS, with laser focus. Quark does not. Another point for the G4.
However, my wife is Brazilian and we went to visit last year -- where we could easily use our XT1225. The Quark has all of Brazil's LTE bands (3,7) as well as all of AT&T LTE bands (2,4,5,17).
That tipped the Quark into being better for me. Others may see the G4 as being better.
If the XT1225 didn't exist, the LG G4 would be the phone I would have. Or the new ZTE AXON 7.

ChazzMatt said:
It's very close.
The G4 has 5.5" 1440p LCD, the Quark has 5.2" AMOLED. BETTER display, and I actually like the slightly smaller form. Others may like the larger display, even if the AMOLED is better.
G4 had Snapdragon 808, Quark has the Snapdragon 805, but I'm not sure you would see a real world difference. Both have 3GB RAM.
Quark has built in Qi wireless. You have to buy a replacement back cover (about $12)to enable that in G4 (at least in the US). I actually did that before I sold it, to make it worth more.
The Quark has turbo charging (Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0), and so does the LG G4.
Quark has the Moto IR sensors. Moto Display. G4 doesn't have that, although it does have some IR sensors.
G4 has an advantage in microSD card expansion port. But I have 64GB internal storage on my XT1225. Still I'll give the G4 that point. If you are buying a 32GB version, keep that in mind.
The G4 has rear camera OIS, with laser focus. Quark does not. Another point for the G4.
However, my wife is Brazilian and we went to visit last year -- where we could easily use our XT1225. The Quark has all of Brazil's LTE bands (3,7) as well as all of AT&T LTE bands (2,4,5,17).
That tipped the Quark into being better for me. Others may see the G4 as being better.
If the XT1225 didn't exist, the LG G4 would be the phone I would have. Or the new ZTE AXON 7.
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Yeah I am confused between them too
But I will be going for thr droid turbo since it's 70$ cheaper
Thanks for everything
You are one of the best helpful members in XDA that's for sure

You've already been given a lot of good info and I won't repeat that.
But whoever told you the battery life isn't good is deluded. The battery life of the Droid Turbo is excellent on the current OS (Lollipop). If it ever gets Marshmallow, the battery life will probably be even better. But it's one of the best phones available in terms of battery life, and for the price point on the used market, it's probably THE best phone in terms of battery life.

Android One branding on Amazon XT1900-1?

I'm looking to buy an X4, but I am intent on avoiding the Prime Edition or any other model which will give me problems unlocking the bootloader. If an XT1900-1 says Android One on the back, can I be confident that it is unlockable? Did the Amazon Prime models come with this branding? Are there any other things I should look out for and avoid?
Gonna throw up some prayers this morning for a utopia where all phones have fastboot unlockable bootloaders from the factory and I don't have to worry about this bull****.