Sorry if it was answered before, but I could not find it.
I'm trying to figure which model is sold on Amazon as Motorola Moto X - 16GB, Unlocked Phone - US Warranty - Black
here (cannot post link - the id is B00E92AV2W)
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com - so I assume it is not resold by some merchant.
The questions I have:
1) Is it 1053, 1058, or some other model? A tried asking on Amazon with no luck.
2) How it will receive Android updates? As it's not tied to a carrier, will it be directly from Motorola?
3) Is it the same design as black/plain black back/silver accents from motomaker?
4) Is there any logo on the back? Apart from moto's
5) Does it have unlocked (unlockable) bootloader?
Thanks everyone who could help!
If it's listed as GSM unlocked, it's probably the XT1053. The XT1058 is the AT&T branded version.
No logo and no carrier bloat on the 1053. It will probably come with a T-Mobile SIM.
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I finally found this Note8 forum hehhe.. Anyways, I spoke to 2 Samsung tech and they confirmed to me that the unlocked version that has snapdragon 835 does have an unlocked bootloader! I made sure he was not confused between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and he asks me right away you want to root your phone right? He said it will void your warranty, and I said that is fine. Anyways to verified what he said is true or not? I mean both of them responded yes to having a unlocked bootloader.
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No, you cannot buy the Note 8 with an unlocked boot-loader on any network or if it's carrier unlocked. That just means it can be used on any carriers network. I'd like to hope for boot-loader unlock exploit but I think the very best we can hope for is perhaps a boot-to-root sometime in the future.
I wonder why they are telling us it does have it? Anyway to check ourselves?
xterminater07 said:
I wonder why they are telling us it does have it? Anyway to check ourselves?
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they want to have it secured,
Samsung is offering $200,000 for exploits so they can plug it up like Apple..
they have everything locked down for a few years now... and getting harder.. look at how it is... no development anymore for snap dragon models...
What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
The Exynos variant of the S8/+ are boot loader unlockable, so I'm assuming with the Note 8 being so similar, this will be the case for it as well. The issue is with the Snapdragon variant.
Further to this, some 'far eastern' models are bootloader unlocked out of the box. There are a number of threads on the S8/+ forums that attest to this.
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What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
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Same here. Bootloader unlocking is a pipe dream for Snapdragon (Verizon here, so no choice) models. I do hold out some hope for root, which honestly is all I probably need. Give me my backup apps, ad blockers, etc.
they should offer a dev edition like they did on the note 4's.
I agree
It's probably a safe assumption but has it ever been confirmed that the Exynos version can be BL unlocked? I know the s8 was easy so probably this will be also, but I sure would like a solid confirmation before I buy one.
Mike02z said:
What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
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Forgetting @beaups wouldn't get you far.
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Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
Araltd said:
Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
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I thought they were all locked but easily unlockable. How are you telling the difference?
I stick with my promise to Samsung since note3
I will not buy another locked bootloader device, I will go with pixel 2 xl
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Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
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There is a difference between Sim-unlocked and bootloader unlocked. In terms of bootloaders, Exynos variants are unlocked whereas almost all Snapdragons (except Korean model I think) are locked.
Birbey said:
I will not buy another locked bootloader device, I will go with pixel 2 xl
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ok that's your prerogative. Note 8 Exynos models are not bootloader locked though, so you have choice
sefrcoko said:
There is a difference between Sim-unlocked and bootloader unlocked. In terms of bootloaders, Exynos variants are unlocked whereas almost all Snapdragons (except Korean model I think) are locked.
ok that's your prerogative. Note 8 Exynos models are not bootloader locked though, so you have choice
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Is any one of the carriers in USA using Exynos 9 series?
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Birbey said:
Is any one of the carriers in USA using Exynos 9 series?
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No, North American carriers have Snapdragon. Exynos models bought elsewhere can still work though, but it depends on the specific model and on your carrier (e.g. does the particular model support the LTE bands your carrier uses, etc.).
Hi,
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked or we are talking about a dead end 100%?
For 100$ less I mistakenly bought my Note 8 is the US though where I live (Israel) they sell the Exynos variant. I never would have done it if I knew it can't be easly rooted without "side effects" I don't care about Knox.
I am considering to switch to the Exynos version though I don't know if someone will buy it since there is no option for Hebrew in the UI.
Merry Christmas
xterminater07 said:
I finally found this Note8 forum hehhe.. Anyways, I spoke to 2 Samsung tech and they confirmed to me that the unlocked version that has snapdragon 835 does have an unlocked bootloader! I made sure he was not confused between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and he asks me right away you want to root your phone right? He said it will void your warranty, and I said that is fine. Anyways to verified what he said is true or not? I mean both of them responded yes to having a unlocked bootloader.
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He said absolute garbage. If only what he said was true, though. Makes ZERO sense why the US Unlocked Note 8 can't have an unlockable bootloader since it's being sold direct from Samsung and not through carriers with carrier software.
I'm thinking abut upgrading my wife's G5 plus and found this item:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000114833594.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart-amp.item.4000114833594&
I'm tyring to understand if this a real moto.
1) The price of this item looks too good to be true.
2) In GGMarena I only see 64Gb for the G7 plus ansld this one listed as 128Gb.
The seller told me that this is CN model with global ROM.
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms?
Any ideas about this?
Looks fake to me tbh
zohar_ml said:
I'm thinking abut upgrading my wife's G5 plus and found this item:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000114833594.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart-amp.item.4000114833594&
I'm tyring to understand if this a real moto.
1) The price of this item looks too good to be true.
2) In GGMarena I only see 64Gb for the G7 plus ansld this one listed as 128Gb.
The seller told me that this is CN model with global ROM.
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms?
Any ideas about this?
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Check on motorola website if it exists.
I did found some info on the issue:
The 128Gb is a real version in china:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/04/...us-with-4-6gb-ram-and-128gb-storage-in-china/
I had a strange talk with a chine representative over WeChat and he told me that not google apps run in that phone.
and also gave me a site from Motorola that should allow to unlock it's bootloader:
https://www.zui.com/iunlock
But I have no idea if the hardware is the same as the normal G7 plus so not sure if a custom ROM will not brick it...
If it is running the international ruu then it would have Google play store preinstalled.......
The first one I bought late 2019 was locked and I had to go through the usual waiting game procedure. I got another one from aliexpress yesterday (global rom) and it's already unlocked. At least it says so on boot screen and dev settings. Is this a usual thing Xaiomi do.... pre-unlock older models? cheers....
No Fun Pig said:
The first one I bought late 2019 was locked and I had to go through the usual waiting game procedure. I got another one from aliexpress yesterday (global rom) and it's already unlocked. At least it says so on boot screen and dev settings. Is this a usual thing Xaiomi do.... pre-unlock older models? cheers....
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Both me and my cousin's note 7 came locked. In your case I believe the bootloader was unlocked by the previous owner or the seller before it was sold.
no one store sell devices with unlocked bootloader.
you bought an used device from a previous owner who didn't know how to relock the bootloader.
I've also bought once a phone with this issue. Not all sellers are honest and some of them just trying to sell you some trash. I've personally started using extensions to monitor the sellers trust factor, parcel tracking and items real quality based on qualified reviews. Here is a link to the tool - https://alitools.io/en
chances are you bought a previously used phone, i would recommend restoring it with Xiaomi tools and flashing the stock factory firmware to make sure the previous user didnt leave anything malicious on the phone.