The carriers in my country (Norway) seems to support both versions LTE bands B3/B7. With the black global version it seems that I wont get NFC? But that's the only difference for me then?
The only differences between both versions (other than colour) is that international has a CE certificate, and comes with European charger (mostly EU, but I've got UK in mine).
Sadly neither of those supports NFC.
Ok, thank you. Guess I'll just buy a gold colored max2 then, seems to be a shortage of black ones at the moment.
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Right now I have a choice between original HTC Diamond or the US version but I am not sure which one to pick. Can anyone please shed some light on this? Thank you in advance!
it would help if you were to mention where you live (US vs. Europe) and travel to, and other things factoring into your decision. if you're in the US (e.g., live here) go with the US version because it has the correct 3G radio; high-speed internet access on your phone AND 850 band which provides better signal..
Sorry, I live in US and on T-Mobile network.
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
tzour said:
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
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good clarification on the 3G network; T-Mobile uses, I believe, the 1700 3G band in the US and att uses the 850/1900 3G band. also, if you weren't aware, the US version of the Diamond is available at Best Buy Mobile, typically located in Best Buy stoes.
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I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
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Then probably yellow tints/stripes are found for both models:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426319&page=10, which is for the US 3G Diamond.. sigh
@cortez.i: Thank you for confirming the complicated 3G issues
The US version is also more easily returned and exchanged by just going into a Best Buy and it will be better covered under the warranty from HTC. HTC is not pleased that companies like Expansys sell Euro HTC phones to customers in the US and says it won't fully cover those phones. You can't use either model on 3G on T-Mobile USA, so for you the main difference would be the warranty.
Sorry if there is an answer for this, but I can't find it. I was wondering if anyone can tell me if the Chinese version (ME863) comes with the Android Market (and other Google Apps) or not?
I don't mean the version sold by China Unicom, I mean a generic one sold by a third party (say amazon.cn), unless of course the software is the same.
If not, how easy would it be to add (I have flashed/rooted other phones before, I just don't know about the ME863)?
The generic one, sold in Hong Kong for a few weeks now, has the normal market. It's a normal Android phone, with all the Google apps, plus a few Motorola apps... I do believe the one sold in China must be exactly the same thing.
Ok thanks for your reply. I might just buy a HK version anyway to be on the safe side: they're very easy to find and a tiny bit cheaper as well.
When I went to a Motorola desk in Xidan none of the phones had Google apps, but that could've been because they were the China Unicom/China Mobile variants even though it didn't say they were.
My retail ME863's version code includes "SLNCU" so I suspect the hardware's identical. There wasn't any marking on the packaging except TSN (The HK Motorola distributor). I got mine through a website though, so I never saw it in-store.
Mine's running 60.1.103, while the known ME863 SBF image is marked 60.1.101, doesn't include Google Mobile Service, and doesn't offer an OTA upgrade to 60.1.103, so I guess it's a carrier-specific fork.
So checking the firmware version will tell 'em apart, and I _guess_ that if an SBF shows up for the HK Retail version (or potentially Taiwan, I guess) it'd be safe to cross-grade.
The other option would be to flash Google Mobile Service onto a China Unicom device. There's a link to the package in the ME863 SBF thread.
I hadn't realised there was an Carrier-branded ME863... I guessed that the ME863 was basically the UMTS version of the XT883, but I don't know where in China is UMTS and where is CDMA so I was assuming mainland is CDMA while HK and TW are UMTS.
Thanks for the info. No I don't think there's a China Unicom branded device (AFAIK Unicom themselves don't offer the device but yes there is a PRC UMTS version). i.e. it's obviously for China Unicom and I believe it is customised to accomodate that, but its not branded for it.
I couldn't get a look at the actual one, and the service reps didn't know about the Google thing, but none of the other seemingly generic models included Google Apps (for example the Atrix 2 - whatever its Chinese name is).
One more question about the HK version (if you don't mind!): what locales does it include? I believe its en-GB, en-US, zh-CN and zh-HK, correct?
By the way: UMTS and CDMA are both nationally available: China Unicom uses UMTS for 3G while China Mobile uses some weird version of CDMA (one that only they use if I'm not mistaken). Both use GSM for 2G
According to MoreLocale 2 I have English UK and US, and Chinese China + Taiwan... The Android locale settings simply offers English UK and US and Chinese Traditional and Simplified.
My ME863 is build SLNCU ("Solana China Unicom"? I'd been assuming that U was "Unlocked" or "UMTS") but product is SLNHK, where the XT883 is product SLNCT ("Solana China Telecom") and (at least in the first SBF thread I found using Google) the build doesn't contain a name.
This got me looking, and there's a couple of oddities here:
ro.product.locale.region is TW, although ro.product.name is SLNHK and ro.build.id is SLNCU-60.1.103
ro.build.config.version is GAS_ASIA_SOLANAUMTSHKTWN_P017 and ro.build.version.carrier is ChinaRetail. So the _rom_ is obviously shared between HK and TW.
So apart from the build branch, I can't see anything that indicate mine's built towards China Unicom requirements, but it might be that the only difference between the rom build in the HK Retail devices and the ones you're seeing in Xidan _is_ lack of Google Apps.
I hope that helps? It reminded me to tell my phone I'm in not in Australia anymore. ^_^
I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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It's hard to say because of the limited information still available on the Chinese variants. Typically the China Unicom version is closest to the international version and with other devices, international Roms work. China mobile will definitely not work because they use TD-CDMA which is unique to China mobile only. China telecom should also be similar to China unicom version.
I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
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I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
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the HTC china version is different from international, it has 3 version TDCDMA, WCDMA, and CDMA2000. the WCDMA varience support two sim card (one WCDMA micro sim one GSM normal sim), pls micro sd card.
i'm also in China and actually interesting in this model as well, but there will probably be very little XDA support(custom rom) , so i may end up getting the international version.
also note that the WCDMA only support 900/2100MHz band.
I'm just about to make the same decisions.
Now that I've ruled out the Xperia Z and am getting ready to buy the HTC One, I'm surely interested in the benefits of having an SD-slot as well as Dual Sim support, but worry that I might not get to participate on the customs rom frenzy, even if it is just to get rid of all the pre-installed Unicom crap.
Has anybody had the chance to try it out yet?
I'm looking for a version that supports North American bands and from what I understand, the 12gb/512gb one should be the only one that does.
But I also stumbled upon this listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000182288484.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.24fcc18esuf2nD
Which supposedly is 8gb/128gb with North American bands. From what I understand this version shouldn't exist? It also mentions both 2x2 MIMO and 4x4 MIMO so I have no idea which it actually has.
In the description it says: "Tips: CN version, Officail Global Firmare,Mulit Language , Support Google Play and OTA upgrade"
Are they trying to say that it's the Tencent version but with global ROM? I thought OTA upgrades currently don't work on the global ROM?
They also write: " About package and firmware: we'll open the original box to check the phone and install Multi language ROM and Google paly store. Official ROM will be prefered. if custom translation may doesn't cover all the Menus. Not support OTA Update. we may update the ROM. So the OS version may different as the sreenshots."
But I think they have this as a disclaimer on all their phone product pages, whether it applies or not.
I'm trying to determine whether the listing is legit or not and whether to place an order. Did they make a mistake/ are they lying about the bands? Or is there an actual version like this/ did they manage to do something to the Tencent version? In terms of reputation, there's nothing particularly suspicious about the seller so I wouldn't imagine they would outright lie, but it's also a pretty big mistake to make, especially since they highlight the key specs (and bands) in red.
I'm leaning towards the "don't trust" side, with this one, but what do you think?
IMO, you would be better off waiting a few more days till the global version is released. That's a China version with global software, which has been nothing but trouble for most of the people i have heard about that converted.
They already told you.
This is china tencent edition. The phone is not is not brand new, we will open the box, we will turn on you phone, we will root it and unlock the bootloader, in order to replace CN ROM with WW ROM.
So, it will be 2x2, it will lack most bands, it will lack the cover and the cooling accessory included in Ww edition, which will be launched on 30th of September.
Of course, no warranty at all from ASUS and you may have trouble with NFC payments and banking apps. Some other apps may recognise your modified rom, too.
If you are ready, acknowledging all this, you can buy it asap.
I've browsed through the forum, as well as in the web and could not find the answers to my question.
I've been seeing throughout (Nubia's website, gsmarena, ebay listings) that different "versions" of the device are compatible with different bands.
With that said, I haven't seen different versions of the device around and it's not clear to me if there even are two versions.
Is it the case that whether you flash the NA v103 vs the EU v203 ROM, there'll be different band compatibility?
Has anyone used the device in the US? Is the reception good? (I'm on Metropcs)
If I buy it from this link (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nubia-Z20-...hash=item2cf91a8a75:m:msBr-AqyOKf-4kOGzQXk8Og), would I get the NA version?
Also, how is the device with security updates?
I use the z20 on AT&T. Cell signal is good, wifi signal is very strong.
As far as security updates, not a single one. So if that's important to u, I'd skip it.
I have the US version on Tmobile, and it works fine (purchased from Nubia directly). I can't respond about some offering on ebay.
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I have the US version on Tmobile, and it works fine (purchased from Nubia directly). I can't respond about some offering on ebay.
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I highly doubt it but does it support Wi-Fi calling and HD Voice?
I don't know why you doubt it but it does support wifi calling, I am not sure if it will support HD.