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Is it a good time?

My question is
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming? If yes...
Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
Thanks a lot in advance for the answers, I'm lost in the subject...

elcape said:
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming?
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If you want a tablet now/today I think the NookColor is a great choice if you are willing to hack on it a bit. My only suggestion is to NOT buy a tablet from China... I'm still cleaning up from that mistake after almost 2 months! (Damn you Pandawill!)
elcape said:
Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
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While I haven't done it you can unroot the NookColor.
elcape said:
When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
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It may never, just as there are never any guarantees that a device will be updated. Thankfully we have XDA and some great ROM cooks!

Only you can decide if it is a good time for you.
I got the Nook Color as a Christmas present, but would have bought it myself, probably. I had heard of it being rooted and wanted a fairly cheap tablet.
Right now the Nook Color is the cheapest Android Tablet with the best build quality (for the price).
Froyo is coming this month according to a few people. Rooting now isn't an issue because you can always go back to stock.
My suggestion, wait until after CES and see what is brought to the table if you are wavering. But know that if you are always waiting for the "best thing", you will never buy anything, because new and upcoming products are always being announced.

elcape said:
My question is
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming? If yes...
Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
Thanks a lot in advance for the answers, I'm lost in the subject...
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The NC is a good little tablet. There are better ones and there will be more coming soon.
It's an excellent time to root the NC. It can do so much more than B&N enabled. We don't know when the/if any update is coming. But we do know that custom roms are just around the corner. As soon as the new Clockwork Recovery gets sorted, there will be custom roms. The new recovery is a game changer for the NC.
I think 2.3 will come to the NC in the form of a custom rom. I do not have much faith that B&N is going to push it. I mean they still haven't done 2.2 and how long has that been out for other devices?

Musicman247 said:
Only you can decide if it is a good time for you.
Right now the Nook Color is the cheapest Android Tablet with the best build quality (for the price).
But know that if you are always waiting for the "best thing", you will never buy anything, because new and upcoming products are always being announced.
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That's what I'm looking for a budget tablet, and you are right about the new gadgets
I'm sure that the dual-core tablets will be way more expensive than US$250, and I'm not welling to spend more than that for a device to browse the web, email and videos.
Another question, what video formats(codecs) are supported on the rooted nook??
Thanks for the answers

jleecong said:
If you want a tablet now/today I think the NookColor is a great choice if you are willing to hack on it a bit. My only suggestion is to NOT buy a tablet from China... I'm still cleaning up from that mistake after almost 2 months! (Damn you Pandawill!)
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something like Archos?

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something like Archos?
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Ask yourself what you want in a device. Are you using it as an ereader first, tablet second? Or tablet first, ereader second? I’ve had many, MANY Chinese tablets (G10, G11, Xpad, etc) and they are all junk. In the end, I still only used it as an ereader.
I wont get into an argument about Archos vs NC. There are other threads that compare the two. However, know this about technology: if you keep waiting for the next best thing, you’ll always be waiting. Buy now and make a stand that you wont care about another tablet for one year. You’ll be much better off with that mind set.
That being said, know what you want and find it:
- 7” or 10”?
- Resistive or Capacitive screen (obviously Capacitive)
- Large user community or you don’t care?
The NC fits what I want and use it for. I’d recommend it as an ereader AND a tablet. All these fancy options like HDMI out are rather useless to me. I have my netbook with infinitely better specs than any tablet out there.

HotShotAzn said:
Ask yourself what you want in a device. Are you using it as an ereader first, tablet second? Or tablet first, ereader second? I’ve had many, MANY Chinese tablets (G10, G11, Xpad, etc) and they are all junk. In the end, I still only used it as an ereader.
I wont get into an argument about Archos vs NC. There are other threads that compare the two. However, know this about technology: if you keep waiting for the next best thing, you’ll always be waiting. Buy now and make a stand that you wont care about another tablet for one year. You’ll be much better off with that mind set.
That being said, know what you want and find it:
- 7” or 10”?
- Resistive or Capacitive screen (obviously Capacitive)
- Large user community or you don’t care?
The NC fits what I want and use it for. I’d recommend it as an ereader AND a tablet. All these fancy options like HDMI out are rather useless to me. I have my netbook with infinitely better specs than any tablet out there.
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I not looking to read on it, (book or magazines) just as a tablet, browsing and all the other good stuff
i dont know archos quality

elcape said:
I not looking to read on it, (book or magazines) just as a tablet, browsing and all the other good stuff
i dont know archos quality
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The Nook was designed as a book reading device.
If you want a tablet, then buy a tablet, that way your not going to be disappointed.
Archos is a good choice, as is a few others out there right now.
Just because the Nook can function as a tablet, doesn't mean it will do everything you want it to do, and it certainly won't do it out of the box.
Nook is missing a Camera, Microphone, Native Functional Bluetooth, HDMI/Video out.
Its all up to you.

The nook is the best way to spend $250 on a tablet, if.....
these are important to you:
- Screen quality
- book Reading
- comic reading
- web browsing, other "connected" applications
- some gaming (is surprisingly robust in this regard, but compatibility issues are out there)
- Strong wifi reception
- overall build quality
- ease of basic rooting
- quality capacitive touch interface
and
These are not important to you
- Full out-of-box functionality
- Built in camera / gps / hdmi out
- having flash Right Now
- having native support for vid codecs other than mp4 encoded with mpeg4/h.264
- compatibility with future versions of Android
- the most processing muscle
The future will only increase the attractiveness of this device, with a 2.2 update from BN, custom roms, possible bluetooth etc.

[Q] How do I know which things are for old vs new FIRE HD?

Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan

Dan Miller said:
Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan
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Short answer: no.
You're not missing anything. Many (if not MOST) posts are extremely ambiguous about which hardware is being reference (Kindle, Kindle 2, HD, HD 2, HDX) then there's the size variations. Just the other day I asked a very similar question.
What I can tell you to look for is the firmware version number referenced because that is a great indicator of what's intended. Combine that with other hints and you can usually tell pretty well. For example, Kinde Fire HD could mean the 2012[ish] model that will be running 7.x firmware. The 2013 Kindle Fire HDs will be running 11.x now (if they're updated and as of when I'm posting this). That's the next major clue, look at when the post was made because that likely refers to the generation of device if it's a ROM/HACK (as opposed to inquiry). Firmware names tend to have the hardware nick-name in them too which can help also.
Personally, if I posted something hardware dependent I would provide my model #, year/month purchased, firmware version, model name (HD, HDX) and size.
Blame Amazon for being ridiculous with their product names.

Same boat
I too wish the Kindle names were less ambiguous. Moving forward, i would like to see new threads specify 2012 or 2013 models. I keep clicking on thread after thread hoping that somewhere a Cyanogenmod or other ROM has been found to work on the 2013/SOHO KFHD, but keep going in circles.

There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

thank you
LinearEquation said:
There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I appreciate the quick reply. Now i can rest finally knowing there is nothing more i can do with it for now. Wait...nevermind..now i have to start trying to hack my OUYA lol

Lmfao. stuck developers

[Q] Does rooting your device remove "Special Offers"?

Does rooting the 2012 Kindle Fire HD 7 remove the special offers? I want to retain the special offers in case any of them are good deals.
My other question is, what's the best way to root this device? From my research, it appears "Root Many Android" is the best option although the thread was last updated in 2013....

nexus14 said:
Does rooting the 2012 Kindle Fire HD 7 remove the special offers? I want to retain the special offers in case any of them are good deals.
My other question is, what's the best way to root this device? From my research, it appears "Root Many Android" is the best option although the thread was last updated in 2013....
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No,you can keep the special offers although you can disable them after rooting.

[Q] A Couple Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd Gen. Questions

I'm new to this device, and therefore new to researching about it, so if this question is redundant, I apologise. But even if it is, I hope someone will take a moment to help out.
Just got a Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd gen for Christmas. The serial number starts with 00D2, and after it went through a couple updates, it's now running Fire OS 4.52 (build 11.4.5.2). I have a factory cord on the way, but I'm looking to be prepared for when it arrives. Is there a way to root this, yet? Can this device be rooted with Firerooter?
Also, if it is possible, I'm possibly looking to install a different ROM as well, and I'm hoping for some recommendations. I want something that offers more customization ability, and a wider set of options, but I don't need something as extravagant as CM 11, for example. I also don't want one that will lag on this device (I hate waiting), or consume the battery much faster than Fire OS 4 does. I'd prefer if it consumed less battery power honestly, but I figure that's asking for too much. Any help is appreciated.

Firerooter. Yes. KFSOWI modding community on Google+

What to do? unopened Fire 7 (2015)

Looking for input/opinions- thanks in advance!
I bought a Fire during one of the Christmastime sales a few years ago and never did anything with it. The box is still in shipping plastic.
I'd like to have an Android tablet for surfing and a few simple games (think sudoku, solitaire, word games).
I watch a lot of youtube videos, so being able to do that is a must.
Also, getting onto my google play account would be nice, hence the Android request.
Seems that Amazon has fallen out with Google of late and taken out much of the cross-connections from the Amazon interface. Is that right?
Not afraid of rooting things- been doing it since OG Droid days.
I'm not really sold on becoming a netizen of the Amazon fabric. I don't have any sort of Prime membership or use any of their services, outside of buying stuff.
I appreciate any and all responses!

phonetool said:
Looking for input/opinions- thanks in advance!
I bought a Fire during one of the Christmastime sales a few years ago and never did anything with it. The box is still in shipping plastic.
I'd like to have an Android tablet for surfing and a few simple games (think sudoku, solitaire, word games).
I watch a lot of youtube videos, so being able to do that is a must.
Also, getting onto my google play account would be nice, hence the Android request.
Seems that Amazon has fallen out with Google of late and taken out much of the cross-connections from the Amazon interface. Is that right?
Not afraid of rooting things- been doing it since OG Droid days.
I'm not really sold on becoming a netizen of the Amazon fabric. I don't have any sort of Prime membership or use any of their services, outside of buying stuff.
I appreciate any and all responses!
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Given your description there is a good chance the device has the original 5.x bootloader which means a custom lollipop based ROM (Fire Nexus or Lineage 12.1) can be easily installed and maintained. Both are stable and feature complete. There is no reason to boot FireOS...ever. Doing so may yield an unrootable device that can not be rooted or accommodate a custom ROM. Once FireOS has been banished the device has no affiliation with Amazon other than the name on the back.
Keep in mind the device is strictly entry level: 1 GB RAM, 8 GB User Storage (5 GB usable), 600x1024 low-res panel, etc. Almost any modern phone (and most burner varients) will run circles around a 5th gen Fire.
I'm happy to provide an outline of the steps required which are not lengthy/hard if you remain somewhat skilled in tethered operations and have familiarity with terms such as ADB, Fastboot, GApps, SuperSU and TWRP. You'll also need a suitable Windows host, be comfortable working with file systems and the Windows command prompt. That said, I prefer not to invest the time if the device will remain drawered or sold given its limited capabilities. A simple ask before responding.

Davey126 said:
Given your description there is a good chance the device has the original 5.x bootloader which means a custom lollipop based ROM (Fire Nexus or Lineage 12.1) can be easily installed and maintained. Both are stable and feature complete. There is no reason to boot FireOS...ever. Doing so may yield an unrootable device that can not be rooted or accommodate a custom ROM. Once FireOS has been banished the device has no affiliation with Amazon other than the name on the back.
Keep in mind the device is strictly entry level: 1 GB RAM, 8 GB User Storage (5 GB usable), 600x1024 low-res panel, etc. Almost any modern phone (and most burner varients) will run circles around a 5th gen Fire.
I'm happy to provide an outline of the steps required which are not lengthy/hard if you remain somewhat skilled in tethered operations and have familiarity with terms such as ADB, Fastboot, GApps, SuperSU and TWRP. You'll also need a suitable Windows host, be comfortable working with file systems and the Windows command prompt. That said, I prefer not to invest the time if the device will remain drawered or sold given its limited capabilities. A simple ask before responding.
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Thanks very much for the info and offer!
I would like to try to put one of those two on the device.
I'm away from home this week, so cannot attempt anything just yet.
My Windows machine is a Samsung UMPC running Win7, otherwise I have a Raspberry Pi that does daily work. It does have ADB, but I haven't used it successfully (couldn't figure out the proper command structure on linux).
I'll do some reading this week on what's needed for the effort.
Thanks again!