I'm new to this device, and therefore new to researching about it, so if this question is redundant, I apologise. But even if it is, I hope someone will take a moment to help out.
Just got a Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd gen for Christmas. The serial number starts with 00D2, and after it went through a couple updates, it's now running Fire OS 4.52 (build 11.4.5.2). I have a factory cord on the way, but I'm looking to be prepared for when it arrives. Is there a way to root this, yet? Can this device be rooted with Firerooter?
Also, if it is possible, I'm possibly looking to install a different ROM as well, and I'm hoping for some recommendations. I want something that offers more customization ability, and a wider set of options, but I don't need something as extravagant as CM 11, for example. I also don't want one that will lag on this device (I hate waiting), or consume the battery much faster than Fire OS 4 does. I'd prefer if it consumed less battery power honestly, but I figure that's asking for too much. Any help is appreciated.
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Hello!
So, I'm not really a noob to this, just to this account and posting on the site. Therefore, I am blocked out of the Dev section, which is the only one REALLY for the Kindle 2.
Anyways, I have a question or questions!
I have been a long time android user and loved to modify my phone and try out the tons of new ROMs out there and always have the latest software running.
At work for xmas we had a raffle and I won a Kindle Fire running OS version 10.2.4. Now, I never really touched anything Kindle or any related things so I was out of the loop. I looked some stuff up and surmised that I have a Kindle Fire 2, which is fairly new. I also seemed to find that the Kindle Fire series runs modified android, can be rooted, and the Original Fire has some ROMs for it.
Now, when it comes to the Kindle 2 things seem to be a little confusing.
As far as I can tell, you can root the device, with Qemu method, and install and run android apps? I could not find anything on getting a recovery on the system, and thus, no ROMs. Is this basically true?
If so, is there any news on headway for making this available? I want to work on getting JB or something that is true android running on the Fire but if we don't have much of any progress, then I will just wait.
Thanks!
It seems as though you and I have similar problems. I do have a Kindle 2 and I'm fairly happy with the the actual hardware but I'm not at all satisfied with Amazon's spammy OS. I'm hoping that I can either root it and download something like Go Launcher Ex to get an android style launcher or simply replace the current os with a viable ROM.
Unlike the OP, my experience with this type of thing is very limited and I'm having trouble understanding some of the jargon being used on many of the guides that have been provided on this subject. If anyone would be willing to walk me through this process, I'd really appreciate it. Oh, and my current version is 10.1.1.
I've done quite a bit of searching, both on Google and here on the forum and I haven't found an answer that applies to the 7-inch KFHD. I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 running on it, but it would be really nice to be able to have both JB and the stock Amazon OS installed and be able to switch between them. Is there any way to do this currently? I haven't found anything saying one way or the other. Does anyone else have any idea?
zoness32 said:
I've done quite a bit of searching, both on Google and here on the forum and I haven't found an answer that applies to the 7-inch KFHD. I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 running on it, but it would be really nice to be able to have both JB and the stock Amazon OS installed and be able to switch between them. Is there any way to do this currently? I haven't found anything saying one way or the other. Does anyone else have any idea?
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I don't think it's possible, not at this stage. Stock Amazon OS runs on Amazon's ecosystem, in that it is built to work only with Amazon services. This is why simply sideloading Google Play will make it fail miserably. Google's ecosystem requires the GoogleServicesFramework in order to run. There's no way to dual-boot because currently the 1st bootloader handles fastboot yet the 2nd handles the recovery. No one's ever made a 2nd-bootloader public before, and the work that was done by fattire, verygreen and Hashcode is the first. So while it's not completely impossible, I don't think it will come in the near future.
What about different roms?
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I don't think it's possible, not at this stage. Stock Amazon OS runs on Amazon's ecosystem, in that it is built to work only with Amazon services. This is why simply sideloading Google Play will make it fail miserably. Google's ecosystem requires the GoogleServicesFramework in order to run. There's no way to dual-boot because currently the 1st bootloader handles fastboot yet the 2nd handles the recovery. No one's ever made a 2nd-bootloader public before, and the work that was done by fattire, verygreen and Hashcode is the first. So while it's not completely impossible, I don't think it will come in the near future.
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I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my Kindle Fire HD 7" also, but what about dual booting it with another rom such as AOKP? Then it wouldnt need the amazon ecosystem.
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I currently have Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my Kindle Fire HD 7" also, but what about dual booting it with another rom such as AOKP? Then it wouldnt need the amazon ecosystem.
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I'm also very interested in how you would dual boot CM10.1 and the original Kindle Fire HD 7" OS. I have read somewhere that for now, that's the only way you can use the Amazon apps (due to the above cited Amazon ecosystem). I have TWRP and the 2nd bootloader, but haven't found any threads on dual booting different ROMs.
Dual Booting?
Too bad.
I am running the N2A OS on my 7" KFHD. Mostly a satisfactory experience, but I would like to have the ability the read borrowed books from my Amazon Prime account on it, and also to play Amazon Prime videos. Unfortunately, Amazon has not seen fit to allows either of these to be done on an Android tablet, only on the Kindles (borrowed books) and Kindle Fire tablets.
I have not seen any indication that they are planning to change their policy with respect to these permissions - dual booting would be a great solution.
I have tried the workaround for the Amazon videos (installing Adobe Flash), but have found the results to be less then satisfactory.
Similarly, I tried rooting my Kindle Fire HD and installing Google Play, but found that I was getting repeating Google Framework has stopped messages, and another message as well.
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Follow this link if you can find any solution http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551661
SafeStrap
Looks like hashcode had done it with safestrap, but it's no longer available for Kindle Fire.Link
Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan
Dan Miller said:
Hi Everyone,
Is there a simple way to determine which methods to do which things are for which device?
It seems (unless I am missing something-- it wouldn't be the first time) that this forum mixes the 2012 and the new version of the Fire HD and apparently they are so NOT the same device that it could be disastrous to try some of the things listed here.
I bought a Fire HD this Christmas for my daughter and simply want to root it and hopefully install TWRP and a ROM to make it more generically Android. If nothing else, at least get GAPPS, so she won't have to pay for apps she already has on her phone.
I see threads here that imply that it is possible (second bootloader, etc), but there is no mention anywhere if these methods are for the older or newer version (again, unless I have missed it).
I was hoping that at least in this top level forum for all of the Fire HD devices, that in the FAQ it would help spell out what can and can't be done and how to determine the differences by tread title.
If I'm missing something (and again, my ADD makes that a definite possibility :silly, please let me know, but other XDA forums (my Galaxy S4 for example) has rules for how things get posted to help differentiate between hardware differences that could cause a brick to happen.
I understand that there are many more older Fire HD devices out there, but Amazon sold tonnage this past Christmas of the new ones so hopefully good things are in store, but that makes differentiation even more important, no?
Thanks in advance,
Dan
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Short answer: no.
You're not missing anything. Many (if not MOST) posts are extremely ambiguous about which hardware is being reference (Kindle, Kindle 2, HD, HD 2, HDX) then there's the size variations. Just the other day I asked a very similar question.
What I can tell you to look for is the firmware version number referenced because that is a great indicator of what's intended. Combine that with other hints and you can usually tell pretty well. For example, Kinde Fire HD could mean the 2012[ish] model that will be running 7.x firmware. The 2013 Kindle Fire HDs will be running 11.x now (if they're updated and as of when I'm posting this). That's the next major clue, look at when the post was made because that likely refers to the generation of device if it's a ROM/HACK (as opposed to inquiry). Firmware names tend to have the hardware nick-name in them too which can help also.
Personally, if I posted something hardware dependent I would provide my model #, year/month purchased, firmware version, model name (HD, HDX) and size.
Blame Amazon for being ridiculous with their product names.
Same boat
I too wish the Kindle names were less ambiguous. Moving forward, i would like to see new threads specify 2012 or 2013 models. I keep clicking on thread after thread hoping that somewhere a Cyanogenmod or other ROM has been found to work on the 2013/SOHO KFHD, but keep going in circles.
There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
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thank you
LinearEquation said:
There are not many threads about the 2013 Kindle Fire HD 7 because there are not many exploits. There is root, remove lock screen ads and the ability to install Google Play although Google Play at this point is for window shopping only. Attempts to download from the play store, at this point, will freeze the tablet and you will need to reboot it. I added the links in my signature to help people find the few topics available.
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I appreciate the quick reply. Now i can rest finally knowing there is nothing more i can do with it for now. Wait...nevermind..now i have to start trying to hack my OUYA lol
Lmfao. stuck developers
Hello there fellow XDA'ers. I was wondering if you could lend me a hand and help me understand as I'm completely lost and will consider myself a newb (noob) with the kindle fire hd. I was wondering if theres any roms/recovery for the 3rd generation 7 inch fire hd's and if so would you mind helping me out. Ive been looking for the last week to try to find anything and I'm at a complete roadblock. Please help.
~jamer123
Rootable but no ROMs
You need to be at KFSOWI modding https://plus.google.com/communities/115612726860884592519
If you rooted with Firerooter, trust that community--there are no supported ROMs for Fire OS4. If you haven't rooted, go root. Might find you're good without a ROM. It's easy to block most Amazon and use Gapps on any custom launcher you like. Or best of all possible worlds, set it up so you can switch back and forth between custom launcher and Amazon with one tap.
Hi everyone, first time poster, though I have used the forums for a while. Apologies if this isn't the place for this question, but I couldn't find a better spot. I rooted my first-generation Fire (remember those?) a while ago and installed CM10 to get a more up-to-date version of Android than what came with the Fire, but the hardware is a little too old to run it well (just starting the Kindle book app can take close to a minute). I want to get the newest Fire 7 and put CM on it, and I was wondering how it compares with other "budget" tablets currently available, such as the Nexus 7, Zenpad S 8.0, or Galaxy Tab. Does it run comparably well, or is it really "bogged down"?
I didn't have much time with it hands-on, but I rooted and installed custom ROMs on a couple of them and they worked fairly well, no annoying stutters or lag. I gave one to my brother and he says it's working really well, himself having previously owned a 1st-gen Fire. If you still would like to squeeze something out of that one, I'd recommend going with Hashcode's AOSP 4.3 ROM, it always seemed much smoother to me than CM ROMs for that device.
Edit: Here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377629
hullflyer said:
Hi everyone, first time poster, though I have used the forums for a while. Apologies if this isn't the place for this question, but I couldn't find a better spot. I rooted my first-generation Fire (remember those?) a while ago and installed CM10 to get a more up-to-date version of Android than what came with the Fire, but the hardware is a little too old to run it well (just starting the Kindle book app can take close to a minute). I want to get the newest Fire 7 and put CM on it, and I was wondering how it compares with other "budget" tablets currently available, such as the Nexus 7, Zenpad S 8.0, or Galaxy Tab. Does it run comparably well, or is it really "bogged down"?
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It does the job, it's been quite fun to mess around with if they were the same price I'd go with the Nexus 7 despite the lack of sd but given it was less than a third of the price I could get an N7 for it's a bargain.
Galaxy tabs do feel bogged down to me, feel sluggish whenever I use my parents but suspect screen is noticeably better on those and the zenpad which I've never seen anywhere.
Thanks so much for the advice, both of you. I got a new Fire, put CM 12.1 on it (thanks to these forums, I knew to check the version before letting it on the wifi, and was able to prevent it from updating to 5.1.1) , and it is running great. I think I already tried Hashcode's AOSP 4.3, Duchman, and wasn't able to use it well (same issue - incredible slowness), but I might take another crack at it now that I have the new Fire.