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So I just got my Nexus One a couple of days ago. In most ways it's a great device. The screen is amazing and multitasking with IM and apps like Pandora and Rhapsody is a nice change.
However...none of this is all that great if it doesn't work very well as a phone! I live in Brooklyn, in an area marked on the T-mobile map as "Best 3g coverage". I've found that I get almost full signal with T-Mobile 3g if it's sitting on my desk in it's dock (and speed test at about 2mbit). As soon as I hold the phone in my hand (especially if my hand is on the bottom of the phone), the signal drops away by at least two bars, if not completely - dropping the data connection back to edge. If I walk about 15 feet away from the window and into my apartment, I often lose connection altogether.
If I put my T-mobile sim into my unlocked iPhone I get a steady 2-3 bars with EDGE throughout the entire apartment.
HTC are sending me a replacement Nexus and it should get here today or tomorrow.
My question is, should I expect an improvement with the new unit? How many of you are experiencing problems with the device in terms of 3g and general signal stability? Do you notice significant signal drop offs when holding the phone as opposed to having it docked or on a desk?
It's definitely a bit of a dealbreaker for me, and the problem seems way too widespread to just be a problem with my unit. Just wondering what the general experience is here?
Thanks.
By cupping my hands around the phone I can consistently lose one bar and regain it by letting go. This is while it's sitting flat on the table or by standing it up and holding it at the top with one finger.
You arent the only one having this issue, i am as well as many others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/...t-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/1#c25420883
gkaugustine said:
You arent the only one having this issue, i am as well as many others.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/...t-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/1#c25420883
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yep. same **** happens to me when i hold my phone normally at the bottom.
Yup, even after the recent OTA update, it's been noted (on engadget as well) about how cupping the unit drops the signal strength.
There's hope this is a software patch fix, but it's looking like a hardware limitation.
Also voice your concerns here...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=0c0fb2a46ad64955&hl=en
The more complaints they get, the more public it gets...the better chance we have of getting the issue fixed.
It's also has been noted over at tmonews...more exposure the better!
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/02/nexus-one-3g-woes-part-315/
I have the same problem with my phone. It'll have 2-3 bars 3G while the phone is on my desk but drop to Edge whenever I use it to make a phone call or browse the internet. I called HTC about it and they're sending me a new phone, I'm hoping it was just a bad batch because not everone is experience this problem.
3G/UMTS/HSDPA flip to EDGE
In an area with maximum T-Mobile 3G coverage (as indicated by their map), I get:
* phone on the desk: 4 bars, HSDPA, -79..-81dBm 16..17 asu
* cradling the bottom of the phone: 3 bars, HSDPA, -97..-93 dBm, 8..10 asu
* cradling the top of the phone: 4 bars, HSDPA, -71dBm 21 asu
The phone is running CyanogenMod 5.0.2, which includes Google's OTA update that purportedly fixed the 3G issue.
It could be an issue with the antenna placement. A similar thing happens on my old GPRS 1G Nokia phone (that I have to use currently, my MT3g was stolen, bleh): when I hold it from the top, it drops from a full 7/7 bars to 1/7 bars, and when I hold it from the bottom, it jumps to 7/7 bars again. My guess is that the Nexus One has the antenna on the bottom, which is where it is most commonly held, so it loses 3G signal easily, leading more people to notice a problem.
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My guess is that the Nexus One has the antenna on the bottom, which is where it is most commonly held, so it loses 3G signal easily, leading more people to notice a problem.
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The Nexus antenna is on the bottom and has been noted as an issue on some other threads.
Doctor. my arm hurts when i do this.....^^^^^<<<<>>>>>
then dont
I hope iphone 4 complainers don't see this thread
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
ablation said:
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
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Don't worry since this is an old thread from last February!
ablation said:
iPhone 4 is getting a lot of flack for exactly the same issue right now. the exact same thing with the N1 just isn't reported.
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This issue was all over the media, when it was news that is.
I am getting the same issue on the Nexus One which I bought yesterday brand new on eBay.. and I switched away from my iPhone 4 (which I still have, just inside the box) because of this.
I just spread my pinky and ring finger apart to expose the Bottom part of the phone right where the word HTC is located. Leaving this part slightly exposed clears up the issue no problem and reduces the signal attenuation caused by the hand.
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
1) Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
2) Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
3) Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
4) When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
5) When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
6) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
7) I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
faraz1992 said:
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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I dont have a single one of these issues. I guess it depends just how much of a complainer you want to be. It's like complaining about a laptop you have without keeping things in perspective such as 10 years ago DESKTOP's were the rage. The person should calm down with the complaining and enjoy the phone...
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
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Talk about a deal breaker *sigh*
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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You should totally add those to their comments.
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I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.
ryscar said:
My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.
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Yep same here, that's the only 'Issue' I have. If that's the worst thing I've to deal with I'll be a happy man
DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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LoL this made my day
23. Name doesn't begin with the letter "i".
1) 3G connectivity issue
It was patched with Update1
2) Touch Screen unresponsiveness/sensing incorrect input
It happens occasionally, but can be fixed by turning the screen off then back on
3) unresponsive trackball
Haven't had this at all
4) WIFI connectivity issue
Some times it doesn't reconnect to wifi automatically
5) Lock button response issue
Haven't had this.
6) Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
Haven't had issues with this
7) Ambient light sensor issue
Haven't had any issues
8)bluetooth issues: fails to operate; inadequate volume; intermittent failure to accept commands
Haven't had this at all. Working beautifully for me.
9) speaker: horrible sound quality
Ha. Compared to 5.1 speakers maybe
10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
11) earpiece: insufficient volume
See answer to number 10
12) headset connector: headphones cord activates pause or other functions
I've only seen this happen with Pandora, but recently stopped doing this.
13) manufacturer says phone cannot go in pocket
Every manufacturer says you shouldnt put your phone in your pocket. This doesn't stop people from doing it. I keep mine in my pocket, (Always comes out nice and shiny. Go go Pocket Cleaner)
14) Phone mutes when calling people and can only be unmuted by turning mute on then off!
WTF... Haven't heard of this.
15) missed call notification trackball does not flash
Works great for me.
Someone really doesn't like Android. When you don't understand something, just hate on it right?
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10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
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hahahahha
I noticed that people with android phones in general are far more happy and optimistic than any WM owners I've seen so far.. Maybe I'm just imagining thou =)
Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.
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Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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Bull**t
#teamAndroid
Totally agree with others who say they have none of the described issues.
Bad batch? REALLY?
DMaverick50 said:
Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.
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I agree...
Well don't be so quick to dismiss the frustrated users. Some of the things on that list is petty although somewhat accurate i guess, speaker could be louder. I've also had an issue with cradling the phone against my shoulder as that seems to affect the quality of my voice and people complain i sound like i'm "in a tunnel" or far away. I'm guessing something with the noise canceling mic.
I've had the data connection issues which seems to just be a cell radio issue, probably hardware based with my replacement phone at least. I had my old phone replaced because it just did not want to connect via data or whatever for 5-20 seconds all the way up to 2 or 3 minutes. The up arrow on the 3g without any data coming back down issue. Whenever I did a speed test.. upload sometimes would be horrible and it would be really choppy (doing the speedtest.net one) compared to the download. By choppy i mean the meter would jump to different values (it wasn't smooth and consistent like the download) and sometimes it would just stop as would the data indicator lights. It was always around 100-500 kbps averaging around 300. Same behavior for both the original and the RMA.
With the replacement one that i've had for a couple of weeks that issue turned into a much larger one. It started when I wasn't able to make outbound calls so i turned off my phone and turned it back on again to get the x with four blank bars at the top. Re-registered on the network... seemed to work ok for awhile. Then the same thing but started getting a "sim card isn't valid for this network" error when trying to re-register my phone after again starting to randomly show me an x with 4 blank bars at the top. Hard resetting and soft resetting didn't fix it. Sometimes it'd give me an error even searching for them. When i first got the problem it was brief.. but i figured i should get my sim card replaced. So i did. 3-4 days later I wasn't able to get it to work for almost 3 hours.. on my way to the tmobile store it just went from x with 4 bars to 4 full bars and then finally the 3g indicator to the left of that came on. Turned around cause I really didn't have the time to figure out what it was about at that moment. Data worked, could make a phone call. Next day it just got worse to the point now where it wont' search for a network sometimes.. gives me an error after sometime.. and definitely won't register on the network. I also had airplane mode turned on automatically after a soft reset (despite it showing an x and 4 bars and not an airplane)wasn't able to turn it off via the android menu settings. Had to go into the service menu and press turn radio on button.
WIFI still works however.. but that's a separate chip from the cell radio chip and its has just wifi/bluetooth on it so that makes sense.
I've had tmobile double and tripple check everything, network cancellation, sim replacement, check the towers nearby, make sure my plan is setup correctly for my phone. I'm going with poor build quality on some of these and bad quality checking... I guess time will tell. Getting my swap on monday... car dock arrived today and is just sitting on my desk.
3G connection
I have had my Nexus One for a week now...... My area has only had T-Mobile 3G coverage for about a month... At the T-Mobile store all their phones have full 3G service and my Nexus was on Edge only... The HD2 Demo in the store had full bars of 3G and my phone was just pushing out Edge... It flipped to 1 and 2 bars of 3G a couple of times but reverted back to Edge... At home I can set it on my desk or coffee table and set up the screen to stay on for 30 minutes and with out moving the phone watch it flip between 3 bars of 3G to 4 bars of Edge and it does this constantly... Even if I go outside and in my yard set it down and just watch it switch back and forth between Edge and 3G.... The girl next door has the My Touch 3G and she has full 3G service on her phone it never flips between Edge and 3G but the Nexus One does... The day I got it and hooked it up the phone rebooted and loaded the latest firmware and it did this twice.. if I look for manual updates for the phone it says it has the latest software. have not had any of the other issues being posted on here. I have followed some suggestions to go to the settings, networks, mobile networks, network operators and then select automatically (Which was a fix I read about from another post) still no help.. Still flips back and forth between edge and 3G.... How can another phone (The HD2 which I purchased and returned after a week... Windows Mobile is horrible even with sense layered over it) have no problem keeping a 3G signal but the Nexus one continues to drop the signal? Not sure if maybe I got a bad unit and it needs to be exchanged???? Any suggestions on the 3G problem? other than that the phone has been amazing.. I love the stock android 2.1 OS.... the Camera is pretty awesome for a phone...
@Robbie317 Post on the nexus one forums and call them up as well and tell them exactly what you posted here. Personally I'd recommend against an RMA until another update comes back cause who knows what issues the next one can give you if you do a swap... and unless you can wait 1-2 weeks for the same phone to come back to you from a repair I'd wait it out for and update and just ***** on the nexus one tech support forums and calling them. Say what you said here. Hell call them in the store at t-mobile. Take a picture of your bars on your phone next to an HD2. I think its important to get the point across to them as clearly as possible. I'm sure they're aware of most of these issues though.
Also it seems my phone is working again now.. weird and annoying stuff. I filed an FTC complain. Might seem excessive but I looked over those support forums alot today. This is not an isolated issue that is just affecting a small minority of phones that slipped passed quality control. It's also not an issue with t-mobile because they are people who are complaining about the same issues I've had (that got worse over the last 2 weeks) and have AT&T. RYGUY asked for more info in one post to look into the issues being reported so I'm glad they're doing *something* but its definitely not enough. I'm just hoping its not a hardware or design defect in the phone.
pink/red tint in photos is fixed in Cyanogen's 5.0.6
DarkDvr said:
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21) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
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This is the main reason I'm returning mine.
I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?
I, too, have the same issue with GPS. I use SportyPal Pro, and cannot use my Droid 3 when running/walking. I can go for a 5 mile run, and SportyPal will show I had ran 6 miles. I can run north to south in a straight line, and when finished, SportyPal will show that I went east and west as much as 400-500 feet off of that straight line and because of that can add anywhere from .1 miles to .5 miles to that 1 mile run.
It is so unreliable that I will use my older decommisioned Droid2 to run with. It works perfectly with the same software.
If anybody has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
bishop0114 said:
I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?
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Sadly, I have the same issues.
Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?
bishop0114 said:
Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?
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God, I hope not. I have enough problems with this phone as it is.
No problems with GPS for me
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium
kshen1 said:
No problems with GPS for me
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium
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Are you using it for navigation only? Or a similar application for running/walking?
The reason I ask is because I do not notice a problem during navigation. It works great for that without any problems. Until I get to downtown Chicago. I almost expect problems there. Even with my Droid2.
i've only had issues with my gps in areas with lte. when im at college im in a city with lte support and my gps doesn't work (my friend who has an X also has issues with his gps when in areas with lte). when im home where there isnt lte support my gps works fine.
No it's not hardware mine works flawlessly and almost instantly fixes position, tho i have modded the gps.conf found in the etc folder. Details for tweaking this for your region can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13537801&postcount=1
Many thanx to 75markus for this.
Since we don't have a recovery yet to flash a zip you will need to edit the gps.conf file manually.
Oceanic region can be found in my sig below apart of my camera mod.
-smc
The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
-SR-
I'm not having any GPS issues on my phone. Perhaps it's based on the area your in?
I know it's satellite but.. just a guess.
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The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
-SR-
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I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.
a_lazy_dude said:
I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.
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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.
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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.
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Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.
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Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.
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I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.
eallison978 said:
I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.
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WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.
I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...
bishop0114 said:
WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.
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With that kind of change in accuracy, it seems like it isn't using the GPS as all, but just the cell towers. Is the GPS logo showing in the notification bar when that is happening? If it's there, is it blinking or solid?
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I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...
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My humble opinion of VZW representatives...they're all full of BS. They're going to tell you what they need to tell you to get your out of the store or off of the phone if you're not buying anything. A representative's main concern is sales. Sell him another phone, renew his contract, add a line, add a feature.
This issue may be better addressed to Motorola directly. I may make that phone call today.
I just got off the phone with Motorola tech support. Same story as VZW gives. There are NO known issues with the Droid 3. I asked about the GPS, the bluish pics the cam takes and battery life. The only thing the tech would say is the phone "needs to be evaluated"
I have the Galaxy S6 ATT with 128 mb. Running stock, rooted, lollipop5.02. Have had it less than two weeks.
Two issues are becoming major. First, the HEAT. This phone gets hotter than any phone I have every had. Sometimes, almost to the point that it is untouchable. I have tried to discern what apps, if any, might be causing this behavior, but without success. The heat seems to come and go relatively randomly; that is, if I set it down for 15 minutes, it will have cooled off and I might not experience the same thing until tomorrow.
Second, and this is equally bothersome. Sometimes when the phone has been on for awhile, and especially if it has gotten warm as described above, the Edge just goes crazy. Pages opening and closing, sliding in and out, keyboard is taken over and types random latters, frequently sending them out in texts. (I've sent many texts that are quite lucid at the beginning, and look like I'm plastered at the end.) Again, a look at 3C Toolbox doesn't show any particular app overutilizing the CPU or anything else that would be apparent to a relative novice like me.
Anyone else experienced this? It's one of those things that is going to be difficult to demonstrate unless it happens when I am right near an ATT store. Any advice will be so much appreciated.
Robert
I've had one of these too on my ATT S6 edge. It's often called "touchscreen ghosting" across different devices that have it. I used to have the OnePlus One which was plagued with these touchscreen ghosting problems. It's exacerbated in high heat environment. You'll find that putting it in the fridge for some time resolves the symptoms immediately. I'd hold out 'til winter and hope they subside on their own.
i was having similar issues. removing my tempered glass helped. im starting to hate this phone. My battery was 66% an hour and a half after i left house today with a full charge. MY gps doesnt ever connect correctly. When using navigation it jumps around and re-routes me constantly. I can't wait to get a nexus 5x and get rid of this junk.
I'm dropping this phone for the Nexus 5x also. I learned my lesson dealing with these phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6-edge/help/screen-bright-spot-t3209518
Hey, got a question for those that exercise, or work out using their Galaxy Watch 3. Specifically, walking, but also running, treadmills,etc.
Do you see a dropping of your heart rate data at random times during your activity? Heart rate data appears perfect during the day, but will drop randomly during a walk, or treadmill activity.* This has happened both times I've tried the activities, I've only had the watch 3 days.
Anyone found a fix?
Can't speak for running, but for brisk walking the heart rate monitoring has been very good and consistent for me (within 1-2 of a chest strap monitor average after an hour).
It needs to be snug, not tight (it should not be able to slide around on your wrist in any direction). And should be above the orbital bone on your wrist.
Beretta143 said:
Hey, got a question for those that exercise, or work out using their Galaxy Watch 3. Specifically, walking, but also running, treadmills,etc.
Do you see a dropping of your heart rate data at random times during your activity? Heart rate data appears perfect during the day, but will drop randomly during a walk, or treadmill activity.* This has happened both times I've tried the activities, I've only had the watch 3 days.
Anyone found a fix?
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I have the same problem when in cycling mode :/ At first i thought it was related to tightness of the strap or placement, but no matter how tight or loose it is, it drops, and seems to come back by random seconds or minutes after i notice it has gone.... Seems to only be in exercise mode, as i've never caught it doing it otherwise (i have continuous monitoring enabled)
In any case, the heart sensor really stops working at times during physical activities, especially running. And even at times during the day in a normal situation it stops working.
In any case I did not have this kind of problem with my Galaxy watch active 2.
I hope there will be an update soon.
To elaborate: This happened again for me today, and i took off the watch and could see the green sensor light still going.... tried to clean it and put it back on, but no success.... after ~10 minutes more on my bike, it "magically" started registering HR again.... Very weird.... Hope it is SW and not HW related though
At times I have the same problem with the heart sensor. In any case, it's very frustrating for a watch that calls itself sports / Fitness.
Well i found out that if i move the watch on my wrist during ECG, it ends with "Atrial fibrillation" and the curve looks like garbage
If i have the watch tight on the wrist, it ends sinusal and regular, clean...
So i'd guess that the drops might come from the watch not being secured enough on the wrist. Just tighten it very well before walk/run.
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Well i found out that if i move the watch on my wrist during ECG, it ends with "Atrial fibrillation" and the curve looks like garbage
If i have the watch tight on the wrist, it ends sinusal and regular, clean...
So i'd guess that the drops might come from the watch not being secured enough on the wrist. Just tighten it very well before walk/run.
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That was my first thought as well. But it behaves the same way when tightened everywhere from "comfortably loose" to "i think i cut off blood circulation to my hand" :/
early firmware issues perhaps? did you reboot the watch (pressing the bottom button until you see "rebooting" on the display)?
if you experienced better results from older galaxy watches then give the firmware some time to mature.
i use my elliptical daily and whilst i don't like to have a watch on my arm , i left it on to test the auto exercise feature. it picked up i was using an elliptical and the stats/vitals all looked in line with what i expected -- so no dropouts in hr. ive the lte version.
If it's not firmware (and probably not - mine was great out of the box), then it's a hardware issue (wasn't there a clear film on the back of the watch - did you remove that?).
I have not tested running, but brisk walking, riding an exercise bike, and sleeping and all other times of the day the heart rate is spot on for me. It definitely doesn't "drop" and stop reading. If anything, it would just spit out an inaccurate reading for a bit during strenuous exercise.
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That was my first thought as well. But it behaves the same way when tightened everywhere from "comfortably loose" to "i think i cut off blood circulation to my hand" :/
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hi exactly the same i tightened the strap of the watch to have traces of it. And always inconsistencies with the heart sensor while running. In any case looking forward to having the next update.
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early firmware issues perhaps? did you reboot the watch (pressing the bottom button until you see "rebooting" on the display)?
if you experienced better results from older galaxy watches then give the firmware some time to mature.
i use my elliptical daily and whilst i don't like to have a watch on my arm , i left it on to test the auto exercise feature. it picked up i was using an elliptical and the stats/vitals all looked in line with what i expected -- so no dropouts in hr. ive the lte version.
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How long did you have it track your workout? It seems the problem usually first starts after x minutes, and from there on it seems (to me) completely random when it starts working again (during the workout). I think i will try to see if i can spot it doing it, stop the workout mode, and see if it does HR instantly in "non-workout-mode"... I encourage others to try this too to gather some data.
*edit*: Reboot have been tried to no effect right before workout, but not during (which also kinda defeats the point), and there is no film on the watch.
Looking around, i found this thead about a similar problem one of the older watches: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Watch/Galaxy-watch-heart-rate-sensor/td-p/389847/page/7
Going to try out some of the things: 1st: turning off diagnostics. Will keep you in the loop. *edit*: Nope didn't work.
Next: Turning off always on NR monitoring. *edit*: Nope!
Third: Turning off sensor permits for power saving. *edit*: Nope, also didn't work.
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How long did you have it track your workout? It seems the problem usually first starts after x minutes, and from there on it seems (to me) completely random when it starts working again (during the workout). I think i will try to see if i can spot it doing it, stop the workout mode, and see if it does HR instantly in "non-workout-mode"... I encourage others to try this too to gather some data.
*edit*: Reboot have been tried to no effect right before workout, but not during (which also kinda defeats the point), and there is no film on the watch.
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I run errands and I always have the problems. The heart rate sensor stops at times .... And when it resumes it completely wrong. With very random measurements.
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I run errands and I always have the problems. The heart rate sensor stops at times .... And when it resumes it completely wrong. With very random measurements.
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My readings seems fine, once it, randomly, resumes. (Eg 140-160 when biking at a fast but not furious (hehe) pace)
Compared to the apple watch it's very finicky. I have to tighten the watch band ridiculously in order to get HR and ECG.
I think the Apple watch is a better overall product.
Update incoming: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R855F/TGY/doc.html Hope this is what we're looking for.... (Not out in NEE region yet though)
Epedemic said:
Update incoming: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R855F/TGY/doc.html Hope this is what we're looking for.... (Not out in NEE region yet though)
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Very good news.