I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
I’m curious too.
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No dual sim for US peeps. I hate it and do not understand why we can't have it.
fireguy0306 said:
I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
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Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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force70 said:
Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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Are you saying even the carrier unlocked us one won't have dual-sim... Damn
The color release is marketing and demand...they want to control the initial release. Sectioning colors to regions makes it easier to release...shortly after the high-demand release, we will probably see the other colors introduced. They have done this before with other devices. Sucks for those wanting to take advantage of pre-order deals. I wanted the deep blue but since it's going in a case, I got black and bought blue cases.
They don't sell dual in the US due to carrier pressure. Although slightly less so than a few years ago the vast majority of US phone sales are through carriers giving them the power to dictate product to some extent.
The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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force70 said:
Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Though I cannot say one way or the other that the Best Buy site has its description correct... been burned a few times relying on that data.
A chat with Samsung online states no dual Sim for US unlocked phones.
Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.
Info: You are now chatting with Srilatha R.
Srilatha R: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
You: Hi, I'm interested in purchasing your Note 8. I am considering the unlocked version as I have lines with Sprint and Verizon. Will the US version of the unlocked phone offer dual SIM capability so that I can use one device for both carriers?
Srilatha R: No, US version phones are compatible with single sim feature
You: That's a shame but thank you for confirming. Is there any way to get a version that offers the dual sim capability?
Srilatha R: No, Due to product design of the phone all the US version samsung phones are compatible with only single sim
You: Got it. Thank you.
Srilatha R: But you can try with international version phones
You: How would I purchase an international version?
Srilatha R: You can purchase it from third party websites such as amazon
You: Ok, that makes sense. I owned the Note 7 and am eligible for the trade-in credit. How would I purchase through Amazon and then still get the credit?
Srilatha R: Well, if you choose to trade in then , that can only be done by Samsung.
Srilatha R: As trade in offer is not eligible for other stores or websites
You: Ok, thank you for your help today
Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
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browning said:
That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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That is my exact use case. Not really a fan of having to carry around two phones.
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That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
Cool Person said:
For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
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TL;DR - SM-N950UZKAXAA IS NOT DUAL SIM
Samsung Direct/USA or whatever you call it or whoever is being represented in Samsung.com/US has a listing during pre-ordering that the unlocked note 8 is dual sim. I even have a screenshot of that one.
However, same SKU - SM-N950UZKAXAA, is being sold in Best Buy. I did check both unlocked units in Black and Orchid Gray and as the store people have shown me, they aren't dual sim at all. Perhaps it was good riddance that the units are delayed in the shipping because I would be most likely returning that one eventually because there was some sort of deception on the item being sold. Now cancelled, perhaps I'll just get my Note 8 in few months time when the price is lower.
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Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!
Hi. If you purchase the phone through carphone warehouse the handset will not be locked.
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roryh86 said:
Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!
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You can flash any software for your variant on it. I think ee is the 910f so any rom from any carrier for the 910f will work but unfortunately it will be sim locked to ee and probably region locked to Europe. You can pay ee or an online website for the sim unlock code but unless you plan to use a different sim there's no point
Thanks! I'm actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..
roryh86 said:
Thanks! Im actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..
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Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon
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Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon
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I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742
roryh86 said:
I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742
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My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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If you bought it from Samsung it wont be locked.
ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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The phone will not be locked to the carriers frequency, as already posted sim free won't be sim locked and any sim locked phone can be unlocked for a small fee. What can't be changed is the phone hardware. Whatever bands the phone has can't be changed, there are several thread's stating what bands each model supports so just make sure to get a model that supports the bands your carrier uses
Just for the record things like tap to pay won't work on a unlocked phone. I had a S4 and a G3 all unlocked none work. My Z2 did and that was locked
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My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation
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Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
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dannysmith43 said:
Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
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I'm on a business tariff so it's a bit different. I got unlimited calls and texts plus 5gig data for £40 a month and free phone but I was due an upgrade
How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?
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How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?
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What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number
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What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number
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SM-N910F
daz_2000 said:
SM-N910F
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That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.
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That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.
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Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?
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Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?
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I haven't tried the Exynos. I have the 910F like you and its extremely fast. I suppose the Exynos is slightly faster but nothing to lose sleep over.
Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
I have the same question
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I have the same question
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i think this is the place to buy it. Since they will open it up and use one of their sims to make 5 minutes of calls before sending it to us, so it doesn't lock up once we get it.
Has anyone used 4g exclusively on verizon, what are the drawbacks?
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I dont think you will be able to use it to make phone calls or msg because verizon use a CDMA network for this and the exynos version doesnt have this. Just my guess.
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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That's not true at all, my Galaxy Tab S2 is an Exynos and runs on Verizon LTE., and the galaxy S6 was an Exynos 7420 on Verizon.
Oh I stand corrected. I knew the tablets were supported but figured since you don't make calls from them, it wouldn't need cdma. In either case, unless it's made for Verizon, the exynos versions won't natively support Verizon.
The FCC filing shows it support the Verizon LTE bands, but no CDMA bands.
It would probably work for data but I am not sure if it would work for calls, unless they implement VOLTE on the international version for Verizon.
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
Edit: looks like bhphoto added the model numbers for their preorders as "SM-G950F" and "SM-G955F", which is the same as the European/global GSM version. So that is Exynos chipset powered, and it's a no go for CDMA guys.
The plus on this model is it gets the software updates more quickly than the US unlocked model. (This is still speculation based on Samsung not updating SM-G930U to Android 7 for months while the SM-G930F and the US carrier models already received their updates.)
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Commodore 64 said:
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Sim unlocked at best buy will be out may 9th priced at 725/825
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
jucytec said:
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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Thanks for your help and concern. haha, i still don't want to be the first. I'm going to see what happens here before i get too serious about getting it. The risk in waiting is that the current unlocked bootloader method for the exynos may get patched. idk
Hi. Creating this thread to capture who is selling the dual SIM variant in the UK. The p20 pro and Mate 20 pro from memory dual SIM was only available from Three Mobile. (Maybe one other) but the majority of resellers were all single SIM.
I noticed the Samsung S10+ was dual SIM so maybe there is a chance in stance from carrier.
I'll add info here once I get it
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Just an FYI on this. I called EE to pre-order this phone yesterday and was advised by the sales person that it is indeed dual SIM. Obviously this doesn't mean that it is enabled from them. I will report back when it arrives.
The sales advisor did say that it would be SIM locked upon delivery and reminded me that - when on contract - the phone remains the property of EE for the first 6 months of the contract.
So Amazon UK has it for pre-order with delivery by April 6... was able to place an order here in the USA... Funny enough, Amazon France has it as well but won't... I'll see if they scrap my pre-order but in my recent experience with the Xiaomi Mi 9, if the order is in, it charges ok and then its golden... fingers cross. Should get it before April 9th!!!! Its dual sim... so I'm sure it is the dual sim version as well available to carriers
NJ72 said:
Just an FYI on this. I called EE to pre-order this phone yesterday and was advised by the sales person that it is indeed dual SIM. Obviously this doesn't mean that it is enabled from them. I will report back when it arrives.
The sales advisor did say that it would be SIM locked upon delivery and reminded me that - when on contract - the phone remains the property of EE for the first 6 months of the contract.
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Thanks. I'm hoping EE is dual SIM as I have an upgrade available. They also told me over the phone it is dual SIM. It will be locked. However you can pay a tenner and get it unlocked via eBay. I've done that many times without issue. Happy to share who I used it it's of interest.
Thanks for the offer.
I've got 2x EE Sims in the family so I can test the dual-sim functionality before trying to unlock it, but will certainly take you up on that if it works.
EE and Three will be selling the dual SIM model in the UK.
jonmorris said:
EE and Three will be selling the dual SIM model in the UK.
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Is there a source for this?
As I said above, I've been advised by EE that the phone I'm being sent is dual sim (but sim locked) however it would still be possible for them to disable this functionality through the software.
NJ72 said:
Is there a source for this?
As I said above, I've been advised by EE that the phone I'm being sent is dual sim (but sim locked) however it would still be possible for them to disable this functionality through the software.
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I was told on the Huawei press trip that it was just Three doing the dual SIM model in the UK, but subsequently discovered EE was selling it too. I hadn't considered that it could be software locked, so that is a possibility. I do recall that there are ways to unlock the restriction, but don't know the exact process.
If EE is doing this, I'd assume every network is doing it the same way and perhaps all the devices are the same. But they should be stating they are single SIM clearly, even if technically they aren't.
Well, I was speaking to a sales person who said it was dual sim, so that's why I'm reserving judgement. I need dual sim because I have a work phone and can't be bothered carrying 2 mobiles around with me.
Ultimately they phone is dual sim, it's just whether the functionality is enabled - which I'm waiting to find out Mine arrives a week today so will obviously post up and let people know the results.
I've also heard from EE on twitter it will be dual SIM.
Three phones come unlocked. My P20 Pro was dual SIM and unlocked direct from Three last year as well.
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daz_2000 said:
Thanks. I'm hoping EE is dual SIM as I have an upgrade available. They also told me over the phone it is dual SIM. It will be locked. However you can pay a tenner and get it unlocked via eBay. I've done that many times without issue. Happy to share who I used it it's of interest.
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Just a word of caution as EE phones can only be unlocked after 6 months this includes EBay unless things have changed over the past 6 months
addicted2phones said:
Just a word of caution as EE phones can only be unlocked after 6 months this includes EBay unless things have changed over the past 6 months
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I recently had the Samsung S10+ from EE which was dual SIM and locked to EE. I unlocked via eBay fine
daz_2000 said:
I recently had the Samsung S10+ from EE which was dual SIM and locked to EE. I unlocked via eBay fine
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Happy days glad EE devices are easier to unlock now.
Can confirm that EE devices are dual sim in the UK if acquired direct from EE
Not unlocked it yet, but have all the dual sim settings and it worked with 2x different EE sims concurrently on my device
EDIT: If anyone can point out a working unlock provider that would be helpful please
Anyone tried Vodafone?
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Guys please be carefull of amazon order it states "dual sim" but it arrived today and is a VOG-L09 single sim model...
Not good as Im now likely to loose the sonos pre order gift....
MAX_G said:
Guys please be carefull of amazon order it states "dual sim" but it arrived today and is a VOG-L09 single sim model...
Not good as Im now likely to loose the sonos pre order gift....
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Not good news at all. I ordered mine from Amazon as well. It does say that is the single sim version right on the Amazon website. My order says different. Fingers crossed that I get the right one.
My Amazon UK was meant to be dual sim. Its not, single sim arrived. Waiting to hear back from Amazon as to what they might be able to do. A mess sadly.
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My Amazon UK was meant to be dual sim. Its not, single sim arrived. Waiting to hear back from Amazon as to what they might be able to do. A mess sadly.
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2 VOG-L09's delivered not looking good for me.
Is there a Dual SIM Snapdragon S21 Ultra model? If yes, what’s the model number?
The specs at GSMArena say:
Single SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM) or Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM, dual stand-by)
So it looks like at least one of the models is dual sim (and it's mentioned in the description on the Samsung website) - but there's no indication which model it might be.
Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out
HK unit should have dual sim according to my supplier.
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Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out
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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?
China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim
prodigiez said:
China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim
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If I buy it in the US, will it change my updates from Samsung?
Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
prodigiez said:
Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Why? What's bad about it?
It doesn't have software updates at the same rate?
I wonder if local COVID tracking support is present?
Yes. Hongkong version always release with dual sim snapdragon
Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G SM-G9980: https://samfw.com/firmware/SM-G9980
Yes, it supports dual sim
The Hong Kong variant has Dual Physical SIM's but no E-Sim. Regardless of which country you use it in you'll get timely updates as they are provided by Samsung, not your local service provider.
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Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.
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Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.
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What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.
In India we have the dual sim exynos variant (Sim1 - PHY, Sim2 - PHY or esim) if you put in a physical Sim in the 2nd Sim position then esim gets disabled. If you use esim then the 2nd Sim is disabled.
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What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.
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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!
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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?
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from what I can gather, after a LOT of trying . . . there is no dual sim US version samsung phone. This from a lot of searching and phone conversations with several tech and sales personnel on the phone with Samsung. For this reason, I bought a non US version which broke the Samsung Health Monitor app and does not work for 5G within the USA. other than that it seems to be behaving nicely on the Tmobile US based network.
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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!
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Ive tried that solution and its a lot more problematic than it might seem. I need the extra sim because I travel overseas and my US carrier starts complaining when my roaming data goes large (even tho they advertise "unlimited"). that means i would need to remember to turn off mobile data everytime i change the card. also the tool gets lost and bent and you can actually bend or break those sim trays after a lot of changing . . . not to mention losing sim cards on a bumpy train or taxi. I hate to invoke Murphy, but you can be assured that when a super important call is trying to come in it will not be on the line associated with the sim card currently installed. Sim swapping can also cause minor problems with messaging apps like whatsapp and telegram that could be a whole new thread. The only real viable solution for a frequent traveler is a dual sim phone with sim 2 used for mobile data in the locale physically present in. Second to that is carrying two phones. Least desireable (at least for me) is frequent sim swapping. That's my experience and humble opinion after years of very heavy international travel.
SM-G9980 has dual SIM fully working. I know for a fact because that's the version I have. }
I'm from Chile and the phone does everything I want it to do.
I have the 9980. It is fully dual sim but does not do 5G in the US. Occasionally I don't get data in some places in the US even when I have 5 bars. I'm guessing there are other bands this device misses. But that's rare. Everything is a compromise in life!
One good piece of news is that the T-MOBILE NOTE20 ULTRA now has it's esim activated. So if you are predominantly in the US this is the combo you need as it's dual sim and 5G in the US. The hope is that they do this with more devices including the s21.
Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?
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Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?
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Verizon is pretty easy although you might need to call for a scan code. But that takes all of 5 minutes. Not sure about TM but I heard it was just as easy. I've been doing this for a couple of years now, first with Fi and Verizon (physical sim) and then I got rid of Fi and went with both lines on Verizon. One on the eSim and the other physical sim.
You need to select one sim for data. You can change it rather easily in network settings. Calls and text can default to one or select each time which I find to be a pain. Depends on your situation though.
@DrWowe Just a little update. The Pixel 5 is out of stock at the Google store and probably won't be coming back. That leaves Amazon or other 3rd party sellers. With that in mind be careful about which version you buy meaning it needs to be carrier unlocked. If you are thinking of rooting you need to be doubly careful. Or.. you can wait for the P6 and buy directly from Google. Whichever you choose good luck.
Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.
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Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.
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I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents
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I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents
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We are really in a bind here if you want a smaller device. On Swappa there are zero P5 new or mint for sale. Even very limited stock at Amazon and you'd have to have your head examined to buy off Ebay. There are none available there either that are US versions unlocked. These are becoming a collectors item and as such will probably go for a pretty penny if we can keep them in decent condition. The only premium device I can find under 6.3" is the iPhone 13 at 6.1. This is not good.