Hi. Creating this thread to capture who is selling the dual SIM variant in the UK. The p20 pro and Mate 20 pro from memory dual SIM was only available from Three Mobile. (Maybe one other) but the majority of resellers were all single SIM.
I noticed the Samsung S10+ was dual SIM so maybe there is a chance in stance from carrier.
I'll add info here once I get it
EE
Just an FYI on this. I called EE to pre-order this phone yesterday and was advised by the sales person that it is indeed dual SIM. Obviously this doesn't mean that it is enabled from them. I will report back when it arrives.
The sales advisor did say that it would be SIM locked upon delivery and reminded me that - when on contract - the phone remains the property of EE for the first 6 months of the contract.
So Amazon UK has it for pre-order with delivery by April 6... was able to place an order here in the USA... Funny enough, Amazon France has it as well but won't... I'll see if they scrap my pre-order but in my recent experience with the Xiaomi Mi 9, if the order is in, it charges ok and then its golden... fingers cross. Should get it before April 9th!!!! Its dual sim... so I'm sure it is the dual sim version as well available to carriers
NJ72 said:
Just an FYI on this. I called EE to pre-order this phone yesterday and was advised by the sales person that it is indeed dual SIM. Obviously this doesn't mean that it is enabled from them. I will report back when it arrives.
The sales advisor did say that it would be SIM locked upon delivery and reminded me that - when on contract - the phone remains the property of EE for the first 6 months of the contract.
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Thanks. I'm hoping EE is dual SIM as I have an upgrade available. They also told me over the phone it is dual SIM. It will be locked. However you can pay a tenner and get it unlocked via eBay. I've done that many times without issue. Happy to share who I used it it's of interest.
Thanks for the offer.
I've got 2x EE Sims in the family so I can test the dual-sim functionality before trying to unlock it, but will certainly take you up on that if it works.
EE and Three will be selling the dual SIM model in the UK.
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EE and Three will be selling the dual SIM model in the UK.
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Is there a source for this?
As I said above, I've been advised by EE that the phone I'm being sent is dual sim (but sim locked) however it would still be possible for them to disable this functionality through the software.
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Is there a source for this?
As I said above, I've been advised by EE that the phone I'm being sent is dual sim (but sim locked) however it would still be possible for them to disable this functionality through the software.
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I was told on the Huawei press trip that it was just Three doing the dual SIM model in the UK, but subsequently discovered EE was selling it too. I hadn't considered that it could be software locked, so that is a possibility. I do recall that there are ways to unlock the restriction, but don't know the exact process.
If EE is doing this, I'd assume every network is doing it the same way and perhaps all the devices are the same. But they should be stating they are single SIM clearly, even if technically they aren't.
Well, I was speaking to a sales person who said it was dual sim, so that's why I'm reserving judgement. I need dual sim because I have a work phone and can't be bothered carrying 2 mobiles around with me.
Ultimately they phone is dual sim, it's just whether the functionality is enabled - which I'm waiting to find out Mine arrives a week today so will obviously post up and let people know the results.
I've also heard from EE on twitter it will be dual SIM.
Three phones come unlocked. My P20 Pro was dual SIM and unlocked direct from Three last year as well.
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daz_2000 said:
Thanks. I'm hoping EE is dual SIM as I have an upgrade available. They also told me over the phone it is dual SIM. It will be locked. However you can pay a tenner and get it unlocked via eBay. I've done that many times without issue. Happy to share who I used it it's of interest.
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Just a word of caution as EE phones can only be unlocked after 6 months this includes EBay unless things have changed over the past 6 months
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Just a word of caution as EE phones can only be unlocked after 6 months this includes EBay unless things have changed over the past 6 months
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I recently had the Samsung S10+ from EE which was dual SIM and locked to EE. I unlocked via eBay fine
daz_2000 said:
I recently had the Samsung S10+ from EE which was dual SIM and locked to EE. I unlocked via eBay fine
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Happy days glad EE devices are easier to unlock now.
Can confirm that EE devices are dual sim in the UK if acquired direct from EE
Not unlocked it yet, but have all the dual sim settings and it worked with 2x different EE sims concurrently on my device
EDIT: If anyone can point out a working unlock provider that would be helpful please
Anyone tried Vodafone?
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Amozon description wrong
Guys please be carefull of amazon order it states "dual sim" but it arrived today and is a VOG-L09 single sim model...
Not good as Im now likely to loose the sonos pre order gift....
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Guys please be carefull of amazon order it states "dual sim" but it arrived today and is a VOG-L09 single sim model...
Not good as Im now likely to loose the sonos pre order gift....
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Not good news at all. I ordered mine from Amazon as well. It does say that is the single sim version right on the Amazon website. My order says different. Fingers crossed that I get the right one.
My Amazon UK was meant to be dual sim. Its not, single sim arrived. Waiting to hear back from Amazon as to what they might be able to do. A mess sadly.
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My Amazon UK was meant to be dual sim. Its not, single sim arrived. Waiting to hear back from Amazon as to what they might be able to do. A mess sadly.
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2 VOG-L09's delivered not looking good for me.
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I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
I’m curious too.
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No dual sim for US peeps. I hate it and do not understand why we can't have it.
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I know it's really early but i figured i'd put it out there.
Anybody know if the US Carrier's will allow and support Dual-Sim in their versions? I ask because i was hoping to use ATT's version to keep their Wifi Calling, HDVoice, etc as well as use Dual-Sim so i don't have to carry two phones around for work and personal.
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Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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force70 said:
Nope, if you want dual sim you have to buy exynos.
I dont get it either why they dont make dual sim models for north america.
I also dont get why F### they cant launch all the colours here either...
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Are you saying even the carrier unlocked us one won't have dual-sim... Damn
The color release is marketing and demand...they want to control the initial release. Sectioning colors to regions makes it easier to release...shortly after the high-demand release, we will probably see the other colors introduced. They have done this before with other devices. Sucks for those wanting to take advantage of pre-order deals. I wanted the deep blue but since it's going in a case, I got black and bought blue cases.
They don't sell dual in the US due to carrier pressure. Although slightly less so than a few years ago the vast majority of US phone sales are through carriers giving them the power to dictate product to some extent.
The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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The U.S. Samsung web site is allowing pre-order of an unlocked variant; SM-N950UZVAXAA. The Best Buy web site shows this as a Snapdragon, dual-sim:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...D=1&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-05QPqugkIIKu.GTfe_wiOQ
I have asked Samsung support for verification as I need unlocked, dual sim.
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Sorry maybe im just blind but i dont see where it states dual sim there? Ive never seen a snap dual sim sammy device...at least not in the last 3 years anyway...
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Though I cannot say one way or the other that the Best Buy site has its description correct... been burned a few times relying on that data.
A chat with Samsung online states no dual Sim for US unlocked phones.
Info: Thank you for choosing to chat with us. An agent will be with you shortly.
Info: You are now chatting with Srilatha R.
Srilatha R: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
You: Hi, I'm interested in purchasing your Note 8. I am considering the unlocked version as I have lines with Sprint and Verizon. Will the US version of the unlocked phone offer dual SIM capability so that I can use one device for both carriers?
Srilatha R: No, US version phones are compatible with single sim feature
You: That's a shame but thank you for confirming. Is there any way to get a version that offers the dual sim capability?
Srilatha R: No, Due to product design of the phone all the US version samsung phones are compatible with only single sim
You: Got it. Thank you.
Srilatha R: But you can try with international version phones
You: How would I purchase an international version?
Srilatha R: You can purchase it from third party websites such as amazon
You: Ok, that makes sense. I owned the Note 7 and am eligible for the trade-in credit. How would I purchase through Amazon and then still get the credit?
Srilatha R: Well, if you choose to trade in then , that can only be done by Samsung.
Srilatha R: As trade in offer is not eligible for other stores or websites
You: Ok, thank you for your help today
Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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Why you want dual sim peopole.
Its hybrid which means your 200 gb sd card will not work with the second sim card. That is coming from a dual sim samsung user..
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That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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That is my exact use case. Not really a fan of having to carry around two phones.
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That's good to know. I didn't understand that to be the case - probably due to the desire to have one device that would support lines from two different carriers. That's a shame though - many of us have personal devices and work devices that would, in an ideal world, be combined into a single device with the majority of needs met.
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For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
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For average business user who do not need more than 64 gb of storage. The dual sim version will be a good choice.
Its hybrid sim thought meaning you chose either second sim or a an up to 256 gb sd card. You cannot use the 2nd sim with the sd card at same time.
You will have to order it from Amazon thought.
As a traveling person between 2 countries the dual sim is an advantage for me.
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TL;DR - SM-N950UZKAXAA IS NOT DUAL SIM
Samsung Direct/USA or whatever you call it or whoever is being represented in Samsung.com/US has a listing during pre-ordering that the unlocked note 8 is dual sim. I even have a screenshot of that one.
However, same SKU - SM-N950UZKAXAA, is being sold in Best Buy. I did check both unlocked units in Black and Orchid Gray and as the store people have shown me, they aren't dual sim at all. Perhaps it was good riddance that the units are delayed in the shipping because I would be most likely returning that one eventually because there was some sort of deception on the item being sold. Now cancelled, perhaps I'll just get my Note 8 in few months time when the price is lower.
are there any real differences between the dual sim and single sim? besides the obvious 2 sims vs 1 sim difference lol.
what about differences between the models (clt-al00, clt-l29, clt-l09, etc)? if it helps, I am in the USA and T-mobile. I am just trying to find the best one that covers most bands if not all and prefer dual sim. any advice and help is appreciated thank you in advance
Yes there is a difference.
The difference is one accepts one sim card and the other accepts two sim cards
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Yes there is a difference.
The difference is one accepts one sim card and the other accepts two sim cards
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Thank u for ur reply.. But I have already stated the obvious 2 sims and 1 SIM differences. Anything else besides that?
It might be possible that the only difference is the card slot. It might still work with 2 sim cards with the right sim card adapter for two sims. Afaik it worked for older models.
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Yes there is a difference.
The difference is one accepts one sim card and the other accepts two sim cards
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It might be possible that the only difference is the card slot. It might still work with 2 sim cards with the right sim card adapter for two sims. Afaik it worked for older models.
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Thank u.. Do u know if there's any difference from international and global? I'm trying to buy the p20 pro and I dont wanna end up buying one that doesnt work for my service provider in USA.
I have some relevant questions/thoughts on this. I noticed that some phones are listed as having band 41 and some are not (on eBay, varying model numbers of this phone). Now that T-Mobile might be roaming on Sprint and visa versa, band 41 does actually make a difference since the OP is using the phone on T-Mobile. Does anyone know if this is just a mistake on the listings? The official Huawei site lists band 40, but not band 41.
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I have some relevant questions/thoughts on this. I noticed that some phones are listed as having band 41 and some are not (on eBay, varying model numbers of this phone). Now that T-Mobile might be roaming on Sprint and visa versa, band 41 does actually make a difference since the OP is using the phone on T-Mobile. Does anyone know if this is just a mistake on the listings? The official Huawei site lists band 40, but not band 41.
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Band 41 is listed as well at least for some models. https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/6fe84965 another good site to see the difference between the different models is http://www.phonemore.com/huawei-p20-pro/models/1817 this one includes the different models, not all though as CLT-L04 is not included, and their specs including the bands for each of the different models. Some of them even support CDMA so in theory should be compatible with Verizon or Sprint.
I have CLT-L04
and i cant find any info about it!!!
Mine has Cat 16/ Cat 18, and it came with US charger, dual Sims and Google now. Model Number CLT-L29. Bought it from sobeonline1 on eBay. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn539su2m077hpu/Screenshot_20180516-125141.jpg?dl=0
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I have CLT-L04
and i cant find any info about it!!!
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CLT-L04 is intended for the Canadian market. L29 is not so it may not have the LTE capabilities in North America while L04 would.
I thought it wasn't for sale until today (the 17th).
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CLT-L04 is intended for the Canadian market. L29 is not so it may not have the LTE capabilities in North America while L04 would.
I thought it wasn't for sale until today (the 17th).
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Thanks fot the info!!!!
Just wondering will dual Sim adapter work with single Sim phone? No software that indicates any Sim settings
Single sim doesn't get updates.
I'd like to jump in here. I just got the CLT-L04 today. I just started working for a Canadian company this week and I will be stationed in the US in Atlanta. I want dual SIM capability so that I can keep my personal phone number but not have to carry 2 devices. he SIM card tray only came with the ability to support a singel SIM card. Can I just order a dual SIM card carrier? is there anything special I need to know or do on the phone to support dual SIM's?
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Single sim doesn't get updates.
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My single SIM CLT-L04 already got an update once. C792. Not carrier branded.
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I'd like to jump in here. I just got the CLT-L04 today. I just started working for a Canadian company this week and I will be stationed in the US in Atlanta. I want dual SIM capability so that I can keep my personal phone number but not have to carry 2 devices. he SIM card tray only came with the ability to support a singel SIM card. Can I just order a dual SIM card carrier? is there anything special I need to know or do on the phone to support dual SIM's?
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You need to convert your phone to dual SIM variant using paid software (which may require a bootloader unlock code that Huawei no longer provides) and then use a dual SIM tray.
I did the above and my single SIM phone is now a fully functioning dual SIM phone. There's really no difference between the two variants other than software and that tray. The tray alone will not work.
Hi all. My friend got a new P20 Pro, which he though was network unlocked but it isn't. Is it possible to unlock? Do the many unlock sites work with this phone? Any recommendations if so? Thanks!
I am also looking for a solution as I am due to travel to asia next month. Mine is locked to EE. I can carry two phones but I really wanna avoid this for safety reasons and also because when holidaying i'm always carrying other valuables like passports, cash, external battery bank, sunglasses etc etc.
subhani said:
I am also looking for a solution as I am due to travel to asia next month. Mine is locked to EE. I can carry two phones but I really wanna avoid this for safety reasons and also because when holidaying i'm always carrying other valuables like passports, cash, external battery bank, sunglasses etc etc.
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A network lock does not mean it cannot be used in another country, you can still travel else where and use the phone with locked network, well it's actually called SIM Lock not network lock, when SIM is locked it means it only accepts 1 provider to be used on the phone. But when you travel it can still borrow other networks systems so you will still be able to call and send sms and such as you can do now.
So let's say you live in UK and got provider called three and it's locked to three, then when you travel to asia it will automaticly borrow one of their network somehow but it will etc say three (vodafone) on the phone, that means it is borrowing network through vodafone in asia but billing will go via three and not vodafone. since vodafone will bill three and then three will bill you for the sms, calls and such.
Answer to OP: easiest way is to go to provider where your bought the phone from and have them unlocking your SIM lock on the phone. But it would cost you money for it thought. But be aware, if your phone is under a subscription deal then provider will reject the SIM unlock. Since they don't want you to try use another provider or try cancel current one while you got phone from them cheaper under a subscription. So this is why SIM lock is set on the phone to avoid this. But you can still use other networks called roaming with same SIM card, like i explained further up how it will go when you travel.
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A network lock does not mean it cannot be used in another country, you can still travel else where and use the phone with locked network, well it's actually called SIM Lock not network lock, when SIM is locked it means it only accepts 1 provider to be used on the phone. But when you travel it can still borrow other networks systems so you will still be able to call and send sms and such as you can do now.
So let's say you live in UK and got provider called three and it's locked to three, then when you travel to asia it will automaticly borrow one of their network somehow but it will etc say three (vodafone) on the phone, that means it is borrowing network through vodafone in asia but billing will go via three and not vodafone. since vodafone will bill three and then three will bill you for the sms, calls and such.
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Thanks for the reply, Jake. I was hoping to use a local sim on my holiday in Asia and then to Egypt... as data is a LOT cheaper using a local sim instead of roaming on my UK EE sim. If it is network locked, it would mean I cannot use a local sim abroad, correct?
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Thanks for the reply, Jake. I was hoping to use a local sim on my holiday in Asia and then to Egypt... as data is a LOT cheaper using a local sim instead of roaming on my UK EE sim. If it is network locked, it would mean I cannot use a local sim abroad, correct?
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never heard of something called network locked, but i have heard of sim lock. sim lock is diffirent to network lock, it means you can only use carrier you got phone off. But it will still use function called roaming what so ever when you travel to be able to connect to your carrier through other carriers systems.
So try asking your provider again is it network lock or sim lock. They could of meant sim lock and not network lock. If they say this then you are good to go and can use your SIM card anywhere, but then it will show on phone something like Three (Other operators name) since it will automaticly borrow through another carriers system. But you will be charged via your local carrier for the calls, internet use and so on.
So as stated, mine was locked to EE and they wouldn't unlock it.
I used https://www.unlockunit.com and got some unlock codes in less than 24hrs. My o2 card now works!
I assume now it's sim unlocked, that any card from any country would work. But that's a guess on my part.
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So as stated, mine was locked to EE and they wouldn't unlock it.
I used https://www.unlockunit.com and got some unlock codes in less than 24hrs. My o2 card now works!
I assume now it's sim unlocked, that any card from any country would work. But that's a guess on my part.
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This is very exciting! Your EE locked P20 Pro got unlocked using a code from that website? Now you can use an o2 sim in it?
Please confirm.
Yup! That's what happened. Basically, a friend purchased the P20 from a third party site (ie, not EE) with the intent to sell it (to me in the end). He assumed it was unlocked, which it wasn't on arrival. EE wouldn't unlock it until 6 months in.
I put the details into that site and honestly expected nothing. Less than 24hrs later I got a bunch of unlock codes, first one worked. Very happy
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This is very exciting! Your EE locked P20 Pro got unlocked using a code from that website? Now you can use an o2 sim in it?
Please confirm.
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they even don't have mate 20 pro on list just mate 20 lite.
So it's impossible to take out simlock with this fake site
Network / SIM lock, same thing.
Basically you just want to use another SIM than was originally intended, for travelling purposes or for if the phones sold and the buyer wants to use another SIM.
There are a tonne of services on the high street and online, eBay etc who can do this.
Should be quite cheap.
EE will provide it for £20 so long as the phones over 6 months old. Least that's what it used to be.
They can do it for free but you'd have to sweet talk them.
It's your right to have it unlocked, mobile networks shouldn't be able to lock them down, certain shops like carphone warehouse offer unlocked phones so I'd recommend buying from them in the future.
OEM's also offer the device unlocked.
Considering getting a pixel 5 but it's locked to ee UK network. I know in the past pixels from EE were impossible to sim unlock, privately away from EE. Is that still the case as I am hoping to sim unlock abs use my 02 sim card. Also if I was to unlock it from EE to 02, will I be able to use the esim feature?
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Considering getting a pixel 5 but it's locked to ee UK network. I know in the past pixels from EE were impossible to sim unlock, privately away from EE. Is that still the case as I am hoping to sim unlock abs use my 02 sim card. Also if I was to unlock it from EE to 02, will I be able to use the esim feature?
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Ee still locked ,but gov have put a law through saying next year all phones have to be sold unlocked so that's good but don't know when
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Ee still locked ,but gov have put a law through saying next year all phones have to be sold unlocked so that's good but don't know when
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Thanks, can the ee ones be unlocked?
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Thanks, can the ee ones be unlocked?
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Only through the network provider still currently. Automatically unlocks after 721 days :-|
Or £8.99 for second hand devices.
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Only through the network provider still currently. Automatically unlocks after 721 days :-|
Or £8.99 for second hand devices.
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Thanks buddy, just as I suspected, many thanks.
Is there a Dual SIM Snapdragon S21 Ultra model? If yes, what’s the model number?
The specs at GSMArena say:
Single SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM) or Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM, dual stand-by)
So it looks like at least one of the models is dual sim (and it's mentioned in the description on the Samsung website) - but there's no indication which model it might be.
Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out
HK unit should have dual sim according to my supplier.
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Samsung support said my unlocked 512gb will be dual sim - but it took a lot of time on the phone researching and calling other people for them to find that info. Not even sure if it’s true at this point. It’s very strange how this is so difficult to figure out
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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?
China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim
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China/HK version is SD888 + dual sim
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If I buy it in the US, will it change my updates from Samsung?
Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Dont waste your money getting TGY version in US.
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Why? What's bad about it?
It doesn't have software updates at the same rate?
I wonder if local COVID tracking support is present?
Yes. Hongkong version always release with dual sim snapdragon
Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G SM-G9980: https://samfw.com/firmware/SM-G9980
Yes, it supports dual sim
The Hong Kong variant has Dual Physical SIM's but no E-Sim. Regardless of which country you use it in you'll get timely updates as they are provided by Samsung, not your local service provider.
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Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.
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Why not? No carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, fast updates and the only call features you won't have are CA and 5G which at this time is more of a promotional gimmick than a useful feature.
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What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.
In India we have the dual sim exynos variant (Sim1 - PHY, Sim2 - PHY or esim) if you put in a physical Sim in the 2nd Sim position then esim gets disabled. If you use esim then the 2nd Sim is disabled.
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What about the US unlocked version? I don't care about unlocked bootloader, I know how to remove/disable all bloatware. And, the speed of updates don't matter as much as they used to. This isn't 2012.
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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!
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Are you purchasing it in the US from Samsung.com? Did you buy it already? Is the Dual SIM feature active or did these scummy carriers manage to bully Samsung into not selling a single Dual SIM phone into the market?
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from what I can gather, after a LOT of trying . . . there is no dual sim US version samsung phone. This from a lot of searching and phone conversations with several tech and sales personnel on the phone with Samsung. For this reason, I bought a non US version which broke the Samsung Health Monitor app and does not work for 5G within the USA. other than that it seems to be behaving nicely on the Tmobile US based network.
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Nope. I mean, I wasn't aware that it doesn't support dual physical SIM. But right on their website on the S21U page, it says that no US versions support eSIM. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the answer is, unfortunately, no =/
But the good thing is that (probably with any unlocked version of the phone) you can just carry around both of your SIM cards and the sim pin tool in a really small, durable canister... You'd just have to turn off the phone and then swap the SIM cards whenever you wanted to change your service. It'd be slightly more annoying, but still doable!
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Ive tried that solution and its a lot more problematic than it might seem. I need the extra sim because I travel overseas and my US carrier starts complaining when my roaming data goes large (even tho they advertise "unlimited"). that means i would need to remember to turn off mobile data everytime i change the card. also the tool gets lost and bent and you can actually bend or break those sim trays after a lot of changing . . . not to mention losing sim cards on a bumpy train or taxi. I hate to invoke Murphy, but you can be assured that when a super important call is trying to come in it will not be on the line associated with the sim card currently installed. Sim swapping can also cause minor problems with messaging apps like whatsapp and telegram that could be a whole new thread. The only real viable solution for a frequent traveler is a dual sim phone with sim 2 used for mobile data in the locale physically present in. Second to that is carrying two phones. Least desireable (at least for me) is frequent sim swapping. That's my experience and humble opinion after years of very heavy international travel.
SM-G9980 has dual SIM fully working. I know for a fact because that's the version I have. }
I'm from Chile and the phone does everything I want it to do.
I have the 9980. It is fully dual sim but does not do 5G in the US. Occasionally I don't get data in some places in the US even when I have 5 bars. I'm guessing there are other bands this device misses. But that's rare. Everything is a compromise in life!
One good piece of news is that the T-MOBILE NOTE20 ULTRA now has it's esim activated. So if you are predominantly in the US this is the combo you need as it's dual sim and 5G in the US. The hope is that they do this with more devices including the s21.