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N910c nougat 7.0 port rom galaxy tab s2 sm-t713 for 2018.
And 64bits enabled.
Some developers are working in it.
this is good news
samipower said:
N910c nougat 7.0 port rom galaxy tab s2 sm-t713 for 2018.
And 64bits enabled.
Some developers are working in it.
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Please dont spread false information. 64Bit is Impossible on the note 4
ananjaser1211 said:
Please dont spread false information. 64Bit is Impossible on the note 4
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Is it really? I mean, the Exynos variant is 64 bit capable, is it not? I know Samsung never did anything with it's still a 64 bit chip
ShaDisNX255 said:
Is it really? I mean, the Exynos variant is 64 bit capable, is it not? I know Samsung never did anything with it's still a 64 bit chip
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Being capable is one thing, Being disabled in boot-loader level is another. Yes the 5433 Can handle 64bit. However in Note 4s case. The bootloader is locked to 32bit, which means the kernel is locked to 32bit, which means its impossible to run 64bit libs on the OS. even if you somehow managed to source 5433 64Bit libs (which is impossible unless you are samsung)
Take another example. my other device the J530F (Galaxy J5 Pro) it has an exynos 7870 which is a 64Bit enabled chip, However the bootloader is Also 64bit capable (which means the kernel is 64bit which it is) so a device like that, it could be debatable that it could get 64bit if someone we source 7870 64bit libs. But Note 4s case, its just not possible. regardless of android version
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Being capable is one thing, Being disabled in boot-loader level is another. Yes the 5433 Can handle 64bit. However in Note 4s case. The bootloader is locked to 32bit, which means the kernel is locked to 32bit, which means its impossible to run 64bit libs on the OS. even if you somehow managed to source 5433 64Bit libs (which is impossible unless you are samsung)
Take another example. my other device the J530F (Galaxy J5 Pro) it has an exynos 7870 which is a 64Bit enabled chip, However the bootloader is Also 64bit capable (which means the kernel is 64bit which it is) so a device like that, it could be debatable that it could get 64bit if someone we source 7870 64bit libs. But Note 4s case, its just not possible. regardless of android version
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Aaah, got it. Thanks for clearing that up
I guess even if it was possible, there's not much you would be able to actually do to take advantage of the 64 bits with just 3 GIGs of RAM, right?
ShaDisNX255 said:
Aaah, got it. Thanks for clearing that up
I guess even if it was possible, there's not much you would be able to actually do to take advantage of the 64 bits with just 3 GIGs of RAM, right?
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Aside from RAM , the main benefit would be using 64bit apps, so Bixby voice/vision for example.
ShaDisNX255 said:
Aaah, got it. Thanks for clearing that up
I guess even if it was possible, there's not much you would be able to actually do to take advantage of the 64 bits with just 3 GIGs of RAM, right?
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Well.....we might have a chance of getting Google Camera to work on the Note 4 if that's possible
ananjaser1211 said:
Being capable is one thing, Being disabled in boot-loader level is another. Yes the 5433 Can handle 64bit. However in Note 4s case. The bootloader is locked to 32bit, which means the kernel is locked to 32bit, which means its impossible to run 64bit libs on the OS. even if you somehow managed to source 5433 64Bit libs (which is impossible unless you are samsung)
Take another example. my other device the J530F (Galaxy J5 Pro) it has an exynos 7870 which is a 64Bit enabled chip, However the bootloader is Also 64bit capable (which means the kernel is 64bit which it is) so a device like that, it could be debatable that it could get 64bit if someone we source 7870 64bit libs. But Note 4s case, its just not possible. regardless of android version
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Hello, sorry for late question. May I ask how you realized that it's a 32bit-only bootloader?
I am trying to mainline this device, and there is support for exynos5433 on the mainline kernel. However it is only in the arm64 folder, so if the bootloadfer is 32 only i don't think its possible to mainline. thanks!
We have a BIG idea!
Develop android 7.1.1 with all note8 (it means Samsung experience 8.5 and new kernel) features for galaxy Note4.
But we need developers, so if you are a developer and you want to help join us please.
https://t.me/joinchat/FVug2kOlC2SYvnfM38O4iw
(copy that link to your browser and it will take you to our group)
Thanks!!
I''m interested. How about using Telegram instead? Much better.
God I wish I had bought a snapdragon variant..
ElayHadad said:
We have a BIG idea!
Develop android 8.0 with all note8 features for galaxy Note4.
But we need developers, so if you are a developer and you want to help join us please.
chat.whatsapp.com/4sNAR4IIO1MCDfq4B0twdL
(copy that link to your browser and it will take you to our group)
Thanks!!
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That would be so great if a few devs will be found, m any people are waiting for this!!
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ElayHadad said:
We have a BIG idea!
Develop android 8.0 with all note8 features for galaxy Note4.
But we need developers, so if you are a developer and you want to help join us please.
chat.whatsapp.com/4sNAR4IIO1MCDfq4B0twdL
(copy that link to your browser and it will take you to our group)
Thanks!!
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I'm not a dev but i could help with testing.
I'm just a noob (910V) ,, but I am willing to be a beta tester....very much looking forward to this build...
Sounds good, if you need help, here I am, but Telegram its a better way to do discuss :fingers-crossed:
I'm not a dev but I have a note 4 Sprint and can be a tester or do other tasks. I'm in!
Can we use something other than WhatsApp? I 2nd the telegram notion.
Remember when XDA used to have Logic and common sense ?
Let's go over this one more time
You want to port Android 8.0 to Note 4. Are you talking about porting official TW Oreo from Note 8, or porting all TW features - proprietary, closed-source Samsung code - from TW to AOSP?
oddbehreif said:
Let's go over this one more time
You want to port Android 8.0 to Note 4. Are you talking about porting official TW Oreo from Note 8, or porting all TW features - proprietary, closed-source Samsung code - from TW to AOSP?
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Good luck with Porting a 64Bit System to a 32Bit Device... Simply not possible. And ported 64Bit Sammy Features on 32Bit AOSP? Mhh... The Note 4 may be the last good Sammy Device, but we will never see newer Samsung Software on it as Marshmallow Ports or pure AOSP/Lineage. Correct Me if i'm wrong but i think that's it....
Lineage 14.x is running great,if the drivers are there why slouldnt run a N8port dousnt run?
Miustone said:
Good luck with Porting a 64Bit System to a 32Bit Device... Simply not possible. And ported 64Bit Sammy Features on 32Bit AOSP? Mhh... The Note 4 may be the last good Sammy Device, but we will never see newer Samsung Software on it as Marshmallow Ports or pure AOSP/Lineage. Correct Me if i'm wrong but i think that's it....
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Well generally speaking when you port a rom (Nougat , MM whatever the case maybe) from a 64bit device, you dont port it as 64bit obviously unless the arch is unlocked and ready for it, you port it as 32Bit, the only limitation in terms of Touchwiz is when a certin app has only 64bit libs (Bixby voice is a great example) so even if you run api 24 (nougat) you wont be able to use such apps, But firmware side you can port it without issues, All 64bit phones include a set of 32bit libs aswell. and in terms of snapdragon Note 4 , yes you will never see a nougat or higher ""TOUCHWIZ"" based rom, Exynos however is already running Nougat.
manne48 said:
Lineage 14.x is running great,if the drivers are there why slouldnt run a N8port dousnt run?
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As we all know you cant run TouchWiz based applications on AOSP (SystemUI / Launcher and many more) due to the fact that they require SEM codes (Samsung experience mobile), If samsung had their system sources up then you would have been able to, But just converting LOS 14 or AOSP to TouchWiz is just not gonna happen
manne48 said:
Lineage 14.x is running great,if the drivers are there why slouldnt run a N8port dousnt run?
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because will never work since sammy needs his own android runtime etc etc for boot because it have methods etc needed from the framework etc. try to install the n8 launcher on lineage and you see what happens. it give fc. even after you add the missing method it will again fc and even when you add all missing methods that launcher needs in frameworks it will still fc because methods in the main libs are missing. and using sammy libs on lineage one is impossible since after some libs replace it will give a nice blackscreen
Hello,i have a question,the dates from the N4 and Nexus 6 are quite similar:
https://www.inside-handy.de/handy-ve...-galaxy-note-4
For the nexus 6 exists an Android 8 port,
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage...oogle-nexus-6/
So,is it possible to make from this one a poert for our N4??
best regards,
manne
manne48 said:
Hello,i have a question,the dates from the N4 and Nexus 6 are quite similar:
https://www.inside-handy.de/handy-ve...-galaxy-note-4
For the nexus 6 exists an Android 8 port,
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lineage...oogle-nexus-6/
So,is it possible to make from this one a poert for our N4??
best regards,
manne
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I think it is possible to port Oreo to the Note 4, but not TW version of Oreo (in other words, include all Note 8 features in an Oreo port)
It will most likely be ported as Lineage or RR without the extra Sammy features, idk.
ShaDisNX255 said:
I think it is possible to port Oreo to the Note 4, but not TW version of Oreo (in other words, include all Note 8 features in an Oreo port)
It will most likely be ported as Lineage or RR without the extra Sammy features, idk.
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That would be good to have oreo,even without tw,hope it comes next time,rr or lineage...
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ElayHadad said:
We have a BIG idea!
Develop android 7.1.1 with all note8 (it means Samsung experience 8.5 and new kernel) features for galaxy Note4.
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What about exynos?
Çingiz Salmanov said:
What about exynos?
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The whole thread explains why it's NOT POSSIBLE for neihter version.
And 2 absolutely great developers have even taken their time to explain why...
Hopping to get it. ?
Cheers from portugal
Is there a way to leave the firmware as it is and only increase it to 64bit without changing much?
no, thats not how that works at all.
PhiJoTo said:
Is there a way to leave the firmware as it is and only increase it to 64bit without changing much?
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The only possibility of getting to 64-bit is if motorola releases 64-bit source code after launch, and then someone creates a custom rom using it. This actually happened with the original Moto Z Play, so there is a chance. But we're not there yet.
Uclydde said:
The only possibility of getting to 64-bit is if motorola releases 64-bit source code after launch, and then someone creates a custom rom using it. This actually happened with the original Moto Z Play, so there is a chance. But we're not there yet.
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Is it possible that it gets 64bit with the pie update?
PhiJoTo said:
Is it possible that it gets 64bit with the pie update?
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Likely only if a device originally shipped with the 64 bit OS (e.g. G6 Plus). If you've got the G6 with a 32 bit OS, the update would likely be 32 bit, with you requiring custom development for a 64 bit custom ROM. From what I understand, moving from 32 bit to 64 bit may need a device wipe, which a lot of users (especially non-XDA or non enthusiast users) may not understand or happy with if that was mandatory for a system update.
What's the point in having 64bit on this device?
Swift2603 said:
What's the point in having 64bit on this device?
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As far as I know, mainly the reason for wanting 64 bit on the G6 would be to use certain apps that are only 64 bit (e.g. Google Camera and in this case, fortnite). The G6 has 4 GB of RAM so the memory addressing advantage wouldn't be in use (unlike the G6 plus which can include up to 6 GB apparently), though could be argued you may get better performance from 64 bit. However, drivers may have to be re written or modified from the 32 bit system to work on the 64 bit, even if you could flash the 64 bit custom ROM, there may be bugs.
As a non-developer, it would be my assumption that the bootloader and vendor files would have to know how to interact with 64bit parameters. Despite our hardware supporting 64bit, the underlying software must support it as well. Like others have said, Motorola would have to release the source or build it for us.
I dont know a lot about this, but i think the Moto G5 Plus community got it.
They did the firmware 64 bit despite the fact that Motorola didnt do anything
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/dev-64bits-t3708091
@dejello is working on 64bit support. last i heard he had a 64bit kernel working in TWRP with a working display.
Guys plz share all benefits of 64bit os over 32 bit os. We can have 64 bit pie update I would request all of you to kindly provide them with all techinacal benefits here https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ncompatiblity-for-some-apps/m-p/4287821#M6880
Moto forums
I'm sorry, but the only way we can expect 64 bit Android on our phones is through custom ROMS. Motorola would have to rework too much of the OS for the G6 to be 64 bits and would probably take a full wipe to do so, risking losing of data and stupid users suing them for it.
I hope we can get official LineageOs with 64 bit one day, that would be ideal.
sapo_joe said:
I'm sorry, but the only way we can expect 64 bit Android on our phones is through custom ROMS. Motorola would have to rework too much of the OS for the G6 to be 64 bits and would probably take a full wipe to do so, risking losing of data and stupid users suing them for it.
I hope we can get official LineageOs with 64 bit one day, that would be ideal.
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Then can release 64 bit pie OTA update we just have to agree them on the same
You have already created a thread for this topic here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/32-bit-os-vs-64-bit-os-t3874109
Do not post non development threads in development sections.
Thread closed.
Hello to all,
For t715 with Exynos processor, it is a 64 bit ROM on XDA?
I don't find any thread with...
Anyone know about this?
I appreciate any feedback.
Hello,
While the Exynos processor is compatible with 64bit instructions, Samsung never enabled it from the kernel. No device with this processor was ever released with a 64bit version of the kernel, thus, all custom ROMs are forced to use what's currently available: 32bit ARM instructions.
Since the processor first got used inside the Galaxy Note 4 (which was launched on Android 4.4, before Android supported 64bit instructions) Samsung had to use a 32bit kernel. It was not worth the extra effort in rewriting the entire kernel from the ground up just to make it compatbile with 64bit instructions. And now here we are, 6 years later.
Hope that cleared up any question you might have had left. Have a nice day!
Dariusdd said:
Hello,
While the Exynos processor is compatible with 64bit instructions, Samsung never enabled it from the kernel. No device with this processor was ever released with a 64bit version of the kernel, thus, all custom ROMs are forced to use what's currently available: 32bit ARM instructions.
Since the processor first got used inside the Galaxy Note 4 (which was launched on Android 4.4, before Android supported 64bit instructions) Samsung had to use a 32bit kernel. It was not worth the extra effort in rewriting the entire kernel from the ground up just to make it compatbile with 64bit instructions. And now here we are, 6 years later.
Hope that cleared up any question you might have had left. Have a nice day!
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Thank you!