Does this phone and the galaxy Y duos etc has a separate GPU like the original ace (not the 'i') or is the CPU is modified to do GPU calculations. Some people say that it has Videocore IV of broadcom as it's GPU but I don't think that's the case. This is what I've found that Ace duos and Y duos Both of which use Broadcom BCM21553 as cpu
Note that I found no mention of videocore IV in these phone, by samsung or by broadcom and also so please if anyone knows the correct answer please tell me . In the gsmarena review it has been said that the Ace duos is using a cheaper chipset that the usual Qualcom one found on these kind of entry level phones.
I could not post link as I am new to XDA so it prevents me from it hence I've attached a zip containing screenshots of the details that I've found on the matter from pda.net,broadcom's official site etc............ nothing more nothing less
BCM21553 VideoCore 4
its using BCM21553 VideoCore 4 ARMv6 Based on ARM Cortex-A9
max display = full hd
and is used in Samsung Galaxy Y[2][3][4] Samsung Wave Y, Samsung Galaxy Mini (GT-S5570i), Samsung Galaxy Ace (models 5830i/c
gt-s6802/m and 5839i),Samsung Galaxy [email protected] (GT-B5330), Vodafone Smart 2 (Alcatel TCT V860)
source wikipedia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZuNOCh-zetA#t=368s
Looks like the Galaxy Grand will be powered by a BCM28150 chip, it is armv7 so I'm not too sure of the things we would gain out of it
But since it runs android 4.1 and still has a Videocore IV GPU, I think we can still get some useful stuff out of its firmware
What do you guys think?
R: Galaxy Grand Duos will be using a Broadcom chip (android 4.1)
Galaxy SII Plus will use a Broadcom chipset....
Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 4.2.1
Quad-core POWER
well lets hope broadcom and samsung to work on S5830i too
One good thing is that....new and bigger devs will start working on broadcom chips. If thats the case. We can ask for their help in many cases.
Sent from GT S5830i from Broadcom Headquarters.
even 2 year old galaxy s2 beats the recently released broadcom powered dual core s2 plus in benchmarks - so no high hopes for this one
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
HOPE....
lets hope this will gain as anythng useful..............................damn samsung for this condition
I also heard that galaxy s2 plus has terrible GPU scores.33fps while the original s2 can do 55 fps.Same old Video core 4 gpu.Does that really serve a purpose?
GT S5830i-Rocking on Broadcoms gpu...
I think we can get something usefull from it, but not much. Let's hope that we will have a working wifi\bluetooth\gps\etc. from it.
nikufellow said:
even 2 year old galaxy s2 beats the recently released broadcom powered dual core s2 plus in benchmarks - so no high hopes for this one
why fix it if it ain't broken ?
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I am not sure about this except in linpack and glbench egypt 1080p offscreen, SII Plus wins quite decently
source: GSMArena Preview
And in linpack GA quotes they suspect some linpack issue.
I'm also interested in Galaxy Grand Duos recently released in India. Since it too is suspected to be on broadcom I was searching and found this
^its a good buy nevertheless quadrant scores are impressive . Moreover sunspider and browsermark looks promising as well . Only multi threaded benchmarks come out bit disappointing but i don't think there will be any noticeable performance differences in real life
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Hello
i found that the are this and maybe more versions of the LeEco le 2
x620 should be mediatek
x520 snapdragon
x526 snapdragon
x527 snapdragon international band 20
someone knows any other differences?
There is also X522 X528 and X529
terodeg said:
Hello
i found that the are this and maybe more versions of the LeEco le 2
x620 should be mediatek
x520 snapdragon
x526 snapdragon
x527 snapdragon international band 20
someone knows any other differences?
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All this version phone size/design is the same right ??
coolkillermax said:
All this version phone size/design is the same right ??
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leeco le 2 's x62X models are having Mediatek helios X20 and X25 SoC and x52X models are having Snapdragon 652 SoC.
Mediatek helios x20 and x25 is more powerful than snapdragon 652. But they are having very weak gpu's which mean you cant really play high graphic games on them without any lags!
And in different parts of the world Leeco has launched same phones with same specs but with different Network bands so they all are having different names and all other specs are exactly the same.
For eg: In India leeco launched leeco le 2(x526) which is same as the leeco le 2(x520) in China and the same phone in Russia is named as X527 and in US leeco launched it under the name Leeco S3 (x522) they all are having snapdragon 652 SoC and same specs, but the only difference between them all is that they are having different bands.
danishdvn said:
leeco le 2 's x62X models are having Mediatek helios X20 and X25 SoC and x52X models are having Snapdragon 652 SoC.
Mediatek helios x20 and x25 is more powerful than snapdragon 652. But they are having very weak gpu's which mean you cant really play high graphic games on them without any lags!
And in different parts of the world Leeco has launched same phones with same specs but with different Network bands so they all are having different names and all other specs are exactly the same.
For eg: In India leeco launched leeco le 2(x526) which is same as the leeco le 2(x520) in China and the same phone in Russia is named as X527 and in US leeco launched it under the name Leeco S3 (x522) they all are having snapdragon 652 SoC and same specs, but the only difference between them all is that they are having different bands.
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Thank you for good detail explain So that means all version phone design is the same due i order phone flip case writen LeEco le 2 x620 but my wife phone is x527 version so flip case can use on x527 right ??
danishdvn said:
leeco le 2 's x62X models are having Mediatek helios X20 and X25 SoC and x52X models are having Snapdragon 652 SoC.
Mediatek helios x20 and x25 is more powerful than snapdragon 652. But they are having very weak gpu's which mean you cant really play high graphic games on them without any lags!
And in different parts of the world Leeco has launched same phones with same specs but with different Network bands so they all are having different names and all other specs are exactly the same.
For eg: In India leeco launched leeco le 2(x526) which is same as the leeco le 2(x520) in China and the same phone in Russia is named as X527 and in US leeco launched it under the name Leeco S3 (x522) they all are having snapdragon 652 SoC and same specs, but the only difference between them all is that they are having different bands.
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So, I can cross flash different official regions' roms for all snapdragon 652 models?
ie. all official roms are compatible between x520, x522, x526, x527?
coolkillermax said:
All this version phone size/design is the same right ??
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coolkillermax said:
Thank you for good detail explain So that means all version phone design is the same due i order phone flip case writen LeEco le 2 x620 but my wife phone is x527 version so flip case can use on x527 right ??
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It probably should, as the dimensions of both the phones are same.
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totalz said:
So, I can cross flash different official regions' roms for all snapdragon 652 models?
ie. all official roms are compatible between x520, x522, x526, x527?
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Yes , You can flash. but you might have to change the updater script as the company(Leeco) has released different official builds for different models not for all models, Iam not sure that you have to edit the updater script or not. So you can try your luck. And don't flash leeco le 2, Meditek model rom on your phone as it can brick your phone.
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It probably should, as the dimensions of both the phones are same.
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Yes , You can flash. but you might have to change the updater script as the company(Leeco) has released different official builds for different models not for all models, Iam not sure that you have to edit the updater script or not. So you can try your luck. And don't flash leeco le 2, Meditek model rom on your phone as it can brick your phone.
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OK good, flip case on the way coming to me let me look soon…
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danishdvn said:
leeco le 2 's x62X models are having Mediatek helios X20 and X25 SoC and x52X models are having Snapdragon 652 SoC.
Mediatek helios x20 and x25 is more powerful than snapdragon 652.
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What makes you think that 4xA72 kernels in the SD652 are slower than 2xA72 kernels in the Helio X20? You can discard the little A53 kernels altogether as they contribute very little to peak performance of the device.
My personal experience using MTK Helio X25 and X27 devices is that they are optimized strictly for certain testing apps. They don't (and cannot) work as fast in real-world apps as they do in the tests due to poor CPU governors; the poor governors, in turn, are the result of the sheer complexity of the tri-cluster architecture. In my experience, SD652 devices are not only snappier in real use, they overheat much less and last longer than Helio X25/X27 counterparts.
Helio X25/X27 can and should be compared with Snapdragon 650, a SoC with only two 'big' A72 cores.
aoleg said:
What makes you think that 4xA72 kernels in the SD652 are slower than 2xA72 kernels in the Helio X20? You can discard the little A53 kernels altogether as they contribute very little to peak performance of the device.
My personal experience using MTK Helio X25 and X27 devices is that they are optimized strictly for certain testing apps. They don't (and cannot) work as fast in real-world apps as they do in the tests due to poor CPU governors; the poor governors, in turn, are the result of the sheer complexity of the tri-cluster architecture. In my experience, SD652 devices are not only snappier in real use, they overheat much less and last longer than Helio X25/X27 counterparts.
Helio X25/X27 can and should be compared with Snapdragon 650, a SoC with only two 'big' A72 cores.
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Hi,
I will like to tell you that First of all Mediatek helio x20, x25 and x27 are having 10 cores( 2A72 + 4A53 + 4A53) They are well made under 20 nm Manufacturing Process. It is just a full package of everything which a SoC needs to be. But the only thing it lacks is a good GPU and some optimization. They can just wreck off a Sd 652 even could have competed with a sd820 if they had a slightly powerful GPU. They were mostly used by some Chinese brands which don't really care about optimization so that's why they are not implemented well.
Now, sd652 has 4 A72 cores at 1.8ghz and Mtk x25 has 2 A72 Core at better 2.6 GHz frequency. And the 4 A72 cores in sd652 are not up all time because of thermal throttling in order to maintain the temperature so most of the times it shuts 2 of its A72 cores.
According to my experience with Helios x25 and Sd 652 on my Leeco le 2 pro and Le 2 respectively I can say that Helio X25 can easily defeat the Sd 652 in CPU rendering stuff........
danishdvn said:
Hi,
I will like to tell you that First of all Mediatek helio x20, x25 and x27 are having 10 cores( 2A72 + 4A53 + 4A53) They are well made under 20 nm Manufacturing Process. It is just a full package of everything which a SoC needs to be. But the only thing it lacks is a good GPU and some optimization. They can just wreck off a Sd 652 even could have competed with a sd820 if they had a slightly powerful GPU. They were mostly used by some Chinese brands which don't really care about optimization so that's why they are not implemented well.
Now, sd652 has 4 A72 cores at 1.8ghz and Mtk x25 has 2 A72 Core at better 2.6 GHz frequency. And the 4 A72 cores in sd652 are not up all time because of thermal throttling in order to maintain the temperature so most of the times it shuts 2 of its A72 cores.
According to my experience with Helios x25 and Sd 652 on my Leeco le 2 pro and Le 2 respectively I can say that Helio X25 can easily defeat the Sd 652 in CPU rendering stuff........
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Thank you, I can count to ten The "little" cores contribute very little to peak performance. Consider SD652 a 4.4 cores, and X20 a 2.8 cores CPU, and things start looking much more logical. I understand the argument of thinner manufacturing process (20nm Helio X20 vs 28nm SD652), as well as the higher peak clock speed of the MTK processor. In reality, however, things don't work as they do on the spec sheet. CPU governors, optimization and many other factors affect both performance and battery life.
In real life, a typical SD652 smartphone is smoother and just "feels" faster than a typical X25 device; games run better; apps launch faster. Battery life is surprisingly much better on the SD652: I've got similar battery life on SD652 phones with 3000mAh batteries compared to a 4000mAh battery in an X27 device. Be it because of the drivers, optimization, or some other factors is another matter entirely. Specs don't tell the whole story.
aoleg said:
Thank you, I can count to ten The "little" cores contribute very little to peak performance. Consider SD652 a 4.4 cores, and X20 a 2.8 cores CPU, and things start looking much more logical. I understand the argument of thinner manufacturing process (20nm Helio X20 vs 28nm SD652), as well as the higher peak clock speed of the MTK processor. In reality, however, things don't work as they do on the spec sheet. CPU governors, optimization and many other factors affect both performance and battery life.
In real life, a typical SD652 smartphone is smoother and just "feels" faster than a typical X25 device; games run better; apps launch faster. Battery life is surprisingly much better on the SD652: I've got similar battery life on SD652 phones with 3000mAh batteries compared to a 4000mAh battery in an X27 device. Be it because of the drivers, optimization, or some other factors is another matter entirely. Specs don't tell the whole story.
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If I flash X527 firmware on X520 leeco le 2, will all the LTE band in X527 work in the x520?
Bolumstar said:
If I flash X527 firmware on X520 leeco le 2, will all the LTE band in X527 work in the x520?
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Yes it works
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DarknessKiller said:
Yes it works
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Wow! That's interesting....
But if I flash a custom ROM, which modem do they usually carry, X527 or x520? Or should one flash modem after flashing custom ROM?
Bolumstar said:
Wow! That's interesting....
But if I flash a custom ROM, which modem do they usually carry, X527 or x520? Or should one flash modem after flashing custom ROM?
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Erm any modems works (all bands still works)
But Only Eui rom that will install modem...
Other custom rom will use the preinstalled
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DarknessKiller said:
Erm any modems works (all bands still works)
But Only Eui rom that will install modem...
Other custom rom will use the preinstalled
Sent from my X527 using XDA Labs
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That would be too easy to enable band 20 on a x520 device, can't believe it...
JamBax said:
That would be too easy to enable band 20 on a x520 device, can't believe it...
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No it wont enable..
As long what model you have the amount of modem of modem u will get
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DarknessKiller said:
No it wont enable..
As long what model you have the amount of modem of modem u will get
Sent from my X527 using XDA Labs
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But @Bolumstar asked for this, a x520 will not have band 20 just by flashing x527 firmware.
JamBax said:
But @Bolumstar asked for this, a x520 will not have band 20 just by flashing x527 firmware.
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I look wrong i see it upside down
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JamBax said:
But @Bolumstar asked for this, a x520 will not have band 20 just by flashing x527 firmware.
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Thanks for the clarification @JamBax
I think I should go for coolpad dual 1
Just about the same price but extra 1000Mah of
Battery and dual camera ?
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But @Bolumstar asked for this, a x520 will not have band 20 just by flashing x527 firmware.
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Thanks for the clarification @JamBax
I think I should go for coolpad dual 1
Just about the same price but extra 1000Mah of
Battery and dual camera ?
Hello everyone
I'm starting a new thread for posting benchmark results as proof of how our device can perform.
You can either post screenshots or type the results.
Also state the android version you are using and/or any tweaks (if any) to achieve these scores.
My results are in the second post.
I'll start with Geekbench 4.4.0 results.
When I had emui 4.0.3 my compute result is 1935 which is the highest I've ever gotten on this phone. I also enabled 4xmsaa and 2d hardware acceleration in developer options.
Compare this with the compute score of the p8 which is 1916. Amazing.
With Resurrection remix OS 5.8.5 (android 7.1.2) my highest Geekbench CPU results are:
Single core: 560
Multi core: 2487
Average P8 lite multi core score is 1974
The P8 multi core score is 2482
That's two times proven that my p8 lite beat the p8. Amazing. I'll post screenshots soon...
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