Playing these with The core media player the one off here. Its absoultley terriable playing them, lags and freezes everywhere then evetually after a bit crash up. I have closed all other programmes down and still its rubbish.
Any solutions as this device is maent to have good hardware speeds.
How 's about camera ? is it working well in low light ?
you should prob state what res those avi mpg's are as there would be a lot of difference between 640_480 ones vs. 800_600 ones
if they are 640_480 ones then maybe the missing qualcomm driver still haunts
I guess resolution might matter to as it plays smaller vidieos well but on the imate universal it plays them very well even if they are full avi's or mpg.
I guess this is another device rushed again.
im using coreplayer v1.2.5 build 4506 on qtv at high quality with a 700 meg avi file res 512x288 and its running like butter, its a huge huge leap from the touch cruise! Im very pleased with the diamonds performance.
Edit, I just did coreplayers Benchmark on this vid and got:
Average Speed: 130.09%
Video Frames: 1976
Audio Samples: 3844971
Amount Of Data: 5116KB
Bench Time: 01:00.756
Bench Frame Rate: 32.524
Bench Sample Rate: 63285
Bench Data Rate 689 kbit/s
Original Time: 1:19.040
Original Framerate: 25.00
Original Sample Rate: 48000
Original Data Rate: 530 kbit/s
I have no idea wether they are good or not but to me the playback is perfect!
Would you or someone else mind doing an apples to apples benchmark using Coreplayer? I'm concerned that the Diamond may still not have good video drivers. I used the clip below to test the 6700 vs. the HTC 6900 "Vogue" (Sprint Touch) and found that the 6700 was sadly superior.
Please download and play the "Futurama: Bender's Big Score" preview from below:
http://mediafilmnetwork.com/
Run it fullscreen landscape with nothing else in the background, and let me know what your benchmark results were. I'll post mine at 416 and 624mhz.
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Would you or someone else mind doing an apples to apples benchmark using Coreplayer? I'm concerned that the Diamond may still not have good video drivers. I used the clip below to test the 6700 vs. the HTC 6900 "Vogue" (Sprint Touch) and found that the 6700 was sadly superior.
Please download and play the "Futurama: Bender's Big Score" preview from below:
http://mediafilmnetwork.com/
Run it fullscreen landscape with nothing else in the background, and let me know what your benchmark results were. I'll post mine at 416 and 624mhz.
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Just done it, it said ac3 not supported but did the bench anyway on default settings ie qtv high quality and the diamond at defaults.
Average Speed: 125.63%
Video Frames: 3000
Amount Of Data: 25138 KB
Bench Time: 01:39.599
Bench Frame Rate: 30.121
Bench Data Rate 2.07 Mbit/s
Original Time: 2:05.125
Original Framerate: 23.976
Original Data Rate: 1.65 Mbit/s
Hope this helps!!
Is it anygood? it certainly looked bloody good and smooth!
That would be REALLY good if sound were enabled . . . I did a similar test with the 6700 and the Touch - and the Touch was able to get similar results when the user disabled sound. Obviously, when sound was enabled - their results became terrible. I'm hoping your Diamond is still trying to work with sound, and the results reflect what you'd see during actual usage. I'm using TCPMP with the AC3 plugin.
Let me post results from my 6700:
624mhz (XCPUScalar)
Average speed: 131.91%
Bench Frame Rate: 31.63
Sample Rate: 63565
Bench Data Rate: 2.1MB/S
416mhz
Average speed: 109.58%
Bench Frame Rate: 26.27
Sample Rate: 52744
Bench Data Rate: 1.8MB/S
Can you either enable the AC3 plugin, or find another online video I can access - that you can actually play? I'd love to test and make sure we're comparing performance at the same task. I'm concerned that HTC may not have their video drivers straightened out. That's the only thing keeping me from considering an "upgrade".
Okay seems like some of you got the full avi and mpg working exactly how im i doing this again. Does having a gray import also matter coz maybe it might not yet be updated.
Watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXo9UZOX2k
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Okay seems like some of you got the full avi and mpg working exactly how im i doing this again. Does having a gray import also matter coz maybe it might not yet be updated.
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Nope. It's only a matter of the program you're using. You can get the last free version of core player, plus the AC3 plugin from this website:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
The AC3 plugin has a readme on how to install it.
I'm not sure if the plugin will work with the version you have if it's different. But you might try installing this version, then running the video for comparison.
Just for your information - the HTC touch version benchmarked that video at 105% without audio but only at 78% with audio. I'm concerned that if you benchmark the Diamond and it gets worse results than my 416mhz 6700 - then the drivers are still screwed up.
If badman can't run this test, can someone else do so?
I think it'd be useful to everyone to know how this phone benchmarks vs. the 6700, HTC Touch, and even the HTC Tytn II. In light of the "class action" issues with HTC/Qualcomm video drivers - I would think everyone would want to know if the same problems exist with the new Diamond.
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If badman can't run this test, can someone else do so?
I think it'd be useful to everyone to know how this phone benchmarks vs. the 6700, HTC Touch, and even the HTC Tytn II. In light of the "class action" issues with HTC/Qualcomm video drivers - I would think everyone would want to know if the same problems exist with the new Diamond.
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I've been trying to run this test for you but the player keeps crashing with an 'Unexpected program failure' message. It was working when I first installed it, but now it's gone weird.
Sorry!
No worries, I appreciate the effort. It's a shame that the player won't work for you? Have you tried uninstalling then reinstalling?
I also realized that there's other factors involved in making a head to head comparison. The most important being a VGA screen vs. a QVGA screen in the other devices.
Yes I've tried uninstalling and re-installing, both on the device and in the internal storage.
The video wasplaying OK, then when I went to run the test it had stopped working. Most annoying.
who needs AC3 for a mobile device?
its just puts unnecessary load on the cpu and you gain next to nothing...
It was actually the AC3 plugin that was causing the application to crash. I've removed that and now I can play the video but obviously don't get any sound.
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That would be REALLY good if sound were enabled . . . I did a similar test with the 6700 and the Touch - and the Touch was able to get similar results when the user disabled sound. Obviously, when sound was enabled - their results became terrible. I'm hoping your Diamond is still trying to work with sound, and the results reflect what you'd see during actual usage. I'm using TCPMP with the AC3 plugin.
Let me post results from my 6700:
624mhz (XCPUScalar)
Average speed: 131.91%
Bench Frame Rate: 31.63
Sample Rate: 63565
Bench Data Rate: 2.1MB/S
416mhz
Average speed: 109.58%
Bench Frame Rate: 26.27
Sample Rate: 52744
Bench Data Rate: 1.8MB/S
Can you either enable the AC3 plugin, or find another online video I can access - that you can actually play? I'd love to test and make sure we're comparing performance at the same task. I'm concerned that HTC may not have their video drivers straightened out. That's the only thing keeping me from considering an "upgrade".
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OK, finally got it working. I had to install the AC3 plugin before the application which seems a bit odd to me. Anyway, here are the results. Note that this is with a tweaked Diamond, using the tweaks found on here to speed up TouchFlo etc. Only thing running was the phone radio.
Average speed: 79.34%
Bench Frame Rate: 19:02
Sample Rate: 38094
Bench Data Rate: 1.3MB/S
So, pretty poor really.
Ouch, that's a shame. :-(
That could either mean that the video drivers aren't being properly implemented yet - or they have been, but outputting video to a VGA screen is too much for the device to handle. I know that's been the case when trying to play emulators on powerful VGA devices. I'm sorry to hear the results, regardless. Thank you very much for running that benchmark - I believe more people than I would be appreciative of the results.
BTW - the only reason AC3 is a useful implementation, is that many of us already have A LOT of video files on our computer at full resolution and with AC3. Encoding usually takes a minimum of an hour - so it's not useful to just grab and go. With my 6700 I can upload a movie on the run at any time.
If you're happy converting movies, it's by far the most efficient way to go with regards to PDA storage and processing power. That's just not terribly useful for a lot of users like me.
Bumped for reference with a bencharking thread.
Hey, I'm using FroydVillain 1.7.2 with the OpenGL 1.1 update.
I got Pocket Legends to work, and I have tried both the AngryBirds 1.3.5 modified and the newest from market. The problem is, all of these 3 games lag horribly on my HTC Hero GSM. I'm using Minimum freq 352 Mhz and Max 691 Mhz. Any ideas/solutions, or am I out of luck?
Btw. Before installing custom roms, the 1.3.5 worked so-so, even though it lagged at later levels and had white textures, now it's unplayable, even though it should be faster.
EDIT: I updated my kernel.
Getting 26.7 FPS in NeoCore, now after new kernel 26.7 FPS again, I have
Flykernel 12a
OpenGL 1.1 (VM Heapsize 24)
Min 176 Max 614
Having installed the OpenGL 1.1 update, Angry Birds 1.3.5 (modded) also seems slower to me, but it can also be the kernel. After i installed flykernel some other games started slowing down also. How did you exactly get pocket legends to work
VillainRom 1.7.2
Open GL ES 1.1 (VM Heapsize 24)
Min 264 Max 614
FlyKernel 12a
-edit- the original angry birds 1.3.5 works without lag, just search on google Textures still missing offcourse
I have
FroydVillain 1.7.2
Android 2.2.1
FlyKernel 11c
I got Pocket Legends to work by changing egl.cfg in /system/lib/egl/egl.cfg to
0 0 qcom
0 1 android
This breaks my Angry Birds though.
Should I update my FlyKernel? Also, where to see info about OpenGL?
EDIT: Getting 26.7 FPS in NeoCore, now after new kernel the same, now I have
Flykernel 12a
OpenGL 1.1 (VM Heapsize 24)
Min 176 Max 614
Yeah thats neocore score with sound right. If you turn sound off in options you will get around 35. That's what everyone is oosting. About pocket legends. Its slow here too, phone just too old i guess. For open gl info download android system information in market
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
I get a 57.4 neocore score, im running open GL ES 1.1 on android 2.3, overclocked to 710MHz and i have no idea why i cant run this application
running on HTC Hero GSM
To all people who are running 2.3 and try to play games. make sure the game is installed on the phone and not the FAT SD partition, look in manage aplications and then under the app move it to the Phone. if that option is there. I can play all games on 2.3, well the ones that atleast run on the Hero.
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I get a 57.4 neocore score, im running open GL ES 1.1 on android 2.3, overclocked to 710MHz and i have no idea why i cant run this application
running on HTC Hero GSM
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Keep in mind that you miss a lot of stuff in Neocore on 2.3 so that is why it is so high, if it had all the graphics it would prob be lower then 2.2.
I didn't notice any improvement in video smoothness in the new stock ROM.
Quadrant, at the end of the benchmark, crawls at 20-24 FPS. Cyclying through pages (especially in the apps page) isn't smooth yet.
Looks like the phone is using the analogous to a "Generic VGA driver" of a Windows desktop computer - all rendering unaccelerated.
Is that it or there's more to it than I "see"? TIA.
Try zeus rom.
Hi! What kind If points i should except with P10? Did slingshot Extreme 3 Times, score was 600-800. Factory reset just done.
I'm on oreo beta p10
Ye, same results for me.. But are those results bit low for device like this?
I'm running Android 7.1 and got OpenGL ES 3.1 score of 1108 and Vulkan was 878
Similar results here on B360. But after I changed GPU Renderer in Developer options to OpenGL (Skia), I've got 1.103 and 842 respectively.
I'm getting 600-800 as well for the latest firmware available.
Why is this happening? Shouldn't it get 1k+?
After the latest PUBGM updates, the graphics settings are only limited on HDR-Ultra,the previous setting HDR-Extreme,,my phone is asus rog 2,android version : 9..hope you can help me...
I still get HDR Extreme after the update, I'm Android 10 though. I still prefer to play Smooth 90fps using this method https://youtu.be/JELUP0Ku49Q (using it for a while now, perfectly safe).
My ID you can add me up: 544941230