Smallest QC3.0 Battery Bank Over 6000 Mah? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories

What are some of the best and smallest QC 3.0 battery packs over 6000 mah?

krazieboy said:
What are some of the best and smallest QC 3.0 battery packs over 6000 mah?
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There's this new site called ash an Amazon, you should check it out

..... sooo helpful.. OMG i didn't know! .... ass.

I've been really happy with this one, which is QC 3.0 and 10,000mAh:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JIYWUBA
It's a pretty compact size, not much larger than a credit card and maybe about as tall as a quarter?
The ONLY downside is that you can't quickcharge the unit itself, so it takes forever to charge it up, but once you do, it'll quickcharge your phone roughly 3 times.

NickSaul said:
I've been really happy with this one, which is QC 3.0 and 10,000mAh:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JIYWUBA
It's a pretty compact size, not much larger than a credit card and maybe about as tall as a quarter?
The ONLY downside is that you can't quickcharge the unit itself, so it takes forever to charge it up, but once you do, it'll quickcharge your phone roughly 3 times.
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the size looks pretty good actually. do u know if they had a model that does away from the micro usb. prefer to use usb c to charge power bank.

krazieboy said:
the size looks pretty good actually. do u know if they had a model that does away from the micro usb. prefer to use usb c to charge power bank.
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Not that I know of, maybe there's an updated version.

I'm used to phones with removable batteries, and now that i'm getting the note 8.. been a bit worried about lack of power. lol. so really do want a small portable one that's qc. thanks
anyone can recommend any other ones?

krazieboy said:
What are some of the best and smallest QC 3.0 battery packs over 6000 mah?
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This is a 1k mah smaller, but it's a lipstick size. What's good about this, is that you can replace the battery yourself.
$15.46 FREE shipping.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUK...5.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000015.1.5rliOR&s=p
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This is a 1k mah smaller, but it's a lipstick size. What's good about this, is that you can replace the battery yourself.
$15.46 FREE shipping.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUK...5.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000015.1.5rliOR&s=p
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I actually owned that one. it was never able to give me a full charge on my V20.

krazieboy said:
I actually owned that one. it was never able to give me a full charge on my V20.
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Hmmmm, strange. V20 is 3200mah. It should fully charged no problem. I'm using it on my note 7 and s8+ and charges fully and with little power left.

NickSaul said:
I've been really happy with this one, which is QC 3.0 and 10,000mAh:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JIYWUBA
It's a pretty compact size, not much larger than a credit card and maybe about as tall as a quarter?
The ONLY downside is that you can't quickcharge the unit itself, so it takes forever to charge it up, but once you do, it'll quickcharge your phone roughly 3 times.
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I also have had good experiences with this product. This is the smallest 10k mAh product and has a size that fits in a shirt pocket. It is a bit thick but light enough. It can fill my S7 edge more than 1x when full charged, but I normally charge it after 1x charge. LOL, thought the non QC charging of the battery pack was a defect on mine. That is a pain since some of the other products I have used work with quick charge on charging. Hope they fix it with the next revision.

This is super slim
10,050 mAH and very slim
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thanks! looks like i'm prolly gonna get one of those!

Related

Alternate Emergency Power for HD2

Just Mobile PP-08 Gum Pro 4400mAh Power Pack
I purchased the power pack from eBuyer for roughly £35(inc. pp) and received it 2 days ago, and managed to get 2 full charges and an extra 44% battery life for the HD2.
The 2nd full charge I left the HD2 on and surfed the internet and played a 8 min video on youtube.
The pack itself takes about 3 hours to charge using a mini usb lead however I did not use the laptop/computer to charge the unit. I had a old blackberry charger hanging around with a mini usb connector and charged it up from the mains. Online reviews do state that the unit takes roughly 3 hours to charge anyway.
I did look at other battery packs (energizer, phillips, kensington, etc etc.) but couldnt find any deals for the same amount of power. Just thought i'd post this little gadget on the forum just incase anyone out there uses the phone / travel a lot.
Let me know if anyone has used this brand/model before and how you got on with it.
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Energizer for me...
I plan to use my old Energizer "Energi-to-go". It worked great on my old Kaiser & Touch Pro. I ordered a new tip ($2.99) from batteries.com last night for the new micro usb port.
How often can you charge your HD2 with this energizer power pack?
(with 2 AA-NiMH 2200 mAh rechargeable batteries)
Is there a way to calculate this when you know the capacity and voltage of the batteries?
Bib_x said:
How often can you charge your HD2 with this energizer power pack?
(with 2 AA-NiMH 2200 mAh rechargeable batteries)
Is there a way to calculate this when you know the capacity and voltage of the batteries?
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I'd expect you'd get atleast 1 charge (minimum).. Normally rechargable AA are around the 1.2/3v mark and will kick out 2200mAh at the rated voltage for an hour.
Im not really sure what the actual HD2 running voltage is... You'd have a more realistic figure that way.
hd2 battery is 1230 mAh and 3.7 V
Bib_x said:
hd2 battery is 1230 mAh and 3.7 V
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Yes but, the HD2 doesnt always use 1230mAh 3.7v.. The battery is capable of outputting 1230mA at 3.7v for one Hour straight.
1230 mAh is the capacity of the battery on 3.7 Volt.
If i use 3 rechargable batterys (AA with 2200 mAh) then i have about 2200 mAh at about 3.6 Volt. So i can charge nearly 2 times - is this right?
With only 2 batterys it would be about 1 time and a little bit more.
Is my calculating right?
I bought this on eBay a while back .. £2.99 I beleive. It takes 4 standard AA batteries.
The two mini to micro USB adapters were bought from netimes along with another order.
No idea how much extra charge it gives but with a couple of packs of rechargeable 2700 mAh batteries in my bag and more available in the shops I'm not too fussed.
Bib_x said:
1230 mAh is the capacity of the battery on 3.7 Volt.
If i use 3 rechargable batterys (AA with 2200 mAh) then i have about 2200 mAh at about 3.6 Volt. So i can charge nearly 2 times - is this right?
With only 2 batterys it would be about 1 time and a little bit more.
Is my calculating right?
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From my understanding yes, if not and someone else can enlighten us.. But theres one problem, you should'nt use a flat battery with a charged up battery, it'll run the charged battery down really fast.
Always use a battery thats charged at the same level.

Ultra Portable Battery Pack

Hopefully someone here can help. I absolutely love my s6 Edge. What I don't love is the battery life. Today I took it off the charger at 6:40am. By 3pm I was down to 31%. I fully charged it and at 11:20pm I'm down to 18%. I'm looking for an ultra portable charger. Something small that can give me one full charge. Small enough to fit in my pocket and wouldn't be noticeable or uncomfortable. Preferably with a built in cord.
ILowry282 said:
Hopefully someone here can help. I absolutely love my s6 Edge. What I don't love is the battery life. Today I took it off the charger at 6:40am. By 3pm I was down to 31%. I fully charged it and at 11:20pm I'm down to 18%. I'm looking for an ultra portable charger. Something small that can give me one full charge. Small enough to fit in my pocket and wouldn't be noticeable or uncomfortable. Preferably with a built in cord.
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I placed order for iMuca external power case. It looks slim and offers 2000mah battery. See if it is interesting for you!
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ILowry282 said:
Hopefully someone here can help. I absolutely love my s6 Edge. What I don't love is the battery life. Today I took it off the charger at 6:40am. By 3pm I was down to 31%. I fully charged it and at 11:20pm I'm down to 18%. I'm looking for an ultra portable charger. Something small that can give me one full charge. Small enough to fit in my pocket and wouldn't be noticeable or uncomfortable. Preferably with a built in cord.
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Something is draining your phone battery, I can go all day without a problem and get 6hrs ost.
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2swizzle said:
Something is draining your phone battery, I can go all day without a problem and get 6hrs ost.
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Wow! 6 hours? That's just regular use? Can you screenshot that for me?
2swizzle said:
Something is draining your phone battery, I can go all day without a problem and get 6hrs ost.
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wow. thats impressive. what carrier are you running? did you change any settings?
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ILowry282 said:
Hopefully someone here can help. I absolutely love my s6 Edge. What I don't love is the battery life. Today I took it off the charger at 6:40am. By 3pm I was down to 31%. I fully charged it and at 11:20pm I'm down to 18%. I'm looking for an ultra portable charger. Something small that can give me one full charge. Small enough to fit in my pocket and wouldn't be noticeable or uncomfortable. Preferably with a built in cord.
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http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-10000mAh-Portable-External-Supported/dp/B00UBDI7EC
best portable battery charger. it has Qualcomm's fast charge 2.0 to charge your phone and it will charge itself using fast charge too. its also aluminum.
I have the LithiumCard and love it for it's portability.
http://linearflux.com/lithiumcard/main.html
The PRO will charge the S6 Edge fully once. The regular LithiumCard will give the phone about a 40% - 45% charge which is usually more than enough to get me through the rest of the day should I need a quick top off. Best thing is they have a built in USB plug for charging (can do pass-through charging) as well as a micro-usb so you don't need to carry any extra cables. They charge the phone fairly quickly also.
When I want a little more juice that can do two full charges, I carry this. It's a bit bulkier than the LithiumCard (but in no way considered bulky compared to other power banks, IMO) and it usually stays in my backpack/briefcase/etc. This also supports Quick Charge 2.0 (Fast Charge)
http://ape-battery.en.alibaba.com/p...comm_Quick_Charge_2_0_power_bank_MP5200Q.html
http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte®-Portable-External-Battery-Zenfone/dp/B00XDNBJCO
Just wanted to post this 3000mAh lipstick sized battery back-up. It has worked great for us and we have used it for about 3 to 4 months now. It was one of the only really small sized 2.1A battery back-ups I could find. There are a few listed here so if you like it make sure to select the one that currently costs $12.99 the others are only 1A chargers. We like this one so much I have ordered 4 to give away as gifts.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GAVCNZI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
Here is a pic of the one we purchased...
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This is what I use.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KT26W0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_1alLvbKSVF0VT
Plus keychain cable.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSIDEDI/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_FclLvbRJ1W4G2
does anyone know if there is a fast charge power pack with at least 15000mah capacity with a screen saying output and charge left? big ask?
been researching for a long time and haven't found one that actually states it has all of the above…
Kur0ya said:
does anyone know if there is a fast charge power pack with at least 15000mah capacity with a screen saying output and charge left? big ask?
been researching for a long time and haven't found one that actually states it has all of the above…
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I have just ordered this and will review it when it arrives. I had the aukey but didn't like that for a battery that size it only had one usb output. This one also supports QC2.0 to charge the pack itself.
http://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-1560...487&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+quick+charge+2.0
I used a custom ROM because I wasn't interested in wasting money on a charging case. If you take the time to read up on that stuff it's actually very useful and free! My battery has never been better.
I would send you a link but I'm new to the XDA group.
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I've never had bad battery life on my S6 Edge. Although, when I need a backup I can recommend the Aukey Quick Charge battery pack.
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Spare Battery brought from ebay.

An update for a battery I brought 3 week ago for $8. This seller from ebay is batteries specialist. I can see it is LG COPY but its contain Li-ion. Its can do quick charge and wireless charging. The temperature is colder than original. Just not sure its can hold the charge. Probably need 2 to 3 charge cycle then can tell. Its came with about 56% Charge when power up.The label said 无品牌 meaning brandless. I usually uses my car quick charge 2.0 charger or Aukey 100000 mAh Power bank to charge when outdoor. Hope its will not explode xddddddd.
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What battery monitor app is that one youre using?
clockcycle said:
What battery monitor app is that one youre using?
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Battery monitor widget
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How long the warranty?
sever-barre said:
How long the warranty?
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Why want warranty for a price like this?
Would you mind posting a picture of the top of the battery, where the connectors are? On the original I got a white dot, next to the edge, which is not present on the spare one. Also, I got mine from Amazon UK, it's stated as original, but curiously the date of production is exactly the same as yours (2015.05.27<L>). I think it could be the same label coming from the same vendor, since it's literally a perfect copy of the one in yours, which is a tiny bit different from the one on my OEM battery. I paid mine £15 (23$ more or less), which would be a shame for a fake. The good thing is that it holds the charge good so far (3rd cycle), it doesn't get warmer than the original one, and the nfc is working flawlessly. I was actually sure it was an original one until I popped in your topic.
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Would you mind posting a picture of the top of the battery, where the connectors are? On the original I got a white dot, next to the edge, which is not present on the spare one. Also, I got mine from Amazon UK, it's stated as original, but curiously the date of production is exactly the same as yours (2015.05.27). I think it could be the same label coming from the same vendor, since it's literally a perfect copy of the one in yours, which is a tiny bit different from the one on my OEM battery. I paid mine £15 (23$ more or less), which would be a shame for a fake. The good thing is that it holds the charge good so far (3rd cycle), it doesn't get warmer than the original one, and the nfc is working flawlessly. I was actually sure it was an original one until I popped in your topic.
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I am afraid you have the same as mine.
The label on the battery does not produced clear Print and its doesn't have a white dot near the connector. I don't have the chance to really test it but you said its hold charge that good news.
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Can you compare the battery life of the original and the one you bought with that seller?
1st option. try watching movie, or video recording for hours. and measure how it will long for both of the batteries. (just to know if they are both 3000mah or which one will last longer). The original battery will be the controlled standard and asummed 3000mah.
2nd option, just play one movie, (same movie same volume level and same brightness level) for both. start from same percentage level of the battery. After, compare battery level and the how much was lost.
3rd option, record UHD video , pointing towards a wall, the same wall for both, and record and dont interrupt for 20 mins maybe? start from same percentage level of the battery. After, compare battery level and how much was lost.
If you only have time, friend
Hi rogconnect
What is the name of the seller on eBay with these batteries? I am looking for a replacement also
Thanks
Barlo1
Barlo1 said:
Hi rogconnect
What is the name of the seller on eBay with these batteries? I am looking for a replacement also
Thanks
Barlo1
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eBay member: 86755
Seriously, this battery don't hold charge and drain fast. I already dump it.
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Smaller Wall Quick Chargers

(reposting some stuff I wrote in the old joint "Quark" forum, now that we are separate from the Droid Turbo Quark forum.)
timofcourse said:
Has anyone come across other wall Quick chargers that are smaller / lower profile than the motorola one? Looking for something a bit more conducive to traveling with.
Thanks!
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silverfoxbrazil said:
i would like to have one smaller too
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I bought two of these and love them:
$13.99
(Quick Charge 2.0)Qualcomm Certified CHOE 18W Adaptive Fast Charger Turbo Charger with Qualcomm Technology
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Adaptive-Technology-Motorola/dp/B00QTJZ3D0
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The charger above has a slimmer profile on a power strip than the Motorola "fat" pack (pictured below).
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That's interesting because from the photo you posted it looks to be just about as wide as the Moto charger across the face with the prongs. On Delta MD-88 particularly the faces hits the bevels and the blades dont go in all the way to make consistent contact.
But truthfully I forgot that I am holding out looking a QC2.0 true "travel" charger that has international tips. that isn't wide as a bus or at least the tips push the bulk away from the blades. Thankfully they have replaced nearly all those deep recessed outlets that were on B767 which I assume you took to Brazil..
So any ones with travel tips?
The other pictures on Amazon of the one you posted definitely show it look smaller profile on the prong face. So I can see it is in the right size range. now to find an international one.
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Just telling you it worked for me.
On the way down I used just the charger, as is.
Coming back, I had high quality Brazilian plug adapter still connected to the charger (from using it in Brazil), so I kept that on while charging on the Delta flight back. Didn't see the need to remove the adapter, and possibly lose it.
You can buy one of those and there's your travel tips.
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Another nice thing about the charger I found it is it automatically detects voltage and adjusts as needed. 100 volts - 240 volts. All the outlets in the charging stands at the Sao Paulo airport were 220 volts, while residential Sao Paulo uses 127 volts. Before I plugged it into the airport charging stand, I went back to the Amazon description just to make sure I wasn't about to burn up my phone or the charger...
The original Samsung Galaxy S6's is super slim and supports fast charge as well. Tested on my XT1225, and my Moto charger on my friend's S6. They both perform exactly the same.
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The original Samsung Galaxy S6's is super slim and supports fast charge as well. Tested on my XT1225, and my Moto charger on my friend's S6. They both perform exactly the same.
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Yes, they both use the Qualcomm standard Quick Charge 2.0. Motorola just calls it "Turbo Charging", but it's really just Quick Charge 2.0. Any certified Quick Charge 2.0 (or even 3.0) charger will work. Here's a Qualcomm PDF showing a list of 3.0 and 2.0 devices. Both Samsung Galaxy S6 series and Droid Turbo (Quark, so also Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo) are listed as being Quick Charge 2.0. I already knew that from reviews when I bought the phone, but there it is also from Qualcomm who makes the Snapdragon chipsets.
This year a lot of phones are using the newer Quick Charge 3.0. All the new Quick Charge 3.0 chargers are backwards-compatible with 2.0 and 1.0 phones:
Introducing Quick Charge 3.0: next-generation fast charging technology
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapd...e-30-next-generation-fast-charging-technology
So, no worries about buying a 3.0 charger in the future if happen to buy one. Our phone will still charge at 2.0 speeds, but it won't hurt it to be charged with a 3.0 charger.
In the opposite direction, OnePlus is using proprietary chargers for their OnePlus 3. It is NOT any Qualcomm Quick Charge standard, like 2.0 or 3.0. It's something they made up and you have to use their overpriced chargers with that phone. This was after last year, when their laughable so-called "flagship killer" OnePlus 2 phone didn't have Quick Charge nor NFC. This year, they at least included NFC, but they still don't have REAL Quick Charge -- they have their own "Dash Charge", but you use their own cables and adapter ($35, but now on sale for only $33!).
No thanks.
Just ordered this VERY small QuickCharge 2.0 wall charger for my wife to use at work
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Size: 1.89 x 1.97 x 1.1 in (48 x 50 x 28 mm)
The price is GREAT.
KMASHI USB Quick Charge 2.0 Wall Charger ($5.99)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010RNBOKE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

25W Charging? What happened to the 45W?

Accessories are always a wild card. Did we really just drop the 45W charging feature on the Note 20/ Ultra? Specs only listing the 25W. I have the official 45W accessory and other chargers that support the proper profiles for the PPS to work. Seems like wasted tech at this point.
Or is there something I'm missing?
Keep it for when it is reintroduced next year. If the rumors prove right we might have to purchase chargers separately anyway (or make do with old ones)
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Keep it for when it is reintroduced next year. If the rumors prove right we might have to purchase chargers separately anyway (or make do with old ones)
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it does come with an adapter for charging,/ charging block
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5g Ultra 512gb does
skygear said:
it does come with an adapter for charging,/ charging block
5g Ultra 512gb does
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Long may it last! Future development rumor is what I was talking about
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Long may it last! Future development rumor is what I was talking about
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ah, yeah. I read the articles as well..
I'm currently using one of the HyperJuice 100W for my devices https://www.kickstarter.com/project...t-100w-gan-charger/posts/2919125?ref=activity
and this one on order https://www.kickstarter.com/project...t-100w-gan-charger/posts/2909520?ref=activity
That HyperJuice looks cool, but from the comments, it looks like people are having random issues with the charger and actually getting the charger..... I have been happy with Anker chargers anyway. I already have their newer PD car charger like 38 or 42 watts or what ever it is. I have not upgraded my wall chargers from Anker yet..... I am waiting for a 6 port USB C PD charger, but I doubt that will come out for a while because it would need to be over 100 watts.
samsung really watered down the note this year 45w charging is just one of the compromises on this device unfortunately.
not that there was a huge difference in 25 and 45 w charging times but thats not the point. The Note is supposed to be the workhorse the flagship so they should not be removing features.
force70 said:
samsung really watered down the note this year 45w charging is just one of the compromises on this device unfortunately.
not that there was a huge difference in 25 and 45 w charging times but thats not the point. The Note is supposed to be the workhorse the flagship so they should not be removing features.
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I'm wondering is that a software flip they can make to enable it. I bought one for our two N10+ and when I need a lot of charge in a pinch, it delivers. I have it in the kitchen as central location. Forgot to charge it at night, getting ready in the morning, running down to 5%...set it for 15-20 minutes and we're good.
I don't know what crawled up Samsungs back side but it seems like we're being prepped for loss of features as a bonus for premium prices.
Headphone jack
FM Antenna
45watt charging
smaller storage
smaller battery
wired earphones
and soon to be charging brick.
Personally I'd like them to ditch the curved edges.
rosedog said:
I'm wondering is that a software flip they can make to enable it. I bought one for our two N10+ and when I need a lot of charge in a pinch, it delivers. I have it in the kitchen as central location. Forgot to charge it at night, getting ready in the morning, running down to 5%...set it for 15-20 minutes and we're good.
I don't know what crawled up Samsungs back side but it seems like we're being prepped for loss of features as a bonus for premium prices.
Headphone jack
FM Antenna
45watt charging
smaller storage
smaller battery
wired earphones
and soon to be charging brick.
Personally I'd like them to ditch the curved edges.
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Don't forget the IR blaster!
PsiPhiDan said:
Don't forget the IR blaster!
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Those were so much fun at the bar. Nothing like being able to turn off tennis and put on baseball without having to ask, LOL.
Snowleopard1900 said:
That HyperJuice looks cool, but from the comments, it looks like people are having random issues with the charger and actually getting the charger..... I have been happy with Anker chargers anyway. I already have their newer PD car charger like 38 or 42 watts or what ever it is. I have not upgraded my wall chargers from Anker yet..... I am waiting for a 6 port USB C PD charger, but I doubt that will come out for a while because it would need to be over 100 watts.
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Just remember. When you're dealing with happy people, they tend not to post about it. When you're dealing with upset people, they tend to scream from the rooftops in our heard the loudest. Same with posting online...
I've had mine for a while now, and no issues at all with the hyperjuice. some of the edges were little sharper than I liked, I simply sanded them down and no issues.
The only real complaint I had was, it didn't support the full Gambit of USB PD profiles. So no PPS like Samsung was touting. Now that other one by CIO does support PPS and all the other standards. That one is really exciting to me
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Those were so much fun at the bar. Nothing like being able to turn off tennis and put on baseball without having to ask, LOL.
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[emoji817] 100% I've been preaching and asking for the ir port to be brought back. I stuck with my note 4 through many generations until I killed it and couldn't get parts anymore for it.
@rosedog
Has to have the proper chipset #1
And also has to have compatible battery chemistry. The thicker charging leads on the boards, thermal sensors. Etc. Could be there. Guess we will find out soon enough with teardowns.
i bought a used alcatel 7, it has IR.
i carry it when i go travel, to change hotel tv input so i can stream my video.

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