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Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
They are active over at pocketGPSworld and seem legit, although given Expansys aren't claiming to have an in-stock date I'd be a little dubious about stock coming in Wednesday.
Do let us know what you do
Gordon
Thanks Gordon.
I don't really believe the availability date, they have other HTC phones with the same date given for availability so it's probably just a general day when they receive their HTC shipments or something.
The P4550 page looks a bit out of date - a couple of the specs (GPS chip, RAM) look like they're taken from old information, so I'm guessing the availability date is a little way out as well. I've been waiting since January though, so a bit longer wont hurt.
They've got quite a good score on DealTime but I'm never sure whether to trust those sorts of sites, I'm happier listening to forum opinions, so unless I see a load of negative opinion, I'll probably go with them later this week - but I think I'll use PayPal or Google Checkout for a little extra peace of mind.
Seems they have removed the phone now as cannot see it on there site.
Superiorgadgets is taking pre-orders
http://www.superiorgadgets.com/ca/product_info.php?products_id=224
Couple of suggestions
I've used these guys before:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
and these guys have been around for ages!
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
Gordon
Expansys
I used expansys sometimes it is a great seller so i ask me why they don`t accept pre-order for the Kaiser... You can pre-order a iphone too wich nobody knows when it will be aviable in Europe....
Another one taking pre-orders
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-P4550
Another pre-order HERE
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
evolution_theory said:
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
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check link agian it costs now : $766.50
This product will be in stock on Thursday 20 September, 2007.?!?!? Well not so quickly
It was supposed to june in Asia, then delayed til Aug, now most probably will be Sep however will want HTC to iron out the details first before we get our hands on one, don't really wish to be a guniea pig tester
kaiserchief said:
Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
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I used superetraders to get my ETEN M700, they were very helpful with the order (complicated with a cc registered in one country and delivery to another country). The device arrived within the time they said and the phone had had a pre-sales check - I never got any of the problems that seemd to plague others!
I can heartily recommend them!
Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
Well I placed my oredr with Superetrader and payment was taken straight out of my account because I (stupidly, it seems) used Google Checkout.
Google Checkout showed my P4550 as "Posted" but, as noted earlier in this thread, Superetrader then took the P4550 off their site.
A few e-mails later trying to figure out what was really going on, Superetrader have confirmed that the release date has slipped to "Hopefully late July or early August". Shame I had to pay for the thing way in advance, but I'm hopeless with money so at least I know it's paid for and will be on it's way asap.
Moral is avoid Google Checkout! I have no problem with Superetrader, but the whole process has been complicated by Google and their fledgling payment service, which clearly needs a bit of ironing out.
Kaiser on ebay
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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$1350?!?!?! I hope that is packed full of gold and various high-quality jewels.
Pre-Release Phone Sold
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Sorry guys, phone is sold... to ME
Yer it is slightly expensive.. but I am going to salary sacrifice it.. trusty tax cut so overall it wont be that bad.
Can't wait till it gets here! Tho it will be a few days cos its coming to Aus..
- Syrius
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Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
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I have an email confirming that the delivery date is scheduled for the fisrt week of September.
www.calculatorking.com.au
I bought my O2 Mini from these guys so they are very reputable.
Hi to all,
I want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and I was really satisfy about service so I decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site I saw that two models are available but I was interested only in the completely white one so I ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day I release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6USD due to account limitation) on next order that I'll never do cause It's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6USD) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so I asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.S. attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
Sorry for what happened
i faced the same problem they listed a phone with high specification at a high price yet it was just specifications hacked in kernel the phone was not of quality as it was priced i bought it at USD 295 yet other phones of exact spec without hacking kernels were at USD 165 so if you are buying online its better you buy from sites with payments protections like escrow of aliexpress as the product i bought there was real coz it had to wait for my confirmation the payments to be made which force the sellers to be sure of what they are doing.
In fact the item was shipped with very low prices i never requested for which led me to be over taxed as the tax authority had to do it by themselves.
Do NOT FALL VICTIM
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
i have read and others have complains for same problems (just google it )
i was about to buy from them but it think i will consider it twice
the posthumous fame[/B] should be re-considered by all Internet Shops
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
10 post noobs everywhere!
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rubbering said:
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
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Here's one I busted on aPad.tv.com forum; regarding Hyundai T7 Exynos 4 quad-core processor Tablet PC:
me: I ordered 1 a week ago. It was supposed to have been in stock, but when I checked on the status it was still unshipped. I was beginning to wonder if the T7 even existed; so what aPadTVadmin said about them being in stock, makes since now. I guess most of these online stores get all their stuff drop-shipped, am I assuming correct?
aPadTVadmin: I spoke to DP a couple of days ago regarding the T7 for another reason and all T7 units have been shipped out. This was Thursday. If you ordered 1 week ago it would have shipped out nearly same day. I witnessed with my own eyes a large stock of T7 Hyundais being processed for shipping out last time I visited there.
Please give me your order number so I can validate it and check with them for you.
me: BUNCH OF SCAM ARTISTS! I contacted the manufacturer today and found out that they don't even start shipping them until March 7th, 2013. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE EVEN HAS T7'S YET, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ENGINEERING SAMPLES THAT WENT OUT. SO MUCH FOR SEEING THEM WITH YOUR OWN EYES... MORE LIKE LYING OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.
GadgetGreats.com, DealsPrime.com aPadtv; ALL ONE OF THE SAME; SCAMMERS! Also AD PANDAWILL.COM TO THE LIST OF SCAMMERS, INCLUDING EVERBUYING.COM
ALWAYS PAY W/PAYPAL, IN 7 DAYS IF THEY HAVEN'T UPLOADED A TRACEABLE TRACKING #, PAYPAL PUTS A HOLD ON THE PAYMENT,
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icestage said:
hi to all,
i want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and i was really satisfy about service so i decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site i saw that two models are available but i was interested only in the completely white one so i ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day i release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6usd due to account limitation) on next order that i'll never do cause it's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6usd) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so i asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.s. Attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
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this guy who wrote this is also part of the scam; he want's you think that the company actually ships a good product, while the truth is, what you'll get is an imitation of the product you order, if at all that; these guys are all in cahoots, and they're on every forum & youtube video out there. They are good at what they do & once they ship the inferior product, if you return it, you lost all your money, point blank.
aliexpress.com is the best site to buy tablets/phones from china. they have buyer protection, and the money isn't released from your account till you confirm the device is received and working.
Scam
I ran into the FCT trap too. Should have done some more research beforehand .
I ordered an HDC Note 3 clone from them and paid through Paypal. They provided a Singapore shipping number and the next day told me the phone is out of stock and was not shipped. Meaning a fake shipping number was provided. The same time the same phone is still listed on their website as "in stock" and questions of potential customers are answered.
They told me to choose an alternative phone which I did with another HDC N9002. 35$ more expensive which difference I paid. They did not ship, after a number of reminders they however provided again the same (!) fake shipping number as before. So the item was never ever intended to be shipped. They play for time and money to get over the 45 days to launch a Paypal dispute. So be careful.
Currently a dispute for full refund is ongoing.
Stay away from these scammers!
SCAM artists
I'm also getting countless fake shipping numbers regarding broken tablet that I actually received from them.
Beware of FCT!
They are always delaying with shipping (some items they never ship). Their policy is to provide a bit lower prices than the others at first sight and then add extra fees for nothing and eventually ship the item you ordered when it is already outdated.
Fake shipping numbers are their method of delay.
FCT
I recently ordered from FCT and of course before reading all the forums of countless individuals who have been scammed or dooped by these guys.
Anyway after 2 weeks from placing my order I received a tracking number followed by another tracking number 2 days later (weird), then a week later it was scanned into the U.S, 2 or so more days it actually arrived at my door!!! (bing bong)
I was pretty stoked however, once I opened my package (HDC GT N9000 Note3) one thing was missing ...No stylus!! so after numerous calls to these guys via Skype (preferred and only method to contact them) I finally speak to a man who tells me that if I buy another phone they would include the stylus plus a gift free of charge....wait the phone was advertised to include this?? blah blah something shipping he began to ramble on about.... all n all pointless
I'm now a month into having my phone which appears to be pretty effin exact to the Note3 however yesterday my phone just disconnected from my network and will not re-connect. I cannot reach a soul at this place leaving me with a fancy mini internet tab/paperweight/possibly shooting target..
Basically they were great until I gave them my money and the phone is awesome however customer service is a huge key to running any successful business and this is something they LACK.....
GOOD LUCK!
how do you use ems tracking
beefgalore said:
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i actually order a week ago and in Monday they send me a tracking number that says no information also... starting to suspect a bit weird 3 days and no tracking....
Fingers crossed..........
Regards FRZ
The title is a little misleading, as I was unable to actually purchase anything, but I think it gets my point across for the most part.
For a company as big as Google to botch two consecutive high profile product launches has me scratching my head. First, why would Google not let eager, and most probably loyal, customers simply pre-order the N4? That way they could gauge interest, and if there was a back log, they could just tell pre-order customers their N4s would be delivered at a later date. Sure there might have been disappointment for backlogged orders, but at least they'd know when they would be receiving their N4s.
Second, why on earth would you make us jump through hoops to find out when exactly the N4 would be launching? If it weren't for the persistence of your dedicated fan base, we would never have know if the launch was at 12am pst, 9am pst, or all the other times inbetween. Even the generally accepted launch time of 12am pst was pushed back for 9am pst in NA, but you botched that too by opening preorders at 8:30am pst. WTF! Not to mention the staggered release times in Europe and Australia.
If Android wasn't such a kick ass operating system, I'd probably just pick up a Lumia 920, but you have most of us by the balls, and you seem to know it.
Seriously though, I just want a product launch that doesn't suck. It doesn't have to be awesome, it just has to make me not want to kill myself.
Not much you can do when you get DDoS'd by worldwide over-demand.
It is the worst I've seen for a store front!!
So make a thread about it..!
Along with every other large thread out there.
They should have imposed a 2 phone limit on all people and used there IP address to prevent purchasing more.
What's happening is people are buying 10+ and selling them on eBay at a 200% mark-up.
AlexWekell said:
They should have imposed a 2 phone limit on all people and used there IP address to prevent purchasing more.
What's happening is people are buying 10+ and selling them on eBay at a 200% mark-up.
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Whats wrpng with that? We do not live in a communist country during 1950.
Please continue discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962514
Going to start by saying PLEASE DON"T TURN THIS INTO AN ATTEMPT AT A SHIPPING STATUS THREAD
OK - I've been silent enough and think now's the time when I weigh in. I'm a logistics guy that worked for a mobile device manufacturer for 14 years, and currently stuck in queue as part of the Nov 27th US sale date. I will summarize the likely scenarios for the uninitiated, and those that flat out haven't been following the saga on the previous million posts to the shipping info thread - good info there but getting buried in "mine shipped today" posts.
We have in US 4 parties in the Supply Chain: Google, LG, UPS Logistics and the angry mob of customers.
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So Google exists in the cloud - taking orders (sometimes), processing payments (haphazardly), communicating (ha!) status info to customers, creating individual shipments & associating those shipments into a consolidated manifest that they transmit to UPS, and dropping purchase orders to LG for devices. Basically looking like this:
What is unclear is:
Does Google have just one massive PO that LG is attempting to build and ship against, and thus may be the fundamental reason why we have no inclination at all about shipment dates?
If it is broken down, how closely is Google managing their PO schedule lines and why aren't they communicating information publicly?
Odds are Google owns the inventory as soon as it leaves LGs docks - knowing the way UPS logistics works, they likely have segregated inventory pools, and likely 2 separate pick/ship areas. Inventory pools are by use IE round 1 orders, round 2 orders and customer satisfaction/warranty. Pick/ship is broken into some attempt at FIFO sales order managed queue, and RMA/replacement device/pissed off customer satiating. Question here is who is controlling what shipments from LG go into what pool, Google? UPS? The guy on the forklift? Important implication for (4) below
Google is transmitting order info to UPS, tracking numbers get assigned, and whole groups of tracking numbers get assigned to a manifest to be wave picked and processed. Whether Google is doing this or UPS is doing this really just depends on how the contract was written. The speculation is coming from how manifested orders are getting assigned to those pools of inventory - is there really a pool/sale date tie, is it FIFO/LIFO in one big vat, or FIFO/LIFO by pool assignment?
IMO here's how things should be working - meaning Google should be directing how inventory gets into which bucket for processing and also what that processing order is:
And so here begins my open letter to Google:
Your purchasing department/buyers better be riding LG like a horse, managing those schedule lines. Not doing so is the quickest way to guarantee continued loss of customer faith in the backend. Me coming from a mobile device manufacturing arena - either you guys just totally blew the forecast, LG has totally overstated their manufacturing capacity (shame on Goog for not sending IEs in to verify it), or there is such a high manufacturing failure rate in final test.... The last one scares the hell out of me since I'm in the process of handing you $700. FIX IT. You own it.
Your group managing accessory fulfillment needs a 3 Stooges style realignment of attitude as well. You may as well just pull the bumpers off the website and say "we have no accessories at this time". We get kinda pissed when you dangle nice things in front of us and we can't have them. PS - where the hell are the orbs? YOUR MARGIN IN ACCESSORIES IS HUGE. There is no excuse - how long has the Nex4 been in your product roadmap? FIX IT. You own it.
Likewise the person that is liasing with UPS Logistics needs a stern talking to. Either there's no direction of the inbound inventory causing good inventory to go to pools out of order, bad communication of order management info to UPS, or UPS is just in the weeds doing the pick/ship. I'm inclined to believe it's the first - the implication is that if orders are transmitted to UPS in batches or manifests and assigned to a pool, they get picked shipped FIFO by pool only when inventory arrives and gets put in the rack (which seems to be what we are seeing). Somebody dumps inventory into pool 3, and December orders start shipping before November ones. FIX IT. You own it.
Oh yeah - given the price point of these items - can you please send everything signature required? I know your contract declared value per shipment is probably set at like $100, and you are playing the numbers game - what's your true device cost vs how many get lost. But it sucks for that ONE customer whose been waiting 7 weeks to get their tracking number, a delivery notification, and comes home to find an empty porch. I can't begin to describe the suckage that person feels. At most it will cost you $1 per shipment, and make us all very happy and our fault if we say "no go ahead, driver release it" and it disappears. Bad enough us UPS MyChoice people have to try and redirect shipments before the first attempt anyway...
Your project manager for this product launch and your IT service managers for both the Play store and Wallet either have their heads in the ground for what their true capacity for order management is, or you didn't give them the budget to make the systems & services robust enough to handle what happened. Twice. Not saying someone here needs to fry, but I personally tried to order first round, had devices fail getting into my cart 4 times, cart itself crashed twice, and Wallet just continually was vomiting. Second round devices went into cart smoother, but cart did crash twice. The Wallet handoff went ok this second time. However, there's an distinct lack of flexibility in being able to manage payment after order confirmation but before product shipment. Orders are taking so long that my credit card expired and I had to activate a replacement. Fine, I update payment methods, but it didn't flow through to the order. Your CSRs advice to me? Cancel your order and re-enter one. ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME? Somebody needs to take a deeper look at the tier 1 call center scripts, and maybe take a harder look at allowing things to go to tier 2 a little more often. FIX IT. You own it.
Lastly, your relationship management with us is sucking balls at the moment. Lack of information to us allows us to fester and boil blood in environments like this - and causes people like me to come out of the woodwork. I'm not a Google hater, I think you are driving innovation further with every single product you unveil. I don't resent that you knocked my old employers private parts in the dirt - shame on them for not paying attention. I do hate that you also are falling in the trap that most in the mobile device arena do - know your end customers expectations and be there for us. We hate the carrier subsidy market as much as you do. We're willing to hand you their part of the margin so that we don't have to put up with their bloatware. We LOVE the open developer community you have built for us. We really want to show off our new phones and say eff you Apple fan boys, look what I got. We are trying to hand you our hard earned money. Please give us a Merry Christmas.
To the folks that may get a bit of a smackdown for anything I wrote above - sorry. But ya gotta scream and yell on our behalf, or we're going to scream and yell on our behalf. Keep fighting, learn from any mistakes made, and move forward - not just onward. I wish y'all continued prosperity and a Happy Holidays.
Now give me a tracking number.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you haven't received your Nexus yet?
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In all seriousness it's an enormous logistical fail of epic proportions. LG and Google are pretty big names so it begs all sorts of "how" and "why" questions that could make one go crazy...Any excuses really are almost unfathomable. There isn't one good reason that things shouldn't have been brought back on track by now. Any big launch can have problems. But typically they're remedied fast enough to be forgotten about.
RealiZms said:
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you haven't received your Nexus yet?
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RealiZms said:
In all seriousness it's an enormous logistical fail of epic proportions. LG and Google are pretty big names so it begs all sorts of "how" and "why" questions that could make one go crazy...Any excuses really are almost unfathomable. There isn't one good reason that things shouldn't have been brought back on track by now. Any big launch can have problems. But typically they're remedied fast enough to be forgotten about.
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Agreed - typically. I guess that's the puzzling part for me, it's seemingly just not getting better. As a barometer, the pace of posts in the shipping thread has slowed a bit for sure, but lawdy it still grows, and new horror stories still being added. And non-US folks are showing it's a systemic issue. Very sad.
Well done,OP.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
Lifo fifo avco.
Well said OP. I hope someone at Google sees that.I have my N4 but my wife wants one too. I cant deliver cause Google can't Now she wants a iphone 5
I'd just like to add that here in the UK, we're in exactly the same situation; orders shipped randomly to people that ordered a couple of hours after the sales opened, and all but a handful of those who ordered within the first hours have received nothing.
Now, Google UK delegate their distribution to a company called 'Computer 2000', with TNT handling delivery. This isn't just an issue of 'UPS forklift driver hates your guts' or pick/ship allocations falling into a black hole, it's a worldwide failure of Google's logistics setup.
I pre ordered on the 1st November with my network here in Denmark. Expected delivery date has changed weekly and today was supposed to be the launch day here and I would receive my phone on Monday. Today they tell me that it will more than likely be at the end of January, possibly later because of LG.
I've purchased a dozen different kind of screen protectors, a few Qi chargers, cases, a bumper all in excitement of getting the nexus in my hands, and it's like I was a 12 year old child today who dropped their ice cream - I was extremely frustrated and I've reached a point where I've had enough of waiting.
I'm done. I cancelled my pre-order and will be looking for something else. Well done LG
I'll be back when the Nexus is given to someone more capable of handling a little demand.
well said , not sure why someone would rate it 1 star (a Google employee I guess)..just rated it 5..brings it to a decent 3 star
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well said , not sure why someone would rate it 1 star (a Google employee I guess)..just rated it 5..brings it to a decent 3 star
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I'm sure some [email protected] over at Google is getting a good laugh, while playing on his Nexus, refreshing this and the shipping thread
twistedh said:
I pre ordered on the 1st November with my network here in Denmark. Expected delivery date has changed weekly and today was supposed to be the launch day here and I would receive my phone on Monday. Today they tell me that it will more than likely be at the end of January, possibly later because of LG.
I've purchased a dozen different kind of screen protectors, a few Qi chargers, cases, a bumper all in excitement of getting the nexus in my hands, and it's like I was a 12 year old child today who dropped their ice cream - I was extremely frustrated and I've reached a point where I've had enough of waiting.
I'm done. I cancelled my pre-order and will be looking for something else. Well done LG
I'll be back when the Nexus is given to someone more capable of handling a little demand.
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Same here mate.
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That post was epic. To me this whole situation could of been avoided by one simple thing: Preorders! Why in gods name would they not take them? Seriously, not only do you assure everyone who wants one at launch gets one, but you get a good forcast on your demand and can properly supply enough product to meet everyone's needs.
It never made one bit of sense to me why they didn't take pre-orders. They didn't even really give anyone a clear idea when exactly the nexus 4 would be available for purchase on the 13th! As far as product launchers goes, this has to be the biggest joke in history
And yeah their silence is driving me nuts. Have a representative take 20 minutes to write a statement and send it to Engadget, Android Central, or another news site. Would it be that hard? 20 minutes just to give us an update on what's going on. Truth is none of us know whats going on, and all we can do is speculate because there is zero info out there!
Very well considered and informed post. They do seem to be managing or not so as the case may be some fairly large problems. With the shutdowns coming over Christmas this is likely to get a little worse before it gets better.
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Cor-master said:
That post was epic. To me this whole situation could of been avoided by one simple thing: Preorders! Why in gods name would they not take them? Seriously, not only do you assure everyone who wants one at launch gets one, but you get a good forcast on your demand and can properly supply enough product to meet everyone's needs.
It never made one bit of sense to me why they didn't take pre-orders. They didn't even really give anyone a clear idea when exactly the nexus 4 would be available for purchase on the 13th! As far as product launchers goes, this has to be the biggest joke in history
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It is not so easy in reality unless you are an established player with a pretty much predictable customer base, like for example a certain well known fruit factory.
Otherwise given the finite production rate you will either be forced to close the preordering (would cause the same customer fuming as the current "sold out")
or will be forced to constantly push back date of availability causing equally severe fuming.
Their current "6-7 weeks" availability schedule is in fact nothing but preorders. But somehow everyone is still unhappy.
Which brings us to the root cause of this mess: LG production is unable to keep up with demand. And no logistical mumbo-jumbo can't do anything about that.
:thumbup:Well done OP well done...:thumbup:
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Which brings us to the root cause of this mess: LG production is unable to keep up with demand. And no logistical mumbo-jumbo can't do anything about that.
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Yep, I think LG is having a hard time keeping up with demand and the proof was all over my Nexus 4. It looks like someone over the whatever sweatshop they are using to package the phones left nasty, greasy sweaty fingerprints all over my phone when they "factory sealed" it. QC issues like this plus other problems I've been hearing on this phone leads me to believe that they are shipping them out as they make them, greasy fingers and all.
Cor-master said:
It never made one bit of sense to me why they didn't take pre-orders. They didn't even really give anyone a clear idea when exactly the nexus 4 would be available for purchase on the 13th! As far as product launchers goes, this has to be the biggest joke in history
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I actually think this IS a pre-order situation, but some douche-in-a-suit was adamant about not calling it that publicly - in the mobile device industry for some reason pre-order had a negative connotation. That and product roadmaps never being on time.
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It is not so easy in reality unless you are an established player with a pretty much predictable customer base, like for example a certain well known fruit factory.
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Actually it is quite easy. We're talking exactly ONE distribution channel here = retail, direct sales. And by now with as long as the Play store has been online, they damn well know their customer base. Not to mention being able to log every IP that has visited the product info page. How much more demographic information do they need?
Globally Google has outsourced their distribution. That means it is infinitely scaleable. There's absolutely no excuse for this. It's evident from all the non-US issues, that this is a Google orchestration failure on all levels. Plain and simple. I hope Bill Gates sent the project manager a really nice box of cigars as a thank you. The G just boosted Windows phone users tremendously. At a minimum it's making a lot of us go hmmmm. I guess maybe Finland should send some cigars too - because suddenly the Lumia family doesn't look so bad.
| And I kind of swore never to look at another Nokia device again |
Thank you to all those that appreciated my OP.
I'm gonna take a guess here and say the OP worked for RIM.
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I'm gonna take a guess here and say the OP worked for RIM.
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BUZZZ. There's 2 lines in my above post. Read between them. :laugh:
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Actually it is quite easy. We're talking exactly ONE distribution channel here = retail, direct sales. And by now with as long as the Play store has been online, they damn well know their customer base. Not to mention being able to log every IP that has visited the product info page. How much more demographic information do they need?
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After reflection, and knowing there are really intelligent folks on here - I'll go aheaad and correct myself now. I know full well there's not one distribution channel. There was the potential to be, but there was a decision not to. I'll explain.
Let's take the US. We all know it's a subsidy market sure - sharing revenue, cocking up the software etc. There was a huge potential to thumb their nose at the carrier segment, and say guess what? We value our customers, and we're giving them a direct opportunity to buy from us. Sorry, your in store carrier offering is going to have to wait 6 months. So that would have meant only 1 distribution channel in column C, per country. Easy peasy. Not to mention the effect on margin to Google and protection of their core brand. But no, now we have a situation where not only the total demand for all of column C blew the forecast out of the water, but I'm sure every segment (each country level distribution channel) forecast blew up the farm.
Now what happens you might ask? Grab your popcorn kiddos. Allocation mode ensues. Each country manager now has a decision to make - send volume a) to the carrier - who is a guaranteed sale, is going to be taking future Google products, who will provide some marketing spend to give us prominent placement in holiday ads and shelf space; or b) cvfl - who just wants to hand us $660 for 2 8gb variants. And guess what? The carrier makes you screw up your manufacturing capacity, because now you have a viariant that has their SW, multiple colors, multiple accessory bundles, because all the carriers want to be "differentiated". So now there goes 250K volume from the direct channel, to TMOUS. How screwed up is that?
You had a chance fellas, and you blew it. And now all these outstanding people, NOT in an 'entry' product category, are pissed off and REALLY know how your business works. You country managers better start whipping up a plan to make things whole with us - like free Orbs or Bumpers, and bust out the customer satisfaction cost center. And start talking to us - because <insert deity here> bless the internet, we talk to each other.
This internet thing sure is a hoot.
And if someone in Mountain View actually does read this - I wonder if I haven't burned a bridge here, I wanted to let you know that me and my merry band of project folks are available to come in and let you know exactly how to make sure this NEVER happens again, or even how to dig yourself out now. I'll let you know now we have fairly standard level consulting fees - but the difference is we actually earn that hourly rate both in quality and speed. I say that because at this time most of us actually have other gigs (myself I started my own biz in a totally unrelated industry), so we'll have to gingerly plan how timing wise things could work. We're a very experienced team of PMP certified, SAP and other SCM software knowledgeable folks. You can even use your existing core IT teams - we play nice. Just remember I'm a no BS kinda guy - I speak my mind, and always wear jeans. I also have the ability to talk to board members, but remember that I have integrity so I don't lie on anyone's behalf.
Two websites are reporting the launch date and availability have been moved up from Oct 17th the Sept 26th! I highly doubt I'll have ours in hand by this Friday, but a gut can dream, can't he?
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-release-accelerate-iphone-529198/
Has anyone seen an official announcement from Samsung about this new launch date?
That said for south korea
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I've actually for three website reports of this now, two mentioning Korea, and one mentioning India, with no confirmation of an accelerated us date yet, however they are supposedly trying to contact Samsung for clarification.
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That said for south korea
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Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
Doesn't help me either, but my point of posting was to find out if everyone was getting a more recent launch date, and if anyone had gotten further information. If India is also being moved up, other countries could be moved up as well.
We are seeing a very low key launch here right now. We were actually the first people to preorder yesterday, even though they have been available for preorders since Friday. The only ads we've also seen are the snarky apple comparison ads, which don't really make Samsung look that great, IMHO.
Looks like Samsung have fail. Is this their first time?
This will be my first Samsung phone.
i wanna get mine early. come on samsung announce it for the us early!
Lol so I read the article on gsmarena... Says Samsung moved the launch date up because "The positive reaction from consumers to those two Apple devices prompted us to launch the Note 4 earlier than previously scheduled. Samsung will be aggressive in promoting the Note 4 as it's true that we are being challenged and pressured amid a difficult situation,"
Really Samsung? How could they be so blind? Apple is androids biggest competitor... So apple releases a phablet and Samsung thinks they are going to release the note 4 almost a month later and not lose market share?
With how little of an upgrade the note4 compared to the note3 I know a few that bought the 6+ to just test the waters. With such a small upgrade they should have had this out on launch day to get as many sales as possible.
I have given up thinking Samsung has a strategy and just realized they are not familiar with consumerism... Especially western consumerism. They need to quit making lame ads about Apple and start copying apples marketing strategies while producing top of the line phones.
ATT website states 10-17 .. i have already ordered .. pre-order for ATT was 19th sept.
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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What I seriously don't get, is on one hand, they say preorders are sold out.. and then on the pther hand, they say they are moving up the launch date to sell more phones.
How do you sell more phones if you are sold out, and if you wanted to sell 15 million of them, why don't you have 15 million to sell?
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Marketing!
EP2008 said:
Yeah? I couldn't care if South Korea gets product today - doesn't help me in Canada. ?
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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The articles clearly state that Samsung is focusing on markets where the iPhone has not released yet.
Another buzz killer is the already advertised pre-order rebate. Ends 10/16.
That does not mean western places other than the u.s will not have a slight chance
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I would assume even just releasing it to markets the iPhone hasn't reached yet are fairly small. I doubt apple would target small markets over large. So I still stand with another poorly handled launch.
They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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South Korea - from 26 september (in showroom has already)
India - in first days october
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Add a fellow Canadian I just want "a" release date. I'm banking on getting it the same time the U.S. does.
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i know right?? we're always left out...i pre-ordered my note 4 like 5 days after it was announced on rogers, i'm #4 in line. I was expecting a release date but got squat. pretty much the entire world knows their release date, except us
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They are making a press announcement tomorrow, so we'll know what the official word is then.
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When and where? Do you have a source?