Anyone think we will be able to get the fingerprint sensor active AND retain TMo VoLTE?
km8j said:
Anyone think we will be able to get the fingerprint sensor active AND retain TMo VoLTE?
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In theory you should, by running a European software it wouldn't take away from the hardware capabilities. But I guess we will have to wait and see..
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rubi76 said:
In theory you should, by running a European software it wouldn't take away from the hardware capabilities. But I guess we will have to wait and see..
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Volte will likely be specific to the radio or the firmware
Not to hijack this thread BUT will a euro xz1 work on US voice/data networks and retain fingerprint scanner? I don't really care about VoLTE...Ive never used it nor do I care to I just want this phone!
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texaslegend said:
Not to hijack this thread BUT will a euro xz1 work on US voice/data networks and retain fingerprint scanner? I don't really care about VoLTE...Ive never used it nor do I care to I just want this phone!
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Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.
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Volte will likely be specific to the radio or the firmware
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christogold said:
Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.
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good advice. how easy is it to flash euro firmware? where do i get it? will i need root access?
texaslegend said:
good advice. how easy is it to flash euro firmware? where do i get it? will i need root access?
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This post details the process for the Xperia X, you have not needed root access to do it on any previous Xperias (can't say for sure till this one ships), though you will need to wait for Xperifirm to add all the Xperia XZ1 firmware versions to its database.
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This post details the process for the Xperia X, you have not needed root access to do it on any previous Xperias (can't say for sure till this one ships), though you will need to wait for Xperifirm to add all the Xperia XZ1 firmware versions to its database.
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That tutorial is outdated for XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 compact.
Please see this guide in XZ Premium section https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/help/flashing-generic-fw-simple-guide-t3652103
christogold said:
Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.
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Only true to a certain extent. T-Mobile is shifting to Band 12 (and then 600Mhz) which requires Band 12 WITH VoLTE.
Check out the X Compact forum or other "non VoLTE" phone forums - reception is terrible.
Due to recent lawsuits T-Mobile is actively disconnecting non-VoLTE phones from Band 12.
That means you may be in a big city where you should get 100% reception ... but you have 1 bar for GPRS.
Anyone make progress on the original request?
Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
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Anyone make progress on the original request?
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angrygolfer said:
Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
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What about volte?
Don't see the option.
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What about volte?
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angrygolfer said:
Don't see the option.
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I'm not sure you will see the option, but you can test it by making a phone call when you're on LTE. If it drops down to H/H+/GSM to make the call, then it's not using VoLTE. If it stays on LTE during the call, then it is using VoLTE. Would be great to know if you could test this.
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Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
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Flashtool doesn't work with the new models, but it's confirmed that Newflasher does.
From peeking into the firmware, VoLTE and WiFi calling is enabled on T-Mobile USA when the "Customized US" (ID 1310-4371) firmware is loaded, but disables the fingerprint reader.
There is a specific modem configuration and framework overlay files that get loaded to allow VoLTE and WiFi calling, so it's highly unlikely to work without the US firmware unless you are rooted and can modify the normally write-protected partitions.
You will have to download it with XperiFirm and follow the instructions in the Newflasher thread.
I'd recommend deleting the "*.ta" files first.
It drops to H when I make a call
camaro322hp said:
I'm not sure you will see the option, but you can test it by making a phone call when you're on LTE. If it drops down to H/H+/GSM to make the call, then it's not using VoLTE. If it stays on LTE during the call, then it is using VoLTE. Would be great to know if you could test this.
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It drops to H when I make a call
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Thanks for confirming
In the US on AT&T with a US model, will I have any issues with this phone if I flash UK firmware? The fingerprint scanner isn’t an absolute necessity for me but I would definitely like to have it if I can. I only ever hear people talk about issues with T-Mobile with these phones so does that mean I shouldn’t have any AT&T issues?
Got my compact from Ebay. Tried 4 different firmwares UK/NOBA/CE/TW and none work with Volte. Only US works.
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Does anyone know what the two different model numbers are? Which model is for which region and apart from fingerprint/TMobile Volte, are there any other differences between the two models?
There is only one model number just different firmware flashed.
That makes life easy. Does any one know where we can see the two firmwares compared for all it's differences?
flintfirewalker said:
That makes life easy. Does any one know where we can see the two firmwares compared for all it's differences?
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I haven't ever used it (or even had an Xperia, might be my first this fall, but we will see), but I think I have seen an app called "Xpericheck" or something like that? Don't quote me on that. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Also, no one seems to know for certain if the phone will work on US t-mobile, just in case you didn't know. So, perhaps be cautious.
Yeah, I read that. I guess I just need to sit back and hear more from those who already purchased. Fingerprint is a must have for me, so I'll need to flash euro firmware. And if that means I lose Volte, so be it. I just want to confirm there isn't other things I'll miss out on.
I so freaking wish Sony kept the concept software going....
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There is only one model number just different firmware flashed.
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Source?
https://xpericheck.com for seeing all Xperia models and different firmware available for them.
Xperifirm is a tool on xda (please use the search) that can download those firmwares
I've been having wet dreams about this phone since the rumors started in June. I just need to make sure I'll be able to get a US warranty and flash the UK firmware without unlocking the bootloader. I'll order it immediately when I confirm everything works.
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VeixES said:
https://xpericheck.com for seeing all Xperia models and different firmware available for them.
Xperifirm is a tool on xda (please use the search) that can download those firmwares
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android_fury said:
I've been having wet dreams about this phone since the rumors started in June. I just need to make sure I'll be able to get a US warranty and flash the UK firmware without unlocking the bootloader. I'll order it immediately when I confirm everything works.
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If this is the case, I am in between buying the US version which will come with the warranty or international version without warranty but fingerprint support. VoLTE is not a big deal for me as of now, but I would like to have the finger print working with US warranty, would that be possible by flashing the necessary firmware?
Thank you!
i have the international variant (asian). everything works fine on Tmo, with the exceptions of voLTE and voWIFI. i am pretty certain this means band 12 is not functional, either, but i will do what i can to verify that.
so far, i have not noticed any issues at all with speeds, connectivity or compatibility. everything works as i expected, including fingerprint scanner. if anyone has any questions about functionality, i would be happy to test.
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legendnexus said:
If this is the case, I am in between buying the US version which will come with the warranty or international version without warranty but fingerprint support. VoLTE is not a big deal for me as of now, but I would like to have the finger print working with US warranty, would that be possible by flashing the necessary firmware?
Thank you!
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buy US version with US warranty. assuming you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash international firmware (i haven't tried), you should always be able to flash back to US software if you need to cash in your warranty.
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i have the international variant (asian). everything works fine on Tmo, with the exceptions of voLTE and voWIFI. i am pretty certain this means band 12 is not functional, either, but i will do what i can to verify that.
so far, i have not noticed any issues at all with speeds, connectivity or compatibility. everything works as i expected, including fingerprint scanner. if anyone has any questions about functionality, i would be happy to test.
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buy US version with US warranty. assuming you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash international firmware (i haven't tried), you should always be able to flash back to US software if you need to cash in your warranty.
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Thank you, I am still waiting for the phone to be delivered at this point but I still want to have the fingerprint functionality.. Hopefully it'll work!
Hm. I'm able to download, via Xperifirm, the firmware files that I'm looking for, but Flashtool does not currently have the XZ1 Compact listed as a supported device. I'm not aware of a way to convert those files to the needed .ftf extension without Flashtool and I don't want to have to *pay* to download it from Xpericheck.com. Anybody know of an alternative?
EDIT: Never mind; I took a second look at the Newflasher thread in Sony Cross-Device General and got it working.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...gress-newflasher-xperia-command-line-t3619426
Any issues with using the Xperia XZ1 Compact on T-Mobile? I'm looking to get this one for my wife as she wants a smaller phone, and we're using Ting (T-Mobile MVNO).
Some users are reporting that the non-Japanese models have a problem where they reboot if used while charging.
Can anyone confirm whether or not all of the bands are the same on both versions? Like, if I get the US version, will it support all of the international LTE bands with or without flashing the firmware? I don't care about fingerprint readers.
Sextron said:
Can anyone confirm whether or not all of the bands are the same on both versions? Like, if I get the US version, will it support all of the international LTE bands with or without flashing the firmware? I don't care about fingerprint readers.
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As far as I have found, the two variants are the same phone, the only difference is the firmware flash that sets radio frequencies and disables/enables the fingerprint sensor on the power button. I recently got my wife a model that was originally international, but reflashed for US, and it has had no problems.
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Can anyone confirm whether or not all of the bands are the same on both versions? Like, if I get the US version, will it support all of the international LTE bands with or without flashing the firmware? I don't care about fingerprint readers.
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I have a Hong Kong variant flashed with UK firmware and all bands work.
VoLTE and Wifi Calling don't work, but B12 (and all of the other bands) work fine.
I bought device from best buy in Canada, can anyone guide how to use or activate VoLTE function in my device?
Secondly can any advise when is android pie is going to be rolled out for us?
Cheers..
joykohli said:
I bought device from best buy in Canada, can anyone guide how to use or activate VoLTE function in my device?
Secondly can any advise when is android pie is going to be rolled out for us?
Cheers..
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There is a dedicated Canadian thread.. You can vist there too
Which provider are you with ?
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I bought device from best buy in Canada, can anyone guide how to use or activate VoLTE function in my device?
Secondly can any advise when is android pie is going to be rolled out for us?
Cheers..
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Depending on your provider, you either have it, or you do not.
Open settings, type volte in search bar...
Bootloader is locked, so if you don't have it, you don't have it.
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The carrier it is being used on is important. Rogers, for example, does similar to AT&T, where they won't allow certain features to work on devices that were not purchased directly through them. If you are using the device on a US carrier, you might want to flash it to the U1 non-carrier firmware, which plays friendliest with T-Mobile for available features, or go one step further and flash to a specific carrier U firmware for a more specific focus on the features they provide.
Have an international XZ1C. I don't care about the fingerprint scanner, just want VoLTE. Can I just flash the US firmware on it?
LowVolume said:
Have an international XZ1C. I don't care about the fingerprint scanner, just want VoLTE. Can I just flash the US firmware on it?
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Presumably you want to update it to Pie?
If you're going to go through the whole flash proccess choosing a CE or UK build will get you VoLTE and fingerprint scanner.
My knowledge of US service providers is sketchy, but it's possible that you can only use provider X's VoLTE if you flash provider X's firmware, maybe someone can correct me on that?
I'd rather avoid Pie. Just needed the VoLTE and maybe the US regionalization. I've heard non-carrier US has it, but I'm not sure.
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I'd rather avoid Pie. Just needed the VoLTE and maybe the US regionalization. I've heard non-carrier US has it, but I'm not sure.
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You're going to have to ask around as Oreo builds have long since been taken down from the Sony servers.
'US regionalization' means no fingerprint scanner, there aren't any other differences.
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You're going to have to ask around as Oreo builds have long since been taken down from the Sony servers.
'US regionalization' means no fingerprint scanner, there aren't any other differences.
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On second thought, I'm fine with Pie now. Can I just flash US firmware without losing the user data?
I'm having trouble activating the XQ-AT52 on Verizon (current service provider), the SIM is registering in the phone but I'm getting no service.
When I try to activate via Verizon online it tells me the IMEI is incompatible.
But when I try to use IMEI checkers on any other US carriers (t-mobile, att&t) it gives me a similar error?
Is the XQ-AT52 just not compatible in the US?
The IMEI isn't in the carrier database for T Mobile and ATT but that doesn't mean it won't work. This device works on GSM networks, not CDMA which means it won't work on Verizon
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I'm having trouble activating the XQ-AT52 on Verizon (current service provider), the SIM is registering in the phone but I'm getting no service.
When I try to activate via Verizon online it tells me the IMEI is incompatible.
But when I try to use IMEI checkers on any other US carriers (t-mobile, att&t) it gives me a similar error?
Is the XQ-AT52 just not compatible in the US?
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I am using my Xperia 1 II which is the O2 version from UK on AT&T without problem. I get LTE+ speeds up to 100mbps. The only problem so far has been when I go to call setting to enable call forwarding, it gives me a sim/network error. Changed the sim still same error but other than this no real issues
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I am using my Xperia 1 II which is the O2 version from UK on AT&T without problem. I get LTE+ speeds up to 100mbps. The only problem so far has been when I go to call setting to enable call forwarding, it gives me a sim/network error. Changed the sim still same error but other than this no real issues
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No VoLTE, correct?
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No VoLTE, correct?
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So when I call, signal icon changes from LTE to 4G. Not sure what that means
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mehdi_s82 said:
So when I call, signal icon changes from LTE to 4G. Not sure what that means
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No VoLTE. Not surprising, I have the XQ-AT52. Did you check and see if there is a US customization you can flash with your version?
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No VoLTE. Not surprising, I have the XQ-AT52. Did you check and see if there is a US customization you can flash with your version?
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Didn't find anything yet. I guess it will be available when it launches
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I'm having trouble activating the XQ-AT52 on Verizon (current service provider), the SIM is registering in the phone but I'm getting no service.
When I try to activate via Verizon online it tells me the IMEI is incompatible.
But when I try to use IMEI checkers on any other US carriers (t-mobile, att&t) it gives me a similar error?
Is the XQ-AT52 just not compatible in the US?
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AFAIK, if you contact Verizon and ask them to activate the device as CDMA-less (or just ask them to set up your line as CDMA-less) you should be good to go for at least data. VoLTE is a different story, you might need a US customization for that.
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Didn't find anything yet. I guess it will be available when it launches
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US customization is now available!
samteeee said:
US customization is now available!
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Is there any benefit to installing that firmware if I don't care about VoLTE which is a pain to get to work with AT&T
anyway?
mehdi_s82 said:
Is there any benefit to installing that firmware if I don't care about VoLTE which is a pain to get to work with AT&T
anyway?
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It might not, but I'd much prefer to have & work with a Rom that was built for my region(North America)
than one that is built for South Asia, IMHO.
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It might not, but I'd much prefer to have & work with a Rom that was built for my region(North America)
than one that is built for South Asia, IMHO.
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Do you know how to flash the XQ-AT52 to a XQ-AT51 firmware?
PandaWiz said:
Do you know how to flash the XQ-AT52 to a XQ-AT51 firmware?
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Here is the guide by @brocnical:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-1-II/how-to/successfully-flashed-customization-t4119707
mehdi_s82 said:
Is there any benefit to installing that firmware if I don't care about VoLTE which is a pain to get to work with AT&T
anyway?
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Hi good morning where the files for US customization.
So I'm in a similar situation, I purchased an xq-at52 that was flashed with US firmware and verizon can't help me. Well, they're working on it, but it seems to more of an issue than just provisioning my line as cdma-less. I recently had success with a oneplus 7t so I figured the sony would be just as easy. Does anyone have a success story with the xq-at52 on verizon??
Hi Guys,
The XZ1c is almost 5 years old now. As there was no clear replacement for this compact phone - which phone did you eventually move on to?
- I moved onto the Xperia Ace 2, but it really is an inferior phone (bigger, slower, and worse camera).
- The Xperia Ace 3 is the best upgrade from the XZ1c. The new snapdragon chip fixed many of the issues that the Ace 2 had. And this phone gets a strong recommendation from me. Get it off ebay starting June 2022. It holds the title of "Worlds smallest smartphone with a 4500mah battery".
- I will be moving onto the Xperia 10 IV "worlds lightest 5G phone with a 5000mah batt"
Hope this information can help you with your new Sony.
Regards,
Dean
I'd like to know as well. My SO-02K no longer works as a phone now that 3G is getting disabled.
I've spent a lot of time searching for an acceptable replacement since the news about AT&T discontinuing 3G struck, but I've yet to find anything -- it seems like small Android phones are just a thing of the past.
Yep, I'm stuck without voice for the forseeable future.
Pixel 5 & 4a, Nokia 7 & 8 spring to mind... Other than that XZ2 compact seems to be the obvious next in line. FYI you can set up a search on gsm arena and see exactly what's out there under 145mm in height w/ 4g+, BT5+ and running Android
If you have money to burn and are unbothered by the lack of substantial customization options/roms but gotta have all that extra space in your pocket, perhaps those new age flip phones are worth considering. Talking about Z Flip3 and Razr 5G
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Yep, I'm stuck without voice for the forseeable future.
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No you aren't -- as long as you can flash an Android 10+ ROM, you can get voice, data, etc working.
I worked on doing that all this past week, and now my phone works perfectly -- as good as new!
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No you aren't -- as long as you can flash an Android 10+ ROM, you can get voice, data, etc working.
I worked on doing that all this past week, and now my phone works perfectly -- as good as new!
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I have the Japanese version with the locked bootloader, unfortunately. I'll have to get one of the US versions one of these days. Or switch from AT&T.
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I have the Japanese version with the locked bootloader, unfortunately. I'll have to get one of the US versions one of these days. Or switch from AT&T.
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Or have it unlocked for £23.
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No you aren't -- as long as you can flash an Android 10+ ROM, you can get voice, data, etc working.
I worked on doing that all this past week, and now my phone works perfectly -- as good as new!
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How to enable VoLTE?
echo124 said:
How to enable VoLTE?
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Settings -> Xperia Parts
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Settings -> Xperia Parts
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Is magisk mod for stock pie?
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Is magisk mod for stock pie?
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Oh, I assumed you were running Android 10+. You can't get VoLTE on Pie. You have to flash a custom ROM, or live without VoLTE.
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Oh, I assumed you were running Android 10+. You can't get VoLTE on Pie. You have to flash a custom ROM, or live without VoLTE.
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Do you need gapps install for volte to work? Do I need to call mobile carrier to activate volte ? What band in xperiaparts do you use? Danke!
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Do you need gapps install for volte to work? Do I need to call mobile carrier to activate volte ? What band in xperiaparts do you use? Danke!
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I don't think so.
I didn't have to.
I didn't select a band; I just selected the correct modem for my carrier.
Bitte, lol
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I don't think so.
I didn't have to.
I didn't select a band; I just selected the correct modem for my carrier.
Bitte, lol
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What mobile provider may ask?
I'm still using the XZ1 Compact in tandem with my 12 mini.
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What mobile provider may ask?
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AT&T.
4qx said:
Or have it unlocked for £23.
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Has anyone actually done this on the SO-02K and then successfully flashed an Android 10+ ROM?
Samsung z flip
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Has anyone actually done this on the SO-02K and then successfully flashed an Android 10+ ROM?
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Appears so, there are at least two recounts of this on xda:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...eys-implemented.3795510/page-86#post-86005255
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-havoc-os-4-6-official-r.4225905/page-21#post-86619273