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VoLTE on TMo and Fingerprint Sensor

Anyone think we will be able to get the fingerprint sensor active AND retain TMo VoLTE?

km8j said:
Anyone think we will be able to get the fingerprint sensor active AND retain TMo VoLTE?
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In theory you should, by running a European software it wouldn't take away from the hardware capabilities. But I guess we will have to wait and see..
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rubi76 said:
In theory you should, by running a European software it wouldn't take away from the hardware capabilities. But I guess we will have to wait and see..
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Volte will likely be specific to the radio or the firmware

Not to hijack this thread BUT will a euro xz1 work on US voice/data networks and retain fingerprint scanner? I don't really care about VoLTE...Ive never used it nor do I care to I just want this phone!
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texaslegend said:
Not to hijack this thread BUT will a euro xz1 work on US voice/data networks and retain fingerprint scanner? I don't really care about VoLTE...Ive never used it nor do I care to I just want this phone!
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Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.

km8j said:
Volte will likely be specific to the radio or the firmware
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christogold said:
Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.
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good advice. how easy is it to flash euro firmware? where do i get it? will i need root access?

texaslegend said:
good advice. how easy is it to flash euro firmware? where do i get it? will i need root access?
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This post details the process for the Xperia X, you have not needed root access to do it on any previous Xperias (can't say for sure till this one ships), though you will need to wait for Xperifirm to add all the Xperia XZ1 firmware versions to its database.

christogold said:
This post details the process for the Xperia X, you have not needed root access to do it on any previous Xperias (can't say for sure till this one ships), though you will need to wait for Xperifirm to add all the Xperia XZ1 firmware versions to its database.
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That tutorial is outdated for XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 compact.
Please see this guide in XZ Premium section https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/help/flashing-generic-fw-simple-guide-t3652103

christogold said:
Assuming it supports all the same 2G/3G/4G bands the US carrier you are using uses (and you aren't using a CDMA carrier) then yes. Historically the European Xperia versions have supported US carriers. However, it has also historically been easy to flash European firmware onto the US Xperias, to enable the fingerprint sensor in them. Either way I think it makes sense to wait for the US one so you have a functioning manufacturer warranty.
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Only true to a certain extent. T-Mobile is shifting to Band 12 (and then 600Mhz) which requires Band 12 WITH VoLTE.
Check out the X Compact forum or other "non VoLTE" phone forums - reception is terrible.
Due to recent lawsuits T-Mobile is actively disconnecting non-VoLTE phones from Band 12.
That means you may be in a big city where you should get 100% reception ... but you have 1 bar for GPRS.

Anyone make progress on the original request?

Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
km8j said:
Anyone make progress on the original request?
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angrygolfer said:
Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
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What about volte?

Don't see the option.
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What about volte?
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angrygolfer said:
Don't see the option.
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I'm not sure you will see the option, but you can test it by making a phone call when you're on LTE. If it drops down to H/H+/GSM to make the call, then it's not using VoLTE. If it stays on LTE during the call, then it is using VoLTE. Would be great to know if you could test this.

angrygolfer said:
Received my XZ1C from clove yesterday. No wifi calling option on tmobile. Flashtool doesn't show this device currently, so can't try other firmwares.
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Flashtool doesn't work with the new models, but it's confirmed that Newflasher does.
From peeking into the firmware, VoLTE and WiFi calling is enabled on T-Mobile USA when the "Customized US" (ID 1310-4371) firmware is loaded, but disables the fingerprint reader.
There is a specific modem configuration and framework overlay files that get loaded to allow VoLTE and WiFi calling, so it's highly unlikely to work without the US firmware unless you are rooted and can modify the normally write-protected partitions.
You will have to download it with XperiFirm and follow the instructions in the Newflasher thread.
I'd recommend deleting the "*.ta" files first.

It drops to H when I make a call
camaro322hp said:
I'm not sure you will see the option, but you can test it by making a phone call when you're on LTE. If it drops down to H/H+/GSM to make the call, then it's not using VoLTE. If it stays on LTE during the call, then it is using VoLTE. Would be great to know if you could test this.
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angrygolfer said:
It drops to H when I make a call
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Thanks for confirming

In the US on AT&T with a US model, will I have any issues with this phone if I flash UK firmware? The fingerprint scanner isn’t an absolute necessity for me but I would definitely like to have it if I can. I only ever hear people talk about issues with T-Mobile with these phones so does that mean I shouldn’t have any AT&T issues?

Got my compact from Ebay. Tried 4 different firmwares UK/NOBA/CE/TW and none work with Volte. Only US works.

Sprint Calling Plus ???

I just noticed that neither one of my Note 8's does not have have an option for calling plus so I am unable to use data while on a call. Anybody know why this is?

seawolf823 said:
I just noticed that neither one of my Note 8's does not have have an option for calling plus so I am unable to use data while on a call. Anybody know why this is?
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it will come out as a maintenance release here in the future. Its confirmed on some test builds we have played with.
Dont worry its coming.

seawolf823 said:
I just noticed that neither one of my Note 8's does not have have an option for calling plus so I am unable to use data while on a call. Anybody know why this is?
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Team DevDigitel said:
it will come out as a maintenance release here in the future. Its confirmed on some test builds we have played with.
Dont worry its coming.
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This is the EXACT main question in my thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/sprint-note-8-to-buy-root-please-help-t3671003
Please help me with this very question. I am wanting to purchase a Note 8 right now. I just don't know where I should purchase it. I hear the Sprint only version will have "Calling Plus" or special features while the UNLOCKED version will not. Neither can be rooted in any case.
I would like the HOT SPOT feature on the UNLOCKED version but I would rather have CALLING PLUS.
Summary
Unlocked = WiFi Tether/Hot Spot
Sprint/Locked = Possible Calling Plus
Can't have both. Is this correct?
Which Note 8 should I buy? One from Sprint or Samsung.com or Amazon.com?
Please Advise!

AtlantaBB said:
This is the EXACT main question in my thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/sprint-note-8-to-buy-root-please-help-t3671003
Please help me with this very question. I am wanting to purchase a Note 8 right now. I just don't know where I should purchase it. I hear the Sprint only version will have "Calling Plus" or special features while the UNLOCKED version will not. Neither can be rooted in any case.
I would like the HOT SPOT feature on the UNLOCKED version but I would rather have CALLING PLUS.
Summary
Unlocked = WiFi Tether/Hot Spot
Sprint/Locked = Possible Calling Plus
Can't have both. Is this correct?
Which Note 8 should I buy? One from Sprint or Samsung.com or Amazon.com?
Please Advise!
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Question 1: calling plus. This can be done on the unlocked version if you flash the unlocked sprint Odin softwear but will then hold you accountable for hotspot on your plan or it's locked.
Question 2: the sprint variant dosnt have calling plus yet either so back to question 1 neither have it on the shipped softwear but it'll be on next update. Be aware the unlocked version you'll need to find a sim card for it as it dosnt come with one to activate.
Follow up: I ordered from samsung and got the Sprint branded
Version. I can tell you this. Once it's paid off it's able to be unlocked and no dif then the one sold unlocked and in my experience the branded one seems to just work better for the network without any messing around as well as the og hotspot hack where you just turn it on as soon as the phone turns on circumvents the check and works just fine.
I don't know about buying on Amazon and unless you save money going 5o a Amazon seller id go through samsung or sprint

Team DevDigitel said:
Question 1: calling plus. This can be done on the unlocked version if you flash the unlocked sprint Odin softwear but will then hold you accountable for hotspot on your plan or it's locked.
Question 2: the sprint variant dosnt have calling plus yet either so back to question 1 neither have it on the shipped softwear but it'll be on next update. Be aware the unlocked version you'll need to find a sim card for it as it dosnt come with one to activate.
Follow up: I ordered from samsung and got the Sprint branded
Version. I can tell you this. Once it's paid off it's able to be unlocked and no dif then the one sold unlocked and in my experience the branded one seems to just work better for the network without any messing around as well as the og hotspot hack where you just turn it on as soon as the phone turns on circumvents the check and works just fine.
I don't know about buying on Amazon and unless you save money going 5o a Amazon seller id go through samsung or sprint
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Should I get the S8 or S8 Plus to get "Calling Plus" for sure? Because the Note 8 doesn't have it yet? This is an extremely important feature to me. Or will the Note 8 get it for sure?
I see, so if I flash "Calling Plus" on my unlocked Note 8 it will then check on my Hot Spot and make it more difficult which is just like buying the Sprint Version.
How did you order from Samsung and get the Sprint Version, does it ask you? Should I order from Samsung and get the sprint version or should I order directly from Sprint?
Sounds to me the best thing to do is order from Sprint, get all of the updates faster than unlocked and get calling plus when it comes out.
Where do you find: "og hotspot hack" I would infidelity like that. Is this for hot spot turning it on for up to 8 devices wifi tether? Do you have to root or does with work with non-rooted phones because you can't root anymore.

AtlantaBB said:
Should I get the S8 or S8 Plus to get "Calling Plus" for sure? Because the Note 8 doesn't have it yet? This is an extremely important feature to me. Or will the Note 8 get it for sure?
I see, so if I flash "Calling Plus" on my unlocked Note 8 it will then check on my Hot Spot and make it more difficult which is just like buying the Sprint Version.
How did you order from Samsung and get the Sprint Version, does it ask you? Should I order from Samsung and get the sprint version or should I order directly from Sprint?
Sounds to me the best thing to do is order from Sprint, get all of the updates faster than unlocked and get calling plus when it comes out.
Where do you find: "og hotspot hack" I would infidelity like that. Is this for hot spot turning it on for up to 8 devices wifi tether? Do you have to root or does with work with non-rooted phones because you can't root anymore.
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For the 1st question: yes it virtually makes the phone the sprint version with all the bloat etc. But also puts the sprint specifics on the device like wifi calling and other stuff..
I ordered from samsung because I had the offer and it brings you to a page to choose what version. All the carriers show up and you just choose what one you want.
If you have a upgrade then you should get through sprint and just put on your sprint bill.. if you buy from samsung you either buy fully out right at 960$ or you have to qualify for a loan with their partner TD Bank so you have to do a credit check etc. No 1 year upgrade option with samsung and it's 24mo Ownership vs sprint it's 18mo lease or keep 24mo to buy. As well they let you turn it in at 12 payments and upgrade if you wish. That's a bonus but I can't participate as I work for sprint and employee sales are kinda jacked.
The hotspot hack is literally reboot your phone and as soon as its on the home screen pull down your quick tiles and turn on the hotspot lol. You are just activating it before the system is fully loaded. But once you shut off the hotspot you'll have to reboot to turn it on or it knows you don't have it on your plan.
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N-950U - SPRINT
N-950U1 - UNLOCKED
if you go to Samsung mobile and go to their firmware page you can search either model number and see what softwear is avalible. For the N-950U they have unlocked , spr , vzw , Att , Tmob versions so you can jump from carrier to carrier and flash their softwear. I have not attempted to flash my N-950 with U version softwear and it probably won't work. Once it's off backorder I'll try and it possibly will brick or just won't work. Not worth being without my new phone until it's avalible to be replaced quickly lol

Team DevDigitel said:
For the 1st question: yes it virtually makes the phone the sprint version with all the bloat etc. But also puts the sprint specifics on the device like wifi calling and other stuff..
I ordered from samsung because I had the offer and it brings you to a page to choose what version. All the carriers show up and you just choose what one you want.
If you have a upgrade then you should get through sprint and just put on your sprint bill.. if you buy from samsung you either buy fully out right at 960$ or you have to qualify for a loan with their partner TD Bank so you have to do a credit check etc. No 1 year upgrade option with samsung and it's 24mo Ownership vs sprint it's 18mo lease or keep 24mo to buy. As well they let you turn it in at 12 payments and upgrade if you wish. That's a bonus but I can't participate as I work for sprint and employee sales are kinda jacked.
The hotspot hack is literally reboot your phone and as soon as its on the home screen pull down your quick tiles and turn on the hotspot lol. You are just activating it before the system is fully loaded. But once you shut off the hotspot you'll have to reboot to turn it on or it knows you don't have it on your plan.
N-950 - SPRINT
N-950U - UNLOCKED
if you go to Samsung mobile and go to their firmware page you can search either model number and see what softwear is avalible. For the N-950U they have unlocked , spr , vzw , Att , Tmob versions so you can jump from carrier to carrier and flash their softwear. I have not attempted to flash my N-950 with U version softwear and it probably won't work. Once it's off backorder I'll try and it possibly will brick or just won't work. Not worth being without my new phone until it's avalible to be replaced quickly lol
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Very nice, thank you for this information.
So to be clear, it looks like I am ordering the Sprint Version Note 8 from Sprint. You are pretty certain that it will be getting the "Calling Plus" feature because that is what I want.
This is what I want:
Sprint Hot Spot Trick, turn on before phone completely boots. = Fine for me
Youtube Red, 10 bucks a month but worth zero commercials, I am use to Xposed and no commercials, but can't root anymore and no support = Fine for me
Calling Plus, this is a must, because I am on the road 24/7, always on the phone and using internet, hope this comes soon = Fine for me
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Do I have all this right? I am about to order (4) Note 8's via sprint upgrade plan! Please make sure!

AtlantaBB said:
Very nice, thank you for this information.
So to be clear, it looks like I am ordering the Sprint Version Note 8 from Sprint. You are pretty certain that it will be getting the "Calling Plus" feature because that is what I want.
This is what I want:
Sprint Hot Spot Trick, turn on before phone completely boots. = Fine for me
Youtube Red, 10 bucks a month but worth zero commercials, I am use to Xposed and no commercials, but can't root anymore and no support = Fine for me
Calling Plus, this is a must, because I am on the road 24/7, always on the phone and using internet, hope this comes soon = Fine for me
Summary,
Do I have all this right? I am about to order (4) Note 8's via sprint upgrade plan! Please make sure!
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Yup you got it
And yeah sprint is just finnaly rolling calling plus out so it has some bugs they needed to resolve and started pushing it to the flagship over the last few months. It will be on all handsets shortly.
Don't count root out just yet. It's gonna take some time and there needs to be some big work done but @me2151 has already gotten permissive selinux and a few other things together. We just need some man power to look at Odin or the device and find out how to get the custom Odin.tar he built over to the device.
I miss youtube red also but those things we just extras for me. Blkd pandora and the SystemUI tuner are my main apps. Just want to tweak things here and there. As well substtatum is also a good tool for making adjustments. I had a centered clock sent to me to test that another user verified on his n8 so the majority of thing I like are done without root now.
Otherwise it's a damn good phone overall. I have a slight bug with my gallery app that causes the screen to jump but the other dev couldnt reproduce on his device. I'm gonna have to wipe and re test as its my ONLY complaint so far.

Team DevDigitel said:
Yup you got it
And yeah sprint is just finnaly rolling calling plus out so it has some bugs they needed to resolve and started pushing it to the flagship over the last few months. It will be on all handsets shortly.
Don't count root out just yet. It's gonna take some time and there needs to be some big work done but @me2151 has already gotten permissive selinux and a few other things together. We just need some man power to look at Odin or the device and find out how to get the custom Odin.tar he built over to the device.
I miss youtube red also but those things we just extras for me. Blkd pandora and the SystemUI tuner are my main apps. Just want to tweak things here and there. As well substtatum is also a good tool for making adjustments. I had a centered clock sent to me to test that another user verified on his n8 so the majority of thing I like are done without root now.
Otherwise it's a damn good phone overall. I have a slight bug with my gallery app that causes the screen to jump but the other dev couldnt reproduce on his device. I'm gonna have to wipe and re test as its my ONLY complaint so far.
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Thanks so much for all of the information. You were a life savor. For the life of me I couldn't decide which one to get. I am really going to enjoy going from my Note 3 to Note 8. The picture quality and speed! LOL!
Thanks!

Team DevDigitel said:
Yup you got it
And yeah sprint is just finnaly rolling calling plus out so it has some bugs they needed to resolve and started pushing it to the flagship over the last few months. It will be on all handsets shortly.
Don't count root out just yet. It's gonna take some time and there needs to be some big work done but @me2151 has already gotten permissive selinux and a few other things together. We just need some man power to look at Odin or the device and find out how to get the custom Odin.tar he built over to the device.
I miss youtube red also but those things we just extras for me. Blkd pandora and the SystemUI tuner are my main apps. Just want to tweak things here and there. As well substtatum is also a good tool for making adjustments. I had a centered clock sent to me to test that another user verified on his n8 so the majority of thing I like are done without root now.
Otherwise it's a damn good phone overall. I have a slight bug with my gallery app that causes the screen to jump but the other dev couldnt reproduce on his device. I'm gonna have to wipe and re test as its my ONLY complaint so far.
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Check out what this guy said. He said you don't have to flash and get everything blocked. Just flash what you need. please see below:
AtlantaBB said:
Check this thread out. This guy works for Sprint. If you do that you are flashing your phone to a Sprint phone. Mine as well just get a Sprint Phone. If you flash it, it will block you from wifi tethering and add the bloatware. So you mine as well just get the Sprint phone and get the updates with "Calling Plus"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/sprint-calling-plus-t3670069
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BlueFox721 said:
Not if you just flash t he userdata file....
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...note-8-to-buy-root-please-help-t3671003/page4

Team DevDigitel said:
Yup you got it
And yeah sprint is just finnaly rolling calling plus out so it has some bugs they needed to resolve and started pushing it to the flagship over the last few months. It will be on all handsets shortly.
Don't count root out just yet. It's gonna take some time and there needs to be some big work done but @me2151 has already gotten permissive selinux and a few other things together. We just need some man power to look at Odin or the device and find out how to get the custom Odin.tar he built over to the device.
I miss youtube red also but those things we just extras for me. Blkd pandora and the SystemUI tuner are my main apps. Just want to tweak things here and there. As well substtatum is also a good tool for making adjustments. I had a centered clock sent to me to test that another user verified on his n8 so the majority of thing I like are done without root now.
Otherwise it's a damn good phone overall. I have a slight bug with my gallery app that causes the screen to jump but the other dev couldnt reproduce on his device. I'm gonna have to wipe and re test as its my ONLY complaint so far.
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I bought (4) Note 8's. The Mobile Hotspot Trick does not work and I do not have "Calling Plus" even after the latest update. I have had (1) update so far. I hope you didn't screw me over. =(

AtlantaBB said:
I bought (4) Note 8's. The Mobile Hotspot Trick does not work and I do not have "Calling Plus" even after the latest update. I have had (1) update so far. I hope you didn't screw me over. =(
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The update will come out...they are working bugs out before final roll out...

BlueFox721 said:
The update will come out...they are working bugs out before final roll out...
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Do you know how to overcome the hotspot issue? I really want that. Do you know of a program that will work without root?

AtlantaBB said:
Do you know how to overcome the hotspot issue? I really want that. Do you know of a program that will work without root?
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Check here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-enable-hotspot-t3675986
Or here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/themes/mod-hotspot-bypass-root-msl-required-t3671061

AtlantaBB said:
I bought (4) Note 8's. The Mobile Hotspot Trick does not work and I do not have "Calling Plus" even after the latest update. I have had (1) update so far. I hope you didn't screw me over. =(
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I'm using the hotspot hack

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Where do you get that?

AtlantaBB said:
Where do you get that?
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Are neither hotspot options working for you on any of the 4 Notes?

BlueFox721 said:
Are neither hotspot options working for you on any of the 4 Notes?
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Seems like a lot of work to side load an app or mod file settings. Would rather just install the app.
What do you think the best way is? Do you know where that app is?

AtlantaBB said:
Seems like a lot of work to side load an app or mod file settings. Would rather just install the app.
What do you think the best way is? Do you know where that app is?
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Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.shortcutmaster.lite
Step 1 - Download Shortcut Master Lite from the Play Store.
Step 2 - Open Shortcut Master Lite and select the Menu (three vertical dots in the upper right).
Step 3 - Select App Explorer, and then All Apps
Step 4 – Navigate (scroll down) to com.test.LTEfunctionality and select.
Step 5 – Select the first item labled "LTEFunctionalityTest" and select launch.
Step 6 – Scroll down to LTE APN Setting and select.
Step 10 –Select APN2 LTE internet (Sprint) or your carrier internet APN.
Step 11 - Scroll down to APN type and select.
Step 12 - Add "DUN" to the setting (it should read "default,mms,DUN") without quotations.
Step 13 - Select Menu and save your settings
Congratulations, your device now has Native Hotspot without having to toggle data!
You only do this one time and it works continually, making it not that much effort..uninstall shortcut master if you choose...hotspot still works

I have Sprint. Which Note 8 to buy? Root. Please Help!

Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.

you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin

purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.

purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.

purchasedPhone said:
from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Torquemada288 said:
The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.

BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.

AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner

BlueFox721 said:
The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?

AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though

I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.

BlueFox721 said:
When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.

AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte

BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?

AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well

BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338

The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out

Unlocked version wifi calling for Verizon - available now?

Searched all over the internet and can’t find the latest answer.
I am ready to pull the trigger on Note 9 but dont want to deal with VZ bloatware. I know when Note 9 was originally launched, the unlocked version didnt have the wifi calling for Verizon.
I know S9/S9+ were the same but with an update back in August, wifi calling on unlocked version became available. Has the same update came out for Note 9 yet?

I have the Verizon 8/512 version.
There really is not much bloat, like in the past.
4 apps that I wouldn't use, with only the Verizon Voicemail app that cannot be disabled.

nayabryan said:
Searched all over the internet and can’t find the latest answer.
I am ready to pull the trigger on Note 9 but dont want to deal with VZ bloatware. I know when Note 9 was originally launched, the unlocked version didnt have the wifi calling for Verizon.
I know S9/S9+ were the same but with an update back in August, wifi calling on unlocked version became available. Has the same update came out for Note 9 yet?
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Unfortunately Note 9 unlocked/unbranded firmware still does not have Wi-Fi Calling when using Verizon. This is true even on the latest Pie beta. It's something I am actively tracking. For the tech folks in the room, it's turned off in customer.xml.

pizza_pablo said:
I have the Verizon 8/512 version.
There really is not much bloat, like in the past.
4 apps that I wouldn't use, with only the Verizon Voicemail app that cannot be disabled.
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Could you possibly send me a link for the directions you took to flash your phone? I'm in the same boat, and I would really like wifi calling. Thanks

jayfrom805 said:
Could you possibly send me a link for the directions you took to flash your phone? I'm in the same boat, and I would really like wifi calling. Thanks
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Sorry, I haven't flashed anything on this phone.
Did you mean to quote someone else?

pizza_pablo said:
Sorry, I haven't flashed anything on this phone.
Did you mean to quote someone else?
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Oh sorry, I assumed your phone use to be unlocked but I guess you had the Verizon software to start with.

jayfrom805 said:
Oh sorry, I assumed your phone use to be unlocked but I guess you had the Verizon software to start with.
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Yes. My Note 9 is Verizon branded.
If you are looking for Verizon Oreo, I believe it is in this OP. I believe the patched version of odin must be used.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ck-960u-firmware-att-vzw-tmo-spr-usc-t3837086

New Pixel 5 owner in Canada: How do I trick the phone into thinking it is a USA phone

New Pixel 5 owner in Canada: How do I trick the phone into thinking it is a USA phone? I want the Hold For Me feature so badly.
In fact, I only bought the phone for the Hold For Me feature without realising it's only available in the USA. If I can't get it to work, I think I'll be returning the phone.
Can someone give me tips on how to trick the phone into thinking it is in the USA?

you could try flashing the Verizon factory image. I have no idea if it will work but worth a try?
https://developers.google.com/android/images

I believe it's the same like getting call screen outside US/Ca, but it's just that hold for me only for US apparently.
Maybe can follow the same guide like enabling call screen for those not eligible https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82003873&postcount=23

emilio911 said:
New Pixel 5 owner in Canada: How do I trick the phone into thinking it is a USA phone? I want the Hold For Me feature so badly.
In fact, I only bought the phone for the Hold For Me feature without realising it's only available in the USA. If I can't get it to work, I think I'll be returning the phone.
Can someone give me tips on how to trick the phone into thinking it is in the USA?
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It should roll out to other places and countries pretty soon so hang in there. Also know that it's only for toll free calls and needs to be enabled for each call since there is no global setting. I mean it's nice, I used it once but not a deal maker or breaker imo.

bobby janow said:
It should roll out to other places and countries pretty soon so hang in there. Also know that it's only for toll free calls and needs to be enabled for each call since there is no global setting. I mean it's nice, I used it once but not a deal maker or breaker imo.
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For my job, I have to call a lot of places that have repetitive music that make me go crazy. :silly:

fuadhdmini said:
I believe it's the same like getting call screen outside US/Ca, but it's just that hold for me only for US apparently.
Maybe can follow the same guide like enabling call screen for those not eligible https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82003873&postcount=23
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Thanks, will try this first.
swangjang said:
you could try flashing the Verizon factory image. I have no idea if it will work but worth a try?
https://developers.google.com/android/images
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Thanks, will try this second.

I have just checked it on pixel 5. It works.
Note: after doing the steps it didn't work directly, I enabled vpn (US) and went to the google play and joined the beta program then it worked.
Im not sure if vpn is needed or even the beta program, maybe I just had to give it time. But it works perfectly, I have already used the call screening to answer my mom calls.

alawii_shark said:
I have just checked it on pixel 5. It works.
Note: after doing the steps it didn't work directly, I enabled vpn (US) and went to the google play and joined the beta program then it worked.
Im not sure if vpn is needed or even the beta program, maybe I just had to give it time. But it works perfectly, I have already used the call screening to answer my mom calls.
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What about Hold For Me?

emilio911 said:
New Pixel 5 owner in Canada: How do I trick the phone into thinking it is a USA phone? I want the Hold For Me feature so badly.
In fact, I only bought the phone for the Hold For Me feature without realising it's only available in the USA. If I can't get it to work, I think I'll be returning the phone.
Can someone give me tips on how to trick the phone into thinking it is in the USA?
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What should I say? every modern mobile requires modern tricks.

emilio911 said:
Thanks, will try this first.
Thanks, will try this second.
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I just did mine. I'm from Malaysia. I'm rooted because the app here to fake US carrier requires root https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-root-android-market-enabler.3871651/.
I can now enjoy both Call Screen and Hold for Me

fuadhdmini said:
I just did mine. I'm from Malaysia. I'm rooted because the app here to fake US carrier requires root https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-root-android-market-enabler.3871651/.
I can now enjoy both Call Screen and Hold for Me
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Please the note the caller's country code +60 (Malaysia). Proves that I'm using it from Malaysia.
<iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/13oOLlZ48Bct-vJuunxAgXFABHAkgDnj_/preview" width="640" height="480"></iframe>

Hold For Me works in Canada @emilio911. I have it on my Pixel 5 from Telus.
EDIT: Set you main language to English (United States) in settings > system > languages & input. I just tried setting mine to English (Canada) and lost the Hold For Me option

xunholyx said:
Hold For Me works in Canada @emilio911. I have it on my Pixel 5 from Telus.
EDIT: Set you main language to English (United States) in settings > system > languages & input. I just tried setting mine to English (Canada) and lost the Hold For Me option
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write your query on YouTube. It provides a better solution and option for you.

asadiqbal_1 said:
write your query on YouTube. It provides a better solution and option for you.
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I don't have a query. It works for me and I provided the solution to make it work.
EDIT: You do realize that XDA is the place people come to to fix their phones after following a YouTube tutorial, correct?