Playstore First - Update First new Fire 8 - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
is it better to install Playstore first or Fire Updates first on new HD8?
On my 7 I installed Fire Updates First then Apps from Amzon then Playstore.
But Youtube from Playstore is better so I reinstalled it and up to now haven't got Ok Google working.
May be doing it the other way round is better.
My Fire 7 also got a little slow by all this, when pressing home some seconds only wallpaper then the Icons appear.

I haven't login to amazon on my new Fire HD8, so no updates are done and installed Playstore first then Google App.
But same issue Google App hangs when enabling Ok Google on all screens and says can't connect after a while (to whatever).

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How to get Google play or android on kindle fire hd 7?

Hi I have the Kindle Fire HD 7" (2nd Generation) and was wondering how I can either get google play store and google apps or how to get android.
Please note I used an app called Key Root Master (MOD Version) to "root" my kindle.
I have downloaded 3 apps which say I am rooted so I assume I am
Anyways how can I either get google play store and other google play services or android?
One last thing I would like to note is that my kindle is running system version 7.5.1
Thanks
Edit: I switched over to KingRoot
Edit: I thought gen 2 is SOHO but "Root Analyzer" says under device info im tate...
I'd like to know the answers to these questions also. This Kindle is crippled without access to Google play.
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ZimriXDA said:
Hi I have the Kindle Fire HD 7" (2nd Generation) and was wondering how I can either get google play store and google apps or how to get android.
Please note I used an app called Key Root Master (MOD Version) to "root" my kindle.
I have downloaded 3 apps which say I am rooted so I assume I am[emoji14]
Anyways how can I either get google play store and other google play services or android?
One last thing I would like to note is that my kindle is running system version 7.5.1
Thanks
Edit: I switched over to KingRoot
Edit: I thought gen 2 is SOHO but "Root Analyzer" says under device info im tate...
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Go to your computer, Google root junky supertool and download it, make sure adb is enabled on the kindle, plug it in, unzip the supertool and run the batch program, wait a bit, and then you will see a bunch of options, it should be option 3 or 4. Follow the super tools instructions, and let it do its thing, and then your tablet should reboot with Gapps installed. This works with or without root.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HDX 7 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Cloning built in Kindle app

Hi all,
New Kindle owner here, and a very resourceful Android/iOS nerd.
My question is simple-- has anyone had success in cloning the built-in "Amazon Kindle" system app?
I'm looking to use multiple Kindle accounts. One is my US account (Prime account; where I have most of my audiobooks) and one is my JP account (where I have most of my Kindle books).
From what I recall on my TF300T tablet, the Google Play store edition of this app takes your Amazon login directly from the main screen when you first open it. In contrast, the Amazon Kindle system app on Fire devices takes your login from the account you use in Amazon's version of the Settings app.
I've tried using an app from the Play Store called "App Cloner" and have purchased the full version. I tried cloning the "Amazon Kindle" app twice with different configurations, but have not played with it much more. Most I've tried is removing permissions from it, in an effort to block it from automatically taking my US login from Settings.
I'm afraid that the remedy to this may be to download the Play Store version and clone that one instead. Problem is I lost my TF300T, and the Play Store on my Kindle reports it's already installed. (Interestingly enough, Google Play doesn't recognize Audible as already installed-- making a second copy of Audible easy to obtain)
Anyone have luck with this? Would love to figure out how to make this possible and write up a guide for it.
I'd like to know this too. I bought a kindle on someone elses amazon account so their account came attached. I removed it, but then that family member asked to read their kindle on my fire. So I couldn't add the account back for 6 months. So I was hoping to just remove the default one and add the regular version from the play store but it doesn't function for some reason. I would love to be able to log into a different kindle account just for the book store. I've had a bad time switching ROM and had to get a new one so I'd like to just avoid changing the OS for now.
Well, I have some good news and bad news regarding the subject. But, overall I would say it's progress none the less.
I *DID* find my TF300T, so I was able to download the Play Store version of the Kindle app and successfully clone it. I also managed to successfully install the cloned app. Unfortunately this is as far as I got.
When I launch the cloned app, the splash screen loads very briefly and the app crashes. I will test installing the cloned app on my TF300T and see if it opens cleanly on that device.
If it works on the TF300T, then there is something on the Fire 7" that prevents the clone (or even just the stock app) from operating correctly. I will post back (or edit my post) with my findings.

Cannot install certain apps from Google Play Store on AOSP rom

I successfully rooted and hacked my Fire 7 5th Gen tablets to an AOSP rom, following the talesofatech.com article titled "Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: AOSP ROM" (sorry my account is too new to post links).
There are certain apps that I cannot install -- particularly, Google Calendar and Nest. After the installation process reaches 100%, I get an error that says "Can't Install app. Try again, and if the problem continues, get help troubleshooting. (Error code: -505).
Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can get around this? Thanks.
darby123 said:
I successfully rooted and hacked my Fire 7 5th Gen tablets to an AOSP rom, following the talesofatech.com article titled "Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: AOSP ROM" (sorry my account is too new to post links).
There are certain apps that I cannot install -- particularly, Google Calendar and Nest. After the installation process reaches 100%, I get an error that says "Can't Install app. Try again, and if the problem continues, get help troubleshooting. (Error code: -505).
Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can get around this? Thanks.
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Pretty common issue. You can try sideloading your apps.
I just tried sideloading, and it worked. Will slideloaded apps be able to update through the Play store?
darby123 said:
I just tried sideloading, and it worked. Will slideloaded apps be able to update through the Play store?
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I don't believe consistently so. For example, I have Plex purchased through Amazon. It never updates through Google Play. Maybe I'm wrong, but I swear I've had sideloaded apps get updated, but then some don't.
After I sideloaded Calendar, it shows up in my play store as an installed item.
I sideloaded Google News, Nest and GroupMe, and they both still say "Your device isn't compatible with this version", but they work perfectly fine otherwise.
darby123 said:
After I sideloaded Calendar, it shows up in my play store as an installed item.
I sideloaded Google News, Nest and GroupMe, and they both still say "Your device isn't compatible with this version", but they work perfectly fine otherwise.
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Hopefully most of your apps should be okay then.
I wonder if calendar will update automatically. I had also earlier sideloaded the calendar and saw that it shows up as installed. But I don't know whether it will autoupdate. That being said, yes it's a little inconvenient, but not a big deal. For me, I don't plan on using the tablet for much of anything other than videos (Plex, Amazon Prime, Dish Anywhere), so calendar and a couple of other items is all I need and most of my apps loaded okay through the Play Store.

Understanding how to for Apex (launcher) on Fire 7 7th Gen 5.4.0.1

I have a Fire 7 7th Gen, running Fire OS 5.4.0.1. It has Apex launcher & Launcher Hijack v3. I ran the script to setup widgets successfully.
I did set the Accessibility options for:
Apex Launcher
Apex Automatic Install / Uninstall Pro
To detect home button press
all on.
rebooted.
I see a flash of the stock launcher followed by Apex, which I understand is normal.
Sometimes I see a message :
Use Apex Launcher as Home with a 'Just Once or Always ' choice,
I say always but it does not seem to stick. Did I miss any steps
in setting up an alternate launcher, or is it more Fire OS weirdness?
For the most part, the directions are fine, and everything works around
95%. I have the launcher running an HTC sense style flip clock / weather
widget, mini widget (battery, wi-fi, bluetooth and airplane mode in
a 1x1 widget) and a calendar agenda widget all working as expected.
I just wondered if it is just a Fire OS thing for it not remembering
I'd set use Apex Launcher always before??
Running Apex (free) on 7th Gen 10 Inch 5.5.0.0. Doesn't ask for me it sticks.
I don't know, weird. I suppose I should be happy that it woks as well as it does . It does seem more responsive
than my 5th gen Fire 7's
fuzzynco said:
I don't know, weird. I suppose I should be happy that it woks as well as it does . It does seem more responsive
than my 5th gen Fire 7's
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If I had to guess, I would say it's a new thing with the most recent Amazon patch. Maybe they came to the conclusion they weren't going to win users over with their launcher. Though it asking all the time is annoying, It could be a way to switch between them. The flash happens on all launchers, some more so or less so than others. On 5.4.4.0 you could Downgrade Fire launcher and uninstall/disable it, while keeping the home button, but breaking the recent apps button, but there is no flash. However you can downgrade back to 5.4.0.0, since you do have a 7th Gen. tablet.
DragonFire1024 said:
If I had to guess, I would say it's a new thing with the most recent Amazon patch. Maybe they came to the conclusion they weren't going to win users over with their launcher. Though it asking all the time is annoying, It could be a way to switch between them. The flash happens on all launchers, some more so or less so than others. On 5.4.4.0 you could Downgrade Fire launcher and uninstall/disable it, while keeping the home button, but breaking the recent apps button, but there is no flash. However you can downgrade back to 5.4.0.0, since you do have a 7th Gen. tablet.
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I just want it to work reasonably, (if that is itself not unreasonable ).
Since 5.4.0.1 I am having problems installing Kodi No Limits builds,
the wizard gets loaded, and then is unable to download any of the
4 builds from any of the sources. It worked fine with 5.4.0.0 and 5.3.3.0
(which came on the tablet). Sometimes widgets stop updating for
not reason. I wish Amazon would let the device work as I the user
want it to. What I want to run as user app is my business on my
device not theirs.
Fire Launcher can be force stopped and its data cleared. There does
not appear to be any updates. The usual Android option to disable is
missing. Is there a package manager command to disable or hide it
or something? Something I can issue from adb shell?
fuzzynco said:
I wish Amazon would let the device work as I the user want it to. What I want to run as user app is my business on my device not theirs.
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Keep in mind Amazon does not market this device as a fully customizable Android tablet. It exists as a captive (locked down) portal to Amazon's vast ecosystem. Ever wonder why there are no open/unlocked tablets at similar price points? Money talks.
fuzzynco said:
I just want it to work reasonably, (if that is itself not unreasonable ).
Since 5.4.0.1 I am having problems installing Kodi No Limits builds,
the wizard gets loaded, and then is unable to download any of the
4 builds from any of the sources. It worked fine with 5.4.0.0 and 5.3.3.0
(which came on the tablet). Sometimes widgets stop updating for
not reason. I wish Amazon would let the device work as I the user
want it to. What I want to run as user app is my business on my
device not theirs.
Fire Launcher can be force stopped and its data cleared. There does
not appear to be any updates. The usual Android option to disable is
missing. Is there a package manager command to disable or hide it
or something? Something I can issue from adb shell?
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The widget issue I think has a lot to do with not being able to control wifi scan intervals or other scan related functions so the wifi drops out more than it should. For example, one setting not available is the 'avoid poor connections' toggle. With root, there are apps and simple build.prop edits that control that some of those features. With older Fire 7s, the Nexus custom ROM really does an incredible job of fixing the problem altogether.

Fire OS 6..3.x and play store (latest Fire HD 8)

Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.

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