Hi all,
New Kindle owner here, and a very resourceful Android/iOS nerd.
My question is simple-- has anyone had success in cloning the built-in "Amazon Kindle" system app?
I'm looking to use multiple Kindle accounts. One is my US account (Prime account; where I have most of my audiobooks) and one is my JP account (where I have most of my Kindle books).
From what I recall on my TF300T tablet, the Google Play store edition of this app takes your Amazon login directly from the main screen when you first open it. In contrast, the Amazon Kindle system app on Fire devices takes your login from the account you use in Amazon's version of the Settings app.
I've tried using an app from the Play Store called "App Cloner" and have purchased the full version. I tried cloning the "Amazon Kindle" app twice with different configurations, but have not played with it much more. Most I've tried is removing permissions from it, in an effort to block it from automatically taking my US login from Settings.
I'm afraid that the remedy to this may be to download the Play Store version and clone that one instead. Problem is I lost my TF300T, and the Play Store on my Kindle reports it's already installed. (Interestingly enough, Google Play doesn't recognize Audible as already installed-- making a second copy of Audible easy to obtain)
Anyone have luck with this? Would love to figure out how to make this possible and write up a guide for it.
I'd like to know this too. I bought a kindle on someone elses amazon account so their account came attached. I removed it, but then that family member asked to read their kindle on my fire. So I couldn't add the account back for 6 months. So I was hoping to just remove the default one and add the regular version from the play store but it doesn't function for some reason. I would love to be able to log into a different kindle account just for the book store. I've had a bad time switching ROM and had to get a new one so I'd like to just avoid changing the OS for now.
Well, I have some good news and bad news regarding the subject. But, overall I would say it's progress none the less.
I *DID* find my TF300T, so I was able to download the Play Store version of the Kindle app and successfully clone it. I also managed to successfully install the cloned app. Unfortunately this is as far as I got.
When I launch the cloned app, the splash screen loads very briefly and the app crashes. I will test installing the cloned app on my TF300T and see if it opens cleanly on that device.
If it works on the TF300T, then there is something on the Fire 7" that prevents the clone (or even just the stock app) from operating correctly. I will post back (or edit my post) with my findings.
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Hey everyone,
I just upgraded my Streak 7 to Honeycomb, and mostly everything is working great, and I really love the new interface. But some things I'm having issues with.
I've got the new Honeycombed Email app, Gmail app and Calendar, which make much better usage of the screen real estate. But I can't get the new version of Google Docs, or Amazon Kindle. Both of those have the same interface as before.
The other thing, and I don't know if this is normal or not, but I now have two Android Markets. One looks like it's for Phone Apps, and the other for Tablet apps.
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Google Docs, but when I search for it in the tablet market, and click install, it just opens up the phone app market. I can then search in there, and install it, but I still get the old single column interface.
With the Amazon Kindle App I'm unable to uninstall it, as it's built into the Dell Android install (haven't rooted, still a bit of a novice when it comes to Android, so not sure what the consequences of that would be). I've tried updating the Amazon Kindle App, but I still get the same single column book list as before (saw screen shots in the Market showing a more tablet friendly interface with bigger book covers)
I just discovered this forum today, wish I would have found it sooner!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
To update Kindle you'll need to use the phone market (the second one on my tablet) and update it from there. I've found the tablet market crashes trying to update it.
I'm still playing around and I don't use Docs so I can't help with that.
I have found that enabling Google Instant can often cause the browser to crash when manually entering addresses.
Is anyone else experiencing issues installing apps from the Amazon app store? My wife and I both picked up 16 GB Nook Tablets for Christmas last year and loved them. These were our first foray out of the eink ereader realm and we were immediately hooked. Skip ahead a year and I think I'm going to pick up the new Nook HD+ and she has already picked up a new Kindle Fire HD 8.9".
She likes everything about her new toy with the exception of what a pain it is to install apps from the Amazon app store. She can connect to the store and search through the apps with no problems. It's just when she goes to install an app that everything bogs down and the little circular, rotating, "I'm working" icon appears and then it just hangs there. Forever. Eventually an error pops up and she'll have to try again. She'll have to try this two or three times, often with a reboot or two thrown in for good measure, for every single app she wants to install.
It doesn't appear to be a connection issue. She can browse the Internet just fine, and quickly. She's tried from home, from our local public library, from a local McDonald's and from a local Starbuck's. She's had the same results everywhere she's tried.
We're hopeful it's just a bad Kindle Fire and exchanging it for another will fix the problem. I'm curious if anyone else has experienced an issue like this or if it is something common to the Kindle Fire.
Any information or assistance would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
- Byron
I spoke with my wife again. I was mistaken on what exactly the issue was. I thought the issue was installing apps. The issue is actually with loading the app store. Take my original problem and replace it with "the app store won't load" and you pretty much have the problem.
- Byron
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bfollowell said:
Is anyone else experiencing issues installing apps from the Amazon app store? My wife and I both picked up 16 GB Nook Tablets for Christmas last year and loved them. These were our first foray out of the eink ereader realm and we were immediately hooked. Skip ahead a year and I think I'm going to pick up the new Nook HD+ and she has already picked up a new Kindle Fire HD 8.9".
She likes everything about her new toy with the exception of what a pain it is to install apps from the Amazon app store. She can connect to the store and search through the apps with no problems. It's just when she goes to install an app that everything bogs down and the little circular, rotating, "I'm working" icon appears and then it just hangs there. Forever. Eventually an error pops up and she'll have to try again. She'll have to try this two or three times, often with a reboot or two thrown in for good measure, for every single app she wants to install.
It doesn't appear to be a connection issue. She can browse the Internet just fine, and quickly. She's tried from home, from our local public library, from a local McDonald's and from a local Starbuck's. She's had the same results everywhere she's tried.
We're hopeful it's just a bad Kindle Fire and exchanging it for another will fix the problem. I'm curious if anyone else has experienced an issue like this or if it is something common to the Kindle Fire.
Any information or assistance would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
- Byron
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I suspect there is a problem with the MarketIntentProxy.apk or ApplicationsProvider.apk service which is located in /system/app/
Have you tried to clear the Cache and Data in the Appstore? Pull down the upper bar, choose More, then select Applications, then Installed Applications. Scroll down until you see Appstore. Select Appstore and Clear Data. Restart the Kindle and try again. Anything?
Do you also have Google play store on the kindle. I found that play store updating the kindle app native to the fire will make the store portion of it not work. Reinstalling from Amazon and disabling auto updates on play store solved that for me. It's not exactly the same idea but that might be your problem.
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Did any of this help? What was the exact error your wife was seeing?
Did you try a system Restore?
Or did you decide to have it replaced?
When I try to enable the parental controls and disallow in-app purchasing, I have to give my Amazon password. This is accepted, and the settings change on their specific page, but when I return to the general settings page, the changes are not remembered.
That would sort of be OK if the defaults were safe, but they're unsafe to your wallet.
Anyone else having this? I can remember that it being a pain on other devices too, but it's working on a Nexus 7 with stock Android 4.3.
I have optimus 4x HD I just installed cyanogenmod 10.2 the amazon app asks me to log in every time I open an app that was downloaded with amazon app store or I open the amazon app store and none of the settings get saved like disabling in app purchase.
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I have optimus 4x HD I just installed cyanogenmod 10.2 the amazon app asks me to log in every time I open an app that was downloaded with amazon app store or I open the amazon app store and none of the settings get saved like disabling in app purchase.
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It's retaining my ID - I don't need to log in with the two 'got from Amazon' programs, and if I close it and reopen the program itself, it remembers who I am, just not retaining these settings.
It would be worth you checking if each time Amazon thinks you're creating a new device: there's a fairly low limit and I know from past experience that each time I need to log in on it, it creates a new one.
I own a galaxy s4 i9505 with cm10.2 and have the same problems. everytime i start the amazon app store it asks for my login data...and every login creates a new device in my amazon account any ideas how to fix that?
I'm having the same problem with my Nook HD+.
CyanogenMod version 10.1.3-RC2-ovation, although going back and looking at my devices on Amazon, it looks like it was doing it with the previous stable version, which was the original version I installed.
I'm hoping deleting all those extra devices doesn't screw up the app store....
Just leave the most recent one and delete the rest.
It really is a stupid bit of design on Amazon's part though.
Like the title says , no root, just a standard fire 5th gen tablet with the play store installed, it logs into my google play account just fine, it sees all the apps that I've bought and installed on my phone, my payment options, whole nine yards. But every single app that had to be purchased is being treated as if I haven't purchased it., despite being listed in the "my apps" tab. Is there a way to correct this? I really want to try playing baldur's gate on my tablet, but I'll be damned if I am going to pay $10 AGAIN.
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Like the title says , no root, just a standard fire 5th gen tablet with the play store installed, it logs into my google play account just fine, it sees all the apps that I've bought and installed on my phone, my payment options, whole nine yards. But every single app that had to be purchased is being treated as if I haven't purchased it., despite being listed in the "my apps" tab. Is there a way to correct this? I really want to try playing baldur's gate on my tablet, but I'll be damned if I am going to pay $10 AGAIN.
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this has been reported a few times
cause Unknown, for most paid apps install normally
Could try a different version of play store?
reboot the fire?
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Tried rebooting, no luck. Can I update the play store? If so, how?
As an update, just leaving the tablet alone for a while after installing google play, it updated on its own, and now the problem is solved. WOOHOO BALDUR'S GATE!
Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!
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Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!
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http://www.howtogeek.com/282425/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-hd-8/
(same technique works on 5th gen Fire)
Discussion thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...google-play-store-fire-t3486603?tag=823814-20
Worked flawlessly. THANKS!
I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore
Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.
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I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore
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Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.
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Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
How old are your kids?
I have a 4 and a 6yo boys, who both have a Kindle kid edition since Christmas 2015. When I first turned them on, I was extremely disappointed that the entire tablet was Amazon centered. Of course a quick look at XDA and both tablets were rooted running CM12 within minutes.
We of course did lose the whole "freetime" interface, which has only 12 months of free content, but figured that it would teach them Android, and maybe even make them smarter. Between Netflix, Youtube and youtube kids there was no real loss in not having freetime installed.
In order to block content, simply install Nova launcher, and hide apps that aren't kids related, and setup the home screen to be kid friendly (bigger icons, no google search bar, home button to open app drawer etc).
Now I can tell you that my 6yo totally mastered Android, creates app shortcuts, change backgrounds, downloads games etc. My 4yo can navigate Android comfortably, start apps he likes, search for videos on YTK and Netflix.
I feel that it challenged them to learn the OS as is, without sheltering them in a tailored made easy kid interface.
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Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Sweet, thank you! Looks promising! I'll give it a shot later tonight after she goes to bed so I can sit down and focus. I'll report back :good:
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!
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Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!
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How do you install framework on free time side?
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How do you install framework on free time side?
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Take the 4 apk files (the google framework and playstore) and put them on the root of the sd card. Use a computer to do that. When I was trying to copy from internal memory to sd card i kept getting errors.
Once the 4 files are on the root of sd card, shove it back in the tablet, then go into freetime, launch the file explorer that's recommended in the walkthrough and install each one.
You may need to wait after first boot like 10 minutes for whatever apps you have installed on that sd card to rebuild. That happened to me when i put the sd card in, even though the tablet was off
fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help
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Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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Actually just registered finally so I could reply to this. I wrestled with this a bunch over Christmas - the key to doing this is an app in the Amazon Kindle App Store called GoToApp (I used the free demo version). Since it is in said store, you can assign it to your child account via the Freetime app on the parent side. I also also temporarily added a file manager to the child account as well - I used ES File Manager, which is also free and in Amazon's App Store, though I believe any file manager would work. Since they are now assigned to your child account, they should show up on the carousel in FreeTime mode like any other app . I then loaded the 4 APK files needed for Google Play and the YouTube kids APK onto an SD card. You then go into the child account and install the apps, using the file manager to get into the SD card. Once done, go into GoToApp - this app is essentially a launcher, and you can add YouTube Kids into it and let them launch the YouTube Kids App from within GoToApp. Both my older and younger sons very quickly learned that essentially GoToApp's icon = YouTube now.
A few other notes on this, however- if your kid is smart, they can use GoToApp for other things. I had manually installed a file manager and he figured out how to unhide it in GoToApp and then went to town. For my 3-year-old this was obviously a non-issue, and it has worked fine for him.
Also, the YouTube Kids app is very, very finicky when trying to get it installed. I found a specific version that worked when nothing else did. I don't know that version off hand, but can dig it up later if needed. I essentially just kept going back versions via APKMirror until I found one that worked (though once installed I never have had to update it, and it still works fine). I also found that installing the Play framework seemed to work best if I installed it only on the kid account and not the parent account - one tablet I had installed it on my account first, and then probably wiped it a dozen times overall before it worked decently. Only installing it on the parent account would give errors when it was then run via the kid account, and I had problems when I installed it on both. Once I figured out the way to do it, the other tablet was fine; I didn't have any problem with that tablet.
In the end, though, I ended up reverting back to a normal kid account for the older child - the combination of the backdoor combined with a lessened amount of parental controls led to him getting a little too into it some nights. I think that both of those issues are really more my fault more than anything else, especially the latter. What we did end up doing was putting YouTube Kids in the parent account and locking down as much as we could (can't open the Play Store or Settings without a PIN and so forth), and he now has to ask to watch (instead of being let loose with it) and is at least semi-supervised now. This also let me take better advantage of the FreeTime controls. On the other hand, the younger one still has this GoToApp setup 9 months later, and it has worked well for him with no problems to speak of.
Anyway, novel of a post, but if rather have someone learn from the mistakes I made and not have to put hours into it like I did.
EDIT: For some reason I thought that the above comment was second-to-last without any reply to it. Oh well, hopefully this helps someone.
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fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help
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Might try Google Play Services 10.2.98 (230-146496160) instead - this is, I believe, the version I installed on my kids' tablets (one 2015 Kindle Fire 7" and one late 2016 Kindle Fire HD 8", if memory serves). I actually just did a wipe/reinstall on the HD tablet last week and the same file worked for me on the parent side at least (didn't reinstall on the kid account though).
Safe Vision app is similar to YouTube Kids
You can try Safe Vision app which is similar to YouTube Kids. Just search for 'Safe Vision' on Amazon App Store.
Disclosure: I am developer of this app.