Lack of physical home button annoy anyone else yet? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...

I am beside myself. There are times when I am getting irritated because of complacency and then there are times when I am loving the real estate...

I am having problems swiping up for the navbar and it hits other apps. Or especially if I'm like text messaging and I swipe and my keyboard comes up. I made the nav bar stay on and it helps but I lose the real estate. Hope with root we can disable the navbar and use 3rd party nav bar on the side.

slaapliedje said:
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
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My phone is still on preorder, so I can't check, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that there is a setting to set the required pressure to activate Home

Yeah, I could have sworn I saw that too, but damned if I can find it now...

Found the link, but no phone yet, so can't test
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...r-rearrange-buttons-make-it-disappear_id97873

Not in the least, using transparent nav bar layer and I have a gigantic screen. If you want black nav bar always use this. Install like an app and reboot, go to settings>display>nav bar>back ground color>select black>push slider to the right

I prefer a real button

I was annoyed at first, but I do admit I love the taller screen Samsung implemented this time by using the physical/capacitive button area for more screen space, unlike other OEMs content to stick with 16:9 screens and waste that space on soft keys. After all, Samsung lets you hide the nav bar with a quick double-tap.
Having to call up the nav bar for back and recents got old fast, but a Reddit poster clued me in on a neat hidden feature: if you force-press the home button, you can side-swipe for back or recents, no swipe-up for nav bar necessary! It does take some getting used to, though.

bonerp said:
I prefer a real button
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So get rid of the Note 8. The lack of a home button was implemented on the S8 series, it is the new norm.

I am coming from S8+ so no, it doesn't bother me at all. It took all of 5 minutes to get used to it on S8+

slaapliedje said:
While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...
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no. not at all. this is how it was before. I prefer this way and loving the ability to hide the buttons too. very happy.

Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.

Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.

RavenY2K3 said:
Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.
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but it is there and that's the beauty of the phone. all that gorgeous glass and screen with nothing to take away from it. had no problem when I used older phones and tablets that were the same way. I predict you'll adapt fairly fast. I did.

I have the nav bar auto hide (swipe up to get nav bar), even when hidden you can hard press where the home button usually is to simulate a home button push

I would of NEVER bought the Note 8 if it still had the old, ugly, 2007 iphone home button.
Its 2017, not 2007 peoples.
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pete4k said:
Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.
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Just hard-press area where home button is. No need to wait for anything to show up.

Coming from a Pixel XL it doesn't bother me at all. Just another Learning curve.

It has a physical home. Press hard in the middle 1 inch from the bottom edge of the phone. Great move on Samsung's part.
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[Q] Top of screen very unresponsive on new NC

Hey
Just got my brand new NC and for some reason the top part of the sceen just won't easily accept input.
It took me almost 100 tries to activate the slider in setcpu.
Any ideas. ?
Thanks Pavlos
You can try this:
http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen
Did this work?
Yep tried that to no success.
Anything else?
Also just noticed in Market that I cannot see any payied apps.
I too have had a lot of trouble with the top edge of the touchscreen, luckily I don't use it too much so it doesn't bother me.
All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
Mine is not as responsive, but I do not have that bad of a problem with it.
Paul22000 said:
All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
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same here....
You suggest thats unfixable....
Paul22000 said:
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen
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in my case the newer market search button works a lot better than the previous one. still, far from great
Ive had the same exact issue. And can be replicated if you turn the device upside down, all 4 corners have to be touched multiple times in-order for it to register.
best way to test is in portrait mode and trying to hit the search button, tap once a second, unresponsive.....4 times in a sec and it will highlight once.
download the lcddensity app in the market place and change it to 180 that worked for me
Not exactly sure how changing the lcd density would fix this....downloaded anyway...applied...still doesn't work
What is funny though is that TouchTest the screen is insanely responsive on all areas on the screen from edges to multitouch. So im not entirely sure what the deal is.
Sometime I have to apply a little pressure to the back of the nook to get those parts of the screen to work. Pressing the bezel a little also helps. The larger density will make buttons easier to press because they are bigger. Small buttons/icons at the corners/edges of a screen are a pain. I bumped mine up to 240. Nice big juicy buttons.
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I have the same here. Corners not responsive.
Not a big issue for me.
I also have the screen protector on.
Corners here also. Irritates me every time I try to search market.
Both NC I have used have the exact same sensitivity issue. It may just be part of the stock NC Kernel that is causing it for some odd reason. It is not completely impossible to work with but it is a bit of a hassle. It is really apparent in the Astro app manager/backup. When you go to check an app to uninstall, it takes like 20 taps to try and check the box to uninstall an app. Odd how it gives me trouble there but in other apps it has no problem whatsoever. Software based issue it feels.
The response from edges of screen is my biggest irritant when using the NC. It did get a LITTLE better for me when I did the recalibration linked to in 2nd post with my NC laying flat on a table with the lcd facing down.
Paul22000 said:
All 4 corners of the screen are very unresponsive for me.
For example, on the new Market, I can pretty much NEVER hit the search button in the top right corner of the screen. I have grown accustomed to pressing Menu then Search instead of using that on-screen button.
Is this not how everyone's NC is?
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I thought that's just how it was.
exactor_mortis said:
I thought that's just how it was.
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HAHAHAHAH me too!!! I just figured maybe soft keys rendered the actual market search button unusable or something. Wow....well, hopefully it won't start to annoy me now that I know it's supposed to work

[Q] Issues with new HTC One

I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Thank you for any help.
FrankthaTank said:
I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
Me too. I am gonna RMA it, this is a QC issue. Two of my other ones are fine, this one is bad.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
Does your auto brightness work properly? Many people were reporting problems with the ambient light sensor.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
I have no idea what this is. Google voice probs?
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
HTC has sacrificed functionality for aesthetics. You'll get used to it, though.
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
Why would you do this? Does the power saver notification bother you so much?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Double tap home.
Thank you for any help.
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The volume rocker is flush to the body of the phone but Ive had no problems using it? Maybe because I'm using a case I'm not too sure
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joshiy99 said:
The volume rocker is flush to the body of the phone but Ive had no problems using it? Maybe because I'm using a case I'm not too sure
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Yes, a case makes it much easier because then there is nothing to stop your fingers from pressing the volume buttons. The bezel is the culprit here.
True, but I can't imagine not having a case for such a beautiful phone
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joshiy99 said:
True, but I can't imagine not having a case for such a beautiful phone
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That's oxymoronic, not to mention a double negative.
FrankthaTank said:
I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Thank you for any help.
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1: How flush is it? Mine is flush but I can still press it easily without a case on. With a case on, I have to place my finger a certain way.
2: The buttons are light sensitive. So if you're in the dark, they will light up. If you're out in the sun or in a room with the light on, they won't light up. That's one thing I love about HTC.
3: Umm maybe spotty coverage? Or it could be a defect. Not sure about that one.
4: Volume rocker is fine if you don't have a case on. Just try hitting it near the very top or bottom to make it easier.
5: Are you asking about the power saver notification? If yes then yeah, every time you reboot. Or you can just leave it there. I don't mind it as I am switching the power saver on and off quite often.
6: You double tap the home button.
Hope this helps!
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OP, if it is hard at all to press the power button, return it or exchange it. My other Ones are SUPER easy to press. I have to get around to mailing this one in, but I'm not sure if I should because everything else about this phone is pretty much perfect.
And to see if your button lights are working, just cover the ambient light sensor with your finger. The one at the top left. Hold it for about 3 seconds. The lights should turn on. It think it's very smart that they only turn in when there is very little light.
I would have like a nav bar better though.
Okay so I'm exchanging the phone for the power button issue. Sad that the volume rocker issue will continue, but I can handle that one. The power button on mine is an absolute nightmare. I have to jam a fingernail in there to turn it on and half the time it doesn't work. Have to hit it just right.
The capacitive buttons do not light up in the light, dark, whenever. I cannot see the buttons and have to guess. Believe me, no one would love this feature. On my HTC EVO 4G LTE the lights came on. It gets annoying having to guess every time. I want the lights to come on.
My other big problem has nothing to do with google voice. I'll have full reception and not be able to make calls and text messages have to be resent. Seems like the phone is not working with the network correctly.
Yes the power saver notification is unacceptable. It is annoying to have a useless notification in the status bar. I'm not the only one it bothers and it needs to be removed permanently. Also I need Sprint ID to stop changing my custom screens. I would like my phone to work the way I want it to. I wanted an upgrade not a downgrade. When I get one with a working power button rooting should solve this, but if that wasn't an option I'd be shopping for another phone.
Figured out the double tap on home shortly after, but thanks. I still need to figure out how to stop Sprint ID from messing up my home screens. I tried disabling the icon pack for now.
FrankthaTank said:
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The capacitive buttons do not light up in the light, dark, whenever. I cannot see the buttons and have to guess. Believe me, no one would love this feature. On my HTC EVO 4G LTE the lights came on. It gets annoying having to guess every time. I want the lights to come on.
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That's sure not right. Hopefully your exchange doesn't do that, because mine lights up at all times of day.
FrankthaTank said:
My other big problem has nothing to do with google voice. I'll have full reception and not be able to make calls and text messages have to be resent. Seems like the phone is not working with the network correctly.
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Again, not an issue here. Hopefully something your first unit just struggled with.
FrankthaTank said:
Yes the power saver notification is unacceptable. It is annoying to have a useless notification in the status bar. I'm not the only one it bothers and it needs to be removed permanently.
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Gone in 4.2, I believe. In the meantime though, you can long-press on the notification, head over to App info, and force stop the relevant app. Kills the thing quite nicely.
FrankthaTank said:
Also I need Sprint ID to stop changing my custom screens. I would like my phone to work the way I want it to. I wanted an upgrade not a downgrade. When I get one with a working power button rooting should solve this, but if that wasn't an option I'd be shopping for another phone.
Figured out the double tap on home shortly after, but thanks. I still need to figure out how to stop Sprint ID from messing up my home screens. I tried disabling the icon pack for now.
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Can't really help you here. First thing I did when I got the phone was disable all of the bloatware (built-in Android disable function), although I later killed it off with Titanium Backup. Never had much an issue there though. Tried another launcher, maybe?
sauprankul said:
That's oxymoronic, not to mention a double negative.
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First a double negative is the only way this phrase works. Otherwise it's "I imagine having a case." which does not convey the point. Sure could go with "can't imagine leaving the phone unprotected" which is still a double negative without another "not" but that just seems nit-picky.
Also the first thing I do with phones when I get them is put a case on them. After many beautiful phones becoming banged up, scratched, ugly phones you learn that a case keeps them beautiful. The aluminum will scratch easily so putting a case on it is a good idea. There are clear cases so you can still see through. You could just be really careful and paranoid with it though it will probably get scratched anyway. It's up to you, but in no way is it odd or a contradiction to protect the appearance of a beautiful phone with a case.
FrankthaTank said:
First a double negative is the only way this phrase works. Otherwise it's "I imagine having a case." which does not convey the point. Sure could go with "can't imagine leaving the phone unprotected" which is still a double negative without another "not" but that just seems nit-picky.
Also the first thing I do with phones when I get them is put a case on them. After many beautiful phones becoming banged up, scratched, ugly phones you learn that a case keeps them beautiful. The aluminum will scratch easily so putting a case on it is a good idea. There are clear cases so you can still see through. You could just be really careful and paranoid with it though it will probably get scratched anyway. It's up to you, but in no way is it odd or a contradiction to protect the appearance of a beautiful phone with a case.
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Just poking, mate. :s
Anyway, OP, I hope you can resolve these issues. The bloatware can easily be removed via root. The Power saver notification is gone in the 4.2 update. (We'll get that soon, hopefully)
The texting thing is bizzare. I really don't know what that was.

Button-less Wake!

The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
RErick said:
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.
I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.
megamorphg said:
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Roundtableprez said:
Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..
Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
thread closed.

Quick List of Gripes

Had my S5 since launch day so I'm pretty comfortable with the overall feel and navigation of the device (came from a Note 3, miss the size but I'll get over it)...however, I do have some issues with the phone and if you know any trick to eliminate these issues or if you at least know what causes these issues, please let me know..these issues taint an otherwise great experience compared to my S4 last year.
1. Serious lag when pressing power button, home button, or opening up S-View cover to wake screen...literally takes 4-6 seconds to come on
2. When streaming a video, phone randomly turns screen off, meaning I have to press that power button again, confirm my fingerprint again, and press play...again...
3. Lock screen and S-View weather doesn't update if you don't have the Accuweather widget on your homescreen
4. Is it just me, or is the word recognition of the Samsung keyboard when using swype motions worse than its ever been?
5. recent apps takes about 2 seconds to come up after pressing the button
Other than that, I'm pleasantly surprised at battery life, never had wifi speeds like this before, screen looks great, S-View cover is still the sh*t, my fingerprint scanner works flawlessly, camera is really impressive, navigation has virtually no lag at all, and thank you Samsung for Private Mode...no more garbage Gallery Lock applications...
Sounds like you've got a bad device, I've got no lag at all, including when opening the s-view case. Might want to switch it out for another while you can.
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1. Serious lag when pressing power button, home button, or opening up S-View cover to wake screen...literally takes 4-6 seconds to come on
no lag at all here, smooth and fast, pry the first time I've ever used a stock Android device that's this smooth and fast out of the box.
edit: not sure of s-view cover as I don't use it, I use a Khomo Slim on my Tab3 8.0 and it's pretty quick waking up, just checked and it's like a second or so to wake up.
2. When streaming a video, phone randomly turns screen off, meaning I have to press that power button again, confirm my fingerprint again, and press play...again...
no issues here either
3. Lock screen and S-View weather doesn't update if you don't have the Accuweather widget on your homescreen
not sure as I'm using GoLauncher Prime and loose the Sammy widget, trying to find another good one as I have Beautiful Widgets Pro from before but haven't installed after seeing all the complaints about it now on newer devices
4. Is it just me, or is the word recognition of the Samsung keyboard when using swype motions worse than its ever been?
no problem here either, was fine for me on stock keyboard, switched to swiftkey though since I own it
5. recent apps takes about 2 seconds to come up after pressing the button
again no issue here, pretty much instant for me
composi said:
1. Serious lag when pressing power button, home button, or opening up S-View cover to wake screen...literally takes 4-6 seconds to come on
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my lag is maybe 1-1.5 seconds, JUST on the border of being okay and annoyed. so it's okay for now
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my lag is maybe 1-1.5 seconds, JUST on the border of being okay and annoyed. so it's okay for now
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Ah, the patented power button and home button lag. I remember them well from my Note 3. Samsung fanboys will try to tell you that it doesn't happen, but they are in denial. The Note 3 was the fastest Samsung device I have owned and it still did it. And the power button lag drove me mad.
Only issue i seemed to be having is that the display doesn't seem to be flush so I'm collecting dust on the top already.
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No lag here and certainly no 2 second delay for recent apps. But then again, I'm sure it's just because I'm a Samsung fanboy who's in denial.
karmuh said:
No lag here and certainly no 2 second delay for recent apps. But then again, I'm sure it's just because I'm a Samsung fanboy who's in denial.
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Every time there's some kind of reported lag/delay for a device, there are always a handful of people with the device (thus invested in it and in need of validation for their purchase) who insist that the lag doesn't exist, even when every single review and blog site confirms it.
I wouldn't say that the multitasking lag is 2 seconds, but it's definitely there. It was mentioned in a few professional reviews and I confirmed it myself on a display unit. It's not a horrendous delay, but it's definitely not as instantaneous as it is on other phones. It may be that it's waiting to confirm that the button isn't being held for the secondary function (menu), which is the perils of using one button for multiple functions.
On my Note 3, sometimes the power button would work as expected and other times, you'd push it and it would be a full 2-3 seconds before the device would turn on/off. Even after I disabled every single service I didn't need/want, it persisted. I would love to think that Samsung eliminated all of these little delays, but the reality is that they need to rewrite Touchwiz from the ground up and optimize it.
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Ah, the patented power button and home button lag. I remember them well from my Note 3. Samsung fanboys will try to tell you that it doesn't happen, but they are in denial. The Note 3 was the fastest Samsung device I have owned and it still did it. And the power button lag drove me mad.
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Fanboy my a$$, also have an iPhone 5 and 5S. I have no lag with multi or home, maybe a split fraction of a second just like my iPhone (just as responsive as them) , guess I'll have to get a vid to prove it
If the split second is considered lag, then our iPhone 4S/5/5S are laggy too
I'm not saying the phone is garbage, just that it'd be nice for this phone to be close to the M8 in terms of reaction...anyone who has messed with an M8 will tell u that the moment you press something it comes up, zero lag, zero waiting for extra input.
However, I'll sacrifice that for imo a better overall phone.
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1. Serious lag when pressing power button, home button, or opening up S-View cover to wake screen...literally takes 4-6 seconds to come on
No real lag for me. 1/2 a second or so it seems.
2. When streaming a video, phone randomly turns screen off, meaning I have to press that power button again, confirm my fingerprint again, and press play...again...
Haven't seen this issue on mine at all
3. Lock screen and S-View weather doesn't update if you don't have the Accuweather widget on your homescreen
This drives me nuts! I thought it was just me!
4. Is it just me, or is the word recognition of the Samsung keyboard when using swype motions worse than its ever been?
Works good for me. I so far haven't felt the need to go back to swiftkey which has been my go-to for nearly 2 years
5. recent apps takes about 2 seconds to come up after pressing the button
Takes about the same amount of time it takes the screen to power up from hitting the power button. 1/2 second or so.
I think I'd be visiting a store ASAP if your phone is having these lag issues. Have read a few reports about this but I haven't really seen it on my device so far.
Has anyone experienced app crashes lately? My phone has been working great for days now, then today it seems like every app in open crashes and stops responding. It will lock up my phone and won't stop until reset.
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I have a quick gripe, I could be missing something though.
There is no real indication that I see if I am on wifi or not.
It still says 4g and the status bar doesn't seem to change unless I am missing something.
PunchLick said:
I have a quick gripe, I could be missing something though.
There is no real indication that I see if I am on wifi or not.
It still says 4g and the status bar doesn't seem to change unless I am missing something.
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The wifi signal icon shows you are on wifi....
Oh then something is wrong with my phone or there is a setting that needs to be adjusted,
I do not see the wifi symbol anywhere
Turning wifi on and connecting it is the only thing you should have to do.
I can confirm multitasking and wake up lag.
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Finally it works, I dont know if it helped, but I cleared cache, restarted and forgot and reconnected to wifi and now icon is back.
I honestly have no lag what so ever on practically anything. I am using Nova Launcher though if that changes anything. Swype is ****ty though, I just want root...
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Br4nd3n said:
I honestly have no lag what so ever on practically anything. I am using Nova Launcher though if that changes anything. Swype is ****ty though, I just want root...
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The only lag i experience is through Samsung apps and multitasking button. I'm guessing it's because it is waiting for a hold. Just like if you disable s voice on home key your back to home response time is much faster.
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[Q] notification dropdown too sensitive

Hi, I have a problem with my sony z3 compact, the notification dropdown dropsdown often with a very light tap.
It's so sensitive that the notification bar drops often by itself by tapping apps buttons which are at the top of the screen (back in gmail, whatsapp etc.)
Try it for yourself by tapping lightly at the base of the "o" on the sony logo.
is this a hardware fault with my unit or does your z3 compact do the same?
Luca
varignet said:
Hi, I have a problem with my sony z3 compact, the notification dropdown dropsdown often with a very light tap.
It's so sensitive that the notification bar drops often by itself by tapping apps buttons which are at the top of the screen (back in gmail, whatsapp etc.)
Try it for yourself by tapping lightly at the base of the "o" on the sony logo.
is this a hardware fault with my unit or does your z3 compact do the same?
Luca
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I think it's meant to behave that way.
Do you sometimes have the problem where home screens, pictures, etc bounce back unintended when you swipe through them?
degraaff said:
I think it's meant to behave that way.
Do you sometimes have the problem where home screens, pictures, etc bounce back unintended when you swipe through them?
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I made a video illustrating the issue:
http://youtu.be/YOXADb5NgPI
I suppose it is a software choice rather than a hardware one, however my samsung S4 and my old experia ray don't behave this way. You must slide the finger vertically over a portion of the screen to enable the notification dropdown, tapping would not automatically drop down the full notification screen. To me this sounds like a problem because it makes it hard to click buttons at the top of the screen most as of the time the damned notification menu drops down covering the whole screen.
I searched for an option under settings to change the notification settings but either I can't find it or there isn't anything to change it from tap to slide.
Regarding your question I'm not sure, I don't think so. The only issue I noticed (aside from the notification dropdown activated by tap (really annoying) is the camera:
If you set a lock option and unlock the phone by using the camera icon, and then you change the camera mode the phone locks itself again. Basically the 'unlock using the camera icon' let's you take pictures with the selected camera mode without unlocking the phone, but you still have to unlock the phone to use any other phone feature.
I suppose it is a software choice rather than a hardware one, however my samsung S4 and my old experia ray don't behave this way. You must slide the finger vertically over a portion of the screen to enable the notification dropdown, tapping would not automatically drop down the full notification screen. To me this sounds like a problem because it makes it hard to click buttons at the top of the screen most as of the time the damned notification menu drops down covering the whole screen.
I searched for an option under settings to change the notification settings but either I can't find it or there isn't anything to change it from tap to slide.
varignet said:
I made a video illustrating the issue:
http://youtu.be/YOXADb5NgPI
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It does that for me as well, I think it's normal for this device, maybe Sony programmed it that way.
degraaff said:
It does that for me as well, I think it's normal for this device, maybe Sony programmed it that way.
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Thanks for the fast reply, don't you find that the statusbar drops down accidentally too often when navigating the top portion of the screen? it's a bit annoying IMHO (or perhaps I have big hands )
I'll need to check in the play store to see whether there are apps that let you change the way the notification bar is activated
It hasn't bothered me, so far.
Though I just checked on my Xperia Z2 Tablet and it doesn't behave that way on that one. Maybe the Z3C's touch screen is just too sensitive, as a side effect of the technology that makes the glove mode possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B60caaAbz4M
Has this never happened to you with this phone? Mostly when using it with one hand only.
degraaff said:
It hasn't bothered me, so far.
Though I just checked on my Xperia Z2 Tablet and it doesn't behave that way on that one. Maybe the Z3C's touch screen is just too sensitive, as a side effect of the technology that makes the glove mode possible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B60caaAbz4M
Has this never happened to you with this phone? Mostly when using it with one hand only.
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No it hasn't (but I need to pay more attention when using a single hand, will get back to you ). I tend to use two hands because, being the device so smooth I need to be careful and fight gravity quite a lot, I managed to almost drop it two times as it tends to slide from my hand
varignet said:
No it hasn't (but I need to pay more attention when using a single hand, will get back to you ). I tend to use two hands because, being the device so smooth I need to be careful and fight gravity quite a lot, I managed to almost drop it two times as it tends to slide from my hand
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Alright. Which firmware version is yours on, by the way?
It is sensitive, although for me it took me until now to see, I guess I don't tend to touch the very top of the screen.
techguyone said:
It is sensitive, although for me it took me until now to see, I guess I don't tend to touch the very top of the screen.
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where do I find the firwmare version?
p.s.
Did you find a way to move apps to the sdcard? I can't seem to find an option to do so under settings apps.
Same
I have the same Problem with the sensitive notification menu... just lightliy tap anywhere close to it and it springs down and covers the whole screen. Coming from iOS where these things weren't even an issue, it's very annoying. It's currently the main reason why I want to try a different ROM.... Problem is I'm somehow unable to unlock my bootloader, and even then I'm not yet sure how to change the ROM. Damn, on iOS things were so simple... jailbreak tool, go to cydia, customise everything however I want....
varignet said:
Thanks for the fast reply, don't you find that the statusbar drops down accidentally too often when navigating the top portion of the screen? it's a bit annoying IMHO (or perhaps I have big hands )
I'll need to check in the play store to see whether there are apps that let you change the way the notification bar is activated
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Not sure if this will solve your problem, but you can check out All In One Gestures from the Play Store and activate tapping the status bar to do "nothing" by leaving it blank.
Edited: N/m, just tried it, didn't work. Still a useful app though! I'm using it for full immersive mode, so that's kind of another way to solve the status bar problem.
boojay said:
Not sure if this will solve your problem, but you can check out All In One Gestures from the Play Store and activate tapping the status bar to do "nothing" by leaving it blank.
Edited: N/m, just tried it, didn't work. Still a useful app though! I'm using it for full immersive mode, so that's kind of another way to solve the status bar problem.
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I gave it a go and it didn't work either, sony must do some lowerlevel tweaking to the notification bar.
I hope they fix it soon
Another sony dumb crap that I hate. It's so damn sensitive that it pulls down every time I use the phone to my ear. Sometime some quick settings activated and I had no idea wtf happened.
Dumb fuc.k sony is so annoying. Even my Z3C is rooted, I haven't found a way to disable this crap. Full of crapwares, cheap crappy glass and display, now this. Seriously all sony engineers and designers should just eat shi.t and die.
I thought I was alone in this. I've become fed up in call pull the phone away from my ear and it activates the pull down. Sigh.

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