I have it enabled and it says it auto turns off WiFi and back on when near used wifi locations but it doesn't do that at all. Does it simplyeave WiFi on but low energy?
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Yeah it works.
How do you know it doesn't do it? Cellular phones hand off betwixt cellular and wifi all the time.
When and how often it does is based on some under the hood shenanigans that we dont know about.
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How do you know it doesn't do it? Cellular phones hand off betwixt cellular and wifi all the time.
When and how often it does is based on some under the hood shenanigans that we dont know about.
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I drive away from my house. WiFi stays on but not connected. Screenshot says wifi will turn on when near known connections but it never turns off ?
masri1987 said:
I drive away from my house. WiFi stays on but not connected. Screenshot says wifi will turn on when near known connections but it never turns off ?
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I don't think it's supposed to turn off. What that phrase means is that it will connect to WiFi when it's near a saved access point and will use mobile data when none are nearby, but WiFi will still remain on.
What adaptive WiFi does is it will use mobile data even if it's connected to a WiFi access point if the WiFi signal is bad.
I'm not sure what adaptive wifi supposed to do, I have it off and it switches between wifi and cell as it should. Is it switching in the middle of data transfer or something? Because right now I probably drop connection if move outside wifi range and will be on cell tower on the next redial. But to tell truth I never tested it.
So basically it's a gimmick, because Wifi as it is, will auto-connect to previously connected networks as long as you had wifi on. If i'm interpreting the screenshot properly the feature "turns on" wifi, therefore, it must be able to turn it off? I've even manually turned it off to see if it will turn itself back on when i get back home and nothing either.
No documentation on Samsung's site as far as i can find
masri1987 said:
So basically it's a gimmick, because Wifi as it is, will auto-connect to previously connected networks as long as you had wifi on. If i'm interpreting the screenshot properly the feature "turns on" wifi, therefore, it must be able to turn it off? I've even manually turned it off to see if it will turn itself back on when i get back home and nothing either.
No documentation on Samsung's site as far as i can find
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Basically if you're connected to WiFi but have crappy signal like .2 kbps, it will start using your mobile data even if you're still connected to that WiFi. With adaptive WiFi turned off, it will keep using the crappy WiFi connection until you manually turn WiFi off or manually disconnect from the crappy network. Pretty much the reverse of WiFi calling (use WiFi if phone signal is crappy). Note the exceptions sentence at the bottom, it will not use mobile data even if the WiFi has a crappy signal if the crappy WiFi is exempted.
The "turn on" statement is correct, it will automatically turn on and connect to WiFi when it's in range of "trusted" access points (similar to "trusted devices" and "trusted places") but there is no automatic "turn off", at least, it hasn't done that while I've been using it.
OK i see what you are saying
wifi does not PHYSICALLY TURN OFF. wifi is still connected--the phone will auto switch to the stronger of the two. it won't turn the on screen "switch" off if that is what you are looking for.
its not a gimmick. it works if you are in an area with robust wifi and/or cellular. its supposed to work "in the background" so you don't know its going on.
google fi kinda does this. since google fi uses tmobile and sprint, the phone auto switches between the two carriers depending on which is stronger at the time. i've seen this happen by monitoring an app.
masri1987 said:
So basically it's a gimmick, because Wifi as it is, will auto-connect to previously connected networks as long as you had wifi on. If i'm interpreting the screenshot properly the feature "turns on" wifi, therefore, it must be able to turn it off? I've even manually turned it off to see if it will turn itself back on when i get back home and nothing either.
No documentation on Samsung's site as far as i can find
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Not a gimmick at all. I work at a hospital that has wireless routers throughout that all piggy back the same access point. I see Adaptive wifi in action all day. Keeps me from losing my connectivity from my work portal.
don't think I want to have this on: I have limit on my cell data, let's say I start downloading something large, let's say 5- 10 GB movie from Amazon on wifi, then I go to my upstairs bedroom, wifi gets weaker, so it switches itself to stronger cell tower and eats my whole month data allotment in one evening, before I even notice? And all I had to do is keep the phone downstairs, next to the router to avoid it. Or am I missing something?
harveydent said:
Basically if you're connected to WiFi but have crappy signal like .2 kbps, it will start using your mobile data even if you're still connected to that WiFi. With adaptive WiFi turned off, it will keep using the crappy WiFi connection until you manually turn WiFi off or manually disconnect from the crappy network. Pretty much the reverse of WiFi calling (use WiFi if phone signal is crappy). Note the exceptions sentence at the bottom, it will not use mobile data even if the WiFi has a crappy signal if the crappy WiFi is exempted.
The "turn on" statement is correct, it will automatically turn on and connect to WiFi when it's in range of "trusted" access points (similar to "trusted devices" and "trusted places") but there is no automatic "turn off", at least, it hasn't done that while I've been using it.
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Exactly what happens to me when I leave home. My phone (old Note 7) will stay connected to my home network but won't be able to pull down any data from the net. It has to be manually turned off.
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thanks for the education!!
Any 3rd party apps you can recommend that would do what i am looking for?
so an update. It work exactly how it says it would. I had to drive 7 miles out, but wifi automatically turned off, even with scanning off, once i got home it turned back on.
I like it. It works great for me.
masri1987 said:
so an update. It work exactly how it says it would. I had to drive 7 miles out, but wifi automatically turned off, even with scanning off, once i got home it turned back on.
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Ah, that's the thing. I noticed my WiFi would automatically turn off sometimes and sometimes not, and I couldn't reproduce it reliably. It's most likely either distance or time you have to be away from the "trusted" access point.
Congrats, now you can forget about toggling WiFi forever!
I think this setting has been screwing with my wifi related Tasker profiles. Suspect it really does turn wifi off.
I used to switch my wifi off manually when leaving the house.
All this #[email protected]\%! public wifi, blocking my internet because asking to log in....
Any shop or restaurant where you walk in does it.
And you do not know it, till you search the web and see that there is no internet at all till you switch your wifi off or log in to the shops fishing routers.
Adaptive wifi is a must have and a great improvement.
E.g. walk in a MacDonald's with adaptive switched on or off, you will see it is mother's little helper.
You need to have enough data from your provider of course.
Huib
masri1987 said:
thanks for the education!!
Any 3rd party apps you can recommend that would do what i am looking for?
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Ifttt on Google play store
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How do you know it doesn't do it? Cellular phones hand off betwixt cellular and wifi all the time.
When and how often it does is based on some under the hood shenanigans that we dont know about.
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Now that is some sweet use of the English language!
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Hi. I've bought my first Android device, a HTC G1 Dream. I've gained root access, installed the last Cyanogen release (with Android 1.6), RA-1.2.3.
What I've noticed is a strange behavior, quite different from the one I had with my BlackBerry Bold.
When I'm home I enable wifi, to save some datas from my (limited) contract. It works and I've set not to disable wifi when in standby. It works. But as soon as I go out (and the wifi coverage finishes), it doesn't re-enable UMTS data until I awake it from the standby manually.
It's quite annoying...is there a way to change this kind of behavior?
Thank you very much!
Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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When I connect via Wifi, it disconnects from edge, gprs or umts. And doesn't reconnect when the wifi coverage ends (unless I "re-awake" the phone,pushing the menu button)
from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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Yes, I cannot see the icon as soon as I wake up it. Then, in some seconds, it reconnects. More, I can see it's not just a "icon" issue because my K9-mail stops collecting my mailboxes when that situation happen.
I did a search and only found one reference to this in a post. So dont flame on if I missed it.
I can connect to my network fine at home over the WiFi but if I leave the cellular connection on it is terribly slow. If I go into airplane mode and then turn on the WIFI separately its blazing fast. It appears the cellular wants to take priority over the WiFi. Has anyone else experienced this or found what causes it. Below are my phone specs and network.
HD7 with WiFi, Bluetooth, cellular enabled.
Netgear wireless N
I completely agree with this statement btw.
In my basement my "wifi" connection is HORRIBLY slow on my hd7. Many, and I repeat MANY times I feel as though i'm still using my 3G connection instead of the wifi as it should.
Just wanted to comment on this, i'll search later on, maybe i'll find something else.
just turn on cellular connection when you need it , and turn off when don't need.(when u have wifi nearby)
Thats what I do but it shouldn't work like that. There should be WiFi priority when available for data services.
If ur wifi signal is too weak , it can be so.
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I did a search and only found one reference to this in a post. So dont flame on if I missed it.
I can connect to my network fine at home over the WiFi but if I leave the cellular connection on it is terribly slow. If I go into airplane mode and then turn on the WIFI separately its blazing fast. It appears the cellular wants to take priority over the WiFi. Has anyone else experienced this or found what causes it. Below are my phone specs and network.
HD7 with WiFi, Bluetooth, cellular enabled.
Netgear wireless N
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I have the same phone as you, from TMOUS, and I have noticed the same effect, cellular over-riding the wifi, and I think that the cellular is just set as the default... and I think that is the way it is intended, by the carrier(s), because then we would use our minutes/data up quicker then otherwise... I have noticed when using wifi, and not on airplane mode, that minutes/data are consumed at a MUCH quicker rate, than when on wifi w/airplane mode on... and thanks for pointing this out, I may not have payed as much attention otherwise... I am leaving TMOUS, maybe going to Simple Mobile, or something like that, and I will be keeping a much closer eye on it now... right now, with no carrier, I am using my phone strictly on wifi and it is pretty damn fast, and I only have an 802.11G router, not an 802.11N router like yours... which only makes me want an N router even worse... I'll post any more info as it appears, and thanks again!...
@ artmodeler At work I can understand a week signal but not at my house. I am about 10 feet away from the router which is located on my desk. Also the connection manager in the settings is showing full bars.
@ mlongue1 Yeah it works amazingly fast on my WiFi under airplane mode. I use Super Tube for my you tube client and theres little if any pausing to buffer large videos. Not so much when the cellular connection is enabled.
Is there a way to disable automatic WiFi connections when WiFi is on?
I was able to get around the automatic connection to my workplace's WiFi (they block sites and require a PC-generated pin to log in, thus I have no actual data if I forget to turn off WiFi) by checking that "Block Network Notification" box. I do have to connect to it at times which is the only reason I haven't forgotten the network.
But.. anytime I walk into a Starbucks, it'll connect to its WiFi network automatically. I went to AT&T Park this past weekend and it did the same thing (didn't realize until doing anything took forever). 4G/LTE is much faster than using these WiFi networks and I hate having to go in and turn off WiFi when I'm in public areas. I walk into range of these networks I don't know about and it automatically connects which is irritating.
Not sure about a built in setting to not connect to certain networks without forgetting them, but you could just put a WiFI toggle widget somewhere
I'm running the EQS from Android Revolution so I do have that option. Just hate when I forget to turn it back on when I get home.. lol
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Is there a way to disable automatic WiFi connections when WiFi is on?
I was able to get around the automatic connection to my workplace's WiFi (they block sites and require a PC-generated pin to log in, thus I have no actual data if I forget to turn off WiFi) by checking that "Block Network Notification" box. I do have to connect to it at times which is the only reason I haven't forgotten the network.
But.. anytime I walk into a Starbucks, it'll connect to its WiFi network automatically. I went to AT&T Park this past weekend and it did the same thing (didn't realize until doing anything took forever). 4G/LTE is much faster than using these WiFi networks and I hate having to go in and turn off WiFi when I'm in public areas. I walk into range of these networks I don't know about and it automatically connects which is irritating.
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Well, you can always pull up the list of networks and long press each one. Then you can block it. Over time you will block all the places you generally go.
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Well, you can always pull up the list of networks and long press each one. Then you can block it. Over time you will block all the places you generally go.
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I figured I'd need to do that. Just wish it didn't automatically connect to WiFi networks I've never seen.
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I figured I'd need to do that. Just wish it didn't automatically connect to WiFi networks I've never seen.
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My TMO doesn't do that; it just alerts me that there are open networks available.
Hello,
I've used my Mi A2 around 2 weeks now and I'm really satisfied with the phone. However, I got some annoying issue about wifi. When the signal strength of wifi is not so strong (below -70 dbm), it tends to disconnect for around 10-20 sec and then reconnected again. This happened to me like 10 times since I got the phone. And wifi works perfectly without disconnections when the signal strength is strong enough.
Does anyone experience this issue? Or I got a defected device?
Thank you
Same here, sometimes it just disconnects ...
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It is a normal stock android behavior, because android detects that signal of wi-fi is to low, and tries to switch automatically to GSM mobile data, or to another wi-fi if it is available in the area.
I don't have this happen but wifi signal is strong and also; gsm data is turned off.
That *may* help to turn that off possibly, as it obviously can't (now) switch to it?
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It is a normal stock android behavior, because android detects that signal of wi-fi is to low, and tries to switch automatically to GSM mobile data, or to another wi-fi if it is available in the area.
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Even if mobile network is off? Is there a way to change such behavior? I tried to find in the setting but what I just found is Aggressive WiFi to mobile handover, which was already turned off.
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I don't have this happen but wifi signal is strong and also; gsm data is turned off.
That *may* help to turn that off possibly, as it obviously can't (now) switch to it?
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It happened both when mobile network was on or off.
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Even if mobile network is off? Is there a way to change such behavior? I tried to find in the setting but what I just found is Aggressive WiFi to mobile handover, which was already turned off.
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I think that it is called smart wifi, or wifi+ option in other types of android OS, and here it is just a automatic option in stock android i guess.
I don't mind it, because it will change my wifi router AP if it get stuck, and need an reboot, so it will automatically switch to another closest one that works.
You better think of some way to get a better signal then to turn off this function.
Try with aps like this on the link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree
minnuss said:
I think that it is called smart wifi, or wifi+ option in other types of android OS, and here it is just a automatic option in stock android i guess.
I don't mind it, because it will change my wifi router AP if it get stuck, and need an reboot, so it will automatically switch to another closest one that works.
You better think of some way to get a better signal then to turn off this function.
Try with aps like this on the link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree
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The thing is that wifi also disconnected when there's no other nearby networks to switch to. I did something to get better signal in my room but this still happened sometimes.
Im turn WiFi every time ON per Wifi disonnect or lose intensity. Im turn ON screen and WiFi connect/intensity up
Settings - WiFi - Settings icon - Wi-Fi always ON during sleepmode: ALWAYS.
PD: Sorry my bad english
¿solutions?
PD: use b156 patch1
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I think I have found the problem. Wi-Fi+ activated. Turn OFF
No. Huawei has completely buggered the wifi implementation. It is easily the worst I have ever seen on a modern phone.
I have access to conformance test equipment as part of my daily work and so I have tested some more difficult to pass test cases.
The P20 pro fails nearly all wifi alliance handover tests that I have checked.
For example, when you are on a cellular connection and then you access a wifi network which requires a login, like at an airport or McDonalds, the cellular connection must be kept until a data connection via wifi can be positively initiated.
The P20 does not wait. You can see that it performed a PDP context deactivation on the cell side and trys to use only wifi. Fail
I have the same issue. WiFi is set to not sleep with screen off, but if I'm streaming from my Plex server over WiFi, it always cuts out after a couple of minutes after the screen being off.
What do you mean by "Wifi+ activated"? Where do you turn that off?
I have the same problem and it really sucks.
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What do you mean by "Wifi+ activated"? Where do you turn that off?
I have the same problem and it really sucks.
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The only solution is to get a different phone. Huawei has completely F'ed up Android with their EMUI nonsense.