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Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.

shadowcore said:
Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates

The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.

inigagah said:
The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...

brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.

I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..

i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(

greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!

i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse

Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).

Maczuga said:
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.

[email protected] said:
Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.

Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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[email protected] said:
Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.

Maczuga said:
In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...

Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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[Q] Moto X (sale) vs Nexus 5?

I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?

Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..

4.4.2 is soon available for the X. So expect that to come soon as Motorola seem to be shipping updates quicker than any other company out.
ROM development is low because the phone is basically vanilla Android.
Doubt anyone will get the Moto X features. Though it will be replicated, it won't be done the same as in terms of battery management and core processing.
Possibly after the Moto X stops receiving updates, we may have more than a handful of devs jumping on board.
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Neogx said:
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
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yeah everyone seems to love the active notifications and touchless control. I'm also not sure how much the extra cores will even matter on the Nexus 5. Most pc applications still aren't properly written to take full advantage of my 4 core computer processors.

Quikster said:
I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
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I decided on the Moto X with the Nexus 5 being a close runner up. My decision was based primary on the Active Notifications, MotoMaker, and (currently) fast updates. Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.

If you want to be able to use your device and have your battery last throughout the day, Moto X. If you want vanilla AOSP without the Moto additions (not sure why you would), buy a developer edition.

damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?

Well I was in the same boat as you. I went for the Moto X because I wanted a phone that, like the iPhone, seems to have been developed around the custom cpu. The only other phone I have ever had that I miss was the Galaxy S2 with the Exynos cpu. So from my view, building a phone around a custom cpu setup should provide better overall experience. That's what I saw when I played with the demo units. I hate seeing lag on my Galaxy S4, especially since it's it's a Snapdragon 600. Plus plain Android just seems better. Forget the fancy overlays.
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I don't even own a Moto X (Galaxy S4), but I'm going to straight up tell you to buy the Moto X. Why?
- Active Notifications (actually useful; I use an app on my Galaxy S4 that is basically a clone)
- MotoMaker/Developer Edition (one or the other, not both)
- Neither have a removable battery or expandable storage, but I know from a lot of people and reviews that the Moto X FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR outlasts the Nexus 5. Yes, the Nexus 5 has the better specs on paper, but the Moto X is far more efficient and performs much better in day to day tasks than top tier devices (Galaxy S4, Note 3, etc).
- Quick updates; the Moto X got Android 4.4 right after the Nexus 5 and before the Nexus 4.

Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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This wont' affect me one way or the other. I don't see anything really changing near term, and they've actually grown the laptop business they bought from IBM several years back, and they just bought the low end server business from IBM as well.

imma try out motox and see how it is i cant just write it off since im really curious how it works and runs. If its not for me ill just return it and just go for the nexus 5 =]

I've had both. Returned the N5 straight away. Bad feel in the had, terrible battery (with my usage pattern). Have been rocking an S4 since it came out, last few months with Google Play Edition. Recently got a Moto X and would definitely recommend it all day long over the N5. Feels so great in hand and battery is indeed excellent. It's a tradeoff in terms of screen resolution/size (doesn't make much difference, honestly) but for me I appreciate the in the hand feel.

Hikikomori-Otaku said:
Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
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I have the N5 & Moto X dev and for a daily driver I choose the Moto X, because of the size, shape, battery life, & the OS "tuned" to multi processors. Yes the N5 has some better specs, & for certain users it's a preference. That said, the Moto X will serve quite well for a few years, at least. So within the next 2 years the convergence of the desktop & phone will be underway & a worthy upgrade to the Moto X will be available. If your not going directly into hacking (N5 if so), then the Moto X is very good choice.

I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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yeah the reason i've done it in the past is to remove bloatware and add functionality like tethering.

I think choosing between the N5 and Moto X is a very tough choice. I had the N4 and I love the freedom, MultiRom is a killer feature and it's very hard to let that go.
I chose the Moto X for its advertised features, the battery life, it's size (since I don't like big phones). I love AMOLED screen for the contrast, deep black and lack of backlight leakage, this is one of the best AMOLED screen I've seen in term of colors calibration, it's not extremely saturated like others. Also my impression is the Moto X is somewhat better built, the fact that it have nano coating to provide some water resistance is nice. I'm now also pleasantly surprised it have a great sounding speaker despite in the rear, it's the best sounding rear speaker from a phone I've heard.
I will eventually root my Moto X when I'm certain there are no issues that required use of warranty, but I love the touchless control and active display so I won't be going to custom rom without those features, unless there are some work around (I do use AutoVoice with Tasker). It's just that with other phones they don't have the optimized CPU or they lack AMOLED screen, so even with those third part alternatives I imagined they use up more battery. Despite my Nexus 4 having a quad core, for most tasks they aren't used (unless you install a custom kernel and tweak them). With the Moto X all the cores are better optimized and I'm guessing the language recognition and contextual cores help ease the work load when possible, so really it is more than a dualcore though I wouldn't call it "quadcore". In the end the benchmark score simply beat my Nexus 4 score, which had to be overclocked to match.
There are two things that disappointed me about the Moto X, lacks of qi charging and the headphone jack is CTIA format (I think), which means I need to use an adapter to use some headsets, this is true with some Sony phones, it bother the heck out of me. And also the lack of MultiRom, I really hope it will come to the Moto X one day though.
I think it's a really tough call, the Nexus 5 is a better device if you don't use the Moto X features and want to use custom roms or kernels. With the introduction of KitKat I mostly used stock on my Nexus with ART enabled, custom kernels is still something I desire though.
Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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They haven't been bought out and the deal is being finalized, the us govt could step in to prevent it. I don't think I will worry too much about it, I'm just a little skeptical if the Moto X will continue to get updates and fast. Lenovo knows what they're doing, they did okay with Thinkpad and they aren't going to waste $3 billion on a brand just to ruin it. If I had a Moto G I wouldn't be worried at all since it have tons of kernels and roms.
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The language core and contextual core are for doing operations while the phone is sleeping. For example on my Galaxy S4, an "always-listening" feature would significantly impact my battery (and a lot of apps with that option will tell you this), but not with the X's low-power cores. The Snapdragon 800 also has that low-power listening core, but not lower-end CPUs (e.g. Snapdragon 600).

[Q] Future Proof?

Is it safe to say this phone is future proof? I'm in the market for a new smartphone and the X has been at the top of my list(Pure edition). They've already confirmed it will be receiving Lollipop so thats a plus. I know the 801 processor is no slouch, but i'd have to imagine everything moving forward by 2015 should be carrying an 805. Although its still early, the lack of development (based on threads) kind of turns me off. I don't want to solely rely on Moto to push updates to my phone. I'm a flashaholic, so not being able to mess around with the latest drives me nuts lol. Aside from that, the specs on the phone seem great it runs fluid and its a great size. What do you guys think?

I think of this phone like a "Nexus+", its pure stock android with very useful features. Dev doesn't seem like its going to take off any time soon for this phone. By the way people are talking on the forum...we should be one of the first to see Lollipop on our phones so that's a plus for the X.
The only downside I see on this phone is the camera could be better and an SD card slot would be great. I'm sure a future update will take care of the camera issue.
And nothing is future proof.

Motorola phones have been pretty "future proof" as I still have plenty of support for my Razr Maxx HD. If you have an unlocked bootloader (pure edition) then you are good to go. As far as processing power, the phones are much more capable than anything software developers can throw at it. I have a lowly S4 in my Droid Maxx and everything runs smooth. One thing to consider since you are a flashaholic is that the stock rom will be better than any other rom out there since the software that makes a moto x a moto x does not work on other roms, ie. the active display and touchless controls. Of course there are alternatives but they are no where near as polished and well executed. The twist to launch camera feature is so simple I can't believe it is a moto exclusive. Makes you laugh at those other developers and say wtf, such as wtf Samsung, their software is awful, so much so that you can't even be mad at it, just have to laugh. That is the reason why development for the og moto x and droid ultra/Maxx is so slow or in the case of the Maxx, CM dropped it completely. It is not because of poor sales, but because there is a lack of interest. I've flash many ROMs on my razr but I always end up switching back to stock, debloated of course.
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No current phone is future proof...
The last year has seen very little advance in ARM-based phones. That won't be true of the next year. In a year, only low-to-mid range phones will be 32 bit. New chips will be on 20 nm process with better power management. I've ordered a Moto X to be a 2-year phone, but in 2 years, the current technology is going to be quite dated. My hope is more effort is put into power management than processing power for the next generation. I think the X will be updated regularly making it last better than an S5 or G3, but it won't stay current for capabilities a year from now.

I loved my Razr MAXX HD, just like Johnny Wong said, and it can still hold its own ( What I mean is that Moto phones usually have great support for long after they have been released). I don't necessarily think the phone is "future proof" because its hardware will certainly be outdated by next year. But, I do think this phone will be useful for years to come. I get that pretty much means future proof, I just wouldn't exactly use that wording. I have the VZW edition, so I don't have an unlocked bootloader, and I will be upgrading in a year. If you get the pure edition I think you will be set. I agree that this is almost an update to the Nexus 5.

Similar device to the 2nd gen Moto X?

I've been thinking of upgrading from my 1st gen Moto G. I eventually settled on the 2nd gen Moto X as a suitable replacement. Unfortunately, due to a horrendous experience with Motorola customer service, that's not going to be happening. I kind of settled on the 4.7" Idol 3 as a replacement (yeah, quite a step down, and more of a sidegrade from a Moto G), but I thought before I pulled the trigger I'd try to crowdsource another option.
Basically, my priorities are:
Length no greater than 140mm (5.5"). So I guess I'm looking at a 5" screen.
Unlocked GSM.
Price range $200-300 (new).
Not terribly old; still available new.
Company with a decent track record of getting OS updates to their devices.
Any opinions on non-Moto options I could look at?

fornax.sh said:
I've been thinking of upgrading from my 1st gen Moto G. I eventually settled on the 2nd gen Moto X as a suitable replacement. Unfortunately, due to a horrendous experience with Motorola customer service, that's not going to be happening. I kind of settled on the 4.7" Idol 3 as a replacement (yeah, quite a step down, and more of a sidegrade from a Moto G), but I thought before I pulled the trigger I'd try to crowdsource another option.
Basically, my priorities are:
Length no greater than 140mm (5.5"). So I guess I'm looking at a 5" screen.
Unlocked GSM.
Price range $200-300 (new).
Not terribly old; still available new.
Company with a decent track record of getting OS updates to their devices.
Any opinions on non-Moto options I could look at?
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Nexus 5? Close to that price point I'm guessing!

Good luck finding anything, most newer phones are either to big or to expensive or both. The moto x 2014 has its flaws for sure but based on your above specs its STILL your best choice.
https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR2
Starting at $299 new

Optimusman said:
Nexus 5? Close to that price point I'm guessing!
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Wow, I didn't actually realize that was in my price range (or close enough, anyway). That's really tempting, but it's almost a 2 year old phone (actually a month older than the phone it would be replacing). I think I'd be concerned about how long it's going to be supported yet. Definitely a step up, though, so I'll consider it. Thanks!
adm1jtg said:
Good luck finding anything, most newer phones are either to big or to expensive or both. The moto x 2014 has its flaws for sure but based on your above specs its STILL your best choice.
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Yeah, after the experience I just had, I'm voting with my dollars. Moto is out for this one.
I just ran across the Huawei P8 Lite, which is sort of looking interesting at first glance.

maybe wait on the new lg based nexus that should be announced in a few months i think its only 5.5"

adm1jtg said:
maybe wait on the new lg based nexus that should be announced in a few months i think its only 5.5"
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Are you talking about what I've been hearing referred to as the Nexus 5 2015? Will probably be out of my price range at release, and I'm not sure I can wait that long. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
As great as the old Nexus 5 looks, I'm reading about Google putting a 2 year cap on major OS upgrades for the Nexus line, and that's almost up already. So that's out as well.
P8 Lite still looks interesting, except that they're still on KitKat with it. I can probably live with that until someone gets an aftermarket ROM running on it, though... I've only been playing around with Lollipop for a few weeks on my Moto, and I haven't found anything I can't live without.

just be sure you can unlock the bootloader and that there is dev support for that phone. Many of the cheaper phones ESPECIALLY meditek based ones seem to have questionable support and os upgradeability

Yeah although the nexus 5 is 2 years old the snapdragon 800 is similar to the 801 found in the moto x2014! The screen is an HD lcd panel, similar as far as resolution, yet different type of screen, x2014 has an amoled screen! And truthfully the nexus 5 if the bootloader is unlocked and your rooted with custom recovery will have the newest software for a few years to come! Unlike many other oem's which implement there own software into Android therefore guaranteeing very few updates! Look at the nexus 4, runs current 5.1.1, but I'm sure once 6.0 comes out the amazing devs will port roms for Android 6.0, and that phone is ancient lol, but it's a nexus!!! Good luck whatever you choose friend

Your opinion, is the X 2014 still a good phone to buy to-date?

After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?

I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.

I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.

rapperman said:
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up

I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker

surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature

Incredible_Culp said:
sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.

Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1

I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0

That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.