You're a power user. Can the Google Pixel 2 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Google Pixel 2. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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How in the hell does Google let their devices languish in locked bootloader prison with carriers anymore? Why don't they give us the ability to root the phone if we're developers? You'd think you could just jump right in and unlock your bootloader on the Google Store purchased ones (unlocked ones - not Verizon trash) except they don't provide a cable TO CONNECT TO YOUR PC WTF WHY AM I YELLING
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How in the hell does Google let their devices languish in locked bootloader prison with carriers anymore? Why don't they give us the ability to root the phone if we're developers? You'd think you could just jump right in and unlock your bootloader on the Google Store purchased ones (unlocked ones - not Verizon trash) except they don't provide a cable TO CONNECT TO YOUR PC WTF WHY AM I YELLING
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am i missing something? i got my pixel 2 from google store, and unlocked / rooted it easily the same day i received it thanks to awesome members here at XDA
it also included the necessary USB-C cable (and adapter to connect to type A usb ports)
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xdaninja said:
it also included the necessary USB-C cable (and adapter to connect to type A usb ports)
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The cable I got was USB-C to USB-C to plug into the phone and the charging brick. The adapter I got was USB-C male/USB-A female so you could attach it to an old phone and transfer contacts. You telling me you got a cable/adapter that let you connect your new phone to your PC?? I'm even more pissed off if that's the case...poor distribution QA on top of the other issues too?!
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The cable I got was USB-C to USB-C to plug into the phone and the charging brick. The adapter I got was USB-C male/USB-A female so you could attach it to an old phone and transfer contacts. You telling me you got a cable/adapter that let you connect your new phone to your PC?? I'm even more pissed off if that's the case...poor distribution QA on top of the other issues too?!
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I received the same as you. I used the cable from my moto z2, not sure how it could have come with anything different than what we received.
Yes Google should have included a USB C to USB A male vs female for sure.
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The cable I got was USB-C to USB-C to plug into the phone and the charging brick. The adapter I got was USB-C male/USB-A female so you could attach it to an old phone and transfer contacts. You telling me you got a cable/adapter that let you connect your new phone to your PC?? I'm even more pissed off if that's the case...poor distribution QA on top of the other issues too?!
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So Google is now responsible for you having a PC without the proper connections to plug your phone in?
Or are they responsible for you not being able to order a Micro USB to USB C adapter for a few bucks?
Which one is it I wonder...
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So Google is now responsible for you having a PC without the proper connections to plug your phone in?
Or are they responsible for you not being able to order a Micro USB to USB C adapter for a few bucks?
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I really want you to be saying this in a sarcastic tone, but since this is the internet and I can't read tone I'm just going to fly into a rage instead.
Are you seriously suggesting that once the pixel 2 comes out everyone on the planet immediately gained the ability to connect USB-C straight to their computers? Or is it that you are seriously suggesting that it is somehow nonsensical to at least include an extra adapter that mates this new cable type to everyone's existing computer connections? Yes we can purchase a crap-ton of adapters that get us from the phone to the ISS but for the minimal cost of this simple connection type and for the cost I paid I would expect that I would be able to connect my development machine to this device in the exact same fashion I've been able to connect EVERY OTHER DEVICE I'VE EVER HAD. They've all been able to connect to my PC out of the box. This is the first time I've opened a new device box and been at a loss for how to immediately get to working on it. Somehow I believe this was an oversight on the part of Google.
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I really want you to be saying this in a sarcastic tone, but since this is the internet and I can't read tone I'm just going to fly into a rage instead.
Are you seriously suggesting that once the pixel 2 comes out everyone on the planet immediately gained the ability to connect USB-C straight to their computers? Or is it that you are seriously suggesting that it is somehow nonsensical to at least include an extra adapter that mates this new cable type to everyone's existing computer connections? Yes we can purchase a crap-ton of adapters that get us from the phone to the ISS but for the minimal cost of this simple connection type and for the cost I paid I would expect that I would be able to connect my development machine to this device in the exact same fashion I've been able to connect EVERY OTHER DEVICE I'VE EVER HAD. They've all been able to connect to my PC out of the box. This is the first time I've opened a new device box and been at a loss for how to immediately get to working on it. Somehow I believe this was an oversight on the part of Google.
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Sure sure. Totally an oversight on the part of Google that you did not check which accessoires come with the phone, totally agree.
BTW, what do you think of the included headset? I think the volume is much too low, I can't hear anything. On the other hand, I never had the cables twisted yet!
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BTW, what do you think of the included headset? I think the volume is much too low...
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I... :crying: :silly: ... I'm dead.
My 200 dollar Acer laptop has a USB C port and the provided cable works fine for me. USB C is the modern standard that everyone is moving to. Is it that unreasonable to think that Google would provide cabling for the modern standard that most manufacturers are adopting?
I can't be more happy with this phone.
The only thing I'd improve is to have 4 years of Android updates instead of 3.
In development they will always be on the top because of the open binaries / developers previews etc.
However....I think that over the last years security became a top priority and now a lot of people don't open the boot loader. Even Google disabled android pay when you open it.
And the price is not in favour neither. I think Google needs to release a budget Pixel at lower price...something like 400-450$.
Theres the kernels and some homebrew ROMs.
Feels like this device is hard to work on.
TWRP now fails to decrypt after the February update.
A/B partition seems hard to support so theres no official custom ROMs for Pixel 2.
So far this phone is not what I would recommend for the serial flashers and customizers.
Just a normal phone for normal users.
I see development at Linage, at AICP for our device.
GApps are now available for Android 8.1. Many changes had to be made because of project Treble.
There is development, but for now many ppl look into things on their own and not as collective.
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A/B partition seems hard to support so theres no official custom ROMs for Pixel 2.
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It's something we came up with at Citibank in about 1989 - update to an unused part of storage. If it works, point whatever is using that part of the firmware at the update and use the place the old version sat as the next update space. The update crashed right on the last byte? No problem. You haven't repointed to it, so it's just empty space until the next try. Better than a bricked phone because the battery died right at the end of an update. It's about time Google caught up to the late 80s. (Yes, that was sarcasm.) My only complaint is the SD card - I have to carry an adapter around with me, and keep the SD card and adapter in my pocket. 128GB internal and 256GB external would have been nice. (I already have about 50GB used, and that's with only one TWRP backup.)
Maybe it's time to flash a kernel with speed adjustment, although it seems to be idling around 430-450MHz.
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While looking around my phone I came up with a couple of thoughts. First would it be possible to make devices that plugged into the miniusb port on the top of the phone and could it be plug and play? Heck maybe even make the driver if necessary built into flash memory on the new device. It seems like it just takes an kernel update to make something like this possible if it's not already.
The second thing I thought of is if the above isn't possible, why not create an attachable mirror that sits at the right angle to take advantage of the rear camera for video chat. You could project your image onto the mirror and the camera could catch that. The top idea is alot better, the bottom requires alot less knowledge. Either would get us video chat.
Interesting, i like the first idea.
I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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This is the thread you were talking about.
From what I understand about micro usb is that there are five wires/confections. The outside connections are ground and power. The two next to the ground are for data (one + and one -) and the last one next to power is a identification connection. If the wireis connected/has power then its a source device (i.e. computer). If its not, then its a peripheral (portable hard drive, out in our case, our phone). Its been a bit since I read up on that, so it might be vice versa.
Last time I tore the phone apart, I didn't look, but it may be a setting that is hard-wired (literally), or its a switch controlled by software. If it's the latter, then its possible, if its hard wired, then its not.
Adding things to the kernel or loading drivers isn't cut and paste. It takes available source code, which isn't always available, for both the phone and the device you want to use (that works with android), as well as understanding of how to make it work.
That last part I am not well versed on. But we have a couple devs trying to get the vibrant opened up. They are few, and the request list keeps getting larger.
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I was just thinking today that it would be great to have a micro-usb device that could house a camera for video chat... I like your mirror idea...I'm prius owner and that's how the dashboard works. The usb is right there...really I think someone should incorporate a device in a mod of the back cover...i don't know anything about code but I could make the case.
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Devices require a driver of some kind so the controller knows how to talk to device. For example, if I wanted to hook up my DSLR and control it, I would need a driver ported over and then the SDK for the camera would have to be ported over. An OS like Windows 7 has literally thousands of drivers built in and many other devices require you to install a driver. The only time "plug and play" actually works is either with the OS has the driver already installed or if the device is designed around a generic driver.
Incredible idea! I'm going to make the second idea. I have my own twist on the concept but it shouldn't be to difficult.
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I like the first idea but I also had a similar idea and I'd like to see the attached camera come with led's and somehow acct as a flash for both cameras. It could be tiny, if the camera app could be figured out to trigger the flash on all galaxy s models, well at least the vibrant and captivate this could sell.
If a third party app was developed it could be added to any android phone in theory. If that third party app was as good as the galaxy s stock camera app then you'd really be in business.
If I was talking to my brother I'd have tried to convince him to help me develope something. Well I hope one of you talented devs has success with this idea. I'd also like to see success with the guy adding the extra camera internally, I'd be interested in performing the mod if the software end is figured out.
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That is exactly what I was trying to say earlier. You put it in better words. Thanks
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almyz125 said:
This is the thread you were talking about.
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Ahhah, I couldn't find it to save my life last night lol! Thanks ^_^
Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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Oh, it's host mode built in already. One of the major pluses that I weighed in on when buying the phone.
"Both the S5PC110 (smartphone chipset) and S5PV210 (its netbook alternative) are optimized to ensure long battery life for mobile devices, using a 45-nanometer (nm) Low Power fabrication process and low power architectures. With the 1GHz clock speed and 512KB L2 cache, these processors should also manage to provide performance unknown to the ARM world so far.
The two processors have built-in 3D graphics engine and support 1080p full HD video playback and recording at 30 fps. The final nice features of the new chipset include a wide variety of interfaces and peripherals, including HDMI 1.3and USB 2.0 host interface."
Hate to kinda go off topic with the USB Host mode stuff again, but it seems like since the interface is built into the chip, host mode should be enabled in the kernel.
Yes? No?
Has anyone tried to get an OTG cable in there to see what happens?
Just saying.
I've been curious about this since I saw it done (rather impressively) by sonic7406 (YouTube) on the Nexus One. Since then, I hear it's also been hacked on the Droid. From my research, I'm pretty confident this should be possible with the right drivers installed on the Galaxy S series. I've gathered together an (supposedly) OTG "compatible" cable (the Nokia CA-101 for Nokia 6600 Slide/N900/etc), an extra-beefy powered hub, and female-to-female USB-A adapter. I have yet to dive into the kernel to load any special drivers, try mounting drives, etc. I'm still unsure of the "OTG" cable and may still need to manually ground that fifth pin to kick it off. Though, as far as the cable is concerned, that is the only thing that makes it OTG on one end.
Host Mode Background Info: OTG Wiki
Here's a modoco thread that includes most of the relevant links I've seen.
Ideally, I'd like to find a microUSB to USB-B OTG cable that connects directly from my phone to the powered hub, but I couldn't find any. Let me know if anyone knows where we could find these.
It seems like we could create an entire new category of toys to attach to our devices if the micro USB port could be figured out. To me that's ultra exciting!
Let's go a few steps further, Being able to physically attach a printer or hdmi (Yes, I know about AllShare) to the tv could require a simple adapter that plugs into the micro USB port on the handset. We could also have a nice flash that has brackets that mount to the handset for support to get better pics in low lighting (instead of just saying "oh, I've got night mode", bugger that).
The capability to do this has to be written at the kernel level and then we need hardware manufactures willing to make the products. Therein lies the problem, how do we get that to work?
My neighbor is an electronics engineer and I'm a machinist, my friend is a tool and die maker.
My neighbor has an idea to make a device for surface mount soldering using an inert liquid with a boiling point equal to the soldering temp. This would be a cheap alternative to infrared soldering.
Other than that I might be able to come up with a housing.
I wouldn't want to commit myself untill the software works and we've tested the soldering machine.
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You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
Sony generally advises against using third-party USB cables with Sony handsets, because data might become corrupted and whatnot. So I'd like to gather some opinions on this, since I'm finding it hard to believe that using a (good quality) third-party USB cable would cause any harm. Is there anything special about Sony's USB cables? It's not like they are of the best quality either.
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Sony generally advises against using third-party USB cables with Sony handsets, because data might become corrupted and whatnot. So I'd like to gather some opinions on this, since I'm finding it hard to believe that using a (good quality) third-party USB cable would cause any harm. Is there anything special about Sony's USB cables? It's not like they are of the best quality either.
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It's 100% bull****! (excuse my French)
And also your data may become corrupted, that chance is very VERY small and even if it happens, what are the chances that it's something super duper important.
They are just saying that you should buy their product.
Sony wanted to say that they guarantee a data transfer without interruption only with their cables. That do not exclude a same result with an another cable. If you trust in the quality of a third-party cable you are free to use it. Since the cables market it so large and the quality various so much their advise is justified.
Follow-on question regarding cables to be used during ROM upgrades (etc), if you please... apologies if this is deemed highjacking, but so far I've only found 2 threads specifically about USB cables...
Here's the deal: I've seen numerous cautions about being sure to use the cell manufacturer's cable when doing custom software ops of any kind (flashing ROMs, whatever).
The thing is, I have no idea if I still have the original USB cables for any of my 3 phones (soon to be 4). I presently use a Rocketfish cable (with USB 2.0 symbol) for all phone-to-PC and most charging.
So this is my question: If I can plug a phone into my PC, browse what appears to be everything in its partitions, plus write or delete folders and files as I please... and also run bootloader from PC and get the phone to respond as predicted...
Is that enough to think the cable is sufficient to use for software ops?
degraaff, thanks for this thread and again apologies if I'm shifting the subject too much.
I use 3rd party usb cables for both data transfer and FTF flashing. They are cheap generic ones ordered from amazon or eBay. Have had no problems and have connected and flashed many Sony phones (T, L, ZL, Z1C, Z3C) with them.
Sometimes third party cables make weird stuff happen like ghost touches and the like while charging. But i don't think that happens anymore.
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Follow-on question regarding cables to be used during ROM upgrades (etc), if you please... apologies if this is deemed highjacking, but so far I've only found 2 threads specifically about USB cables...
Here's the deal: I've seen numerous cautions about being sure to use the cell manufacturer's cable when doing custom software ops of any kind (flashing ROMs, whatever).
The thing is, I have no idea if I still have the original USB cables for any of my 3 phones (soon to be 4). I presently use a Rocketfish cable (with USB 2.0 symbol) for all phone-to-PC and most charging.
So this is my question: If I can plug a phone into my PC, browse what appears to be everything in its partitions, plus write or delete folders and files as I please... and also run bootloader from PC and get the phone to respond as predicted...
Is that enough to think the cable is sufficient to use for software ops?
degraaff, thanks for this thread and again apologies if I'm shifting the subject too much.
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Last year I lost a Galaxy S3 while trying to root it with a high quality third party usb cable. I had the original cable as well, but I thought since the third party cable is high quality too, it doesn't matter. Somehow the failed rooting attempt burnt the GSM chip. Needed to replace the whole motherboard.
With several attempts, rooting the S3 failed BUT with the original cable it worked on the first try.
I wasn't aware of what you wrote about the importance of using original OEM cables for phones but now it all makes sense to me...Be careful! Rather use original cable!
I just upgraded to an Lg G5 and would like to make use of my M8 instead of sell it.
So I've got one those Y OTG cables but apparently the charging female port is for charging other devices rather than the phone itself. So I'm guessing I need something like this cable but that actually charges the phone too. Any recommendations otherwise, and in addition, can anyone recommend a solar charger that could keep this bad boy powered whilst video recording with motion detection? Otherwise I need that cable if it exists.
And what is the process to connect to a pc and have your phone display pop up on the pc screen? Is "plug-n-play" or more involved? Just need a little direction.
Thanks!
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I just upgraded to an Lg G5 and would like to make use of my M8 instead of sell it.
So I've got one those Y OTG cables but apparently the charging female port is for charging other devices rather than the phone itself. So I'm guessing I need something like this cable but that actually charges the phone too. Any recommendations otherwise, and in addition, can anyone recommend a solar charger that could keep this bad boy powered whilst video recording with motion detection? Otherwise I need that cable if it exists.
And what is the process to connect to a pc and have your phone display pop up on the pc screen? Is "plug-n-play" or more involved? Just need a little direction.
Thanks!
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Not really a gadget, but knowledge of and ability to use search would be a great start....
How to Repurpose an Android Device as a Security Camera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/u/reusing-devices/android-phone-free-security-camera-t3298635
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Airdroid + teamview ?
solid.snake said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/u/reusing-devices/android-phone-free-security-camera-t3298635
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Airdroid + teamview ?
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Thanks. I'll check em out
I've tried a USB-C hub with HDMI as well as a screen with a USB-C connector, which both work on my laptop. I don't expect anything to work, but did anyone try the USB-HDMI converters that were reported to work on F1 a while ago?
Having a low-latency video output would be a dream come true.
It dont work, i saw a video review before buying the poco X3 .... only lg, samsung, huawei flagships do that...
Sadly I wanted to mirror Snes and PSone emulators to TV with a USB-C/HDMI output dongle and play with my Dualshock 4.. but not with poco X3
Was wondering if the DisplayLink adapters work: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80746715&postcount=53 - as I know the other cables don't.
The standard is called MHL, and I don't think poco x3 supports it :/
NHL =no
USB c audio adapter /dac =no
YES, video out is possible on the POCOPHONE X3 NFC! )
Since it's my first post, I was prevented from posting outside links. Whenever there was a link, you will now read 'google it'
You read it right, fellers. :angel:
DisplayLink is the name of the magic. Let's break it down:
1. Acquire any of the many DisplayLink enabled dongles or desktop versions. Products at the link:
google it
2. Acquire a USB-A to USB-C OTG adapter like this one:
google it
3. Download and install (no-root required!) the android app "DisplayLink Presenter" in your Poco X3 from:
google it
4. If you've already installed the app and already got your dongle
- plug the adapter's USB-A female end to the dongle's USB_A male.
-plug the cable from your HDMI monitor/TV to the dongle.
-plug the adapter's USB-C end to your X3.
5. Give it a coupla seconds ... Magic! There pops up the same image on both your phone and your TV/monitor! It's a window from the DisplayLink Presenter app. Plug and play, no need to open the app. Close it out, turn your phone sideways and enjoy the picture. Hook up a BT keyboard/mouse and you're good to go.
6. YouTube, Netflix, Vimeo all run with no problem. Games work, apps work, PowerPoint presentations work. Word works. Browsing works.
7. Desktop mode doesn't work. Charging simultaneously doesn't work (with this set up, but there is workaround...). Audio embedded in PP presentation may glitch at times.
That's it, me frends. Enjoy your POCOPHONE X3 NFC mirrored image, with no lag, in the full glory of a large monitor/TV, to the delight of your eyes!
P.S.: And for those interested in going wireless, check this one out:
google Hyper Mirror
Peace.
Just an explanation for you, I've done a truck load of research? on this, while I was deciding what phone to buy.
USB Type C have different types just as USBs do. So USBs went from 1 to 3; USB Type C have both 2 and 3, then thunderbolt, etc.
Essentially, what Xiaomi have done, is use the USB2 internals within the newer Type C connectors. So we get OTG but no video out.
This also means we don't have any more than 480Mbps data transfer speed.
USB3 is 5GB/s, USB3.1 is 10GB/s.
They are actually call them USB2 Type C/USB3 Type C. I honestly don't think a lot of places selling adapters, cables, etc. actually understand what they are selling as they label them all as Type C.
The solution to this, as above, is Displaylink, or equivalent, which I believe are still all Displaylink underneath.
Soooo what you end up with is a nightmare, a lot of people might think it's not worth the headache and carting around everything, especially if you are prone to losing things.
The simplest way to put it is that you need a USB2 Type C OTG cable, which connects from Poco X3 to an adapter (Displaylink/Wavelink/etc.), and a HDMI cable, which connects from the adapter to monitor.
There are other options, depending on how much you want to spend.
The only thing I haven't been able to figure out 100% is whether or not the adaptors can take the lowly USB2 480mbps speed and convert it into 4k. My brain says no way, but due to not finding any people that have used the more expensive adapters, I don't have an actual answer.
If any of this is wrong, let me know, it's only what I've been able to figure out on my own, and funny enough, it's actually more difficult to find than you'd think. Especially when you didn't know what you are starting off from.
Okay so I've found an 'in the meantime' solution that might suit some people. I haven't worked out all the kinks yet, but it does work.
You might have heard of Genymotion, well it's not that. Genymotion who produce Genymotion do a range of applications for android and one of them is called scrcpy.
If you look up 'genymotion scrcpy' the github link should be the first result.
A lot of people seem to dismiss it as not worth even using, I have no idea why, it's very easy to setup and use. It comes up quite often in XDA as well.
You install it on your PC, connect your phone, and then a mirror of your phone comes up on your desktop. It appears to be fully functional, I downloaded a game of the sorts that I play, and it worked despite the rending issues. I've also played some video that I recorded, no issues at all playing that.
I do have some rendering issues but I'm pretty sure that's an individual thing, I use MXLinux, and I know I have a java issue (as in personal setup, not MXLinux), the errors that are displayed in the terminal as it was running all relate to java.
I am still working through all of the possible solutions with the 'video out' converters and adapters, hopefully before too long, I'll be able to actually show you a working example, as I know that there aren't any out there at present, or not that I've seen anyway. And seeing it working is completely different to someone just saying that they have it working in a comment, with no offer of proof that they have.
I use an app called "vysor" on all my android phones. All you need to do is just download the pc app and follow instructions. Basically you just plug your phone to pc like you will transfer data or charge it. And usb debugging must be enabled. When you enable usb debugging and connect your phone to pc, Vysor will install latest android app and that is all. Sounds will come from the phone so i suggest you use a pair of speakers or earphones.
gsser said:
I use an app called "vysor" on all my android phones. All you need to do is just download the pc app and follow instructions. Basically you just plug your phone to pc like you will transfer data or charge it. And usb debugging must be enabled. When you enable usb debugging and connect your phone to pc, Vysor will install latest android app and that is all. Sounds will come from the phone so i suggest you use a pair of speakers or earphones.
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That's the same as MirrorLink used by cheap anything Java that advertises screen mirroring. Used it on a low end Linux machine via browser, lag and distortion, worse than screencast for me
Edit: the native Linux appimage worked well enough,but is limited to 1 Mbps and the full version is rather pricey 40USD. I'm the end,you still need a machine running, not just a single cable solution. Might be worth it for some, maybe try a month first to see how well it works for you
And vysor does not have input options from the machine to android, (MirrorLink does I think) so you'll need extra BT peripherals for input.
edit2: have to enable USB input emulation in Dev settings for KB/M to work. And a free alternative exists, its called "scrcpy", with identical functionality, no need for App on android. Vysor is just an overpriced GUI for a free app imho, probably targeted at Apple users
What about a USB to VGA cable? Will it work?
Guys, bad news?
This is not yet supported on Poco X3. But there was a problem when I updated the software on this device. My X3 immediately went dark after that, I was quite alarmed because this is my new phone when I won the competition to play stickman fighter with my friends. What should I do now?