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hey .
I have a problem with my battery .
it is very good battery while the phone is sleeping ,idle .
it spends about 6 hours or more without its percentage decrease
so when i go to sleep ,i first leave it with 23% Battery .
after 6 hours , i saw that its percentage still 23% and didn't change .
so i was so happy if this is true.
But here the problem .
when the phone is not idle and I'm working on it , Browsing or playing , play videos , listen to music or even using camera
what's happened ?
it goes hot , more hot , and i see the battery goes down (drain ) about 2% in 1 Min , so in 5 Min it drain about 10% and , it can drain from 70% to 30% in about 20 min .
so what is the problem ,
now i use my phone in the Necessities .
so i can not Satisfies for this performance anymore what i can do now ?
i use :
SPL : Death
Radio : .26i
Rom : CM 4.2.15.1
eramax said:
hey .
I have a problem with my battery .
it is very good battery while the phone is sleeping ,idle .
it spends about 6 hours or more without its percentage decrease
so when i go to sleep ,i first leave it with 23% Battery .
after 6 hours , i saw that its percentage still 23% and didn't change .
so i was so happy if this is true.
But here the problem .
when the phone is not idle and I'm working on it , Browsing or playing , play videos , listen to music or even using camera
what's happened ?
it goes hot , more hot , and i see the battery goes down (drain ) about 2% in 1 Min , so in 5 Min it drain about 10% and , it can drain from 70% to 30% in about 20 min .
so what is the problem ,
now i use my phone in the Necessities .
so i can not Satisfies for this performance anymore what i can do now ?
i use :
SPL : Death
Radio : .26i
Rom : CM 4.2.15.1
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well... there are several possiblities.
here are just a few at the top of my head...
How bright is your screen?
Bluetooth on?
Wi-Fi on?
GPS on?
How long is your screen active?
How much time do you spend on the phone?
Are you using 3G?
What is your CPU clocked at?
* How bright is your screen?
about 35%
* Bluetooth on?
No !
* Wi-Fi on?
No !
* GPS on?
No !
* How long is your screen active?
Screen timeout = 1 min , did u mean this point ?
* How much time do you spend on the phone?
as i said my statics , in first days when i got it ,i was working on it about 8 hours while usb charger (charging using my Computer via USB cable ).
i didn't use the electrical charger (without Computer ) before for charging.
but now i work too short time due to i hope to solve this problem and also to estimate the live time of my battery.
* Are you using 3G?
No . and also disable all APN , so now not connected to internet and also enable "Use only 2g networks " as well.
* What is your CPU clocked at?
to know this , i installed SetCPU and run it and without and edit , it shows to me that :
MAX : 528 MHZ
MIN : 245 MHZ
i will insert some of the sys info :
cpu implementer : 0x41
serial : 00000000000000 !!!
MemTotal : 97924 kb
MemFree : 1920 kb
Cached : 23984 kb
eramax said:
* How bright is your screen?
about 35%
* Bluetooth on?
No !
* Wi-Fi on?
No !
* GPS on?
No !
* How long is your screen active?
Screen timeout = 1 min , did u mean this point ?
* How much time do you spend on the phone?
as i said my statics , in first days when i got it ,i was working on it about 8 hours while usb charger (charging using my Computer via USB cable ).
i didn't use the electrical charger (without Computer ) before for charging.
but now i work too short time due to i hope to solve this problem and also to estimate the live time of my battery.
* Are you using 3G?
No . and also disable all APN , so now not connected to internet and also enable "Use only 2g networks " as well.
* What is your CPU clocked at?
to know this , i installed SetCPU and run it and without and edit , it shows to me that :
MAX : 528 MHZ
MIN : 245 MHZ
i will insert some of the sys info :
cpu implementer : 0x41
serial : 00000000000000 !!!
MemTotal : 97924 kb
MemFree : 1920 kb
Cached : 23984 kb
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If what your saying on all that is true then it should last the day.
My device will last me about 6 hours with everything on 100% (wifi, bluetooth, gps, 3g, on the phone for 2 hours, etc). If it sounds like something is wrong... then...
any suggests ?
does the rom or radio or even the spl is the reason ?
what about your phone when it is sleep (standby) ,is it drain as my phone , or my phone give me unbelievable values ?
what about your phone when working on it , is it goes hot or not ?
it goes for me hot if i run any thing such as a music and the hot depend on the type of app ,but games or even 3d games make it very hot quickly .
could the SD card be the reason,i use 8 GB Kingstone Class 4 SD.
or may be the reason is i use the computer to charge it ,not the charger .
i always use widgets to terminate every apps before leaving it ,to get long time without any battery drain .
thanks
Binary100100 said:
If what your saying on all that is true then it should last the day.
My device will last me about 6 hours with everything on 100% (wifi, bluetooth, gps, 3g, on the phone for 2 hours, etc). If it sounds like something is wrong... then...
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Or it could be the battery itself is just dying. After about a year of having mine, it would go from 100% to 20% in just two hours of sitting in my pocket. A new battery solved everything.
They really aren't that expensive, and personally, I like how much it bulked it up. It's kind of a retro feel, having a brick up to my face. (in appearance, not functionality, of course)
Or processor speed does not affect temp at all?
Also, what is the most suspect to raise temp of N1?
Heat generated by the cpu is proportional to frequency * voltage^4
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Okay, I assume cpu does affect the temp.
But is there any other source that affect the temp? Or is it only cpu?
3 things make the nexus get very hot.
charging it makes it get hot.
doing a lot of data transfer on 3g gets it hot. for example if you do a long period of web browsing over 3g for a long period of time, or transferring a large data file over 3g, or streaming something. all that gets my nexus hot (heheh).
or just running the cpu at 1ghz for a long time. like running a benchmark test over and over.
Thanks Roger, right now, I use my Portable Wi-Fi hotspot while charging for about 3 hours. And it gets hot up to 41.2 degree of Celsius. How about yours?
l1k3m1k3 said:
Thanks Roger, right now, I use my Portable Wi-Fi hotspot while charging for about 3 hours. And it gets hot up to 41.2 degree of Celsius. How about yours?
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I would be very careful of that 41C, its mildly high (nothing to be seriously worried about). I would advise using wifi when the battery is at 100% already to reduce heat from charging. If you are not yet on froyo, it can help with some heat issues. Creating a mifi can cause a lot of heat due to what is required to make a mifi, high data transfers through 3g WHILE high data transfers through the wifi card to create the mifi network.
Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
hadookee said:
Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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I honestly don't think anyone has been messing with the CPU until the CM ROM is released.
hadookee said:
Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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As far as I've seen, the Revo's CPU does automatically speed scale to the necessary load.
If you're running lots of apps in the background, with the screen on Android will keep the cpu at full throttle to provide a smooth experience for you.
As soon as you turn off the screen, it will throttle it down as much as it can.
If the phone's rebooting on you, that's because whatever cpu tuner is doing may be keeping the cpu speed too low for the demand of the OS, then the watchdog kicks in when it thinks the cpu is stuck in a loop. (watchdog wants to be petted every 30 seconds, if the cpu misses that, the watchdog reboots the phone)
I use setcpu and have no reboot issues.
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throttle
I use android system info to show the CPU speed. It shows the % of time my revolution is running at each speed. W/o using a 3rd party app it always shows 100% at 1Ghz. W CPU tuner running it shows 50% at 122Mhz, 25% at 1Ghz, and 25% in between.
I don't think I'm running any apps thats sucking up a lot of CPU. I'm rooted w most of bloat removed.
Am I the only one not seeing any CPU throttle on stock?
i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
Exactly Im much happier with my phone now. I had the same issue when I received a call but set up the profile as u did and have no problems at all
newkick said:
i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
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I am using setCPU as well with no issues. I have mine set were the screen is off it goes to 124 and clocks back up to full 1GHz when it is on. Helps greatly improve my battery.
So what settings do you use? I get really bad lag when waking my Revo. Sometimes it will reboot after waking too.
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I don't know if this is a CPU throttling issue, or a general REVO issue, but I get horrible horrible lag sometimes trying to get any programs to respond. Like press the home key, or click send, or anything like that. I'm running Decrap 1.1, I don't know if I have too many processes running or what.
Interesting. The Thunderbolt has the same issue. Is it the same CPU in that phone?
So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
Use black backgrounds and dark apps? Amoleds don't use power to display black. Whites will suck your battery dry.
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Recently i visited a samsung service centre. I asked the engineer as what kind of problems people have reported in the note other than screen issues and he said battery issues and people ve got their batteries replaced. Maybe u want to get urs checked.
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I would also suggest get your battery checked. But more than likely, Samsung will say 15-16 hours of moderate use is normal.
I am currently using Rocket ROM v20 with Abyss 3.5b. I have had it without charge for 12 hours now and from 100% it is at 82% right now. So far today I have watch an ep of anime (22mins long), gaming for 1.5 hours, had 4 phone calls (total of 42 mins). I think only draining 18% after all of that is impressive.
Z-Blade said:
I would also suggest get your battery checked. But more than likely, Samsung will say 15-16 hours of moderate use is normal.
I am currently using Rocket ROM v20 with Abyss 3.5b. I have had it without charge for 12 hours now and from 100% it is at 82% right now. So far today I have watch an ep of anime (22mins long), gaming for 1.5 hours, had 4 phone calls (total of 42 mins). I think only draining 18% after all of that is impressive.
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That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
I know roms/kernals/basebands all factor into battery usage as well, so are there any suggestions as to which one might be good with this? Aesthetically I love romow's rom. I love every layout of it. Rocket rom is a little too "in your face" kind of, atleast for me.
Im always set my brightness to 0% and im not using auto brightness. What if you change the kernel to FM 2.0 Kernel. i find it saves more batt than abyss kernel.
dr. xp55 said:
So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
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Time to get one of these: 4500mAh battery for Galaxy Note
Also try to use Go Launcher's task killer and low usage of 3G.
dr. xp55 said:
That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
I know roms/kernals/basebands all factor into battery usage as well, so are there any suggestions as to which one might be good with this? Aesthetically I love romow's rom. I love every layout of it. Rocket rom is a little too "in your face" kind of, atleast for me.
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I actually like the "in your face" look, of course that is my preference. I heard that checkrom is good for battery but in all honesty, I have tried a couple of roms and there isn't a huge difference between them. The biggest difference with battery usage I have notice is when you start using a OCing app with profiles like SetCPU. Tweak the power usage with each speed step and create profiles for when the screen is off, on call and etc.
dr. xp55 said:
So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
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How hot does it get compared to room temp? 15C warmer? 20C warmer?
I'd really love to work with some people to come up with a step by step guide on how to track down and fix battery drain / over heat problems.
The best way to waste power is to make heat with radio chip and GPU. Second best is to make light with torch or screen.
I know with the change in battery technology, some old practice no longer applies but I still follow the old rule of thumb when I get a new equipment.
When I got my Note, the very first thing I did was charge the phone for 12 hours before actually using it. You might want to give that a shot, the reading on the battery may not always be correct.
dr. xp55 said:
So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
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may i know which governor are you using? try to update the AbyssNote kernel to latest v3.5c and try either the AbyssPlug, lulzactive or SmartassV2 governor then see if there's any difference
Running stock LA4 ROM here. Brightness usually on lowest. If you don't touch the phone, it can last on standby a week. See below how it only lost 3% after 17 hours. Of course as the screen was off all the time, the internal processes take most of the power consumed.
After more than 1 day I still have 50% battery. See how it drops fast when I'm using the phone to read and download web pages.
I have the self same issue - battery hardly lasts a day - I just about manage to get home 8 hours later on critical - to hook it up to mains to charge.
All I use it during the course of the day - is browsing forums via tapatalk, viewing the occasional email. No hectic media consumption and music playing.
I am trying a different route now - it was running on stock firmware - over the weekend I've taken the following steps.
Rooted my device , installed CheckRom Revo v5 , running speedmod kernel with modem LA4
Hoping to see how that improves things.
dr. xp55 said:
That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
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First of all, you should post a screen shot of your battery graph.
How bright is your screen? If it's at 100%, then you're going to chew through battery very fast.
Games that require very high cpu usage will kill the battery.
Some games I can play forever on - some games, like Plants vs zombies, or puzzle quest 2, kill the battery. I can probably get 3-4 hours worth on a battery, and that's with a very low screen brightness. That's the price to pay with a fast cpu.
Dolphin is quite the battery hog too. I try to avoid it - I browse for hours with opera mobile, especially with the green on black mod.
- Frank
play_dead said:
may i know which governor are you using? try to update the AbyssNote kernel to latest v3.5c and try either the AbyssPlug, lulzactive or SmartassV2 governor then see if there's any difference
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I use the ondemand governor usually with overclocked to 1600. The only profile I have set is the temperature over-heat (temperature above 104 F, 40.3 C) and i've set it to conservative with max cpu to 1200. What should I set the screen off and in call frequency to be? I have just updated to AbyssNote 3.5 and changed the governor to AbyssPlug. Lets see how it pans out tm
My voltage settings are:
1704 MHz - 1375
1664 MHz - 1350
1600 MHz - 1325
1400 MHz - 1300
1200 MHz - 1250
1000 - 1125
800 - 1000
500 - 900
200 - 850
100 - 850
ChodTheWacko said:
First of all, you should post a screen shot of your battery graph.
How bright is your screen? If it's at 100%, then you're going to chew through battery very fast.
Games that require very high cpu usage will kill the battery.
Some games I can play forever on - some games, like Plants vs zombies, or puzzle quest 2, kill the battery. I can probably get 3-4 hours worth on a battery, and that's with a very low screen brightness. That's the price to pay with a fast cpu.
Dolphin is quite the battery hog too. I try to avoid it - I browse for hours with opera mobile, especially with the green on black mod.
- Frank
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Whats the best app for battery statistics? I will get the graph and post a screenshot tm. My brightness is usually 50 % set in the middle always. Today I put my brightness all the way down to 0, I literally did not use my phone, maybe turned it on couple times during the day for 2 min, sent 1 text, played a game for 5 min, and used a medical application for 10 min, just to check the battery. With that much minimal amount of phone usage, after about 9 hours my battery was at 79%. Is that normal?
Just wanted to say thanks for the help also
it should make a difference. for battery monitoring, I'm using Battery Monitor widget. you may give it a try.
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dr. xp55 said:
I use the ondemand governor usually with overclocked to 1600. The only profile I have set is the temperature over-heat (temperature above 104 F, 40.3 C) and i've set it to conservative with max cpu to 1200. What should I set the screen off and in call frequency to be? I have just updated to AbyssNote 3.5 and changed the governor to AbyssPlug. Lets see how it pans out tm
My voltage settings are:
1704 MHz - 1375
1664 MHz - 1350
1600 MHz - 1325
1400 MHz - 1300
1200 MHz - 1250
1000 - 1125
800 - 1000
500 - 900
200 - 850
100 - 850
Whats the best app for battery statistics? I will get the graph and post a screenshot tm. My brightness is usually 50 % set in the middle always. Today I put my brightness all the way down to 0, I literally did not use my phone, maybe turned it on couple times during the day for 2 min, sent 1 text, played a game for 5 min, and used a medical application for 10 min, just to check the battery. With that much minimal amount of phone usage, after about 9 hours my battery was at 79%. Is that normal?
Just wanted to say thanks for the help also
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Install better battery stats and check for kernel wakelocks. If there exists some that last longer than 10 mins then some app is involved in the battery leak
hi
What is the normal device temperature that you see.. I m not talking abt the battery temperature.. I am talking about the device temperature ...
I am checking the device temperature using the cpu temp app
The normal temperature that I noticed when I got up in the morning was 32c
It is with wifi ON and brightness set to auto and normal 2g
after some minor use the temp now is 40-45c
If I do a 4k recording for 2 minutes.. It becomes really hot and temp goes to 70c
If I play a game the temp goes to 55-60c
While running antutu benchmark it restartEd once... He temp was around 65 for some time
while charging the temp is around 50c?
The device screen really feels hot , even more then the leather back
So are these things normal?
Or is this some hardware problems
I have already checked the battery stats and don't see anything unusual hogging the battery
I have not installed any apps.. Just the ones for speedtest, antutu, cup temp etc
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Anyone... Any replies... At least the average device temperature
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Ran antuntu and it capped at about 62C. Chill and uninstall the temp apps and use your phone normally.
thanks for the reply.. also can you check the temp while shooting at 4K for couple of minutes?
There is no such normal device temp. The device temp depends on the battery temp. If its between 10-15° c above the battery temp. Then its pretty normal in running conditions ... If the battery temperature rises then automatically the device temp will rise ... In most of the devices its between 40-45°c .. The normal device temp. And 1 more thing the device temp also depends on the type of ui u r using
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You just said there is no normal, but the normal is 40-45°. It also depends on the temperature of your surroundings. I love in southern California and have to mount my phone in front of my air conditioning because our summers were up to 44c this year. I once had my Nexus 5 shut off from heat when it wasn't in front of the air.
Anyways. You're fine buddy, processors throttle at a certain temp and also shut down automatically around 75-80C.