I already own a note 8 but the v30 is a very beautifull device. Even more than the note 8. Looks to be much more comfortable to use. Not sure about software since i never owned a lg phone. Would u even consider giving up ur note 8 for the lg v30.
I would not consider giving up my Note 8 for the V30. However it's a very subjective question. The V30 may be more suitable for those that want something a little smaller. I had the V20 a few months back and enjoyed that device.
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Only if the V30 comes with an S-pen.
For me, it's always 3 priorities... Screen, camera, battery.
I had a good play with the v30. Beautiful, but the screen in the Samsung is simply better IMHO. it just pops.
Camera.. I love the bokeh effect. Can't do that on the v30 (unless omeone gets the pixel 2 camera to work on it). And I have had nothing but excellent results on the note 8 so far. I do think the Mate 9 did bokeh best though.
Battery. Tough one. It's basically not good on the note. They never are.
Actually I can't wait to see the Mate 10. Much bigger battery, comparable screen and hopefully better night capability than mate 9.
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For me, it's always 3 priorities... Screen, camera, battery.
I had a good play with the v30. Beautiful, but the screen in the Samsung is simply better IMHO. it just pops.
Camera.. I love the bokeh effect. Can't do that on the v30 (unless omeone gets the pixel 2 camera to work on it). And I have had nothing but excellent results on the note 8 so far. I do think the Mate 9 did bokeh best though.
Battery. Tough one. It's basically not good on the note. They never are.
Actually I can't wait to see the Mate 10. Much bigger battery, comparable screen and hopefully better night capability than mate 9.
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Oh yes, one other thing. I think Samsung nailed their software this year. First time i have EVER stuck with TouchWiz. And the email and calendar apps are great. LG software still looks worse IMHO.
I had the V20 and it was nothing to write home about. LGs phones always have hype and then when you get one it's just ....ok. If you think the V30 looks better than the Note 8 you need to see a doctor. I have had the LG Gpro the G4 and the V20 I was disappointed in all of them. LG is not on par with Samsung at all. This is coming from experience. The V30 might compare to the S8+ but not the Note 8 stop smoking.
Speaking about the hardware, the V30 is generally more comfortable to use size and weight-wise. It has better battery life and DACs.
Is it a better phone than the Note 8 technologically speaking? No.
If I already owned a Note 8 would I move to V30 believing it to be the all around better phone? No.
I do think that the V30 is a great phone and wins in the particular categories mentioned above (ignoring the S Pen for comparison sake). If you want something smaller the V30 isn't a bad choice at all.
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Speaking about the hardware, the V30 is generally more comfortable to use size and weight-wise. It has better battery life and DACs.
Is it a better phone than the Note 8 technologically speaking? No.
If I already owned a Note 8 would I move to V30 believing it to be the all around better phone? No.
I do think that the V30 is a great phone and wins in the particular categories mentioned above (ignoring the S Pen for comparison sake). If you want something smaller the V30 isn't a bad choice at all.
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I might get it tomorrow on tuesday. I still have a week to.be able to return the note. I love the note hardware and smoothness but the size is to tall. Spen i dont use but i do love what samsung has done with touchwiz and the ecosystem. Will try both and see which one i keep.
This is the same thing people were saying about the V10 and the V20 and both were disappointing. What makes y'all think the V30 is going to be any different. My V20s battery life sucked! I was lucky to get 3 hrs of OST.
Im not the type of person who needs to buy every new toy I see, so no.
I'll have my note 8 probably until the note 10, longer than that if the note 8 is still performing and nothing else impresses me.
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This is the same thing people were saying about the V10 and the V20 and both were disappointing. What makes y'all think the V30 is going to be any different. My V20s battery life sucked! I was lucky to get 3 hrs of OST.
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People are getting 6-7+ SOT battery. It does have better battery than the note 8. Our note 8 is better but v30 is an awesome phoelne from What i read and the minute i got to olay around with it.
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People are getting 6-7+ SOT battery. It does have better battery than the note 8. Our note 8 is better but v30 is an awesome phoelne from What i read and the minute i got to olay around with it.
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I get that with the Note8 everyday.
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Also the V30 has that same design like the S8+ with them wide corners. I am not a fan of that look.
The Note 8 is exactly what it says in the title. The main point of the Note is the S-pen with upgraded RAM. I see the Note 8 as more akin to a micro pocket PC with the S-pen as the mouse. :good:
The LG V30 is geared toward the video taker and music enthusiast. :good:
Trying to compare apples and oranges again ad nauseam.
By definition the 'standard' S8 is the direct comparison to the LG V 30 IF one insists on comparing.
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I already own a note 8 but the v30 is a very beautifull device. Even more than the note 8. Looks to be much more comfortable to use. Not sure about software since i never owned a lg phone. Would u even consider giving up ur note 8 for the lg v30.
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Does the V30 have a wider screen?
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Im not the type of person who needs to buy every new toy I see, so no.
I'll have my note 8 probably until the note 10, longer than that if the note 8 is still performing and nothing else impresses me.
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That's what I think this partly is (No disrespect to the OP). And while the V30 is a flagship phone that is more manageable in hand, I don't think it should be a direct comparison as others have mentioned (even taking away the S Pen). Still, the note 8 is the benchmark for all android phones to be compared to, whether they deserve it or not. That speaks to the high quality and regard the Note 8 is held.
Unless a person found the Note 8 too unwieldy, I don't see why you would move to the V30.
Why not get both and dual wield? If the op thinks note 8 is too long, then the op will love the v30 feel in hand. I find both camera useful . maybe next year we ll get wide angle and zoom? I have a love towards big and powerful phone, so I'll never give up the note 8. Samsung, had to pry the note 7 from me . Lg finally caught up to Samsung build quality with the v30. The v30 is what the g6 should have been and directly compete with the s8-s8+. V30 ahould have 6gb ram, 128gb memory, 6.2 screen to really compete with the note 8.
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There seems to be a lot of hype from tech sites and bloggers about the V30. But I strongly believe it's all about bashing Samsung. There's a human trait to want to knock down a peg or two, any person (or in this case, company) that appears to be popular.
Along comes LG (with let's face it, a decent phone that ticks many boxes), so an ideal opportunity to give it hefty praise when pitting it against a rival like the Note 8. The anti-Samsung lobby seize the opportunity to troll the comments sections on reviews and YouTube channels.
But ultimately I believe the Note 8 has the better overall specs and the screen... is pure perfection.
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Also the V30 has that same design like the S8+ with them wide corners. I am not a fan of that look.
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Sure u do lol. U might get ALMOST 6 or 6hrs. Using a few battery saving tweaks like "location on battery saving mode" ur previous posted and battery SOT screenshot dont lie. But hey. Note 8 does have great battery. Lg v30 seems to beat it out in all battery test. Not really enough to make a huge different
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That's what I think this partly is (No disrespect to the OP). And while the V30 is a flagship phone that is more manageable in hand, I don't think it should be a direct comparison as others have mentioned (even taking away the S Pen). Still, the note 8 is the benchmark for all android phones to be compared to, whether they deserve it or not. That speaks to the high quality and regard the Note 8 is held.
Unless a person found the Note 8 too unwieldy, I don't see why you would move to the V30.
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Like i said before. Im looking for a long term phone not the new shinny phone that is release. Reason for the question is that i own the note 8 but still on 8 days to be able to return and get the v30. The note 8 is better. But v30 have alot going on, better design more comfortable smaller design. Non curve screen. Face to unlock with screen off. Hifi dac, etc. Much cheaper. To me wide angle and hifi dac are more usefull than s pen and telefoto. Again. Personal opinion base on my everyday use
First LG V30 needs to be available worldwide then I can at least consider it. Happy Note 8 customer here
The only consideration for a V30 vs. N8 that I have entertained as a T-Mobile customer is the 600MHz support the V30 offers. But then again the deployment in that spectrum won't be completed until 2019. As others have posted, they had to pry the N7 from my hands twice last year. And only then I had to go the V20 route. While I enjoyed using it for the most part, there were weird slowdowns, glitches, screen banding, especially towards the end of a year's usage. From all online reviews I see so far, the V30 UI is similar to the V20's, which does not feel spectacular compared to the N8. There's more refinement and forward thinking in Samsung's offering, and the little details are appreciated in long term use. Yes, the V30s DAC and wide angle camera are perhaps the only overall higher points of that phone. But when I had the V20, that offered those similar enhancements, I rarely if ever used them.
There's a few good videos stating that the V30s screen though better that anything else LG has used to date, still has weird banding, or not bright enough (600 Nits vs. 1000).
At the end of the day, you're staring at the screen all the time, and all these phones are all screen now.
The N8 has the best screen in 2017, bar none (iPhone X and pixel 2XLs included).
You may want to hold on to your supersized screen monster...
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I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
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i went from an S7 to the OnePlus3 and im extremely happy with my decision.
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Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
Cause.
#neversettle
Better deal/performance? Too single out post is hardly proof of dodgy postings generally?
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Because
1. lack of soc sources.
2. lower price and if not same even better performance.
3. and more then 1080p is overkill
4. faster charging.
I would do the same.
And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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well then let me clarify.
didnt sell it, gave it to my wife, so it's still around. i love the S7. my S7 was the dual sim version. i couldn't stand the 2g on the 2nd sim. when i saw that the OP3 had dual sim capabilities, with 3g on one and lte on the other, i made the jump.
so, my ovations arent baseless.
ROOTDOT said:
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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like i said on that same thread.... S7 and S7e have better hardware (camera, wireless fast charging, QC3.0, QHD screen, etc) but the software sucks (which affects performance). Dev scene is also terrible.
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And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
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did this myself a few years ago, when I got the OnePlus One + a Sony RX100 on sale which in total was still less than a 64GB Samsung Flagship
SW after-processing (ie, HDR) and better sensors make a big difference, but you're still never going to replicate the performance of a REAL quality camera, even if it's a point and shoot.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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Can't comment on above case, but some of us feel uneasy having so much money invested in a phone when a very close competitor is half the price. In my case my contract was up for renewal got a HTC 10, ebayed it for £450 bought a OnePlus3 pocketed over £100.
And Touchwiz.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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I literally just did exactly this. I actually still have the S7, but just threw it up on craigslist this morning. For me, I found the S7's performance and battery life to be extremely subpar. When I first got it the phone was lightning fast, but over time EVERY part of the user experience developed lag. Factory resets did nothing, deleting apps did nothing. Maybe I got a lemon, but it was terrible by the end. By contrast, the OP3 is very fast and battery life seems to be about on par. The faster charging is nice.
I will say though, the screen and camera are far superior on the S7. It's not even close. But I shoot professionally with my DSLR, so a phone's camera is of little consequence to me. And while it's not as good, the OP3 1080P screen is beyond acceptable. Also, the benefit of running stock android cannot be overstated. It is a world better than the Samsung skinned variant.
All feature differences aside. I bought both phones on craigslist over the last few months. S7 was $450, OP3 was $300. I've already gotten offers on my S7 for $400 with it being up only a few hours. I'll gladly pocket the $100+ difference and live with the OP3, for now.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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As far as I remember I never created a thread to tell other forum members my product was better than theirs. This thread is kinda funny, isn't it? I would never buy a Samsung device like I would never buy any Apple products. For me the OnePlus 3 is the best available phone. It's modding- and community-friendly and comes with a powerfull hardware at a fair price. I'm not willed to pay for company's million-dollar marketing campaigns.
i used a galaxy s7 edge extensively and its the best camera phone out there. but when it comes to the whole package its sucks ball. to me the build quality is zero its pathetic, cant find a single protector here where i live that wont come off after 2 days. phone is unusable without something on the back. coz its silpery as hell. the worst part is the software. touchwiz is the worst skin ever in the history of android. these reviewer who say the new touchwiz is fast and responsive. r not using the fone as daily drivers. its lag fest for me. also the clicking home button sounds like it will break any sec.
the only reason i bought the one plus 3 was the performance. i m getting that too its not perfect but its million times better then what samsung galaxy s7 edge offered to me. i payed over 530 dollers here to buy a oneplus 3. and i m happy about my purchase.
thanks
death to all glass back phones,p
Happy OnePlus devices user for 27 months, spreading around the word that you can only spend 399 for a great phone!!
I actually think more people and reviewers get payed by Samsung or Apple to praise their overpriced junk.
Maybe topicstarter got paid to stir the pot in the OnePlus section to praise the Samsung products..
everyone is saying that s7 edge is better, i dont know why and how, but i can take better photos with my OP3... i tried many times but my OP3 take better photos than my brother's S7e. just video recording is much better on S7e...
the performance is better. the software support is better. the selfie camera is better. the charging speed is faster. the price is lower... So OP3 > S7E
I actually moved from the s7 edge to the op3, only the camera's quality* speed and sound is better than the op3.
*most of the time
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I sold my LG G5 and bought Oneplus 3.
The Lg was lacking developement and support so badly. And I haven't regret my decicion at all!
Only thing I miss is the sdcard.
Since it seems perfectly clear that some people are more than willing to swap an S7 for a OP3, can we close this thread? It's nothing but a witch hunt where one doesn't need to exist.
I have both S7E destroys it in pretty much every department but fast charging, Since OP3 battery life sucks you need it haha :laugh:
Everything else > this thread. Coming from the Nexus 6 here. I have to say that the OP3 is a solid phone for the price. You can't really get much more for the same price. 6gb ram, 64 gb storage, dual sim, extremely fast charging. Yeah the battery life could be better, and the sim tray could be a hybrid type tray for microsd cards like the Axon, the screen could be a higher res. Other than that its a great phone. It has solid specs, and an unlockable bootloader, two things that make a device highly favored by XDA goers.
If someone wants to buy me another phone to put it to the test I'd be happy to take them up on the offer (;
nothing good can come from this thread.
Thread closed.
Has there been any info on if the new chipset is more efficient than the S8 Plus for battery? With a larger screen and s-pen I don't want to end up scrambling to find a charger by the afternoon.
I'd love to know this too! This is really my only concern with this phone.
seoulbrova said:
Has there been any info on if the new chipset is more efficient than the S8 Plus for battery? With a larger screen and s-pen I don't want to end up scrambling to find a charger by the afternoon.
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New chipset?
What are you talking about lol?
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From the reports I have read the Note 8's SOC will be slightly less than that of the SGS8+. If you study the specs there is no way around this. Apart from the price the slightly smaller battery could be the Achilles tendon of this mobile. Only time will tell.
When one looks at the schematics of the Note 8 there is no way Samsung could have done better. Its the space the S-pen takes up that causes the slightly smaller battery.
Having written the above I have been fighting for either larger batteries or new battery technology for years on all these high end Uber flagship mobiles. To some degree they all peeve me as they come with all the bells and whistles then add software and suggest we use said software to downgrade the performance to that of a middle of the range phone or have an SOC time of a few hours? The whole situation from all brands is rather absurd?
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
From the reports I have read the Note 8's SOC will be slightly less than that of the SGS8+. If you study the specs there is no way around this. Apart from the price the slightly smaller battery could be the Achilles tendon of this mobile. Only time will tell.
When one looks at the schematics of the Note 8 there is no way Samsung could have done better. Its the space the S-pen takes up that causes the slightly smaller battery.
Having written the above I have been fighting for either larger batteries or new battery technology for years on all these high end Uber flagship mobiles. To some degree they all peeve me as they come with all the bells and whistles then add software and suggest we use said software to downgrade the performance to that of a middle of the range phone or have an SOC time of a few hours? The whole situation from all brands is rather absurd?
Ryland
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Like how the sammy C9 pro has a 4000 mah battery and is a mid ranger....and costs like $450 lol.
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I love the battery life on the S8+ so if the Note 8 comes close then I am a happy camper. Though I expect to lose half an hour at least.
My previous was an s8+, and the note is close, or event better:
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This result from a very first day, captured from this video. It's not impress at all with me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cg70vOgSAs
6.5 hrs looks solid
How does it compare to S7 Edge?
I had S6+ and hated the battery on it. It was real bad.
Then I got S7 Edge and it can actually make it through work with about 20-30% battery left.
Not sure if anyone saw yet, but DJ Koh (Chief of Samsung Mobile) said in a statement in The Investor that the battery is smaller because of the new 10nm processor that is supposed to be 30% more power efficient...but who knows if that is the real case...we will have to wait and see.
Latest test of Note 8 battery life, news is good
I thought that the chipset in the Note 8 was the same as what was used in the S8+. With a smaller battery, how could it possibly have better battery life than the S8+?
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I thought that the chipset in the Note 8 was the same as what was used in the S8+. With a smaller battery, how could it possibly have better battery life than the S8+?
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It is the same lol. I dont know why people are saying otherwise
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usmaak said:
I thought that the chipset in the Note 8 was the same as what was used in the S8+. With a smaller battery, how could it possibly have better battery life than the S8+?
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Speculation is greater RAM and better optimised OS give the Note8 an advantage
More ram uses slightly more power on the hardware size but can save it on the software side if apps are suspended in memory rather than being restarted from scratch. At this point there are quite a few reviews, hands-on, etc that show about 4 hours or a little better screen on time. These are people with new phones doing a lot of fiddling so I'd expect that goes up slightly once the new phone fiddle factor is out of the picture. This is enough for me although I'd of been happier with more.
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More ram uses slightly more power on the hardware size but can save it on the software side if apps are suspended in memory rather than being restarted from scratch. At this point there are quite a few reviews, hands-on, etc that show about 4 hours or a little better screen on time. These are people with new phones doing a lot of fiddling so I'd expect that goes up slightly once the new phone fiddle factor is out of the picture. This is enough for me although I'd of been happier with more.
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One YouTube reviewer is getting over 6 hours sot. My Nite FE is better than my original Note 7 so i think Samsung have made the OS more battery friendly.
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It is the same lol. I dont know why people are saying otherwise
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Lol hahaha.. Like you say its the same.. Its fact
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One YouTube reviewer is getting over 6 hours sot. My Nite FE is better than my original Note 7 so i think Samsung have made the OS more battery friendly.
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Then he goes on to show two more days both of which are 4 hours of actual use and then explains the 6 was with video looped to run down the battery...
Its absurd that the note series are 'power' devices yet they fit a smaller battery than the S8+!
Covering their arses or what?! This doesn't attract me, having Samsung skimp and play it uber safe for their own gratification. Other phones (including theirs) have larger capacities and are far cheaper. A bigger battery showing they have confidence in their products would not have been rocket science - and would have been what we, its 'power' users expect.
So what they made an error in the note 7 - the note 8 should have been the beast that it just isn't.
Long story short, my classic Nexus 6P has been dying for a few months, battery drains, random reboots, super low volume on speakers. I have wiped the phone tried different ROM's and back to stock, still same thing. Don't get me started on the Pixel 2 XL for almost $1,000. It's really a Nexus 8P that should be selling for $599, but since it's a "Pixel" they wanna charge us more now. No thank you.
I'm on T-Mobile
I picked up the LG V30 last week, and it is a great phone, but no root ( I knew that going in ) And zero good themes ( no offense ) On my Nexus 6P I ran the Swift Dark theme for years, and got so used to it and fell in love with it, it's hard going on the V30 without that theme, and the themes available are basic and don't do Google apps, or notifications, etc... I know Samsung has a way deeper theming system, and just tons of themes available. And most important Substratum is active for the S8 / Note 8, which is a BIG DEAL.
Is the SD835 Note8 as smooth and lag free as the V30 ? I hear that Lagwiz is still evident on the 2017 Galaxy phones ? Would a Note 8 be better than the V30 ? I want the same great battery life as the V30, and I need deep dark themes system wide applied to everything.
How about package disablers ? I did that with my V30 and it made a huge difference in battery life, and stopping bloatware and unwanted apps from running in the background.
Thanks, and looking forward to the responses.
The Note 8 is not lag free, there are stutters from time to time. The only stutter free Android phones I've seen are the Pixels.
It's not too bad though.
You can disable blotware with BK disabler, I think that works well.
There is a special Samsung version of Swift Black!
I would imagine the v30 and note 8 are the same when it comes to lag, it barely happens for me so it's not an issue or factor. Touchwiz has a bad rep but it hasn't been heavy since the S7 days, but I'm Samsung takes the Cake second to only the pixel which I'm sure you know has a crap screen just like the v30.
I have not noticed lags, scrolling is smooth, only complaint is that autorotation is a little bit slow, but nothing real annoying, the camera is superfast! From pocket to shoot in 3 seconds! Iove my note 8
Way better experience on note 8 vs s8 family. Totally lag free for me, best Android phone I've ever used hands down.
You may not be happy about how well... or not... swift dark or any substratum theme works on the Note 8.
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You may not be happy about how well... or not... swift dark or any substratum theme works on the Note 8.
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I use both of these and they work fine on my Note8
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It's not even a fair comparison between the V 30 in the Note 8 the Note 8 is a far superior device. Now you could probably compare the v30 to the S8 Plus.
It's a laugh and anyone telling you otherwise might be coming from laggy-er phone.
Coming from mate 9 and forgot what lag was and got use to amazing battery life.
But wouldn't trade this phone in for the pixel, v30, mate 10(maybe), oneplus, essential, etc.
I believe the best overall phone out so far. It has everything plus all the bells and whistles. Things I thought I never needed I use. And I actually love Bixby. Don't understand the hate.
So i have used both extensively and I can say the note 8 wins hands down. The ONLY place that the v30 beats out the note is in cell signal quality. The note 8 doesn't work as well at cell edge as the v30. Other than that the v30 is inferior in every way.
The extra 2gb of ram makes a gigantic difference. Maybe not in an individual apps speed, but as you jump from app to app, having to not wait for apps to reload because there wasn't enough room to keep them in memory makes the note seem much faster.
As for the cameras, the front camera on the v30 is atrocious. No matter how you slice it. The rear cameras on the note v30 can be good if you want to **** around with manual settings every time you take a picture. On auto mode, they're really not good. I also don't like the wide angle as much as the zoom lens on the note (I get that this is a personal preference). Also the v30 OIS is really not good, and only on the main lens not both like the note.
The screen on the note is substantially better than the v30 in colors, clarity and brightness.
Samsungs multitasking implementation is much better than LGs, especially if you like to use it to have a video at the top and another app at the bottom.
I guess one other way the v30 wins is in the fingerprint reader. I've never had a phone with as good of a finger print reader as the v30, but I use trusted devices with my gear s3 so I don't end up using the reader all that often anyway.
In closing, I bought both the note and the v30 at full retail so I went all in on both of them. The v30 has been sold and I typed this entire thing on my note. Get the note. Good luck!
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Based on some fairly reliable sources we're getting a clearer picture of changes planned for the S22 Ultra. It's morphing into a Note like offering with a dedicated S-Pen slot and a more squared body. Samsung won't be releasing a Note 21 and why should they? Display and battery size are reduced, cameras have some minor upgrades and possibly vapor cooling. The other noticeable difference is the Exynos SoC which will pair with AMD for superior graphics processing even though benchmarks are comparable to the Snapdragon 888. It's still a wait and see since the rollout is anticipated in January or February 2022 but if these projections prove accurate I'll pass on S22. Not a fan of S-Pen or the boxed styling and beyond these there isn't enough game changing innovation to consider making a change.
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That display looks horrible... bad artist or bad Samsung?
Meh just bought a second new N10+ running Q.
It's color rendering exceeds some of the newer displays and is a proven workhorse that's fun to use.
Android R and above are rotten Apples
Samsung's track record since the 10+ has been subpar. I'll likely wait 2 or more years before switching platforms.
I don't have the patience for Android's and Samsung's bs. Too late, too slow and the wrong moves, you lose.
Meanwhile I'm quit happy with my little 10+ family. Lol, I'm still exploring them. My oldest 10+ is 2 years old, has had 1 replacement battery, looks and runs like it's new. It's OS load is almost 1.5 years old, still running fast and stable with minimal maintenance.
I don't use the spen a lot but it nests away painlessly when not in use. The bt remote shutter release and Smart Select are excellent when you need them.
So yeah, I like the spen.
There are still a few new unlocked Note 10+'s 256gb/12gb ram Snapdragon/Q variants out there. Grab one up if you want one... they be sweet.
No upgrade for me, the S21 Ultra is very similar to my S20 Ultra, not worth the upgrade IMHO. That rendering looks hideous, and the specs being mentioned so far are not worth an upgrade.
blackhawk said:
That display looks horrible... bad artist or bad Samsung?
Meh just bought a second new N10+ running Q.
It's color rendering exceeds some of the newer displays and is a proven workhorse that's fun to use.
Android R and above are rotten Apples
Samsung's track record since the 10+ has been subpar. I'll likely wait 2 or more years before switching platforms.
I don't have the patience for Android's and Samsung's bs. Too late, too slow and the wrong moves, you lose.
Meanwhile I'm quit happy with my little 10+ family. Lol, I'm still exploring them. My oldest 10+ is 2 years old, has had 1 replacement battery, looks and runs like it's new. It's OS load is almost 1.5 years old, still running fast and stable with minimal maintenance.
I don't use the spen a lot but it nests away painlessly when not in use. The bt remote shutter release and Smart Select are excellent when you need them.
So yeah, I like the spen.
There are still a few new unlocked Note 10+'s 256gb/12gb ram Snapdragon/Q variants out there. Grab one up if you want one... they be sweet.
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You had to replace the battery after 2 years? What happened, did you use it to jump start your car?
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You had to replace the battery after 2 years? What happened, did you use it to jump start your car?
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1.5 years This phone gets heavy usage. Next one may replaced sooner to avoid another failure. I was lucky the display wasn't damaged.
Battery replacement is fairly easy.
Otherwise nothing failed or broke. Display looks as good as the new one and both are perfect.
No complaints on the 10+.
Not this time. I don't think phones are making that big a leap now with regards to upgrading. I did from the s20+ to the s21 ultra and to be honest whilst the ultras great I really don't need better
Battery reduced?
But not to worry we've given you a faster charger.
blackhawk said:
That display looks horrible... bad artist or bad Samsung?
Meh just bought a second new N10+ running Q.
It's color rendering exceeds some of the newer displays and is a proven workhorse that's fun to use.
Android R and above are rotten Apples
Samsung's track record since the 10+ has been subpar. I'll likely wait 2 or more years before switching platforms.
I don't have the patience for Android's and Samsung's bs. Too late, too slow and the wrong moves, you lose.
Meanwhile I'm quit happy with my little 10+ family. Lol, I'm still exploring them. My oldest 10+ is 2 years old, has had 1 replacement battery, looks and runs like it's new. It's OS load is almost 1.5 years old, still running fast and stable with minimal maintenance.
I don't use the spen a lot but it nests away painlessly when not in use. The bt remote shutter release and Smart Select are excellent when you need them.
So yeah, I like the spen.
There are still a few new unlocked Note 10+'s 256gb/12gb ram Snapdragon/Q variants out there. Grab one up if you want one... they be sweet.
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Yeah I'm already dual OS device . Meaning use Android and iOS .
I get a free upgrade each year so why not get a new battery (and phone)
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Based on some fairly reliable sources we're getting a clearer picture of changes planned for the S22 Ultra. It's morphing into a Note like offering with a dedicated S-Pen slot and a more squared body. Samsung won't be releasing a Note 21 and why should they? Display and battery size are reduced, cameras have some minor upgrades and possibly vapor cooling. The other noticeable difference is the Exynos SoC which will pair with AMD for superior graphics processing even though benchmarks are comparable to the Snapdragon 888. It's still a wait and see since the rollout is anticipated in January or February 2022 but if these projections prove accurate I'll pass on S22. Not a fan of S-Pen or the boxed styling and beyond these there isn't enough game changing innovation to consider making a change.
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Update - Charging speed for all models stays at 25W. Here's my take, unless you trade-in your device or accept a long term contract with a service provider you'll drop a significant bundle of $$$ to "upgrade" for a device which in many aspects isn't any better than the S21. I will definitely pass on the S22 and if Samsung doesn't get it's act together I'll downgrade to a much better value in the A72 or S22 FE. So you'll lose a more powerful chipset and some camera options but for about half the price you'll get most of the bells and whistles plus the MicroSD and 3.5 Jack. I really question the VALUE aspect in not only the S22 but the Fold 3 as well, it just doesn't stack up.
I'm on the otherside with the S-pen, I was on the fence going from the S20u to S21u, and after doing a camera review for youtube, I was debating returning it because it's essentially the identical phone with the reduction of microSD, but the though of using an S-pen gets rid of many note books I have laying around.
Now, to date, I still haven't purchased the S-pen because I got the silver phone and the only case they offered with the S-pen was black and covers the entire camera area, which defeats the purpose of getting the silver phone when the entire thing ends up being black anyway.
They now have aftermarket S-pen cases and one of which is clear so I can still visibly see the silver phone. It's been in my Amazon cart for awhile now but the renders of this S22 with the S-pen integrated are stopping me from hitting the checkout button when I could just wait it out and it's included with the phone lol
I was just going to buy the S-pen Pro but after seeing the price tag on that thing, I'll stick to a hoard of notebooks and pens. I take a lot of notes, and I'm going to assume that over the last 10 years, I haven't spent as much on notebooks and pens as the price of that stupid S-pen Pro.. it's.. literally insane lol
varcor said:
Based on some fairly reliable sources we're getting a clearer picture of changes planned for the S22 Ultra. It's morphing into a Note like offering with a dedicated S-Pen slot and a more squared body. Samsung won't be releasing a Note 21 and why should they? Display and battery size are reduced, cameras have some minor upgrades and possibly vapor cooling. The other noticeable difference is the Exynos SoC which will pair with AMD for superior graphics processing even though benchmarks are comparable to the Snapdragon 888. It's still a wait and see since the rollout is anticipated in January or February 2022 but if these projections prove accurate I'll pass on S22. Not a fan of S-Pen or the boxed styling and beyond these there isn't enough game changing innovation to consider making a change.
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Im Not sure if there are enough reasona to upgrade. But i love the boxy note Design... Had the note 20 ultra and it was beautyful, shame that Samsung had the ****ty exynos... I returned it. But i think battery will be smaller than s21 ultra...
I'll be upgrading to a different device. And I can't wait! My S21U has been quite a let down as it has always had some odd issues that seem to be software based... But since those issues also occur after a full device wipe and Android reinstallation, I'm starting to assume that there were a bunch of manufacturing issues with this phone... And with the Samsung devices I have bought in the past, I've always gotten unlucky. Goodbye, folks
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I'm on the otherside with the S-pen, I was on the fence going from the S20u to S21u, and after doing a camera review for youtube, I was debating returning it because it's essentially the identical phone with the reduction of microSD, but the though of using an S-pen gets rid of many note books I have laying around.
Now, to date, I still haven't purchased the S-pen because I got the silver phone and the only case they offered with the S-pen was black and covers the entire camera area, which defeats the purpose of getting the silver phone when the entire thing ends up being black anyway.
They now have aftermarket S-pen cases and one of which is clear so I can still visibly see the silver phone. It's been in my Amazon cart for awhile now but the renders of this S22 with the S-pen integrated are stopping me from hitting the checkout button when I could just wait it out and it's included with the phone lol
I was just going to buy the S-pen Pro but after seeing the price tag on that thing, I'll stick to a hoard of notebooks and pens. I take a lot of notes, and I'm going to assume that over the last 10 years, I haven't spent as much on notebooks and pens as the price of that stupid S-pen Pro.. it's.. literally insane lol
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I saw that, the spen pro.
Samsung at their half baked finest
Meh, the N10+ blows it away with a completely self contained, fully functional spen.
I bought my 2nd new N10+ 2 weeks ago. No regrets... these buggers look gorgeous and run great. Running on P and Q; there will be no downgrade to R for me.
I use the spen mostly as a remote shutter release and for Smart Capture. Otherwise it hides safely out of sight.
Both Android and Samsung have lost their way... really badly, but like a drunk lost in the desert they have high hopes.
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Im Not sure if there are enough reasona to upgrade. But i love the boxy note Design... Had the note 20 ultra and it was beautyful, shame that Samsung had the ****ty exynos... I returned it. But i think battery will be smaller than s21 ultra...
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The N10+/256/12gb,Pie or Q/Snapdragon rocks. If you don't care about rooting box sealed new ones are still available for $800. Got my 2nd one 2 weeks ago, pristine perfect. Runs great maybe even better than my Pie variant.
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The N10+/256/12gb,Pie or Q/Snapdragon rocks. If you don't care about rooting box sealed new ones are still available for $800. Got my 2nd one 2 weeks ago, pristine perfect. Runs great maybe even better than my Pie variant.
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I was also looking forward to note 10+ / note 20 ultra snapdragon but in germany we can only import it and then no warranty :/
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I was also looking forward to note 10+ / note 20 ultra snapdragon but in germany we can only import it and then no warranty :/
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New ones are very hard to find now even stateside.
A lot of scams going on now too; be careful.
As for warranty I wouldn't be too concerned as the 10+'s tend to be very reliable with an excellent build, they are rocks. Just test the hell out of it including a ScreenTest. It should do fine.
PM if you want that stateside dealer. It's the US unlocked variant running on Q. Unless you want to root it's the more desirable variant; all the Snapdragon variants use the vapor/copper heat sink, none have the graphene one.
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New ones are very hard to find now even stateside.
A lot of scams going on now too; be careful.
As for warranty I wouldn't be too concerned as the 10+'s tend to be very reliable with an excellent build, they are rocks. Just test the hell out of it including a ScreenTest. It should do fine.
PM if you want that stateside dealer. It's the US unlocked variant running on Q. Unless you want to root it's the more desirable variant; all the Snapdragon variants use the vapor/copper heat sink, none have the graphene one.
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Could i buy them in Germany?
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Could i buy them in Germany?
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Talk to the vendor, they ship FedEx stateside for free. Not sure about customs etc for offshore.
Make sure it's compatible with your carrier.
I have AT&T, put the sim card in and it was good to go. Sent you a link via PM.
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Talk to the vendor, they ship FedEx stateside for free. Not sure about customs etc for offshore.
Make sure it's compatible with your carrier.
I have AT&T, put the sim card in and it was good to go. Sent you a link via PM.
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Thanks mate but i have the s21 ultra and doesnt need a phone. But when it changes i a few months i will try
Rumors say that the Google Pixel 7 (non-pro) will have a 6.2" display. The Pixel 6 has a 6.4" display.
What do you prefer, and do you think the rumors are true?
I would prefer 6.5" for the non-pro version, and I had a Pixel 6 with 6.4
which was OKish for me (sold the Pixel 6 after 2x RMA and many software bugs).
Right now I got a Realme GT 2 Pro with 6.7" which is quite nice to have for media.
If I wanted 6.7" I would have to go for the Pixel 7 Pro I guess, but I hate curved displays like hell.
The 6.2" of the non-pro version - if it is true - would be a bit too small for me.
I hope it's just a rumor that came up by the size of the cases that are available yet (?) ...
Maybe the bezels are just smaller, a more compact body and the display has still 6.4" or even more?
Or do you think Google wanted to serve people who like smaller displays?
Personally I would prefer a 5.8", keep the bigger sizes on the pro so those of us that want a phone and not a tablet in our pocket can have that.
6.2 is a good size. The OnePlus 6 was 6.2 and damn did I absolutely love that phone. The real question is: will we get an ultrasonic FP sensor, or continue to get the trash they used in the 6 lineup?
Yes, maybe 6.2" is a good size. Sometimes I love the big 6.7" screen of the Realme GT 2 Pro (which is flat, no curved edge crap). But sometimes I guess a little more compact device would be neat too. I remember back in the days when I got my first 5.5" device (I guess it was some Redmi) and it felt so huge. Regarding the FP @XNine - on the Pixel 6 it really was a PITA sometimes or rather often, I got you.
The only chance of me getting this phone is if it is 6.4" or larger. If Google does a smaller screen on the 7 and another curved screen on the 7 Pro, I guess OnePlus is going to get more business from me or at a minimum I'll just keep my OnePlus 9. Even the 6.55" screen on my OP9 is too small...
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The only chance of me getting this phone is if it is 6.4" or larger. If Google does a smaller screen on the 7 and another curved screen on the 7 Pro, I guess OnePlus is going to get more business from me or at a minimum I'll just keep my OnePlus 9. Even the 6.55" screen on my OP9 is too small...
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An official video at the Google store website show that the Pixel 7 Pro will have a curved edge display.
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The OnePlus 9 was a real bummer for me. They did not give the device OIS for the camera, just to upsell the 9 Pro, which is a real d*** move. BBK/Oppo will slowly ruin OnePlus, and so after having a OnePlus 9 too I will not buy their stuff again. BBK that is Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme and iQOO will continue to have a mushy bulk of devices for every price range that floods the market with all of them having the color OS ROM base - the concept reminds me of Xiaomi with MIUI (and the days in which Xiaomi was cool are gone for quite some years now).
If the Pixel 7 really has 6.2" I don't know if I will buy one. 6.4" would be OKish, 6.5" better - but rumors say that the Pro will have 6.57" so it's most unlikely that the non-pro model will have 6.5". If the Pixel 7 will have only 6.2" and 90Hz... well that's kind of lame and I'll have to see what I'll buy. I'm a bit torn back and forth regarding that.
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An official video at the Google store website show that the Pixel 7 Pro will have a curved edge display.
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The OnePlus 9 was a real bummer for me. They did not give the device OIS for the camera, just to upsell the 9 Pro, which is a real d*** move. BBK/Oppo will slowly ruin OnePlus, and so after having a OnePlus 9 too I will not buy their stuff again. BBK that is Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme and iQOO will continue to have a mushy bulk of devices for every price range that floods the market with all of them having the color OS ROM base - the concept reminds me of Xiaomi with MIUI (and the days in which Xiaomi was cool are gone for quite some years now).
If the Pixel 7 really has 6.2" I don't know if I will buy one. 6.4" would be OKish, 6.5" better - but rumors say that the Pro will have 6.57" so it's most unlikely that the non-pro model will have 6.5". If the Pixel 7 will have only 6.2" and 90Hz... well that's kind of lame and I'll have to see what I'll buy. I'm a bit torn back and forth regarding that.
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Well if this is the case, Google will continue to not get my business. This trendy thing of curved screens is bull**** and I won't support it.
As for OnePlus, I like my 9. The cameras aren't the best but I knew that going into it. Rooted OOS12 C.48 is a pretty great experience for me other than the intentional CPU throttling being extremely noticeable in the browser (but fine everywhere else). The only options for me are OnePlus, Google Pixel, and iPhone, because I refuse to buy an Android phone that I a) can't use on every US carrier and b) can't unlock the bootloader on. I will absolutely go back to iPhone before I'll buy a curved screen.
I will stick to pixel 5 if i have to have another phone that pulls down my clothes everytime i put it in my pocket
If i want a large screen ill go to my tablet/laptop
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I will stick to pixel 5 if i have to have another phone that pulls down my clothes everytime i put it in my pocket
If i want a large screen ill go to my tablet/laptop
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Pulls down your clothes??????
Where do you buy your clothes, OshKosh B'Gosh?!
The 6 is perfectly sized and the 7 looks great with that still-unseen flat screen. It'll be phone of the year if it's priced like the 6, fixes the modem issues, and fixes the fingerprint reader. 13 Beta 2.1 has been good for both issues, but this is 6 months after release. If you have the 6 on JOD through T-Mobile, the 7 will likely be a free trade-in.
I also need to second those complaints about the OnePlus 9. No OIS and a plastic frame. Would've been a downgrade from my 8T. There is still no proper successor to the 8T because the 9T and regular 10 don't exist. OnePlus has quickly descended into garbage.
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I will stick to pixel 5 if i have to have another phone that pulls down my clothes everytime i put it in my pocket
If i want a large screen ill go to my tablet/laptop
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I get what you mean about the phone pulling down your pants. I am with you. The 6a's 6.1 screen is right at my limit. At least phone sizes are trending in the right direction.
Why are big phone fans so egoistic? Cannot they understand that other people, however few they might be might have other preferences that are as valid as anyone else's?
I want 4.5 inch screen (with thin bezels). I am daily using 4 inch screen (with bezels), and have on order a 5 inch screen (with thin bezels). I wanted the 6a, but even a 4a is not small for me. If there is no small Pixel, and there is no and there won't be, at this point I am getting the Pixel tablet, to which when compared, makes the 6 Pro screen size frustratingly tiny and unusable.
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Why are big phone fans so egoistic? Cannot they understand that other people, however few they might be might have other preferences that are as valid as anyone else's?
I want 4.5 inch screen (with thin bezels). I am daily using 4 inch screen (with bezels), and have on order a 5 inch screen (with thin bezels). I wanted the 6a, but even a 4a is not small for me. If there is no small Pixel, and there is no and there won't be, at this point I am getting the Pixel tablet, to which when compared, makes the 6 Pro screen size frustratingly tiny and unusable.
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"Small" smartphones are no longer in demand for the vast majority of people.
There are several reasons for this, the main ones being gaming and viewing.
Large, borderless screens are good for gaming and watching videos or movies. Hence the curved screens.
The ideal size for a smartphone is between 5'8 and 6'4, although my next smartphone should be the Pixel 7 Pro (6'7).
I'm sorry to say, but 4,5 is no longer a commercial standard. This is not being selfish but a reality that manufacturers have been slowly bringing about.
Don't people have anything better to do than videos and gaming? Apparently not....
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Don't people have anything better to do than videos and gaming? Apparently not....
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2 posts in this thread from you. Both judgy biased nonsense.
I'd love it to be like the Pixel 5, great device - love it.
P6a is very close at 6.1" -- I think that would be nice, but I'm thinking P7 will end up being 6.3" maybe 6.2" which will take some adjusting. -- My first tablet was 7"....
I'd like the Pixel 7 mini to come true. Depending on just how "mini", I'd probably be all over it.
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I'd love it to be like the Pixel 5, great device - love it.
P6a is very close at 6.1" -- I think that would be nice, but I'm thinking P7 will end up being 6.3" maybe 6.2" which will take some adjusting. -- My first tablet was 7"....
I'd like the Pixel 7 mini to come true. Depending on just how "mini", I'd probably be all over it.
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The 6 has 6.4", the 7 will have 6.2" (that's what all the leaks say) ... really thinking about getting a 7 to have that great Pixel camera experience again. My Realme GT2 pro has 6.7" and it's great for watching YT in bed at night, but damn it sure feels huge sometimes trying to use it with one hand. Pixel 7 pro would be nice too, but it'll be way too expensive for me and I f* hate curved displays. Vendors of the world, wake up! Get rid of the curved display crap concept. *g*
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The 6 has 6.4", the 7 will have 6.2" (that's what all the leaks say) ... really thinking about getting a 7 to have that great Pixel camera experience again. My Realme GT2 pro has 6.7" and it's great for watching YT in bed at night, but damn it sure feels huge sometimes trying to use it with one hand. Pixel 7 pro would be nice too, but it'll be way too expensive for me and I f* hate curved displays. Vendors of the world, wake up! Get rid of the curved display crap concept. *g*
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Pixel cameras are amazing, the Pixel 5 still has a great camera. (I actually just replaced the glass on it finally! I had tape over it, very angry that it somehow broke without my ever dropping it! Found glass on Amazon for under $10. Was extremely easy to apply it. Took me maybe 30 minutes total to get that old glass off. So wish I had fixed it sooner.)
I think at 6.2" could be a real good incentive for me to really consider it, unless a Pixel 7 Mini get confirmed as I could actually see myself on like a 4.8" device, but we'll see! My Pixel 5 still feels snappy enough. I'm happy on A12L. Wish A13 could be modified in ways like A12L, it's unfortunate as I like custom MODs like Tulsadriver's removal of the search bar on the stock Pixel Launcher. (it just feels smoother to me than custom launchers. Always has been this way, could be a placebo, but I also do keep it at 60Hz most of the time to conserve battery.
And I agree man I just don't understand these curved displays! They are horrible!
I don't love the bezels on the Pixel 6 compared to say, Pixel 5. I'm presuming the P7 will have the same look, but oh well. I just hope the bugs are ironed out, and we aren't beta testing. The P6/P6P was just sad to see the amount of issues like with the modem for example. I for one liked Qualcomm processors.. but if in-house can bring down the price, then awesome.
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I just hope the bugs are ironed out, and we aren't beta testing.
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My Pixel 6 well... I really thought Google must be kidding me. That buggy thing was not acceptable for me.
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And I agree man I just don't understand these curved displays! They are horrible!
I don't love the bezels on the Pixel 6 compared to say, Pixel 5. I'm presuming the P7 will have the same look, but oh well. I just hope the bugs are ironed out, and we aren't beta testing. The P6/P6P was just sad to see the amount of issues like with the modem for example. I for one liked Qualcomm processors.. but if in-house can bring down the price, then awesome.
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Yeah no curved displays for this guy... And seeing how Samsung isn't even using their own SoCs and modem in the S23 series at all, I have no faith that things will be any better with the Tensor G2 (especially since it still uses older cores) or the Shannon 5300B modem.