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I opened the box, slapped on my Tumi wireless chargable battery pack from my Moto Z and the battery is insane. No way I can drain this in one day. Also all the complaints about the camera don't make sense to me (yet). I've taken side by side photos with my s8+ and I prefer the z2's pictures to the s8. The shutter doesn't seem slow at all. I don't get it.
The one thing I am annoyed with however, is the speakerphone. It plays nice and loud for Youtube videos and ringtones/music, but phone calls is way too low. The volte calls sound much better and louder than the standard calls though. Also I took some snapchat videos and the audio is very quiet there as well; like you almost can't hear it. It just seems like there is bugs in the audio currently since Youtube gets loud and other stuff doesn't. If they can fix the audio with updates, then I don't see any problems as of yet.
If you get this phone PUT A GLASS PROTECTOR ON IT RIGHT AWAY. You can scratch the screen with your fricken fingernail. It's not worth it to wait a few weeks and then put a protector over a scratched screen. Have one waiting.
This is the fastest, most responsive phone I have ever seen. Excellent ram management too. I can be playing a game and then go to the home screen and use 5 other apps over the course of an hour, then come back to the game and its still in ram right where I left it. Try that with a Samsung, or even Pixel lol. Phone just flies and does everything right. The forward facing speaker and flash is amazing and should be the standard. I also went on a trip and took a bunch of photos. The black and white wasn't really my thing and the depth field effect didn't do much, but just the standard photos are way better than my s8+. I took them side by side to compare.
Also to those complaining of the smaller battery, that's what mods are for. They made a compromise between the Moto Z and the Moto Z Force and just turned it into one phone, so its thinner but still has the shatterproof screen. This phone makes my s8+ feel like a tank. A laggy tank with terrible ram management lol
I'd like to second on how great the phone is, I actually gave up my iPhone 7+ for it. The last android I had was an LG G6 which I had only for a couple days, and it's wonderful. It's very fast, and even without any mods, I get great battery life. The one touch navigation is also pretty awesome. It's like everything I loved about my 7+ back in a customizable android interface I love.
I have to agree with the takes of this being a great phone. I left the S8 for it and don't regret it at all. While the S8 camera was a bit better in lower light and fast motion situations, nearly everything else on this phone is an improvement. Fast, responsive, feels light-weight UI, battery life excellent (avg 4-5 hr SOT). Definitely think Moto's take on mods is a great way to do it. Really looking forward to getting the projector and playing around with that as well.
Well add me to the list! 60+ years old and with this phone I feel like a kid in a candy store. Having a lot of fun with this phone and even started listening to music again.
Ordered Z2, also have S8+: the most important factor
Thank you T-Mobile for allowing bootloader unlock of Z2 Force! I ordered the Moto Z2 Force earlier today. My Samsung S8+ is also nice but Samsung largely ruins it by not allowing US Snapdragon S8/S8+/Note 8 bootloader unlock, and by gimmicky crap like Bixby that eats up RAM.
But, why should someone endure the abuse that is disallowing bootloader unlock (e.g., by Samsung in this instance)? Such is why I will never again buy a phone that does not have a bootloader that can be unlocked, and why I ordered a T-Mobile Z2 Force!
i agree as well, first Moto phone and only complaint i have is the speakerphone like the OP noted. hopefully there will be a fix, but other than that, this phone is perfect for me, waiting for my projector mod and plan on getting either the game pad or JBL speaker mod. would love the Hasselblad mod but will have to save up for that one
This phone is awesome, I jumped from a S8+, then like a fool fell for marketing hype and again jumped to the Note 8.
But I am back in with my Z2 Force.
So i have had both the Samsung S8+ and Note 8 but still prefer my Z2 Force
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This phone is awesome, I jumped from a S8+, then like a fool fell for marketing hype and again jumped to the Note 8.
But I am back in with my Z2 Force.
So i have had both the Samsung S8+ and Note 8 but still prefer my Z2 Force
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You're the perfect person to ask for this. I was hoping to find someone that has had experience with all 3. I have a Z2 and an s8+ (it's for sale). I haven't used the s8 in 3 weeks or more and I switched back to it last night and used it half the day today. It is UNBEARABLE. It is the slowest turd, I just can't believe it. I don't remember it being this bad. I checked for updates and did what I could but it is out insanely slow. Like apps take 3 times as long to launch, horrible ram management and just delays and stutter all the time. It takes twice as long just to go to the home screen for example.
Is the note 8 like that? I haven't played with a note 8 yet, but everything online shows it spanking the s8. Just wondering how it stacks up to the Z2. Thanks for reading.
Note 8 felt sluggish to me. Both the Z2 Force and the Mate 9 are faster.
Z2 is faster than the Mate 9.
I think the S8+, Note 8, and the Z2 Force all have the same 835. The Note 8 just has 6GB of RAM as opposed to 4.
And I am no Samsung hater, I have had the Note 2, 3, 4, 8, Galaxy S3, S5, S7 Edge, and S8+.
I also currently have and use the S3 Frontier, Samsung Level U Bluetooth, and Samsung Level Box Mini.
I also think Samsung's calendar is the best in the business. I also like their dialer and keyboard, although SwiftKey is my favorite.
The Z series is just great. And the Z2 Force takes it to another level. You got full flagship specs and the light skin of Moto.
Just enough cool stuff to not be boring like Stock Android, while still being light enough that it flies.
And absolutely nothing can beat that double chop for flashlight
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Note 8 felt sluggish to me. Both the Z2 Force and the Mate 9 are faster.
Z2 is faster than the Mate 9.
I think the S8+, Note 8, and the Z2 Force all have the same 835. The Note 8 just has 6GB of RAM as opposed to 4.
And I am no Samsung hater, I have had the Note 2, 3, 4, 8, Galaxy S3, S5, S7 Edge, and S8+.
I also currently have and use the S3 Frontier, Samsung Level U Bluetooth, and Samsung Level Box Mini.
I also think Samsung's calendar is the best in the business. I also like their dialer and keyboard, although SwiftKey is my favorite.
The Z series is just great. And the Z2 Force takes it to another level. You got full flagship specs and the light skin of Moto.
Just enough cool stuff to not be boring like Stock Android, while still being light enough that it flies.
And absolutely nothing can beat that double chop for flashlight
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Yep chop chop ftw lol Use it every single day. Thanks for the heads up about the note. I still might check one out sometime, but for now though I'm loving my Z2.
Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
I have the AT&T version which I'll return once the unlocked version I ordered comes in. I'm glad I made the switch but for me it's the slight change in shape that makes it for me. I like the S pen but could live without, battery has been about as good, still new so it needs to settle in but otherwise I'm happy.
Right now (in my country) used S8+ goes for about 720$ and new S8+ is like 830$, and new Note8 goes for 1190$. I'm waiting for N8 price drop - suspecting that next month it will be about 1050$, and then I'll definitly switch
It depends on what kind of user you are. The big difference is the sPen, obviously. If that's something you see yourself using then yes, it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise, I'd say no. The screen bump isn't monumental, the extra RAM is only useful if you're an extreme multitasker, and performance is largely the same.
IMO yes. Im note user and lover
The phone shape to me is better.
Been missing my spen for a while. The fingerprint sensor is in a better loctaction. The camera takes better photo.
The extra ram makes it a bit faster/smoother.
So to me worth the upgrade.
Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here:
My cousin has the S8+ and my Note feels a hell of lot more high end than his. I think it's worth the switch just because of looks and feel. Then you get the S Pen that I use every day. It's so nice to go through your phone with the S Pen.
I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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Absolutely agree with this 110%.
I enjoy the dual camera setup, the additional width, and the less muted screen edges.
I don't miss my S8+.
Note 8 is all about s-pen and it's the only one, if you don't care about the pen, personally I don't see compelling reason to upgrade and since you're asking, probably there isn't one.
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Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
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The Note 8 is NOT an upgrade, its not designed to be.
The 8 series of Samsung mobile phone consist's of three models, the S8, S8+ and the Note 8. All three models are similar and are there to fit an individual choice. One is a smallish mobile the other a phablet and the Note fills a small niche market and caters for those who use the S-pen and its software.
Most people don't want the S-pen that is why the S8+ is there but some don't want a phablet that is why the S8 exists.
I own the S8+ and regret deeply buying it as I wanted the Note but me being me I had to go and spend silly money four months ago to then go and spend even more silly money for the mobile I have wanted since owning my two Note 7's. I now own the mobile I am content with and man does that take some doing. I have owned around five phones this year alone. There won't be anymore until maybe the Note 9. Read that maybe as a certainty (help!!!)
It serves zero purpose to compare the three models they are as different as the Mercedes E class in salon, convertible and coupe, all have identical major parts but vary in some area of style, size and usage etc.
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Well Worth investment.
It's worth the upgrade if you're looking to multitask heavier, As with Note 8 you can get the ability to use sPen plus there is dual camera included along with the legandary S8+ camera. Battery life is about the same but on some occasions, you may experience shorter battery life compared to S8+.
I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls6AiPkJsc
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I have to agree with this reason alone. The s8+ feels sluggish compared to how the note 8 performs. Not regretting the move.
Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
It's all about the s-pen. Well worth it if you use the pen on a regular basis. The shape also feels better to me. I use mine alot for work, I keep spreadsheets and PDF files on here alot and take pictures and draw notes on top with s-pen , and that makes it irreplaceable to me. My recent stint with the s7edge made me really miss the note series and I ended up using the note 5 alot until the note 8 came out. I have had all the notes since the note 2.
Hope this helps
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
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The Note 8 has a greater IQ than some of its owners. What you write is common sense and unfortunately passes over some owners heads. :crying: I often feel sorry for the Note 8 and not its owner.
Rather inflammatory post! Must have got out the wrong side of the bed this morning. Stuff it.
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Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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^^This.^^
My first Android phone was a Droid Incredible. There were definitely advantages to rooting which outweighed the random restarts and occasional bootloops. The more advanced the phones become, the less I see a need to root. I wasn't even inspired to root the LG V20.
I've seen zero lag in this phone especially after boosting the animations to .5. I'm not much of a themer, but Substratum seems to have that base covered. It seems that a creative mix of Tasker and AutoTools can do wonders to a phone without rooting. In short, the last custom ROM I ran was for the Note 7. There was no advantage to me. Your mileage may vary.
Back to the Note 8/S8 discussion... the Note 8 has the cameras the S8 doesn't have. It has more memory than the S8. The screen is bigger... nominally... than the S8+, and there's the S-pen. If that's important to ya... or if having the latest and greatest is, buy the Note 8.
Good day and a happy new year. I am considering a switch from apple again and this is my target device. The things i need your help deciding are the below, in order of priority (for me) :
-Thermals. I have been switching between iphones and androids for many years. And so far all androids i owned (most samsung devices) tend to heat up even with the most normal of uses. My last switch from s7 edge to Iphone 6s Plus was purely due to that. You could feel the device back heating just from surfing on wifi indoors. Please advise how the Note 9 performs in this task.
-Camera . It is widely said that Note 9 camera does not handle motion at all . For example , shooting a person that moves or an animal, will surely result in a blurry photo. Just how bad is the situation ?
-Background applications resource usage . In my last experience with android (s7e 7.1) just about any application could run any way it wanted and hog resources/battery without any consent whatsoever. I get the benefits of multitasking but if the trade off is me losing control of what is going on i need to take it in consideration. Please advise how the Note 9 performs in this task (current android version it runs atm).
-Storage speed . iPhones over 6+ are using nvme type flash storage wich is stupid fast. I cannot find any nand benchmarks for the note 9 exynos model. Any info on that? Also what type of nand does it use(very important for future proofing).
-Processor .I n my region the only note 9 available is the one with exynos (SM-N960F). how does it perform compared to the snapdragon variant ?
-GPS . As you may have heard, iPhone GPS accuracy and lock speeds are out of this world. Is note 9's performance in this area satisfactory? (again for the exynos model).
- Any one here switched from iphone to note 9 ? Maybe you could share something that you would consider useful to know beforehand ?
So sorry to hit you with that wall of text but for me €800+ for a phone is kind of a big deal (for my current financials). That is mostly why i had to rule out the XS Max in the first place (€1350+ where i live).
Camera wise the IQ from the N9 is quite a bit better, and in Pro mode i have no issues with movement. The screen on the N9 is in another league. Resource use wise, yes Samsung has a lot of junk but it's easy enough to delete (even system) junk even on an unrooted phone, and even the ones you keep you can control each app individually for resource use (mobile data, battery). Processing wise the iPhones have always been solid but the N9 is very slick to. I've had mine a month and no heating issues at all not even a little. Battery life wise i get 7odd hours off SoT and about 60 odd hours between charges. Best phone I've ever had, and the SPen functionality is amazing!
Exynos is at least as good as Snapdragon, probably a bit better actually if you read the forums. GPS is very good I've had no issues.
I had an iPhone 7 a few years back but it cannot compete at all with the N9 imho.
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Well to be fair compare e iphone 6s plus to the note 9 is a hit pointless.... Any category you will se better performance l. Software wise S9 and note 9 are the android phones from Samsung that will never slow down at all. Then leaves the software experience that android and apple offers that should be where you make your decision...
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Well to be fair compare e iphone 6s plus to the note 9 is a hit pointless.... Any category you will se better performance l. Software wise S9 and note 9 are the android phones from Samsung that will never slow down at all. Then leaves the software experience that android and apple offers that should be where you make your decision...
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Why is it that they will not slow down at all ?
In my experience all androids start to slow down after the 6-8 months mark.
I had my S8+ for over a year and never saw any decrease in performance, i cleared dalvik cache every once in a while and never saw any performance drop.
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I currently am using both the Note 9 snapdragon version and the iPhone xs max and BOTH phones are very fast. Without hitting every point I'll try to answer the overall questions you have. For me the one thing I like better about the iphone is the physical size of the phone. I like that it's a touch thicker and wider, just feels a bit better balanced in my hand but that's it. I have not had any issues with my Note getting warm, even a little bit. I use Package Disabler from the play store and freeze the apps, even processes which I don't want taking up resources on my phone. I think I paid a couple of bucks for the app but it works well. The photos I've taken with the phone have been fine but I'm not taking pictures everyday. I just can do so much more with my Note, the secure folder is almost like having a second phone plus the s pen can't be beat. I try new ios devices when they come out but I always get bored with them after a few weeks which is not the same feeling I get with Android. I will say ios feels a lot more Android like with the latest version then it did a few years ago but it's still too boring for me. The best analogy I've heard is ios is for people that like to play checkers and Android is for people that like to play chess.
Hope that helps,
Try the Note 9....end of story!
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I currently am using both the Note 9 snapdragon version and the iPhone xs max and BOTH phones are very fast. Without hitting every point I'll try to answer the overall questions you have. For me the one thing I like better about the iphone is the physical size of the phone. I like that it's a touch thicker and wider, just feels a bit better balanced in my hand but that's it. I have not had any issues with my Note getting warm, even a little bit. I use Package Disabler from the play store and freeze the apps, even processes which I don't want taking up resources on my phone. I think I paid a couple of bucks for the app but it works well. The photos I've taken with the phone have been fine but I'm not taking pictures everyday. I just can do so much more with my Note, the secure folder is almost like having a second phone plus the s pen can't be beat. I try new ios devices when they come out but I always get bored with them after a few weeks which is not the same feeling I get with Android. I will say ios feels a lot more Android like with the latest version then it did a few years ago but it's still too boring for me. The best analogy I've heard is ios is for people that like to play checkers and Android is for people that like to play chess.
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Try the Note 9....end of story!
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Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
I also use Note 9 and iPhone XS Max. The only thing I really love with the Note 9 is the secure folder function and the split screen for two apps at the same time. That’s alone make me keeping my Note.
The camera in the iPhone is better in every aspect and that is when using auto mode. Don’t have the time to fiddle with pro mode. And the problems with fur and other details in photos are really there so not that impressed with the Note camera.
The pen is nice but I don’t use it that much as I thought I would as I find the Note 9 screen to narrow to really use it in a good way for notes.
They are both really speedy devices and haven’t had any slowdowns in them. Both flying, sure the Note can have some micro lag sometimes but nothing that disturbs me.
The battery holds up much better in my iPhone with the same usage pattern but the Note still has a pretty nice battery. The speakers are much better in the iPhone. But they are not bad on the Note.
And the gesture navigation on the XS is outstanding as is Face ID. I miss this two things very much when using the Note
I have the exynos version and the snapdragon is said to be better on battery and speed
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Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
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I have not had any issues with taking pictures, as I stated I don't take pictures every day but I do take my fair share of them. I was recently in Southern Germany/Austria and Hungary for an extended trip and I took many photos without any problems using my Note exclusively. I do agree with easycure1974, the battery on the iphone xs max is better, I still have about 60 to 70% left in my Note at the end of the day but maybe 70-80% left on my iphone. Both are very good but the iphone has better battery management.
Thank the both of you very much.
To be honest XS MAX is the one i wanted, but the cost is very close to double of that of the note 9. and it definately is not 2x better.
Yet again , thank you. i will most probably just on the note wagon soon !
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Why is it that they will not slow down at all ?
In my experience all androids start to slow down after the 6-8 months mark.
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Well to be fair my S8 didn't slow down my S9 plus never lost a beat and never had a app crash n9 the best phone all the S9 plus good with the large battery brighter screen and a pen.
Had iPhone 6s iPhone 7 plus 8 and iPhone x and n9 for me is the whole package.
I've switched from the iPhone 7 plus to this phone and the difference is day and night. You cant even compare the two at all. My battery is insane. Background operations are managed very well to the point where my SOT hits 7.5-8 hours easily. This phone is literally the best phone you can buy now a days. The only thing I miss is iOS and it's cleaner design. I can't wait for the note 10. Options are endless on this phone. I've had literally zero issues for the 2 months I've had this phone. And now the android pie release this month will make it even better. You won't regret it if you're not hooked to the apple "ecosystem"
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I've switched from the iPhone 7 plus to this phone and the difference is day and night. You cant even compare the two at all. My battery is insane. Background operations are managed very well to the point where my SOT hits 7.5-8 hours easily. This phone is literally the best phone you can buy now a days. The only thing I miss is iOS and it's cleaner design. I can't wait for the note 10. Options are endless on this phone. I've had literally zero issues for the 2 months I've had this phone. And now the android pie release this month will make it even better. You won't regret it if you're not hooked to the apple "ecosystem"
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Nice ! Good to hear ! Battery backup is very important for me too !
Btw i am not wealthy enough to be "hooked" on the ecosystem
I mean i do buy music/apps/books alot, from itunes but the iPhone is about the only apple device i have (no watches,tablets,laptops,desktops,tv,routers etc).
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Nice ! Good to hear ! Battery backup is very important for me too !
Btw i am not wealthy enough to be "hooked" on the ecosystem
I mean i do buy music/apps/books alot, from itunes but the iPhone is about the only apple device i have (no watches,tablets,laptops,desktops,tv,routers etc).
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You'll love the battery life on this phone. And good on not being hooked. Same here. I never buy anything other products beside an iPhone every once in a while. But I always go back to android. This time this note is hooking me with its goodness. I don't even miss iPhone. ::highfive::
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You'll love the battery life on this phone. And good on not being hooked. Same here. I never buy anything other products beside an iPhone every once in a while. But I always go back to android. This time this note is hooking me with its goodness. I don't even miss iPhone. ::highfive::
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He would love the iPhone XS Max even more The battery on that is even better in real life usage and the camera is so much nicer. But Android and the Note is fun to use
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He would love the iPhone XS Max even more The battery on that is even better in real life usage and the camera is so much nicer. But Android and the Note is fun to use
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I'm sure. I just cant justify the $1100 for that phone.
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If you plan on taking pics of your furball babies you will be disappointed.
chris2busy said:
Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
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If you plan on taking pics of your furball babies you will be disappointed.
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Oh...well that is not good. so the lens is not capable of sharp pictures? e.g. it cannot shoot individual hair ?
Would a pic like the attached be impossible e.g? (the hair of pets is an example, it could likewise be same for strands of grass, hair of ppl in photos etc)
Something like that would come out not so good. There is a dedicated thread sub section about camera quality.
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Oh...well that is not good. so the lens is not capable of sharp pictures? e.g. it cannot shoot individual hair ?
Would a pic like the attached be impossible e.g? (the hair of pets is an example, it could likewise be same for strands of grass, hair of ppl in photos etc)
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Where do I start with this, well let's start with my S10 plus 512gb version as that was my daily driver since launch. For me that's a seriously long time to stay with the same phone. It still is top notch, pardon the punt.
I never thought I would leave my favourite phone for so many reasons on the shelve to pickup the cheaper Oneplus.
The following are the reasons why I'm currently holding on to Oneplus 7 pro, the features which I most impressed with:
1. QHD 6.67" amoled screen, vibrant big and bright all screen. Nearly as vibrant as Samsung's screen.
2. Camera best Oneplus have produced. Images sharp with good detail, really impressed. Obviously not as good as Samsung's but for me good enough. I'm not a massive picture taker or selfies person.
3. Loud dual speakers, again this is top notch. Not as full or rich sound as S10 plus but it's darn close. Another surprise.
4. Triple SSS performance (coin that one) - Super smooth speedy performance. No strutting or freezing experienced yet.
5. Near stock firmware with a few Oneplus touches.
6. Quick updates to latest Android software.
7. Pop up camera prefer it over the hole in the screen, use it unlock phone as it's cool.
8. That damn refresh rate, boy ow boy is it smooth. This has completely spoilt me, it's fluid. This was always missing in android phones when comparing to iPhone. It's not perfect but it's brilliant.
It's pricey but when I consider how much other flagships are selling for its value for money.
I would pick this phone over every other phone even though it doesn't have wireless charging and waterproof ratings and only 256gb storage. Anyone overly reliant on these features then this phone isn't for you. Fortunately I'm not and I'm sticking with it for as long as I can.
So far I haven't missed my s10 plus and I'm glad Oneplus took this flagship route too. And I'm glad they've given people choice of going premium or the cheaper version.
Any questions give me a shout.
totally agree with everything you wrote!
This is my first day using this phone, also switching from the s10+ 512
Also I have come from the S10+ 8/512gb Ceramic White, whilst I very much enjoyed my experience, and Samsung produced a solid device.
The user experience is the selling point for OnePlus, it is simply untouched at this point, it's a perfect blend if you will.
I'm not saying I had any issues with my S10+ it was smooth, and OneUI is a remarkable improvement. However there was 4 Solid reasons for me to switch.
1)The 90htz all screen display, now I have experienced 90htz with the R.O.G and it's something I very much appreciate, also an uninterrupted screen, (the punch hole is not bad) but having the Find X and Next previously I grew to appreciated (no interruptions).
2)30w Fast charging, yeah this is a great thing (currently have 44w with my Vivo IQOO) and when using the S10+ with 15w it was painstakingly slow in comparisons.
3)UFS 3.0 now this was included in the "Galaxy Fold" why it wasn't present in the S10+ or even the 5G variant is Monday boggling, as clearly it can be massed produced and Samsung are in the semiconductor industry so "confused" but another reason to switch it up.
4) Software oh boy do I fully appreciate oxygenOS is clean, well optimised and has a fine blend. It's almost perfect, and in some ways better than stock itself (although it's close to)
5)ok I'm adding in but it is a great development device, still now OnePlus are friendly in this regard and in my opinion I think they are fully sensible as they learn so much from this, the development community gives them information on what we want improved, implemented, the likes and dislikes, even development that makes things better like Gcam, they learn from this. So their is no arrogance, this I like.
Samsung are closing doors and TWRP has to run on the boot partition now (not good).
So I'm not saying the S10+ is not a great device it's fantastic, it's just not quite as good as a user experience you get with OnePlus. Ok camera needs work on the 7 Pro, but I think it will get there and for the pics I take it's perfectly acceptable.
Will get my 7 Pro tomorrow, looking forward to that great user experience.
I only wish the oneplus had the gs10 plus type of curve display since they decided on a curve. The gs10 plus curves almost at the end of the border while the 7 pro curves at 75% of the screen.
I also switched from an S10+ for the display without a notch, better update support, and overall smoothness of OnePlus phones. I'm deciding whether or not to keep it as a back up since the resale value has plummeted.
Goodbye to my nice S10 Plus and hello cool 1+7Pro! Cheers
I honestly was debating whether to get the S10 plus or the 7 pro. Decided on the 7 pro and was going to think about it for the next week since I have 14 days from date of purchase to return the phone. My mind is made up now so now I'm trying to get my wife one now.
I own both the 7 Pro and the S10+
This is coming from someone who hasn't owned a Samsung since the Note 4 and has owned almost every OnePlus device.
While the 7 Pro is a really good phone the S10+ is just better. The only things better on the 7 Pro is the screen scrolling (90htz), OnePlus gestures (best Android gestures hands down), UFS 3.0 storage, and screen off gestures.
The fingerprint reader is faster on the 7 Pro but the fingerprint reader on S10+ works when your fingers are wet, and you don't need to wake the screen to use it.
I do like the size of the 7 Pro (I like bigger phones) but in-hand the S10+ feels better, 7 Pro is thicker than the S10+.
Samsung's new One UI is nothing like the old Touchwiz. The S10+ has so many customization option it's not even funny. I have found no reason to want to root the S10+ (coming from someone who has rooted every single phone they have owned).
7 Pro camera is ok but the camera on the S10+ is good if not great (not Pixel great).
The S10+ will be my daily driver and the 7 Pro will be my rooting, flashing, playing around on phone.
I have both the S10 5g and OP7 Pro. Both are outstanding devices. You can't go wrong with either. But the price difference can't be overlooked. With tax, the S10 5g (512gb) is double that of the OP7 Pro. Think about that for a minute...DOUBLE!! How may things can you think of that are half the price of the competition and actually better?!?!? I can't think of any. Says a lot about OP and what they have accomplished. There are obviously pros/cons with both devices. Depends what your needs are. Kudos to Samsung & OnePlus for making great devices!
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I may be only one, but I think the overall performance of the 7 pro is in a whole other league. I've yet to ever see this thing stutter at anything I've done on it. Cannot say the same about my current S10+ ceramic or any other one I've had including the crazy 12gb 1T variant. I've had the U, U1, W, F and F/DS and most of the time phone will stutter. It was most noticable when unlocking it and going to the home screen, mind you my home screen is not a clutter fest but a simple single row of 5 icons and one clock. Then in general use, chrome would take a bit to open etc.
Then there is the wireless power share, total gimmick if you ask me. It's cool sure, but useful to what degrees? Maybe if you got the Galaxy buds (which wore also asstwine aipod sounding hot garbage) and charge them when going to bed.
Wireless charging? Could careless for it, never use it anyway.
Built quality tho will have to go to Samsung. The 7 pro feels nice in the hand and you can feel it's much better then the 6T which felt like a $200 toy but it can't beat the feel of the S10+. I've also noticed OnePlus uses some sort of lower quality of metal for their housing as I'm noticing some fine scratches from 2 days of use and being super careful with it. Never had that issue with the s10+, no case ever, no screen protector and not a single micro scratch.
Coming from a Note 9....I really like OP font and speed. As others mentioned, even chrome is faster loading. Yes the screen on the Note is much better and the gcam loaded on the Note owns OP...for now anyways, but something about this phone smoothness and speed has me hooked on it. I'm still in the 14 day window on it and thus still deciding to keep it... But otherwise I love it. Love the OS, speed, gestures, etc. The screen curve is ok, but could have been better. Look at it like this guy's.... It's better than what's coming from pixel 4....
True, the Pixel's are always behind and have a hard time catching up with once a year release...
What I prefer Samsung S10 plus ceramic
over Oneplus 7 pro.
S10 plus build quality ceramic version feels and looks much more premium
S10 plus is thinner
S10 plus speakers
S10 plus camera and video recording options
S10 plus 512gb memory option
Would I go back to S10 probably not as I'm Oneplus is almost my ideal phone. After using Oneplus software, screen refresh and triple SSS performance I couldn't.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Samsung galaxy note 20 ultra
Yes this is great phone i already using it great company
So far I have to say this phone is on its way to becoming the New GOAT. Build quality is stellar, i don't mind the camera bump, small sacrifice for a better shooter. Plus I always rest my finger against it. But that being said, it's pretty much the perfect phone IMO.
The display, the smoothness, the cameras. If I can get 6h + SOT on top of that it'll definitely become my GOAT Samsung phone. Dethroning the Note 7 who dethroned the Galaxy S4 Google play edition but I digress.
I don't see myself moving to another phone any time soon.
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Initial thoughts after final setup:
Going from a A20 ultra to a Note 20 ultra, I think this phone just looks and might even perform better. The feel in the hand, the fingerprint reader, everything seems to run smoother. I'm loving it so far.
My main concern is the battery life with heavy use. I've tweaked the settings a bit, so I guess I will have a better idea after a few days of use. But so far so good! :good:
I just received and configured my Note 20 Ultra. It's so similiar to Note 10+ but faster. Software looks almost the same. I already have 1 software update with security patch from 1st of August
edit: what is annoying is that pen is from the other side it's inconviniet if you are using right hand to operate and hold your phon in your left hand
It's an incredible phone. So much smaller than my first mobile phone 35 years ago. How far we have come since Palm first put a PDA and mobile into the same unit. Luv, Luv, Luv.
PS. The Beans are wonderful. So nice to not have a bud sticking into my ear canal.
PPS. Now I have to wait all over again for my Tab S7+.
advocate2 said:
It's an incredible phone. So much smaller than my first mobile phone 35 years ago. How far we have come since Palm first put a PDA and mobile into the same unit. Luv, Luv, Luv.
PS. The Beans are wonderful. So nice to not have a bud sticking into my ear canal.
PPS. Now I have to wait all over again for my Tab S7+.
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Lol, I remember those. My first phone was a brick phone with a battery that lasted an hour if you were lucky, and a hand calculator sized screen. Times have changed indeed. It's amazing.
a Lefty's dream!
duchian said:
I just received and configured my Note 20 Ultra. It's so similiar to Note 10+ but faster. Software looks almost the same. I already have 1 software update with security patch from 1st of August
edit: what is annoying is that pen is from the other side it's inconviniet if you are using right hand to operate and hold your phon in your left hand
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I have waited on the Note series for a while. What finally took my commitment was finding out the s pen is on the left. As a lefty, this is the most convenient placement I can imagine.
Anticipate that the placement will change back to the right in the next iteration after feedback from rightys.
If the s-pen was on the right, it would be perfect. Fingerprint scanner is brilliant now, screen is unreal, battery life is phenomenal, speed is beyond belief... Perfection. Good luck topping this, Samsung
Love this phone! It's definitely my favorite phone ever. It just barely beats my love for the OnePlus 8 Pro. I like the form factor of this phone better with less display curves. Plus all the tons of software features. However the colors and brightness on the OnePlus 8 Pro are better.
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Love this phone! It's definitely my favorite phone ever. It just barely beats my love for the OnePlus 8 Pro. I like the form factor of this phone better with less display curves. Plus all the tons of software features. However the colors and brightness on the OnePlus 8 Pro are better.
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Can you elaborate further on the brightness? Everything I've read says the Note 20 Ultra has a brighter screen than the OnePlus 8 Pro, and the rated nits value is quite a bit higher. It might only go up to highest brightness in adaptive mode and being outside? IDK, but you're the first person I've seen say this.
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Can you elaborate further on the brightness? Everything I've read says the Note 20 Ultra has a brighter screen than the OnePlus 8 Pro, and the rated nits value is quite a bit higher. It might only go up to highest brightness in adaptive mode and being outside? IDK, but you're the first person I've seen say this.
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This is the best way I have of describing my N20U screen brightness.
On a no cloud sunny day, I can take my phone out and see the screen perfectly. No more having to turn to use my body for shade and my hand to see the screen.
I am 69 with mild Adult onset Macular Degeneration. This phone is fantastic for me with auto brightness enabled.
I hope that helps.
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Couldn't agree more. After owning note 2,3,4,7,8, and 9 with the pen on the right it will take some getting used to.
Battery life is also a bit meh coming from a Poco F2 Pro but it's good enough to get me to the end of the day so I can live with it.
Apart from those two factors I love this thing. Even at 60hz the screen is very bright and vibrant. It's very responsive, plenty quick enough for day to day tasks, and I've got the inferior Exynos model since that's all my country gets.
Camera is also beast. Low light isn't quite as good as my P30 Pro but it's still pretty impressive compared to a lot of smart phones out there. One thing it does have over the p30 is that it's much faster to grab focus so much better for quick snaps.
great phone, super screen, great that the diagonal has become larger, very convenient !!!
I bought note 20 ultra it is most bs phone i ever use it
No complaint in the overall experience
I've had Note 1, Note 3, S7, S10+ and now N20U from HK with Snapdragon. I've only had it two days, but I'm very happy with the phone. Big £ savings vs UK Exynos are icing and a cherry on top of the cake.
Having pre ordered the phone and having used Notes 3,4,7, 8 and now the 20 Utra 5G with 512gb internal storage; I wanted to wait to make a judgement call but I can say while there are things I like about the phone, I don't think it is what I expected and I am done with Samsung products.
I mean they have tried un-successfully to get rid of the micro sd card slot so then they go after the head phone jack. They skimp on the 120Hz display at full resolution. I mean there are a number of things for a flag ship $1549 phone that just say crap. I was interested in a watch and a tab s7 also. but that isn't going to happen.
I've owned a number of Samsung devices in the past, including Notes 8 and 9 as well as an S10e provided by my company. The Note 9 is, to me, an icon and the last no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I do a lot of mobile photography and have always gravitated toward devices that had impressive camera/audio/video capabilities as well as feature-filled in other areas. I wanted to get my hands on the Note 20 Ultra but wasn't willing to relinquish my still pristine Note 9 for the pre-order trade in discount. So I waited for the software problems to get sorted out and the prices to come down. I regularly scanned the Offer Up and Swappa websites until I was able to a factory unlocked 512GB model from a good seller at a great price. This device is a juggernaut of power, form, function, features and fun. I found it not to be too much larger than my Note 9 which fits oh so nicely in hand in its Caseoloy Paraxell case. The camera and video set up is a mobile photographer's dream. I've utilized Google Pixel software apks (GCam) on all of my devices going back to my LG V20 and the stock cameras work so well that I have found no need to port one this time out. This is just overall a top notch piece of tech that does so many things and does them well. It is a quality, powerful, feature-filled piece of technology that will fulfill your needs, whether it's mobile photography, work productivity or content consumption/creation and everything in between. I'm glad I added it to my lineup.
Hardware is great ! With a few greed related exceptions, ( Like Non-Removable Battery, No Audio Port,etc... ) Scamsung's Locked Bluetooth codec really burns my ars !
It could Do/Be so much more/better if they would just fix the Hardware/Firmware lockdown BS.
Coming from a Rooted Note3, this is a really bad experience trying to do anything with this thing, Nothing works without agreeing to some sort of sketchy user agreement. No one is making any usable apps any more, Most of the Best Developers have quit bothering with Android. Even simple widgets don't even work anymore
I DO NOT OWN this over priced phone, They Do ! And they do/steal what ever they want to/from it !
They forced Assdroid 11 in the middle of the night with a corrupt image, I was forced to send it back to them to get it re-flashed. Now None of the apps I was using on version 10 will work on ver. 11.
I will NEVER buy another assdroid, scamsung again. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone either.
Sad that almost all the hardware/software makers are using these creepy/greedy tactics to spy,steal & dictate what you should do. No other choices out there any more ...
Soon you will have to log in just to wipe your ass ! & they Will be counting your turds.