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[Q] Bluetooth Issues After Stopping Sixaxis Controller

Hey all, so I recently spent some time learning up on these awesome forums, and at least for getting started I decided to just modify stock 2.2, I have just really wanted to be able to play games using my ps3 controller on my nook so I thought the easiest path was to root using the Universal Rev3, and the Unknown Apps, at least to get me started. I have a bluetooth keyboard I also use with this setup for school. Okay so that's the upfront details.
My issue is that, while my bluetooth is connecting fine with everything before I run sixaxis, and my controller works (yay, i got what i wanted!) while I'm running the program, it's when I stop sixaxis and it restores my bluetooth (or says it does... or gets stuck and never says it does) my bluetooth simply can't be switched back on until after I reboot... I've completely stopped and disabled and cleared the cache on the sixaxis app... and nothing, still won't turn back on. Now this is a cadillac issue, my controller works, my keyboard works, but I just have to reset. The problem is that I know it shouldn't be this way and if it has to be, I'll survive, but if not I'd love a way to make it work right, or at the very least see if there's an option to... "respring" (I know that's an iphone thing I just didn't know if there was a faster equivalent to a reboot without having to completely turn it off and back on)?
Anyone else had this problem? Any thoughts? Any options? Thanks for your time and information, have a great day!

"t's when I stop sixaxis and it restores my bluetooth (or says it does... or gets stuck and never says it does) my bluetooth simply can't be switched back on until after I reboot..."
Obviously, its at the fault of the app, because otherwise (sixaxis not installed/used) bluetooth would function properly and no restart would be required.
Therefore, sixaxis is not ending support of the controller properly, re-enabling bluetooth support, or whatever its trying to do for the device, android version, or whatever its problem is in code.
Probably good to let the app's dev know about it and find out if they say anything.
Since root access is required, it definitely requires some deeper access to android (the deeper the more problems are likely to occur). Some code doesn't even work for all devices and they could have gone that route with their app knowingly - whether it was a necessary side effect due to the type of app they created or specifically because of a workaround of what google allows devs to do with android.
Either way it is often an app with problems as reviews show.

sandsofmyst said:
"t's when I stop sixaxis and it restores my bluetooth (or says it does... or gets stuck and never says it does) my bluetooth simply can't be switched back on until after I reboot..."
Obviously, its at the fault of the app, because otherwise (sixaxis not installed/used) bluetooth would function properly and no restart would be required.
Therefore, sixaxis is not ending support of the controller properly, re-enabling bluetooth support, or whatever its trying to do for the device, android version, or whatever its problem is in code.
Probably good to let the app's dev know about it and find out if they say anything.
Since root access is required, it definitely requires some deeper access to android (the deeper the more problems are likely to occur). Some code doesn't even work for all devices and they could have gone that route with their app knowingly - whether it was a necessary side effect due to the type of app they created or specifically because of a workaround of what google allows devs to do with android.
Either way it is often an app with problems as reviews show.
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Hey thanks a ton for the information. I had started to suspect that but since I'm a noob here I thought it was best to ask. Will contact the developer. But hey for now if all I have to do is a reset after a gaming session to make all things right, it's not so bad. Thanks again!
EDIT: Okay, so after doing some fiddling with my own Nook HD+ it looks like the Nook itself has trouble shutting down bluetooth! When I go into my battery use bluetooth is staying on permanently after initially turning it on. The time continues to run no matter what I do or shutdown with Android Task Manger. And it appears I'm not the only one. http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...Bluetooth-won-t-turn-off-Nook-HD/td-p/1462091
Also since mine is rooted and has unknown sources installed I felt like I needed a control group. So I borrowed my wifes Nook HD+ which is completely stock, no mods at all... and it does the exact same thing... This is mind boggling. Could a few people turn their bluetooth on long enough to register in their battery monitor, then turn it off, and tell me if their time is still running for the bluetooth? It would really help me identify whether this a software problem with Nook software, or it's a hardware issue that they had amongst several models and they shipped with bad parts, etc. Thanks!

gregorcarbine said:
Could a few people turn their bluetooth on long enough to register in their battery monitor, then turn it off, and tell me if their time is still running for the bluetooth? It would really help me identify whether this a software problem with Nook software, or it's a hardware issue that they had amongst several models and they shipped with bad parts, etc. Thanks!
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It could also be this or similar: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=69135
Quote, "Problem: When turning off the Jawbone, it causes the Bluetooth(BT) to misbehave and not turn off nor function."
...Though that's for android 4.4.2 and nook 2.2 is android 2.2... wow that's old... that could of course be it as well - if the problem is with android, it could have been fixed in a later android version.
In the end, it doesn't appear to have to do with the device itself, but perhaps with that android version's bluetooth package or an installed app. And which android version (if any) would work for you idk. I remember people saying cm and sixaxis didn't work with bluetooth on the nook in the past, so if that's still the case, don't know that either.
I'm not sure how far back many apps are going today with android versions but something like: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
could possibly do something(?). But, I'm just reaching there for anything in the you never know category.
But hopefully that gives a better picture as to what it could be. Sorry, I can't give an actual [working] solution, though for all I know I gave a path to the only solution.

Help with companion apps

So I got a new toy. A Samsung Gear Live. I've had it for a week and so far really like it. The biggest issue I seem to be having is the companion apps. I don't know why, but they refuse to work. Everytime I try to use one I get an error message to the tune of, " not connected to a device with this application" or "lost connection to phone". This is clearly untrue. I can see that I'm still connected and even the device itself acknowledges it. I just can't figure it out.
I have attempted a power cycle, using the restart function, a hard reboot, even reseting it back to factory. I rebooted my phone, Uninstalled and reinstalled the apps on the phone, and still no luck. I'm at a loss. Anyone who knows what to do on this front would be very welcome.

What are companion apps?
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Companion apps, are the apps that are activated on your smart watch. Like the dominoes easy order app, or a bank app that let's you check your balances without pulling out your phone.
I did find my problem however. It seems that my gear live was shipped with a dev kit. I had to completely reflash it to stock software to get it to run correctly.

How did you figure out it was a dev kit? Im having similar problems. Thanks.

Fixed the problem resetting the watch and reinstalling the Android wear app. However now in the storange manager its showing three of several apps. How to fix please?

You can find if it has a Dev kit under the settings. Under build I believe. It should be a set of numbers with "dev" somewhere in it. If that's there, it's gonna hold up your regular use of the watch. It caused the apps not to work right or not to show up, etc. I'll see if I can find the link I used before for how I reset the watch to stock firmware.

automatically unlock phone when connected to car

The goal: if my phone is connected to my car (and the car is turned on), unlock it automatically.
I keep a spare phone in my car connected to Android Auto (and hidden) so I don't have to keep plugging in my more expensive phone daily. Since it is also connected to my carrier and google accounts, I lock the phone. I have SmartUnlock set to keep the phone unlocked when bluetooth is connected to my car. This works for keeping the phone unlocked once unlocked, but it does not unlock the phone. I still have to do that manually with my fingerprint or passkey. Any idea how to automatically unlock the phone when connected to the car (and the car is on)? If my car is broken into and the phone is stolen I want the phone to remain locked. I am going to take the risk that if the keys are present (thus the car is on and the phone is connected to bluetooth & via cable), it's ok to unlock the phone automatically. If someone steals my car with the phone, then I'm screwed. But I'll take that risk.
Basically here is the problem with the built-in auto-unlock (from official instructions):
Important: When you don't use your device for 4 hours, and after it restarts, you'll need to unlock it.
Which means almost every time I use my car!
I've also tried google assistant voice unlock, but that only works if I don't have another lock method in place, which is not safe.
In case it matters, the spare phone is a Moto X4 with Oreo, not rooted. I'm on Google Project Fi, which allows multiple data-only SIMs on the same account. I have my voice SIM in the Android Auto phone and a data-only SIM in my main phone that is not directly supported by Project Fi.

Maybe something like this ?
AutomateIt Pro - Automate tasks on your Android ( cant post links)

j0k3r5 said:
Maybe something like this ?
AutomateIt Pro - Automate tasks on your Android ( cant post links)
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Sadly, unlocking the phone is not one of the supported actions of this app.

Did you consider a different approach? Like using AAGateway ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...droid-3-0-proxy-gateway-android-auto-t3813163 ) for wireless AA connection?
It's the solution I use. I have an S4 mini running CM13 permanently connected to the car, only running AAGateway. No Google account and no other apps.
Using Automate scripts on both master and slave so AA connection starts automatically when I enter the car.

Android can do this already. Trusted Devices. Bt unlocks your phone when the trusted Bt device connects.
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m00n61 said:
Did you consider a different approach? Like using AAGateway ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...droid-3-0-proxy-gateway-android-auto-t3813163 ) for wireless AA connection?
It's the solution I use. I have an S4 mini running CM13 permanently connected to the car, only running AAGateway. No Google account and no other apps.
Using Automate scripts on both master and slave so AA connection starts automatically when I enter the car.
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That's intriguing, but it doesn't solve everything I need in the spare phone.
1. The spare phone acts as a spare - if I forget or lose my phone, I can grab the spare phone from the car. Happens about once per month.
2. My main phone is not Project Fi compatible, and thus only works on LTE, no voice. I can use Hangouts Dialer to manually dial numbers for VoLTE, but that doesn't work through Android Auto. My cheap spare phone is Project Fi compatible and can dial voice via Android Auto.
3. My main phone is rooted and thus there is a thing or two it can't do - if I need to do those things, I can grab the spare phone (though admittedly playing PokemonGo is the only thing falling into that category thus far).
So the spare phone stays - I just need it to auto-unlock when I turn on the car.

Did you solve this? I have exactly the same problem. I need to have my phone unlock automatically when linked to my car bt. Not just stay unlocked, but actually unlock when connected.

pwvandeursen said:
Did you solve this? I have exactly the same problem. I need to have my phone unlock automatically when linked to my car bt. Not just stay unlocked, but actually unlock when connected.
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See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin

Mibuix0r said:
See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin
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I configured it nearly the same now and my keyboard is gone after the task was running.
Did you find a way to set it back after the tasks stopped?

WebBuddha said:
I configured it nearly the same now and my keyboard is gone after the task was running.
Did you find a way to set it back after the tasks stopped?
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No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.

Mibuix0r said:
No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.
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Thanks for your fast reply.
That has happend, it has cleared the seetings for my default input method.
Maybe it was an one time issue. I'll try it again later.

Mibuix0r said:
See the attached Tasker screenshots for how I do it. The swipe is just a swipe up to get to the password prompt screen and %PASSWORD is set as my unlock password. The steps you see there are triggered by BT Connected to my Mazda. You will need Tasker and the AutoInput plugin
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Thanks much! I will give this a try - once I use the car again often enough to keep the phone in it charged.

Mibuix0r said:
No sure what you mean? My keyboard never disappeared? Make sure you have a default input mode selected in your Android settings maybe, Tasker plugins can sometimes clear that.
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The problem stays. If the profile runs, tasker will be set as default input method.
Is it possible to create an new task if the bluetooth connection get lost?
I've tried it with "Input" + "Choose Input Method" but I have no glue what has to be entered there.

Question About Android auto

Does anyone have a workaround about how to connect androidauto on MIUI?
I plugin the cable only got a blackscreen (the phone screen freeze as well)

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Does anyone have a workaround about how to connect androidauto on MIUI?
I plugin the cable only got a blackscreen (the phone screen freeze as well)
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I don't get a black screen at all, instead I get an error message about "no installed apps work with this usb accessory".

deathernater said:
I don't get a black screen at all, instead I get an error message about "no installed apps work with this usb accessory".
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go to settings to allow android auto to autostart, you will get rid of the "no installed apps work with this usb accessory"

shijiav said:
go to settings to allow android auto to autostart, you will get rid of the "no installed apps work with this usb accessory"
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Just tried that didn't work same error. Even reinstalled to see. I know auto start if disabled can cause notification missed issues on other apps.

deathernater said:
Just tried that didn't work same error. Even reinstalled to see. I know auto start if disabled can cause notification missed issues on other apps.
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initially I have the same "no installed apps work with this usb accessory" as well, but all I do is opened up all the permission for android auto and other google services, and I got a black screen during connection.
What I notice is on CN version even if you allow it to auto-start, and the phone knows that(it pops a notice saying do you want to start android auto?) the android auto does not response to the start command it seems result in a black screen.

I'll try the permissions can you let me know which apps aside from Android Auto you flipped the permissions for? Let me try to get to the same spot as you.

deathernater said:
I'll try the permissions can you let me know which apps aside from Android Auto you flipped the permissions for? Let me try to get to the same spot as you.
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I spent quite a lot of time on this. There's something broken on the Chinise firmware. I also got the pop up and then phone freezes. I tried beta 12.5.2 and still the same issues. I don't know if 12.5.3 fixed this, since I move to the global ROM - where Android Auto works just fine.
Also, I tried many many apk versions of Android Auto with the same luck...

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I'll try the permissions can you let me know which apps aside from Android Auto you flipped the permissions for? Let me try to get to the same spot as you.
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I can`t remember tbh, maybe the google app and the android auto app, also I enabled fullscreen mode on those apps

YoSoyCarlosG said:
I spent quite a lot of time on this. There's something broken on the Chinise firmware. I also got the pop up and then phone freezes. I tried beta 12.5.2 and still the same issues. I don't know if 12.5.3 fixed this, since I move to the global ROM - where Android Auto works just fine.
Also, I tried many many apk versions of Android Auto with the same luck...
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I have encountered this in other phones like oneplus 8 pro CN version ROM, My guess is that all the CN ROM lacks a small crucial permission for android auto to start normally during the connection, but the thing is we don`t know what it is.

Well even without the Android Auto installed I get that USB message so I guess it didn't make a difference installed or not permission and what not. Something is just not registering with the phone.
What are the draw backs with a global rom and also does that enable smart lock? That is something else that seems to be missing from MIUI.

deathernater said:
Well even without the Android Auto installed I get that USB message so I guess it didn't make a difference installed or not permission and what not. Something is just not registering with the phone.
What are the draw backs with a global rom and also does that enable smart lock? That is something else that seems to be missing from MIUI.
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Android auto wont work on CN rom but on the EU rom it works just as you would expect, also wireless Auto works as well.

deathernater said:
I don't get a black screen at all, instead I get an error message about "no installed apps work with this usb accessory".
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I am facing the same issue. Did you find a resolution for it?

don't forget to use original usb c cable (only one works with me)

I faced a bunch of issues too.
I had to do two things:
1) change my crappy USB-c cable
2) go to apps, manage apps, search for Android auto, then clear settings for Android auto: first cache and then all.
After I did that, I was greeted by the android auto setup and all work out!
Hope this helps!
Ps: I'm on 12.5.4 global

same issue with K30 Ultra China rom. i got this issue after upgrading to MIUI 12.5.4 from 12.0.20. every worked in last ROM but appeared right after i upgraded to 12.5.4. Has anyone fixed it?

Without the Android Auto installed I get that USB message so I guess it didn't make a difference installed or not permission and what not. If your phone is facing issues or slowing down because of Android Auto then you can disable Android auto. That is something else that seems to be missing from MIUI.

I'm getting this issue with my Mi 10 Ultra (Chinese version) MIUI 12.5.6.0
Any practical fix so far (without the need to flash any other rom)? This is really annoying!

If anyone finds this on google, clearing play services data solved the issue for me.

shijiav said:
go to settings to allow android auto to autostart, you will get rid of the "no installed apps work with this usb accessory"
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Switch on Hotspot on your phone, connect your car to your network and update the system/check for updates. Once updates are complete, you should be able to connect

Android Auto for phone screens is final stopped?

Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?

For me the same...

Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).

I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .

triovi said:
...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
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Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
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I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
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I'll give it a try
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on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!

Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.

I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...

Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.

SOFO888 said:
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
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please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.

peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
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F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.

My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.

gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
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Goodbye.

gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
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Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
gdroid666 said:
maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....

xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
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Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA

mike.s said:
Goodbye.
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Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.

gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
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Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...

xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
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Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.

gdroid666 said:
I'm out.
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You keep saying that.