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- Idea: Want to play Mobile Games on my big HD TV (has no DLNA), only solution so far: MHL Cable, but this is a pain in the a s s you need a MHL Adapter, a Charging Cable and a 5 meter HDMI Cable. b*tch please. that's no fun.
- Problem: TV has no DLNA function where i could mirror the Mobile Phone screen, else it would be solved.
Is there a Solution?
my PC is connected with DVI-HDMI to the HD TV, so if i could make my PC work like a DLNA Receiver with VLC Player or something, maybe i could get the Xperia Z find my PC in the LAN as DLNA device and stream the Xperia Screen (Games, Videos) to the PC VLC Player and watch it on my TV then like i play games on my PC.
Is this possible and how ?
DLNA will not enable you to play games on your tv. It will allow the playback of media.
You need something to mirror the phone image. Like MirrorLink. Which isn't available yet.
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ok, that's what i thought in the first place.
i contacted the sony support today and they told me that i can not play games from my phone on my older sony bravia tv without a MHL Adapter Cable (Micro USB to HDMI), but with a newer DLAN TV (yes DLAN, he thought it is correct like this, in the end i told him it's called DLNA).
that's where my thoughts came from, that a pc may also be able to view the screen picture and act as a DLNA Receiver like the newer DLNA TVs.
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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Ambroos said:
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
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Yep and what do you think DLNA is??? Only streaming of various media types. So the answer is clearly NO. That was his question. And that is what I told him
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Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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Yes I wasn't referring to WIFI direct nor miracast, and neither were you in your quote stating about the over one second delay, well at least you didn't make that clear. I was referring to using wifi to mirror my screen on my Sony TV, and I state that quite clearly.
You ovbiously got out of the wrong side of the bed
I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
guy6136206 said:
I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
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Not unless you have internet access in your car.
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Not unless you have internet access in your car.
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It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
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well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
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I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
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I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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Do you know any other device that will do the job?
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well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
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Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
guy6136206 said:
Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
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You could just plug the phone into the HDMI port of the DVD player if the phone has one...
Mirroring still requires WiFi access for CCast and the phone and Internet to work.
I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
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I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
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Miracast doesn't require an internet connection, but it DOES require a Phone that is Miracast capable.
Anox gave you some choices but it would appear you need to get a Miracast dongle provided your Phone supports it.
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As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
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I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
guy6136206 said:
I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
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Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
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Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
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OK, tnx for all your help.
I will think about it.
Take a look at what was done here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/m3-navigation-screen-t2828038
I'm trying to cast my (Tab S2 9.7) screen to my Chromecast (v2). If I use the Google Cast app it sees my Chromecast, I choose the "cast screen/audio" option then get a warning that the device is not optimised, and when I continue nothing gets cast to the Chromecast - the tablet shows a "connecting to Chromecast" message which never goes away, and the TV/Chromecast screen remains blank.
If I use the Quick Connect option on the tablet it doesn't detect the Chromecast on the list of devices.
I'm running Android 6.0.1 (stock, unrooted).
Any ideas how I can cast to my Chromecast??
Google Cast works on my T810 using stock 6.0.1, so you must have a hardware problem. I'm assuming your connection to your router is OK from both your tablet and the Chromecast device because Google Cast sees the device. But to be sure, I'd re-install the Chromecast device on your network. If that fails, do you have another tablet you can use to test it? Or have you tried another HDMI port on the TV/Monitor? Or another TV? All I can say for sure is this isn't a general problem with MM on the T810 because I use it quite often.
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Google Cast works on my T810 using stock 6.0.1, so you must have a hardware problem. I'm assuming your connection to your router is OK from both your tablet and the Chromecast device because Google Cast sees the device. But to be sure, I'd re-install the Chromecast device on your network. If that fails, do you have another tablet you can use to test it? Or have you tried another HDMI port on the TV/Monitor? Or another TV? All I can say for sure is this isn't a general problem with MM on the T810 because I use it quite often.
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Mine's an SM-T815. Anyone manage to Chromecast from one of these?
The Chromecast/TV setup seems fine - can cast from my phone no problem. Are you casting using the Google Cast app or the "Quick Connect" Samsung utility?
itm said:
Mine's an SM-T815. Anyone manage to Chromecast from one of these?
The Chromecast/TV setup seems fine - can cast from my phone no problem. Are you casting using the Google Cast app or the "Quick Connect" Samsung utility?
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Samsung's Quick Connect connects via Bluetooth to transfer files. Google Cast connects via your wifi network and that's what I use. There is also a way to cast without a Chromecast device but I think that only works with Samsung Smart TVs.
lewmur said:
Samsung's Quick Connect connects via Bluetooth to transfer files. Google Cast connects via your wifi network and that's what I use. There is also a way to cast without a Chromecast device but I think that only works with Samsung Smart TVs.
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Eh? According to this, Quick Connect uses Bluetooth OR Wifi to connect to devices including Chromecasts:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1108273
itm said:
Eh? According to this, Quick Connect uses Bluetooth OR Wifi to connect to devices including Chromecasts:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1108273
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Maybe it's supposed to, but I just tried it and the only "nearby device" it found was "Samsung Cloud Print". Even with Bluetooth turned on. It doesn't even see my Desktop Computer, though it does show in my Bluetooth connections.
edit: I just had a chat with Samsung support and they are blaming Quick Connect not working on Google. Always the other guys fault.
lewmur said:
Maybe it's supposed to, but I just tried it and the only "nearby device" it found was "Samsung Cloud Print". Even with Bluetooth turned on. It doesn't even see my Desktop Computer, though it does show in my Bluetooth connections.
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Mine can see my Samsung Smart TV and Onkyo A/V receiver (both wifi-only devices), but not the Chromecast :0(
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Mine can see my Samsung Smart TV and Onkyo A/V receiver (both wifi-only devices), but not the Chromecast :0(
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The only thing I can think of is that maybe your Chromecast device is an older model?
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Maybe it's supposed to, but I just tried it and the only "nearby device" it found was "Samsung Cloud Print". Even with Bluetooth turned on. It doesn't even see my Desktop Computer, though it does show in my Bluetooth connections.
edit: I just had a chat with Samsung support and they are blaming Quick Connect not working on Google. Always the other guys fault.
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The only thing I can think of is that maybe your Chromecast device is an older model?
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Interesting....I tried casting to an old Chromecast v1 (in another room) and it worked fine. Then I tried casting to the Chromecast v2 again, and this time it worked. I hadn't tampered with the Chromecast v2 at all. So now it's working, but I have no idea why it wasn't working before....?????
Hi Guys, sorry to butt in here, but you may be able to help me with my new Tab S2 9.7 64G Lolipop 6.0 (I think its 6.0) that I got for my 70yo mum to play movies on her Sony 46" non smart tv with either the Google Chrome Cast or MiraCast. I purchased a few micro USB to HDMI MTH?2.0 adaptors, and non of them show an image on her screen. I don't want to go and buy the Samsung adaptor as its easier to change movies play and pause using VLC media player while sitting on the couch for her. Can any of you please tell me the easiest dongle I can buy to simply play movies wireless to the HDMI dongle in the back of the tv? Happy to go Google Chrome, but which model do I need? Thanks in advance guys!
hamishw said:
Hi Guys, sorry to butt in here, but you may be able to help me with my new Tab S2 9.7 64G Lolipop 6.0 (I think its 6.0) that I got for my 70yo mum to play movies on her Sony 46" non smart tv with either the Google Chrome Cast or MiraCast. I purchased a few micro USB to HDMI MTH?2.0 adaptors, and non of them show an image on her screen. I don't want to go and buy the Samsung adaptor as its easier to change movies play and pause using VLC media player while sitting on the couch for her. Can any of you please tell me the easiest dongle I can buy to simply play movies wireless to the HDMI dongle in the back of the tv? Happy to go Google Chrome, but which model do I need? Thanks in advance guys!
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The problem with HDMI/MHL dongles is that they are difficult to connect. Most of them will work if you have the patience to keep trying until the finally connect. But then, you are forced to leave your tablet within a few feet of the TV. I MUCH prefer a Chromecast dongle that plugs into the TV and uses your wifi to connect. Most TVs also have a USB port that you can use to power the dongle rather than having to plug a separate power adapter into a wall plug. Here is one on eBay that is only $17 whereas a "Google" branded one will cost about $40. You can even get cheaper ones if you are willing to ship from China.
The current software to mirror the tablet on the TV is "Google Home". But be warned, the picture is not "widescreen" or HD.
itm said:
I'm trying to cast my (Tab S2 9.7) screen to my Chromecast (v2). If I use the Google Cast app it sees my Chromecast, I choose the "cast screen/audio" option then get a warning that the device is not optimised, and when I continue nothing gets cast to the Chromecast - the tablet shows a "connecting to Chromecast" message which never goes away, and the TV/Chromecast screen remains blank.
If I use the Quick Connect option on the tablet it doesn't detect the Chromecast on the list of devices.
I'm running Android 6.0.1 (stock, unrooted).
Any ideas how I can cast to my Chromecast??
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Absolutely go for Chromecast, the easiest and most reliable way to cast from any Android device to the TV.
Do NOT buy a cheap chromecast copy from Ebay, they do not work properly.
Pretty much everywhere is selling CHROMECAST very cheap at the moment in Black Friday promo deals.
Get it now while you can as the price will go back to normal soon!
What is your location?
ashyx said:
Absolutely go for Chromecast, the easiest and most reliable way to cast from any Android device to the TV.
Do NOT buy a cheap chromecast copy from Ebay, they do not work properly.
Pretty much everywhere is selling CHROMECAST very cheap at the moment in Black Friday promo deals.
Get it now while you can as the price will go back to normal soon!
What is your location?
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Chromcast sounds like the go! Im in Perth - Western Australia.
If I update the VLC media player App will it work ok with Chromecast?
Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.
wolfnightmare said:
Hello, I´ve acquired recently an used Xperia Z1, I know I can use MHL to output video to my TV but I want to do that wirelessly. So I want to know before I buy a miracast adapter if the phone supports simultaneous screen mirroring (over wifi direct or miracast) and mantain a wifi internet connection.
An example of what I want to do is to screen mirror the phone screen on my tv while I stream a movie over WiFi and have the phone near my couch so I can pause, skip, etc... and control the movie with the phone in my hands instead of having to walk over to the phone mhl connected to the TV.
I ask this because I´ve read that the xperia Z can´t do it and couldn´t find if the Z1 suffers the same issue.
No native english speaker so please forgive the bad grammar. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.
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Yes, that's what called Miracast
I'm don't know about TV, but I test my Z1 to connect Lenovo projector, it's works really well with Miracast + streaming from Youtube :3
Just make sure, your TV support Z1 Miracast, since I need update Lenovo projector software, so I can connect it with my Z1.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply, I plan to use a EZcast adapter/dongle connected to my TV hdmi port, I would like to know if your Lenovo projector was connected to the internet too (maybe a Wi-Fi capable projector?) Or if you were using an adapter/dongle connected to the hdmi port in the projector. Thanks.
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My pleasure :3
Hmm, you can test that, since Google Cast use the same way :3
Eh, it didn't connect to wifi, because it's used by miracast, I'm afraid my projector didn't capable to do that ( I didn't test it ), but you can switch to connect to your router (if you need update the software or you can also use your router for streaming like phone> router> projector ).
I'm not using any adapter, since the projector used in built Miracast and wifi too.
You should test your adapter first, for compatible test :3
Hi guys, can you please link products do connect Mi 8 on a external Display?
If you have one, can you put links here?
I'm trying to find a way to use on my TV
The are usb type-c to hdmi converters.
Anyway, the maximum speed of the USB on this mobiles is really slow (30MB/s). It's theoretically able to provide a good video but in practice it's not.
mi 8 don't support mhl over usb c so it's not possible
I'm using mibox 3. it works good.
I am also interested in this subject. I do have a multimedia car stereo with HDMI in and I would like to mirror the MI8 to it (to watch movies or the navigation app).
I did understand that it doesn't support MHL or whatever BUT I was wondering if there is any other options (Displaylink as example) that is compatible to use in car (so that is not needed to be powered or that can be powered thru usb and that doesn't need WiFi).
Any help/idea?
m.zambonelli said:
I am also interested in this subject. I do have a multimedia car stereo with HDMI in and I would like to mirror the MI8 to it (to watch movies or the navigation app).
I did understand that it doesn't support MHL or whatever BUT I was wondering if there is any other options (Displaylink as example) that is compatible to use in car (so that is not needed to be powered or that can be powered thru usb and that doesn't need WiFi).
Any help/idea?
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Displaylink works over using USB
i have a displayplay laptop from sentio and that works.
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Displaylink works over using USB
i have a displayplay laptop from sentio and that works.
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It works with mi8? what laptop model is?
i use apowermirror installed on both PC and Cellphone (make search over google, it's easy), connect PC to the phone through USB or WIFI and have phone display on PC and viceversa, can make plenty of settings and quality... this way then i have the PC connected on my main high quality TV and there we go, no latency high quality phone on TV and i use it for gaming for example connect bluetooth gamepad to the phone, launch high quality android games such as life is strange and played with high experience on TV, this as usefull when i was sick and ill at home and had no good pc and no consoles.... was a very good experience.... the only downside is that apowermirror can transmit in "FULL SCREEN" only with paid VIP pro version.
m.zambonelli
Chromecast, anycast, Miracast.... Chromecast is the best, but none is perfect
Scrcpy - useful tool when my display was broken (touch worked)
https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy