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over and over again I face the fact, that some games and apps don't run as smooth as the seem to run on other devices, sometimes even less powerful than x1 (according tothe feedback of other users).
That's why I'm asking myself the question why it is that way.
Is the stock rom so ****ty or is there any other fundamental factors that affect the performance of my phone? Is there probably a guide for tuning the phone for its top performance, perhaps I missed something in configuration?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=SonyEricsson
here you can compare performance
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Rudegar said:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=SonyEricsson
here you can compare performance
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lol, if you compare the X2 with X1, then it is even slower!!!
(http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro&showhide=true&D1=SonyEricsson X1i XPERIA&D2=SonyEricsson X2 XPERIA Vulcan)
But I don't trust it anyways because how can integer and floating point calculation differ so much, if it is the exact same core (except the X2 core was clocked down)??
guess driver could cause that as the x1 they tested would of cause be offcial 6.1 rom
and the x2 the maybe prereleased 6.5
thanks but prolly any tweaks except xperia tweak that can help to get max of the device?
AFAIK, best thing you can do is to find fast rom.
About performance: compared to other windows mobile devices is not so slow. In some tests is even faster than HTC HD/TP2.(CLICK)
prollz you get me wrong. All that benchmarks are neat and nice, I'm just asking what can be actually done to configure X1 to get the maximum performance out of it.
also check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328
thanks, gonna try it out once more. But afair sd tune up isn't needed with the r3aa rom, is it?
Hey folks!
I'm really loving my Sony Xperia Z1 after all the mods I've installed, such as 4K and 120fps video, Pen Mod and even stereo loudspeaker support.
Now my phone is getting a little sluggish, and since I've always loved Stock Android I'm seriously thinking about putting Cyanogenmod on it. I've done this a lot on my previous Xperia S but I've always reverted back to the OEM's stock version, even though it may have been slower.
Mostly because whenever I choose a ROM, I lose more features than I'm getting. So right now if I were to put Cyanogenmod on the Z1, I already know the camera is going to be much worse. But I might be able to live with that. Now I only need to know if I can still have stereo loudspeaker support, and even 120fps slow motion video somehow. It should be possible...
So I'm hoping this thread can be a general thread on all differences between Sony's stock KitKat ROM and CM11.
If you're running CM11, please do tell me all about it. Do you prefer it to Sony's KitKat? Is there any functionality you're really missing? Are you even able to flash any Z1 mods? And is CM11 actually as fast as stock Android on the Nexus 5 with the same chipset for example?
Thanks a bunch in advance! I'll make sure to press the 'thanks' button if you can help me out here :angel:
Would like to have a first hand experience as well.
How I see it:
Good:
Light Rom
Xposed not needed, so ART works
Custom recovery with nandroid backup
AOSP keyboard
Bad:
More bugs to be expected
No stock camera app/quality
Currently the cons are kind of keeping me from doing it.
ugh the themes are so flawless! I wish I had the guts to do the switch, but I take too many pics =(
think you miss out on STAMINA mode as well?
Can anyone share the battery life on (the latest) Cyanogenmod?
Currently I'm getting 4 hours of screen on time on Stamina mode. Anything less would be insanely low, and anything higher would be interesting :cyclops:
Hermantje said:
Can anyone share the battery life on (the latest) Cyanogenmod?
Currently I'm getting 4 hours of screen on time on Stamina mode. Anything less would be insanely low, and anything higher would be interesting :cyclops:
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Tried Cyanogenmod 11 M9 and M10 for a month, and I'm officially back to Sony stock ROM.
Main reasons:
- Battery life, I get over 4 hours screen time using Sony stock ROM, vs 2 and a half hours using Cyanogenmod
- Camera, yes, definitely, even if Sony doesn't have perfect algorithms, the picture quality difference is abysmal between both ROM's.
- STAMINA mode, self explanatory.
- Updates, lately, Sony has improved the update cycle for the applications and OS, Z1 was the first non-Nexus device to get Kit Kat 4.4.4
luismedina said:
Tried Cyanogenmod 11 M9 and M10 for a month, and I'm officially back to Sony stock ROM.
Main reasons:
- Battery life, I get over 4 hours screen time using Sony stock ROM, vs 2 and a half hours using Cyanogenmod
- Camera, yes, definitely, even if Sony doesn't have perfect algorithms, the picture quality difference is abysmal between both ROM's.
- STAMINA mode, self explanatory.
- Updates, lately, Sony has improved the update cycle for the applications and OS, Z1 was the first non-Nexus device to get Kit Kat 4.4.4
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Thanks for the details!
This is why I recommend Sony to all my non-modding friends. The stock rom is actually usable and not significantly worse than AOSP
Currently with Xposed there is absolutely not a feature I am missing against CM.
cm :good:
have app2sd theme more free more speed more customize and here is my battery slimkat rom
As the Z2 has begun receiving the Marshmallow update, and it is quite clear now that the Z1 will not, is there any chance of a port of the Z2 rom over to the Z1? Is this even possible, or would we have to use CM as a base and port it that way?
I think that this is impossible becouse Z1 and Z2 have other parts inside.
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As the Z2 has begun receiving the Marshmallow update, and it is quite clear now that the Z1 will not, is there any chance of a port of the Z2 rom over to the Z1? Is this even possible, or would we have to use CM as a base and port it that way?
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There have only been scattered cases of OEM ROM ports between devices (TouchWiz and Sense). That's because it requires a great deal of time and patience and involves a lot of trial and error debugging. I don't think we have devs who have the time to focus on such a project. Even after a ROM boots, there is no guarantee of it being bug-free and it might not be possible to fix all the bugs. Most of the devs are focusing on making AOSP stable. So no, it won't happen
Sent from my Xperia Z1 (AOSP) using XDA Labs
Ok, thankyou for your replies
Aosp is better, because ram is very low on this phone and bloatware is alot
Gamer4Life said:
Aosp is better, because ram is very low on this phone and bloatware is alot
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Low RAM? Have we come to this already? The Xperia Z1 has 2GB of RAM. That's half the amount of RAM I had on my desktop to play games and multitask with. Let's clear up one thing: 2GB of RAM is plenty for a high-end Android device. If it's not, then there's something fundamentally wrong with the OS.
Anyway, I've seen quite a few things ported from the Z2 to the Z1, and as far as I know the devices are indeed very similar, except the chipset on the Z2 is a S801 instead of S800. Of course this difference will make porting a little more difficult than copy-pasting files, but it should be doable as far as I know. If, only, someone would dedicate their time to this. I'm sort of a programmer myself but I have zero experience with porting Android versions, so I'm afraid I can't help just yet (unless someone would point me to a tutorial that perfectly describes how to port different firmware versions ).
its a pity
Its clear you havent used many phones, and you are a noob user. Multitasking on the z1 is not as good as other phones with 2gb ram...
Gamer4Life said:
Its clear you havent used many phones, and you are a noob user. Multitasking on the z1 is not as good as other phones with 2gb ram...
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You phrased your opinion wrongly. You should've said: Multitasking is poor on stock ROM and not RAM is low, which is true. Of course with a heavy skin loaded with features, comes lag and multitasking issues. At least Sony is better than the crap Samsung releases.
When AOSP becomes stable, we can expect better performance.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 (AOSP) using XDA Labs
I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
I guess it depends on the ROM, kernel and settings. For example I have a gs2 running 4.4.4 custom rom that's more stable and with better performance than the stock gingerbread with which came out (also Samsung didn't update it to 4.4.4 because the hardware weren't enough to run 4.4.4), so draw your conclusion
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I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
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STOCK ROM vs CUSTOM ROM, everyone has different opinions, no one can say what will you like and what you should install. It's your choice for what to do.
If you do install stuff, experience them and decide what is better for you..
For STOCK,
It's developed by Lenovo/Moto officials and by TEAM, the reason why it's STOCK, means it will be most stable.
Many one prefer to use stock rom with root and few additional tweaks like custom kernel / deodexed / debloated. And doing such thing does not affects performance but removing unnecessary apps and stoping them to run in background helps in smooth and better battery performance.
There is XPOSED FRAMEWORK, which modifies device at large level, installing and modification to system such thing can only affects device performance in respective manner of how you use it...
For CUSTOM,
It's developed by TEAM, but maintained by individual device maintainers (which is less in number). That's reason custom roms are buggy at starting, but as time passes, many improvements are made and we will have best custom experience in our device.
Currently i am using AOSP-Extended and it's stable enough for me to use daily..
As i said in first line, everyone thinks different, and this is my thoughts...
androidman2018 said:
I had an older phone that had this problem. After I rooted it, it became slower and stuttered. Does rooting the Moto G5s Plus or installing a custom ROM have any impact on the performance?
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I AM using pixel experience with custom Kernel and works better than Stock rom
Related question, not really about slowing down though:
Anyone noticed a worse quality in the picture taken after unlocking their bootloader and using custom ROMs and kernels ?
I'm asking this cause Sony tends to have a weird policy that nice "goodies" are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked (X-Reality not working anymore, picture quality much worse especially in low light conditions/proprietary picture processing algorithm removed, DSEE HX (?) not working anymore and others)
Many thanks in advance
zacharias.maladroit said:
Related question, not really about slowing down though:
Anyone noticed a worse quality in the picture taken after unlocking their bootloader and using custom ROMs and kernels ?
I'm asking this cause Sony tends to have a weird policy that nice "goodies" are disabled when the bootloader is unlocked (X-Reality not working anymore, picture quality much worse especially in low light conditions/proprietary picture processing algorithm removed, DSEE HX (?) not working anymore and others)
Many thanks in advance
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I can see Sony doing that - they have no sense of humor!
But considering stock camera app is simply shyte, anything is better. Google camera does a far better job - under good conditions. Unfortunately those are the only conditions this sensor will take a decent pic in. The usual for a low end sensor/lens setup - decent light decent pics - bad light bad pics. Nothing will change that.
Hi,
Below are the GeekBench/AnTuTu/Basemark OS scores for the Titan's stock Lollipop ROM.
https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_2014-review-1139p5.php
I achieved SLIGHTLY better results (increased by 1-3%) with a debloated stock Marshmallow ROM and the interactive governor. Switching to the performance governor does not bring any noticeable advantage. In short—nothing to write home about, there is no need to post the results as they are nearly identical to those in GSM Arena's review.
Can you please run these benchmarks on AospExtended aka AEX, Pixel Experience, Resurrection Remix, AICP,and other Oreo ROMs, and share your scores?
Scores from those who have low-RAM property enabled or are running an Android One build of PE are of special interest.
Purpose: it would be great to gather some objective data on whether Oreo ROM performance is better or worse than performance for Lollipop/Marshmallow.
i have test on geekbench 4 the stock 5.0 vs my daily drive rom dirty unicorn 11.7 (7.1.2) and the result is vary similar the 5.0 won in dual core but the du 11.7 have batter single core score.
I don't think Nougat or Oreo will have the same results. They don't perform as fast as Lollipop or Marshmallow on Titan, but it's great to have newer OS running on old hardware with acceptable performance.
@Danilo-Sanchez
Danilo-Sanchez said:
I don't think Nougat or Oreo will have the same results. They don't perform as fast as Lollipop or Marshmallow on Titan, but it's great to have newer OS running on old hardware with acceptable performance.
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I tend to think that an Android Go ROM may come very close in terms of performance to a stock ROM because Android Go was made specifically for low-RAM and low-spec devices.
m00nlighter said:
@Danilo-Sanchez
I tend to think that an Android Go ROM may come very close in terms of performance to a stock ROM because Android Go was made specifically for low-RAM and low-spec devices.
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Maybe you're right, but I didn't test any Android Go ROM.
The Go version does not bring any benefit in term of performance, I even had the experience in using for a while the version of the Pixel Experience Go, and honestly it was not better in anything, still less in RAM management, because at that time it was beating of RAM free 370MB, and in the Go version did not reach 260MB free, being between 214 to 250MB, with the same applications installed, that is, at least in MotoG 2014, this was just theory.
Another thing to be mentioned is that it should not be based on what the graph shows on the recent screen, it is not a parameter of anything, it should be seen directly in running services, where you can see what you have really available.
Oshmar said:
The Go version does not bring any benefit in term of performance, I even had the experience in using for a while the version of the Pixel Experience Go, and honestly it was not better in anything, still less in RAM management, because at that time it was beating of RAM free 370MB, and in the Go version did not reach 260MB free, being between 214 to 250MB, with the same applications installed, that is, at least in MotoG 2014, this was just theory.
Another thing to be mentioned is that it should not be based on what the graph shows on the recent screen, it is not a parameter of anything, it should be seen directly in running services, where you can see what you have really available.
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I usually use RAM Truth, developed by one of XDA recognized developers
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.ramtruth
m00nlighter said:
I usually use RAM Truth, developed by one of XDA recognized developers
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.ramtruth
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It really simplifies having an app to go directly, particularly I have no problem with that, I spent a little extra time getting into settings.
But I'm going to check out this app, I only knew about it, it was going to go undetected by me.:good:
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Maybe you're right, but I didn't test any Android Go ROM.
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The most promising combination would be Android Go ROM plus Go versions of apps — they have a smaller storage/RAM footprint.
ROMs with Oreo is very low ,I AM using Lollipop