Is there any Exynos note 8 that will work on Verizon? I really like the unlocked dual sim one but it doesn't have an CDMA support, but would it run LTE only on Verizon? Will it do VoLTE on Verizon?
Are there any Exynos Note 8 that have the CDMA bands to be able to run on Verizon?
Also the reason I want the Exynos is so I can run ASOP on it or as close as I can anyway. Are there ASOP ROMs that maintain the unique features of the Note 8, IE all the S pen stuff.
loki993 said:
Is there any Exynos note 8 that will work on Verizon? I really like the unlocked dual sim one but it doesn't have an CDMA support, but would it run LTE only on Verizon? Will it do VoLTE on Verizon?
Are there any Exynos Note 8 that have the CDMA bands to be able to run on Verizon?
Also the reason I want the Exynos is so I can run ASOP on it or as close as I can anyway. Are there ASOP ROMs that maintain the unique features of the Note 8, IE all the S pen stuff.
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Note 8 really isn't the phone for you if you're looking for an AOSP ROM that retains all the S-Pen features.
Firstly, AOSP is far from d aily driver material on the S8/S8+, so I wouldn't expect a decent Note 8 build in the near future. It'll take a while.
Secondly, Verizon will work as LTE only on the Exynos Note 8 since it doesn't support any of the CDMA bands, VoLTE probably won't work due to the lack of a Verizon flashable CSC.
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Note 8 really isn't the phone for you if you're looking for an AOSP ROM that retains all the S-Pen features.
Firstly, AOSP is far from d aily driver material on the S8/S8+, so I wouldn't expect a decent Note 8 build in the near future. It'll take a while.
Secondly, Verizon will work as LTE only on the Exynos Note 8 since it doesn't support any of the CDMA bands, VoLTE probably won't work due to the lack of a Verizon flashable CSC.
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Kinda what I've gathered, flashing ASOP, even if it were stable, would cost me the main reason I would want the phone for.
So let's throw rooting out the window. Is there a dual SIM Snapdragon version that will work on Verizon? I have a work phone that runs on ATT and it would be nice to only have one phone to carry.
loki993 said:
Kinda what I've gathered, flashing ASOP, even if it were stable, would cost me the main reason I would want the phone for.
So let's throw rooting out the window. Is there a dual SIM Snapdragon version that will work on Verizon? I have a work phone that runs on ATT and it would be nice to only have one phone to carry.
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There is a Dual SIM version with the SD835 chip, but it's the Chinese variant.
Won't work with Verizon and probably won't work with AT&T either.
Sent from my SM-N950F
Well ****....
murtaza02 said:
There is a Dual SIM version with the SD835 chip, but it's the Chinese variant.
Won't work with Verizon and probably won't work with AT&T either.
Sent from my SM-N950F
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Same with the Hong Kong version? Why wont they the should have the required bands, Im more curious at this point
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Same with the Hong Kong version? Why wont they the should have the required bands, Im more curious at this point
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Well, technically they shouldn't have the required bands for th US, only for HK/China.
AT&T may work, with some tinkering, although I can't guarantee anything and Verizon is probably hopeless, the HK variant does support CDMA for China, not sure if it does for VZW.
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If the specs are to be believed they should have one CDMA band that verizon uses, whether or not it's the one they use for calls I don't know. Yeah sounds like a big risk on a thousand dollar phone.
This issue is my dilemma. I actually got a Hong Kong Note 8 primarily because for the same price of the item in US without taxes, I get Deep Sea Blue, 128gb and Dual Sim
On to the technical part - Verizon uses bands 2/4/13 for LTE. If you would look at Samsung Hong Kong Note 8 technical spec page, it lists
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
This is quite conflicting with a website's information (techwalls[dot]com/ samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences ) on Hong Kong/China units which states -
4G FDD LTE: LTE Cat16 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 29, 30)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
At any rate, I can always shift to T-Mobile if ever my phone won't work on Verizon. '^-^
ohohpatrick said:
This issue is my dilemma. I actually got a Hong Kong Note 8 primarily because for the same price of the item in US without taxes, I get Deep Sea Blue, 128gb and Dual Sim
On to the technical part - Verizon uses bands 2/4/13 for LTE. If you would look at Samsung Hong Kong Note 8 technical spec page, it lists
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
This is quite conflicting with a website's information (techwalls[dot]com/ samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences ) on Hong Kong/China units which states -
4G FDD LTE: LTE Cat16 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 29, 30)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
At any rate, I can always shift to T-Mobile if ever my phone won't work on Verizon. '^-^
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Essentially, if it indeed supports the required bands of your desired provider, it should work fine. If you end up deciding to root it I'm sure you can flash a Verizon CSC as well which may give you any missing features such as VoLTE, though I have absolutely no knowledge or experience with Verizon.
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Folks,
I have looked for this answer everywhere and do not seem to find an answer for it: Which version of the Note 4 Exynos works with T-Mobile LTE?
From a post I read, seems that the SM-N910C sold in Qatar works, but I am not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
G
Interesting...unless the Qatar version supports 1700MHz band....I'm don't think you'll fully be able to utilize the TM network.
This makes me curious now...
This is what I found, from XDA:
SM-N910T(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910T1(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
Now, for models with Exynos:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910H(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia-Pacific]------{WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
I have read somewhere here in XDA that the SM-N910H will not work in T-Mobile. Then is only:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
And found this on the N910C:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certified-devices/4648.html?view=terminal
E-UTRA FDD Band 1: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 2: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 3: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 4: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 5: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 7: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 8: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 20: Category : 4
And this on the N910K:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-N910KZKEKTC-spec
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900) B17 (700)
And this on the N910L:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/lgt/SM-N910LZKELUC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600)
And this on the N910S:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N910SZKESKC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600),B17(700)
And this on the SM-N910U:
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So, what do you think?
And finally, for T-Mobile's SM-N910T,
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
The authority on operating bands in the US is the FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
Also, when on call or in a low-signal area, hold the phone with your left hand. The diversity receiver (2nd antenna) is right beneath the power button.
ATnTdude said:
The authority on operating bands is the US FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
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Yup, thanks a lot ! I was getting to that conclusion... T-Mobile uses Band 4 (AWS 1700/2100 MHz), which you are right only the N910C and N910U have. And also true, as with other international phones like the Sony Z3 and others, the biggest regret will be Band 12. However, for what I have read, the regret there of not having Band 12 is WiFi calling and some better reception indoor like in buildings and such.
Cheers,
G.
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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Thank you very much.
I looked at that map but did not quite understood the results. So, can you please educate me on what really I might miss should I go missing the Band 12 for someone living on those areas you have mentioned above?
I am tired of waiting on the T-Mobile Note 4 availability and the N910U seems to be available on eBay, plus it has the Exynos.
Cheers,
What's so special about the Exynos processor over the 805? The 805 in my Note4 is a beast.
Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-exynos-5433-vs-snapdragon-805-395820/
The Exynos is faster. Got it.
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ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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How do you add wi-fi calling via root? My understanding is that no one has managed to extract wi-fi related software pieces from T-Mobile ROMs and successfully port anywhere. That's why I'm always stuck with TW ROMs.
Just get the sm-n910t. Why do you want Exynos version? Many app wont take advantage of that cpu.
Yup, I did. Was trying to find alternatives since the Tmobile version seems so scarce and difficult to get...but, finally got one. Cheerrs. G.
N910C VoLTE and international dialer questions.
For anyone that has the N910C running on T-Mobile, is VoLTE actived for you? When you make a call, does it stay on LTE or does it drop to 4G (HSPA) and then go back to LTE after you hang up.
Also, does the dialer include the video chat icon on the bottom left and is there a way to remove it since (I'm guessing) it doesn't work.
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
turoki said:
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
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Does HSPA (aws) 3G/4G (H+) work on your 910c on tmobile?
Also are you able to make calls & use data at the same time?
Edit: nevermind just read above post. Please disregard
Can anyone confirm for sure if they're able to surf the web or do any data related activity while on a call with their sm-n910c? I have ZERO data connectivity while on a call and as soon as the call hangs up, I instantly have my data back. Any help or confirmation is appreciated.
Where can I buy a international note 5 for germany?
Thanks
seems its available in singapore, anyknows where it can be bought online
Yes, it is available in Singapore... I bought mine in a samsung-shop on saturday. Not sure about online ordering.
Maybe you can try here...
http://www.expansys.com.sg/mobile-phones/brand/samsung/
check ur PM
Does anyone know which Version Supports german language and celluar bands?
Hey, I have not looked at asian note 5 yet, I will do so soon.
For Europe, you need gsm and lte 3, 7, and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz) [no26-800MHz # no20-800MHz! ...]
To use US phones for Europe, this is what i have come up with.
http://imgur.com/1yPhyFQ
I based that on what I found for SM-N920 A/V/P (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint), German/UK LTE network requirements, and the Galaxy S6 (SM-G920 A/V/P/F, F=Europe/Int). I guess the Note 5 is pretty much a S6 with larger screen and pen, so network capabilities should not differ too much between the S6 and the Note 5, hopefully.
I will get a AT&T device soon, hopefully only bootloader unlocked and just KNOX (don't care too much about warranty for US phone since I import it...). AT&T should work for most of Europe, or respectively for LTE 3, 7, and 20....
I see what I can find for the Asian Note 5 ('s) and msg back
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Haven't found much info on the SM-N920S / SM-N920K (Korea, Asia?), but based on the SM-G920S/K or Galaxy S6, versus the SM-G920F Europe, there are some minor differences, but I think these should work just fine in Europe as well... http://www.mobosdata.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-sm-g920f (k, s).
g/l
Ill also need to import one, since it wont come here to brazil...needs to be lte band 7...id like to buy it today if possible...
How you can use a Galaxy Note 5 from U.S in Europe? is the region block...
the at&t one, unlock via website, not straight forward potentially, but seems possible espc as non-customer - https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
but what bothers me is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641 - i guess will hold off the note 5 at&t for now, same with verizon, and sprint might not have full lte capabilities.
i might get the surface phone lol (if i can get full access to registry and group policies and have some way of turning all the phoning home off)...
Man, why you speack about Note with carriers?
On eBay there are a lot model FACTORY UNLOCKED, are they good? they have the region block if i buy them and i use in Italy?
I have the singapore one.
And it works just fine here in the netherlands.
At my home I don't have 4G.
Outside there is no problem.
I think the singapore one misses the 800 band.
4G is working only in the big cities here for now with this note 5.
Later this year the phone company release another bands.
800Mhz is to 1800 and 2600MHz LTE - loosely compared - as 5GHz Wifi is to 2.4GHz -- higher transfer speeds at the higher frequencies but shorter range and less signal through obstancles, generally speaking.
Would explain why inside you would not get a great LTE signal, if the 800MHz band is missing.... imho
You are right.
But the seller told me the 800 is there.
And now I know there is not a 800.
But here in the netherlands the provider also uses the 1800,but only in the big cities.
That's why the phone picks up 4G when I am outside.
yh, most european countries use all 800, 1800, and 2600, depending on region/area/whatnot...
just saying, without 800 capability, and when you happen to have 800 mast outside your area, you might not get signal, especially inside... ofc you can still have lte via 1800 and 2600, provided you are close enough and have a mast nearby, more likely in the cities (lots of data over short ranges)
Still I am happy with the note 5.
I am not saying anything about that
Apart from the obvious things everyone knows about vs the Note 4, it's a great looking piece of kit!
Also, Seller MIGHT have said 800 is there, as in 800MHz B26, but what you'd need in Europe is 800MHz-B20...
I saw it on ebay.
It's 800 B26.
My mistake.
I don't bother.
I read about Samsung region block and we can't put a different SIM respect the SIM of the contry model. Don't you have problem?
Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
It probably has more / less bands than you think. What's posted online doesn't actually reflect much about the actual phone. Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
In your dialer could you please type *#2263# and naivate to Band Selection. Post here what's in WCDMA and LTE.
On the S6 SM-G920I:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 1700, 850, 1900
LTE: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,40
on my N920I I have the following:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 850, 1900
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41
Let me know if you want something else too.
I bought this device to use on AT&T in the USA. So far it is working perfectly.
I am interested in buying US version (Snapdragon) of factory unlocked Note 8. However, it's full specs on network/radio bands are not listed yet even on Samsung official site.
I looked in full specs for Galaxy S8 unlocked (SM-G950UZKAXAA) vs carrier version such as Galaxy S8 for T-mobile (SM-G950UZKATMB), and noticed that carrier versions all listed support for 4G TDD LTE: B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500), while unlocked version does not. As the screenshots show.
So will Note 8 unlocked (Snapdradon) also be missing the 4G TDD LTE bands (B38, B39, B40, B41)?
Or maybe the specs listed on Samsung official site are not accurate and unlocked also supports those bands? Wishful thinking.
4G TDD LTE is used in some countries like China. So anyone with unlocked S8 on tmobile traveled to China can confirm if 4G data worked in China with t-mobile SIM?
If the unlocked phone only has the benefit to switch carriers in US but has limited band support internationally, then I will have to think twice.
Yeah I was trying to figure this out as well. So far, from other sites, I have seen mix messages. One site FrequencyCheck.com states that it does have those bands and other show them is missing...not sure which one is correct. Also, for other sites I have seen that the T-Mobile version also has 3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880) and the unlocked version has 3G CDMA: 800/1900. I really can not make heads or tails of this information....is it correct, who is wrong??? I called Samsung that they don't have the information yet, so I don't know either way. I'm leaning to go with the Unlocked by Samsung version, but I am in the same boat with regards to this matter.
Looks like it, i have a Unlocked verdion of the phone.
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So T-mobile uses bands 2,4,12,66 and 71 for LTE. The Exynos version supports all bands but 71. The non-US Snapdragon version from HK/China only supports bands 2,4 and 12. It lacks band 66 along with 71 per Samsung's site: https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/galaxy-s10/specs/
Any of you on this model and using T-mobile, do you have slow LTE speed or coverage issues?
VICosPhi said:
So T-mobile uses bands 2,4,12,66 and 71 for LTE. The Exynos version supports all bands but 71. The non-US Snapdragon version from HK/China only supports bands 2,4 and 12. It lacks band 66 along with 71 per Samsung's site: https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/galaxy-s10/specs/
Any of you on this model and using T-mobile, do you have slow LTE speed or coverage issues?
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What did you end up doing? Im on Tmobile also and want to have a phone with an unlocked bootloader so want to go with a exynos version but am unsure if I will miss the band 71, it does seem like it will really matter to me except if I go to Maine looking at maps.
ZTE Axon 30 Ultra review: A step in the right direction
Can ZTE make a flagship comeback and compete with the best? Find out more in this ZTE Axon 30 Ultra review.
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Looks pretty good, but no wireless charging, no IP rating, and the color balance between the 4 camera lenses is WAY off. Hopefully ZTE will fix that with an update.
Seems weird they sell this phone in the US while not really supporting US bands.
ZTE Axon 30 5G Specs - ZTE
ztedevices.com
Code:
5G: n1/n3/n28/n41/n78;
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
4×4MIMO
LTE: B41/1/3
Pretty much useless on VZW and AT&T, very limited on TMo (2,4,5,12,n41)
craznazn said:
Seems weird they sell this phone in the US while not really supporting US bands.
ZTE Axon 30 5G Specs - ZTE
ztedevices.com
Code:
5G: n1/n3/n28/n41/n78;
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
4×4MIMO
LTE: B41/1/3
Pretty much useless on VZW and AT&T, very limited on TMo (2,4,5,12,n41)
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I have T-Mobile. Not limited on 4G-LTE whatsoever. But yeah, only 1 5G band supported. No 5G in my area anyway so I don't care about that. AT&T will also work just fine.
xphyle1971 said:
I have T-Mobile. Not limited on 4G-LTE whatsoever. But yeah, only 1 5G band supported. No 5G in my area anyway so I don't care about that. AT&T will also work just fine.
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?? It's lacking b66 and b71. 71 might not be that important unless you are out in the country, but 66 is aws and is super important these days.
While I'm not that familiar with att, it's still missing 2 out of 5 bands
craznazn said:
?? It's lacking b66 and b71. 71 might not be that important unless you are out in the country, but 66 is aws and is super important these days.
While I'm not that familiar with att, it's still missing 2 out of 5 bands
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You're confused. It works on 5 out of 9 ATT 4G-LTE bands (all of the major ones), and it works on 4 out of 6 T-Mobile 4G-LTE bands (all the major ones).