Hi!
I have a B7610 Windows Mobile.
Sometimes it annoys me that I have to pull out my phone to change the song.
I had (still have) a PSP and it has a nice remote attached to the cable and I can change songs with it.
Is there such a device that could allow me to change songs in my Windows Mobile?
I use currently S2P, but could change it if there is a better player (for this remote control feature).
I have noticed that there is only 3 data types in the only input - headphone jack, so don't think it will be possible to add the remote there, so I think the only solution will be with Bluetooth. Also I always wanted wireless headphones...
Btw, it would be really nice if the bluetooth device would be just a device with a headphones jack, because I like my current headphones.
But my priority is to get this remote control feature!
i have a sony MW600, it alows me to change songs, and have a standard 3.5mm jack so you could still use your preferred headphones. downside is that the screen indication does not display songnames and i dont know why.
jamesfranco said:
I'm using BT330 model and sound quality is not really good. what is the best headphones for this phone at this moment?
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I hear that the best quality is from AKG and Senhizer. they make studio monitor headphones as well so they know how to create good product)
Hi,
I got used to Samsungs CarDock mode which allowed to charge the phone and play music through USB port directly to my car stereo (no BT,:crying: ). I used the iBolt XProDock ( here ) which is amazing.
Now I have the M8 and figured out that analog output is not on board. So I am looking for a solution:
a) A BT-receiver for my car audio, optimally charged with max 5.0 V via USB plug)
b) Any digital to analog converter (dac?), but not too much gadgets to be supplied with power and cables
c) A second earphone-cable ?
d) A software solution to get analog sound from USB?
Any suggestions?
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
Taknarosh said:
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
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Looks cool, but needs a car power outlet which I don't want to block with this gadget. Since I use a plantronics BT-heaset for calls no handsfree functionality is required. But thnx for this!
regalpimpin said:
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
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Found that already, but some people seem to have issues with that. Must check myself, thnx
CZ Eddie said:
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
charly-whiskey said:
Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
CZ Eddie said:
Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
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ok, nothing that botheres me.
I will try the BT-Solution.
Update 15.04.2014:
I bought a tiny BT-Receiver / (even with transmitter, which I don't need), here.
Works like a charme. Thnx for your advice!
Apt-x
APT-X cannot be used with just any device. In order to get full potential from apt-X you need to have AAC audio files which the HTC one m8 support and will give you much better sound then mp3. Also APT-X can only be used if the speakers support apt-X as well as the phone. If your phone supports apt-X but your speaker or stereo does not then the APT-X will not work. There are only a handful of speakers and stereos that support APT-X. But like I said APT-X supports audio at a higher bit-rate, then standard Bluetooth, and higher then a docked iPod. For good audio performance you need both a phone/player, and speaker/stereo that support APT-X on both ends, and you might want to load some songs from a CD in AAC format onto your computer to give you that CD quality sound, or buy some songs from HDtracks.com , to play using APT-X. But also the HTC one M8 should have gotten the lollipop 5.1 update which supports usb audio/host. So I would check and see if you have lollipop 5.1
I posted last month about this with no replies, so I figured I'd try again.
I have my usb settings at MTP, and when I connect my Fiio E7 I get music through it. Problem is, I can still control the volume from the phone. That tells me it is not bypassing the N8 DAC and amplifier. It should only be sending the digital signal to the external DAC which then goes to the E7's amp for volume control. Correct? That is how it works when connected to my laptop. And there is a clear difference between laptop with and without E7 and also a difference between laptop with E7 and N8 with E7. There is no difference when using E7 with N8 and just using the headphone jack.
Anyone figure a way to bypass internal DAC?
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I posted last month about this with no replies, so I figured I'd try again.
I have my usb settings at MTP, and when I connect my Fiio E7 I get music through it. Problem is, I can still control the volume from the phone. That tells me it is not bypassing the N8 DAC and amplifier. It should only be sending the digital signal to the external DAC which then goes to the E7's amp for volume control. Correct? That is how it works when connected to my laptop. And there is a clear difference between laptop with and without E7 and also a difference between laptop with E7 and N8 with E7. There is no difference when using E7 with N8 and just using the headphone jack.
Anyone figure a way to bypass internal DAC?
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The phone can recognize that you have a DAC connected, but that doesn't mean the app volume or OS volume controls are eliminated. It's all independent as far ask I know. I have the Fiio Q1, and when I connect (via USB OTG) it recognizes it as an audio output device, but my volume rocker still affects the volume. Even so, the sound quality is leaps and bounds higher than it is just plugging headphones into the phone.
Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Thanks for the reply, but I'm trying to use the Tidal app for streaming.
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The phone can recognize that you have a DAC connected, but that doesn't mean the app volume or OS volume controls are eliminated. It's all independent as far ask I know. I have the Fiio Q1, and when I connect (via USB OTG) it recognizes it as an audio output device, but my volume rocker still affects the volume. Even so, the sound quality is leaps and bounds higher than it is just plugging headphones into the phone.
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I verified with an electrical engineer/mechatronics professor I know and my thoughts were correct. It should only be passing the audio data, which will not have an effect on the volume. You can't change the volume on data. So it has to be going through the phone's DAC and amp for volume control to work.
Thanks for the reply though.
I'm not sure if it will help but have you tried to disable absolute volume control in the developer settings?
Coming from a Fiio E17K Alpen 2 I can tell you that they are a picky bunch and I was only able to get it work sometimes when using USB Audio Player Pro, which has Tidal integration btw. Have since upgraded to a Fiio Q1 MK2 and have no issues whatsoever. Keep in mind, the earlier Fiio USB AMP/DACs were never guaranteed to work on Android, hell not even the Q1 is but it works perfectly.
I'm not very knowledgeable about audio stuff but is there such thing as a DAC for BT headphones?
D_VIN_GADO said:
Coming from a Fiio E17K Alpen 2 I can tell you that they are a picky bunch and I was only able to get it work sometimes when using USB Audio Player Pro, which has Tidal integration btw. Have since upgraded to a Fiio Q1 MK2 and have no issues whatsoever. Keep in mind, the earlier Fiio USB AMP/DACs were never guaranteed to work on Android, hell not even the Q1 is but it works perfectly.
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I finally got a chance to try USB Audio Player Pro. It works perfectly. Thanks for your help.
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Make sure you're using an app that passes the correct info via usb to the DAC. Poweramp alpha, USB Audio Player, and HibyMusic all work (among a few others). Try one and see if that makes a difference.
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Thanks again for the help. I didn't try USB Audio Player until D_VIN_GADO pointed out that it has Tidal integrated.
lowridin67 said:
I finally got a chance to try USB Audio Player Pro. It works perfectly. Thanks for your help.
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Glad you got it worked out.
Hi Guys,
i am coming from an iPhone X and am now using a Note9. The Phone is absolutely great and i dont want to look back. Everything works fine, everything is really fluid just like it should be. But there is one annoying thing, that bothers me to hell: Bluetooth-Streaming Quality while Playing Music.
I am using several devices via Bluetooth: Bose Soundsport Free, Bose QC35II, Harman Kardon Go+Play and i am listening to Music in my Golf 7 via Bluetooth. Listening to music via the Bose Devices works really good. In the Developer Option, you can see that the Note 9 is using the AAC Codec, which the Bose do support. The Note 9 changes to AAC automatically.
When i am using the Harman Speaker and listening in my car, the Note 9 will stay at SBC (Standard Bluetooth Codec). This isnt really a problem for me, because the iPhone did it too. But the quality is worse on the Note 9 compared to the iPhone. On the Note 9, you can hear cracking noise in the Highs and the sound is overall not very good - the iPhone does this better with SBC (or stays with AAC even when the conneced device does not support it).
I had the same problem last year with my Oneplus 5. But with the OP5, i simply changed the Bluetooth Codec to always be APTX. This totally worked for me, even if the Bluetooth Device didnt support APTX. But on the Note 9, it will always change back to SBC, when i connect my Harman Speaker or my car.
I think it is just a bug. I didnt find a workaround. This is just a simple thing but it bothers me to hell... My mother's S9 does the same. It just doesnt save the setting.
The reason why i am making a thread is simple: Samsung does have a Samsung Members / Plus / Care (it depends where you are) App, where you can send in bugs, that you found.
Even if this bug doenst bother you, it would be very nice, if you can send in a request for changing this behaviour. That would help me (and maybe others), so that the Bluetooth Listening Experience will be as good as the Rest of the phone.
Thanks for the help.
If anyone knows a workaround for my problem - please let me know. At this stage, i cannot use my Harman Speaker und my Car Audio via Bluetooth.
the note 9 is an android device. So nothing is stopping you from 'fixing' it yourself. as you might not have realized yet, this is not a 'samsung' issue. you yourself said the onePlus also had the same issue.... its an issue of Android 8.
Anyways:
root and install the magisk module. If you are on a snapdragon device then are probably screwed. But sooner or later root or some other work around might arise...
good luck
It is definitly a Android Thing. But the fix for that Problem should be easy and is build into Android itself.
The Problem is, that Samsung does not save the codec, that i choose manually. The Oneplus 5 for example does save my setting. And with that Setting, all my Bluetooth Quality Issues would be solved.
So my goal for this thread is simple. It is difficult to motivate Samsung to Change this behaviour, if only one person needs that fix.
So it would be nice, if more people could report this behaviour to Samsung.
It autoswitches to the highest bluetooth codec the connected device negotiates that it can use. Very few autos connect to anything other than SBC. I have a different vehicle and do not experience any audio issues with the highs or lows using SBC. Your previous device was lying to you if you thought it was pushing AAC to a device that only accepts SBC.
Maybe try a different audio player and check the source file itself. I prefer "USB Audio player" because it doesn't alter flac/mp3/etc files and compress them further. Also check your dolby atmos settings.
Of course the phone does lie, if it does connect with APTX, even if the Speaker does support only SBC. But with that type of lying, it does work perfectly.
I am playing music via Spotify and the highest setting there.
In my car, i do have the upgraded Dynaudio System build in, and there i can hear the distortion.
With my Oneplus 5, i solved the problem by manually switching from SBC to APTX (even if my car does not Support APTX, it worked absolutely perfect)
That is the whole point... SBC on Android is not as good as on the iPhone. My iPhone X had no issues with my Harman Speaker, but my Note 9 and the Oneplus 5 do.. On the Oneplus i solved this by changing the Codec to Aptx.
I have a cheap Speaker (70 Euro) for my bathroom. This speaker does also connect via SBC, but doesnt have any problems with my Note. But this Speaker isnt nearly as good as the Harman Speaker or my car audio.
Do me a favor... Connect your SBC Speaker and play Still Got the Blues from Gary Moore.. It is really bad (the quality not the song).. The Bandwith is simply not enough with SBC.. but for some reason my iPhone X didnt had any Problems.. i think it just always used AAC even if the connected device didnt support it..
SuckOr said:
Of course the phone does lie, if it does connect with APTX, even if the Speaker does support only SBC. But with that type of lying, it does work perfectly.
I am playing music via Spotify and the highest setting there.
In my car, i do have the upgraded Dynaudio System build in, and there i can hear the distortion.
With my Oneplus 5, i solved the problem by manually switching from SBC to APTX (even if my car does not Support APTX, it worked absolutely perfect)
That is the whole point... SBC on Android is not as good as on the iPhone. My iPhone X had no issues with my Harman Speaker, but my Note 9 and the Oneplus 5 do.. On the Oneplus i solved this by changing the Codec to Aptx.
I have a cheap Speaker (70 Euro) for my bathroom. This speaker does also connect via SBC, but doesnt have any problems with my Note. But this Speaker isnt nearly as good as the Harman Speaker or my car audio.
Do me a favor... Connect your SBC Speaker and play Still Got the Blues from Gary Moore.. It is really bad (the quality not the song).. The Bandwith is simply not enough with SBC.. but for some reason my iPhone X didnt had any Problems.. i think it just always used AAC even if the connected device didnt support it..
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play an audio file via a player ie:
power amp. and see if there is also an issue.
might just be the streaming app you are using. it might be just streaming bad/low quality and BT codec is adapting to it.( check streaming app audio settings..)
think of it like trying to convert an 96kbbs mp3 to 320 kbps.
garbage in, garbage out. Except in this case android is simply not upmixing and using high quality codec because there is no need to because source is low.
in power amp audio options, there are advanced audio settings which can allow you to force certain audio qualities. So test a high quality audio file in that player and see if audio is good.
if it is then you know the streaming quality is simply not high enough... which is not suprising as it IS a stream... reason why i also never stream and taking advantage if the 512 gb version if the note 9. to me it is folly to expect high quality from streams.
The music i am playing is from spotify.. Locally saved onto the phone with the maxed out setting - this is 320Kbits. As is said, the Oneplus had no Problem with the same setting after i changed the Codec manually.
But just for the record, i just bought the Song "Still Got the Blues" in the FLAC-Format. I played it via Power AMP on my Harman Speaker - the result is absolutely the same as with Spotify. So the Music is not the Problem.
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The music i am playing is from spotify.. Locally saved onto the phone with the maxed out setting - this is 320Kbits. As is said, the Oneplus had no Problem with the same setting after i changed the Codec manually.
But just for the record, i just bought the Song "Still Got the Blues" in the FLAC-Format. I played it via Power AMP on my Harman Speaker - the result is absolutely the same as with Spotify. So the Music is not the Problem.
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did you go to power amp settings and adjust/enable? ...on second picture, go there and press the setting sprocket...multiple settings to adjust.
also if you go to android dev options and set higher quality BT settings and codecs, do they stick when playing audio?
No, if i want to change the Setting while playing, nothing happens. The Note does not allow it while using a Bluetooth Device.
If tried it with ( Power Amp ). Nothing changed. Still bad Quality.
Hi All,
I also want to join in on this discussion, just that I want to use LDAC as I use Sony WI1000X bluetooth headset. I have the same issue of it not sticking to LDAC and reverting back to AptX. So far here is my experience:
- If the headset is not connected, changing to LDAC, exiting from and then retuning to Developers menu would result the codec changing back to AptX
- If the headset is connected then change the codec to LDAC, the codec sticks. But once it is disconnected, it will revert back to AptX
- While the headset is connected, I can switch between codecs in the Dev menu while listening to music and can notice the difference in audio quality
Yeah, would be great if codec of choice can stick or at least switch automatically either by detection or preset. LDAC is awesome and I'm so happy that I can enjoy the codec without using Sony phones (not that they are bad, I just prefer my Note 9).
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Ok funny enough, as I post my message, I got curious about something. I went to bluetooth menu, click the gear icon on my paired Sony WI1000X, and there it is.... a slider to toggle the LDAC codec on/off.
It is greyed out, so I exit the menu, switched on my bluetooth, came back in that menu, switch LDAC on, checked Dev menu, it is also set to LDAC. Good.
Then I switched off my bluetooth, at this point the LDAC option in Dev menu should have reverted back to AptX.... but it stays in LDAC mode! This is great!
I guess my small inconvenience is now solved, maybe you can try the same for your AptX device.
Can anyone confirm whether AptX Adaptive is included or not (eg. from actually listening, it's still not listed in the Developer Options)? They have removed "Samsung HD" as a codec as well.
I have since my Galaxy S5 the Same Problem.
Galaxy S4
Galaxy S6
Galaxy S7
Galaxy Note 8
The Bluetooth quality is really a mess.
I do not have the Problem with my one plus 4. And also with any kind of iPhones
You can change this in basic Bluetooth settings
If your Bluetooth audio device supports codecs you should find the setting in your Bluetooth connection settings where you find the media audio and call audio settings under them there is the basic codec...
Found this on Reddit . Worked on my Sony wi 1000x
Solved it for note9
I had this problem with the amazing WF-1000XM3 and just couldn't get them to change to AAC.
So the solution was turning off the dual audio option in Bluetooth. I even tested this, and as soon as I turned on dual audio the codec switched back to sbc.
Settings>connections>Bluetooth>advanced>dual audio
And if it doesn't automatically switch over then, force it once through the developer options and it should stay like that thereafter.
I'm tossing my hat into the ring here, because this is maddening. I don't understand how we can all have 2-3 different user experiences on the same device.
OK, so, presumably, we're all on Andoid 9. Since the start of this thread, I imagine updates have played at least a minor role in user experience and menu options.
Here's where I'm at: I've never been able to successfully change AND have the settings found within Developer Options actually "stick". I can access "Bluetooth Audio Codec", and from there I can see SBC/AAC/aptX/LDAC/Scalable/All/Default as options. It does not matter which one I tap on, the result is the same: I can visibly confirm the change was made when selecting the codec I want and the screen goes back to the main Dev Options menu. If I hit the back button, and go right back into Dev Options, it has auto-reverted back to SBC. This is, of course, with no active BT devices connected for audio.
I recently traded in a car which did not support Android Auto, and therefore my only option was BT for audio streaming. When using this, the quality was fine, even subjectively good. However, now I've got a car whose stereo supports Android Auto, but only via USB (not BT). I can confirm that, via the display on the head unit of the infotainment system, it is using (or attempting to use) A2DP for streaming, which would indicate my phone should be using aptX or similar. Even so, the audio quality is absolute ****. If I connect my USB cable, and resume audio via Android Auto, the quality vastly improves. There is no reason why my phone or the BT connection would or should be operating under SBC or any kind of inferior BT codec when streaming. Mind you, all of this is done using the same player: PowerAmp Pro.
TL;DR - Has anyone found a way to forcibly allow all codecs, so that the highest quality codec is used on a per-device basis?
Just the same problem
Yes i have exactlly the same problem
Please Samsung...FIX THIS!!
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I have tried what KASHY27 said in his post and works perfectly!
Turn off dual audio in bluetooth settings and then click aptx in developers options
Thanks KASHY27!!
SuckOr said:
Hi Guys,
i am coming from an iPhone X and am now using a Note9. The Phone is absolutely great and i dont want to look back. Everything works fine, everything is really fluid just like it should be. But there is one annoying thing, that bothers me to hell: Bluetooth-Streaming Quality while Playing Music.
I am using several devices via Bluetooth: Bose Soundsport Free, Bose QC35II, Harman Kardon Go+Play and i am listening to Music in my Golf 7 via Bluetooth. Listening to music via the Bose Devices works really good. In the Developer Option, you can see that the Note 9 is using the AAC Codec, which the Bose do support. The Note 9 changes to AAC automatically.
When i am using the Harman Speaker and listening in my car, the Note 9 will stay at SBC (Standard Bluetooth Codec). This isnt really a problem for me, because the iPhone did it too. But the quality is worse on the Note 9 compared to the iPhone. On the Note 9, you can hear cracking noise in the Highs and the sound is overall not very good - the iPhone does this better with SBC (or stays with AAC even when the conneced device does not support it).
I had the same problem last year with my Oneplus 5. But with the OP5, i simply changed the Bluetooth Codec to always be APTX. This totally worked for me, even if the Bluetooth Device didnt support APTX. But on the Note 9, it will always change back to SBC, when i connect my Harman Speaker or my car.
I think it is just a bug. I didnt find a workaround. This is just a simple thing but it bothers me to hell... My mother's S9 does the same. It just doesnt save the setting.
The reason why i am making a thread is simple: Samsung does have a Samsung Members / Plus / Care (it depends where you are) App, where you can send in bugs, that you found.
Even if this bug doenst bother you, it would be very nice, if you can send in a request for changing this behaviour. That would help me (and maybe others), so that the Bluetooth Listening Experience will be as good as the Rest of the phone.
Thanks for the help.
If anyone knows a workaround for my problem - please let me know. At this stage, i cannot use my Harman Speaker und my Car Audio via Bluetooth.
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im using sony xm4 and samsung note 9. note9 keeps going back to bt aac codec. i was able to make it stay to ldac by setting [connecting 2 devices = off] in sony headphone app under system. it was noted in the app that ldac can not be used when this setting is enabled.
2022 and this is still not fixed. A shame android.