Seems once again Sony can't seem to get a stable phone. Shame as it offers so much potential with good design and great specs but failing on software again.
Constant app crashes, phone freezing,
Just goes to show you can't just chuck all the latest bits in a package and think it will work.
Going to have to return this unless there is a sudden fix in the next few days as I only have a 14 day change or mind.
That hasn't been my experience at all. I got the US phone and flashed the UK firmware. I haven't had any issues whatsoever. You should try a factory reset before returning the phone.
I have it for 2 weeks now, no freeze or reboots whatsoever... European Firmware here...
My phone was purchased from O2 in the UK. Don't think there is much bloat on there so don't think it's O2 that's screwed it up.
Phone is completely standard with just a handful of apps on it.
So far I have had numerous '' email has stopped working' to Google stopped working to music not working errors.
OK Google seems to hardly ever work. Almost seems like it can't hear the hot word.
I also think that many of the push services are being put to sleep which is why the battery life is so could as I often don't get notifications until I wake the phone yet the same accounts on my old s3 always come through first.
So far had one update come out for the phone. Don't know if it's the latest firmware though.
I can totally not agree with you.
Well I guess all I can do is try reset then but it's such a pain in the ar#e putting all your info back in again.
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Well I guess all I can do is try reset then but it's such a pain in the ar#e putting all your info back in again.
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Does the launcher you use rebuild your home screens after a reset? I still use Google Now Launcher, and after a reset, when I reinstall GNL, everything is put back in its proper place, even web browser page links.
I am using the US firmware, and have not experienced any of the problems you mention. You may have a defective unit. Then again, if you're not happy with the phone for other reasons (and there certainly are things that could be better), you certainly don't want to wait past the return date!
I'm running the UK firmware with the US OEM file to have Volte and fingerprint sensor on T-Mobile and has been rock solid since day one. I would reset.
Have reset the phone and just setting it back up.
Will see how it goes over the next few days.
One thing I did think that was odd previously when it was playing up was when it would crash and reset itself was that when it started up it was on the Google keyboard set up screen. I had installed the Google keyboard as I preferred it to SwiftKey. Maybe the issues were linked to that somehow.
Wow too many errors there... Probably a faulty unit... Or maybe u should do a software repair with Sony pc companion
Don't forget it runs Android Orea 8.0 by means a lot of third party apps may not fully compatible at this moment, consider not many phones running Oreo hence the app developers are not in hurry to tweak their app to run smooth in Oreo. That's what causes the occasional app crashes I believe.
OK so after the full reset and initial impressions are good. Seems smooth with no crashes. I'm back running nova launcher (previously instilled this as thought it might be linked) ive also not installed Google keyboard yet and giving SwiftKey a go.
Only issue that really remains is the one with the ambient sensor. Find my self having to switch the adaptive brightness off at night when using the phone as it jumps around. Need to then switch it back in on the day where it seems fine. Hopefully a fix comes for this soon.
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OK so after the full reset and initial impressions are good. Seems smooth with no crashes. I'm back running nova launcher (previously instilled this as thought it might be linked) ive also not installed Google keyboard yet and giving SwiftKey a go.
Only issue that really remains is the one with the ambient sensor. Find my self having to switch the adaptive brightness off at night when using the phone as it jumps around. Need to then switch it back in on the day where it seems fine. Hopefully a fix comes for this soon.
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On reddit someone write that he downloaded LUX https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite and everything was working much much better. Maybe later i will find the post. (https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/)
No single reboot or app crash for me.
The only thing that crashes on me on occasion is Google Photos, other than that, rock solid so far.
Just had an a 3rd party app crash but as someone mentioned above it might be because the developer has not updated yet for oreo???
Other than that been much better so far
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No single reboot or app crash for me.
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Same for me. 3 weeks i have got it 100% stable.:good:
Uhm ok I guess now it's my turn.
Today the "touch" went crazy. 2 times. Like for example keeping pressing recent button ? will result in multiple touches. Basically every touch is not a "pressing" touch. So I can't do swiping or other keep pressing relative touching. First time happened, a reboot fixed. Second time nothing worked. I have to SHUT DOWN THE PHONE AND WAIT A LITTLE BIT, then turn it on and everything was OK...
Is it just me?
P.s. UPDATE: I tried everything, safe mode, total reset, even software repair through PC companion...nothing. Its obviously a hardware problem, not software related. I returned this morning to assistance. They should give it back to me within a week...
My first week with XZ1C, 100% working, perfect, no reboot or other problems. One of the best phones I ever bought...
Phone's stable, no software/hardware issues. Working away reliably, battery consistently giving me expected results (ending day with 25%-50%, depending on use), connectivity perfect, performance smooth as butter.
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Hello!
TW stops working several times a day, I've haven't managed to narrow down the apps that might crash it (unless everything I use on the phone crashes it). It sometimes crashes in the home screen, in Chrome, in YouTube. The two apps I use the most are WhatsApp and Facebook, and it has crashed when I'm using them, too.
I have the habit of pressing the home button to leave an app, and the phone always takes a little bit to reload all the icons. I know TW lags and stutters for many, this is not a complaint but an observation. I used phase beam as the wallpaper before, so I changed it to a solid black picture. That hasn't helped.
My phone is not rooted, though processes unused are stopped in App Manager.
Any assistance and suggestion would be much appreciated. Thank you.
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BAD ASS NOTE 4
Hey guys,
I am facing the same issue, where TW crashes and I receive the message that TW has stopped working, however in my case it happens each time I reboot the phone. Once I OK the error message, TW reloads, and remains stable until I next reboot my baby, which I tend to do once a day, for good measure. This is not the end of the world, something I can live with, yet I do find it irritating that I cannot figure out what is causing this.
Anyone with a suggestion would be greatly appreciated. FYI, I am running stock at the moment.
Regards,
Raziel
I'd be tempted to odin to stock or flash firekat.
Raziel, I cleared TW cache and then wiped the cache partition earlier this afternoon. It seems TW hasn't crashed as often as it usually does, but it has crashed. It might remedy your problem, though, if you haven't tried this already. I'm avoiding resetting my phone.
If you rooted and tw goes crazy on you something went wrong. Delete everything you got. Turn of antivirus software. Download everything. Start by going back to stock then update then root then your good to go. If you start with a bad hicupp it will just keep getting worse.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
ChinWonder dude! Thanks a bunch for this suggestion... I cleared TW cache in Application Manager, then booted into Recovery and proceeded with wiping the cache partition. Honestly I feel like a bit of a noob right now LOL, I should have thought about this myself!! But hey thanks nevertheless, much obliged .
BACARDILIMON, as stated above by the OP, ChinWonder, as well as myself, in both cases the devices are not rooted. Thanks for the effort though . I'd like to add however that all of my previous and current Androids (S2, S3 and Nexus 7 2013) have been rooted, and in the last 2 cases, on day 1... hell I even made my own custom ROM for the S3 based on stock Bell 4.1.1 and stayed on it despite several available upgrades, I was getting such good performance and battery out of it, and FULL compatibility since I used a firmware base from my carrier, which is not the case for most custom ROMs found here, since none of them (or close to) are using Bell, but AT&T in most cases. From my experiences, I was always getting issues receiving voicemail notifications when using those. Long story short, I have been on the flashing bandwagon for a few years now, and tweaking the hell out of all my devices up to now, but this time, I feel this is the perfect (ok nothing is perfect) smartphone for me, as is, stock, and it performs like no other device I've had until now, and battery is just incredible!! getting regularly well over a day of charge, mostly average 36 hours, with 6 to 8 hours screen on time!!! WOW!!! seriously for the time being, I don't feel I want to root and flash and all that jazz, but instead I just want to enjoy this beast, the way Samsung thought of it, for a little while.
Again ChinWonder, thanks!
Raz
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
Just as a follow up question, would the 'turn Doze off' option help with this? Surely I shouldn't have to do this though?
Am I the only one having this issue? That would suck. Even so, would anybody more adept at these things than me like to have a guess at solving the issue.
IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
Greedyfly said:
Hi all,
Can anyone help with this issue. I can see no long discussion about it which seems to suggest it's either rare (not great) or something I am doing (probably).
My WiFi status appears to be fine throughout the day, when in regular use. I have no speed issues (connection speeds as expected for my home internet), no random drops or on/off switches and no seeming battery drain. I have all additional services on (Bluetooth, location and NFC as I want the phone to be fully functional at all times and not just 'look nice') and despite this I get what I would expect in battery life (c. 6 hrs screen on time). YET, amongst a few other problems (what is the slider customisation about - awful!) the one I can't fathom is this:
My WiFi switches off over night presumably when the phone goes into deep sleep. I have gone into the advanced settings and set it to 'Always on' but this doesn't seem to keep it 'always on'. I wake up in the morning and it is off. I was running some Tasker profiles (which seem to make little difference given the slider issue noted above) but actually my WiFi isn't one off the Tasks effected by a night time profile.
Any help would be appreciated.
AS a secondary question, I switched my VPN over to Canada as suggested and was provided with the Nougat update. I haven't yet tried it but was wondering if there are any bugs that I should consider before switching over given I am 4 days into owning this phone and still haven't ironed out certain things in Marshmallow.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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This happens when people is crying about updates every day. Then, when the updates are available, they update it in the first minute and again, they start crying, that they encounter bugs and stuff that doesnt work as it should, even if they dont have any idea how to revert their OS to the previous working one. People should learn how to be patient and enjoy their phones without being so greedy about updates.
Just sit tight, enjoy your phone, READ forums about latest updates and the problems encountered on that specific update ( since its still a beta update, and an early one , called Beta 1 ). If they seem to be fine with those issue, ONLY then should update to the latest one.
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I haven't 'cried' about anything, pal, so keep your unhelpful comments to yourself or help. Don't middle ground-it by offering your own personal, and incorrect, opinions.
I hadn't upgraded anything, I was running stock OS and stock marshmallow, so I had literally done nothing to my device other than switch it on and download the same apps I've been using for years.
I've also rooted several devices in the past with no issues and chime in when I can to help, but I'm not a dev and there are far more technologically gifted individuals operating in this forum which is why I sought help here... Not that I got much from you. But I'm more than capable of reading release notes and making sure I can revert backwards before installing anything.
Now to anyone still here, and with the same issue, it appears that carrying out the update to Nougat, re-adding my WiFi networks and clearing system cache solved the problem or at least for the first night. Should this change I'll update here.
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IV had agresive dose mode on and haven't had any wifi problems but I am on 4.0.1 so might want to just update it as it's really stable and I haven't had any issue except having to reconfigure the APN settings. PS if you do update reset you phone after as some people have said it helps with the new file system.
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Hi Iso, thank you for your response, I hadn't seen this until now.
The upgrade to 4.0.1 does appear to have done the trick somewhat as it stayed on overnight without issue. I did notice it wasn't on a little later this morning but I am giving the device the benefit of the doubt on that one as I have been messing about with certain things and it's possible I or a profile in tasker switched it off.
As an aside do you recommend any other potential fixes, just to be on the safe side.
Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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Did you factory reset after upgrading? Other than that it's probably a app you have I hear Facebook is really bad at battery
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I didn't factory reset, only Cache wipe after the upgrade, and as it seems ok so far, I am reluctant to factory reset the device as it took so long to set up in the first instance.
Should it start becoming an issue again I'll try it but for now...
Also I know there are backup options though I haven't found one that works flawlessly which gives me the confidence to explore this avenue just yet.
You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
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You might have to because in nuogat they optimized the file system and in order to get the new one you have to factory reset not 100% sure it affects battery life but it really affects performance, PS also try turning off gestures, ambient display and pocket mode
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Are you sure ISO? The UI has been updated and the already snappy OS feels snappier. Is there a way to tell for sure if it's required?
If so, any good recommendations for backup capability. I have used Helium to mixed results and I can't use Titanium as I have no root (and don't wish to).
Maybe not but it all elts fails
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.
Hi, after using the Mi 10 Ultra now for some weeks I will share some thoughts.
In short: The hardware (everything from charging to the cameras are simply Amazing) - however, I would not encourage anyone to use it as their "real" phone or phone used for work - at least not if things does not get better with firmware updates.
There are simply to many bugs or limitations that makes it impossible for me to be productive with the phone.
A few examples:
* Google assistant keeps be replaced by Xiaomis own assistant so I have to set it back to my preference several times a day. Not a dealbreaker but very annoying.
* Could not choose my own choice of launcher (Nova) but here I'm a bit grumpy because this turned out to be quite easily solvable (in case it does not give the same annoying behaviour as the assistant-thing)
* Does seem impossible to get RELIABLE notifications to the computer from SMS, Whatsapp etc, no matter what I do with both app specific settings (lik turn of battery optimizations, giving different permissions to the app, allouing autostart etc) AND putting general settings for restriction of mobil OFF, the phone keeps stopping data when display is off
* I have missed an enormeus amount of meetings because somehow the phone does not work with teams and intunes in a good way so all of a sudden I can not log on to intunes or onenote and has to spend 20 minutes on deletion of cach and app data, restarting the phon, sync of principples etc and then it works a few hours again. Completely useless for work. Also here I have gone trough and given permissions for almost everything to see if it helps (and it does not help). To be looked out of online-meetings several times a day because messing with the phone simply just does not work.
* Bluetooth is a trial and error thing when connectring different speakers and handsfrees, tok 3 days until I all of a sudden could pair my WF-1000XM3 with the phone for example. This was however a "one off" and now it works so I can live with that.
The things mentiones above that is connected to work is absolutely no problem on any other phones or tablets I have tried it on (Sony, Samsung, Huawei).
So for now I will put my SIM back in my old phone and use the Mi 10 Ultra as private phone and mainly like a good camera and videoeditor.
I realise it might (with the headline I posted) be posted in the wrong part of the forum.
I guess what I really was hoping for is some input to solutions of the problems I mention because I really WANT to be able to use the phone as my phone.
Install the .EU rom. It solved most of these issues for me:
+ Mi assistent is not in the rom, so Google's assistant will then stick. Overall, all google apps and services work way better when neatly made part of the eco system prior to setup.
+ notifications work out-of-the-box on this rom just about flawlessly. Had problems getting them immediately and on the lockscreen with the original Chinese rom, they work perfect with the EU rom.
+ Teams works fine here, as does contact sync, calander sync, location history etc.
Had no issues with bluetooth in either rom version. Don't use custom launchers, so can't comment on that.
Love this phone!
There's a lot of issues there. Some fixable, but overall it you want a solution... Flash the Xiaomi.eu rom..
Basically I got this phone myself realising it would be a project. Spending around 1k, on a foreign device not guaranteed to work in my country. I knew going in I would almost certainly want to change it from stock. I only mention now because it's possible to do something about it. It's silly to live with so many tiny software problems with such a majestic piece of hardware. To make your phone your daily go-to I think this phone requires a bit of extra work. I consider it a small tax for having the best phone there is.
Nice headphones btw I have the same ones. I cannot cope without them working
One more vote for xiaomi.eu ROM. It is basically the go-to ROM when purchasing a Xiaomi device.
A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
I agree.
I don't have any problems at all.
No ads.
Google assistant works perfect, mi assistant I removed through adb
No bluetooth issues aside from the metĂ data not showing on my car radio.
Pretty happy here.
The thing that could be better would be some notifications icons in the always on display
Can you point me to a guide to remove miui assistant?
My issues are the right swipe notification I would like to be google feed not Chinese.
Swipe up from bottom, same thing, Chinese
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A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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Hi, I have actually put all settings to "high", "allowed" or "off" (when it comes to powersaving), but getting notifications or not having apps closed down is still a lottery (although the changes has made the situation a bit better it has not solved the problem).
Has anyone of you that DO NOT have problems tried to use the phone for work with apps like "intunes" and "teams" (because this is the biggest problem to have to reinstall apps like teams, it feels like it must have been to go to war with a "mouth charger" back in the days. Parts of theese problems I have had with Huawei phones also but there it just took some tweaking to get rid of the problems).
AerationCheese said:
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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This phone is exclusive to the Chinese market and not built with the west in mind at all.
Anyone saying it should just walk out the box, well, unless they're living in China they're being naive and wrong. This is not a device for where we are, it is not supposed to be.
So in that mind I come back to xiaome.eu rom - why would one not take a step to make the phone work better than stock?
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Hi, I have actually put all settings to "high", "allowed" or "off" (when it comes to powersaving), but getting notifications or not having apps closed down is still a lottery (although the changes has made the situation a bit better it has not solved the problem).
Has anyone of you that DO NOT have problems tried to use the phone for work with apps like "intunes" and "teams" (because this is the biggest problem to have to reinstall apps like teams, it feels like it must have been to go to war with a "mouth charger" back in the days. Parts of theese problems I have had with Huawei phones also but there it just took some tweaking to get rid of the problems).
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In tune works fine with the EU ROM
If I want to flash the eu rom, can I back up my apps so I don't have to re enter all my log ins ?
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Sathelp said:
In tune works fine with the EU ROM
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Thanks, then I have to go with the EU rom, This thing of spending an hour a day missing meetings and having to reinstall apps, reapprove permissions etc to be able to log in just does not fly.
Guess step one for me then is to unlock the phone.
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If I want to flash the eu rom, can I back up my apps so I don't have to re enter all my log ins ?
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I used the xiaomi cloud for this and was delighted
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tusenkonstnar said:
Thanks, then I have to go with the EU rom, This thing of spending an hour a day missing meetings and having to reinstall apps, reapprove permissions etc to be able to log in just does not fly.
Guess step one for me then is to unlock the phone.
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Absolutely. Unlocking it will threaten to wipe your phone so go through with it as if you're gonna do it.
Because it needs to show you the countdown and then it's a week til you can do anything even if you wanted to
Appelsap said:
Install the .EU rom. It solved most of these issues for me:
+ Mi assistent is not in the rom, so Google's assistant will then stick. Overall, all google apps and services work way better when neatly made part of the eco system prior to setup.
+ notifications work out-of-the-box on this rom just about flawlessly. Had problems getting them immediately and on the lockscreen with the original Chinese rom, they work perfect with the EU rom.
+ Teams works fine here, as does contact sync, calander sync, location history etc.
Had no issues with bluetooth in either rom version. Don't use custom launchers, so can't comment on that.
Love this phone!
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how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
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how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
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Read the comments in this thread leading up to yours. It's explained multiple times.
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how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
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Very.
Hi. I was wondering how did you guys get the google pay to work? When I try to pay, miui card readee is trying to launch. And the assistant, "hey google" doesn't seem to work for me. I am waiting to unlock the bootloader, but made the phone to my liking 80%. Great device but needs some tweaking.
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AerationCheese said:
A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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Do you have google feed working with lawnchair?
Woke up in he morning, launcher went back to the system one, all 5he settings (widgets and folders) from lawnchair are gone. Cannot wait to get the xiaomi.eu firmware, because chinese is really bad.
boober78 said:
Woke up in he morning, launcher went back to the system one, all 5he settings (widgets and folders) from lawnchair are gone. Cannot wait to get the xiaomi.eu firmware, because chinese is really bad.
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I had this with Nova,I think I ended up.. wait for it.. setting every permission for Nova I could find
The EU ROM uses the same permission style but the reigns are off. I'm glad you know you need to move to that ROM!
Trust me, you don't get these problems with the EU ROM. It's Xiaomi security being a bit too zealous.
They don't officially let you use another launcher. Obviously you get around it by setting it in the launcher you want itself.. but yeah the EU ROM doesn't do this.
I've had soem performance issues from day one with this phone. It is the ATT version. I'm having issues with transition animations, either hanging or really slow and choppy. This does happen all lthe time though. After the update for March the phone ran really good , even though the battery seems to not last as long. Now in the last few days, couple of weeks after the update, I'm back to slow transistions. I've already factory reset the phone once since it's initial set up about a month ago. From the Samsung Members app it seems other people are having this issue. Has anyone worked with Samsung about this issue? Thanks
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I've had soem performance issues from day one with this phone. It is the ATT version. I'm having issues with transition animations, either hanging or really slow and choppy. This does happen all lthe time though. After the update for March the phone ran really good , even though the battery seems to not last as long. Now in the last few days, couple of weeks after the update, I'm back to slow transistions. I've already factory reset the phone once since it's initial set up about a month ago. From the Samsung Members app it seems other people are having this issue. Has anyone worked with Samsung about this issue? Thanks
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Do you have all of the Developer option animations, set to 0 and have "Reduce Animations" turned on under Settings/visibility enhancements?
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Do you have all of the Developer option animations, set to 0 and have "Reduce Animations" turned on under Settings/visibility enhancements?
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I don't enjoy having animations turned off. Takes away from the experience. I shouldn't have to do that to make this phone work.
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I don't enjoy having animations turned off. Takes away from the experience. I shouldn't have to do that to make this phone work.
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I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.
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I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.
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I'm just disappointed that a smartphone should do this new out of the box, especially these days. Top of the line smartphone shouldn't be doing this.
Do you mind adding a short screen recording to show us what the lag/choppiness looks like, how severe it is, and exactly where it happens? Without that information, we won't be able to give you too many potential solutions.
*Edit* - Granted, what @BigMosley had said works great! But if you still want the animations, just do the first step that he listed but change all of the animation timings to "0.5," which'll make em' twice as fast! That's what I've always used even though I feel that it is also nice without any animations. No animations might make my phone use during my work day more efficient . Oh, and to clear that up, I'm a tech guy and so I often use my phone for work shtuff (rd, administrative sites, status checks of different crappolas, etc).
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Do you mind adding a short screen recording to show us what the lag/choppiness looks like, how severe it is, and exactly where it happens? Without that information, we won't be able to give you too many potential solutions.
*Edit* - Granted, what @BigMosley had said works great! But if you still want the animations, just do the first step that he listed but change all of the animation timings to "0.5," which'll make em' twice as fast! That's what I've always used even though I feel that it is also nice without any animations. No animations might make my phone use during my work day more efficient . Oh, and to clear that up, I'm a tech guy and so I often use my phone for work shtuff (rd, administrative sites, status checks of different crappolas, etc).
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I understand, to each their own. I turn all of that stuff off which speeds up the device I cannot stand any sort of transition animations.
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I agree with this 100%. Animations were created 10 years ago to hide jank in Android - which doesn't exist anymore. especially phones that are this fast nowadays. Animations do nothing but slow the device down and increase battery consumption. It looks so clean, snappy and cutting edge when you take off animations completely.
I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.
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I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.
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It may be a 3rd party app(s) causing issues including AT&T and Samsung bloatware.
Did you do any firmware updates?
If you did any major ones, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise start by clearing the system cache and doing a hard reset.
If it's running warm with poor battery life something is sucking cpu cycles like a digital vampire. Not uncommon on AT&T variants... but fixable.
gadget069 said:
I'm trying to get video of the lag. The phone will start lagging, I'll start the screen recording, by then it stops lagging.
new development. still having intermittent lagging issues. transition animations turned down to .5x. the new thing happened tonight. on my way home for work I was charging my phone. I stopped at a gas station to pick up a couple of things. I left my phone in the car connected to the charger. my cigarette lighter has no power when the car is off. when I turned the car back on my phone started screaming at me to unplug it because it has detected moisture in the charging port! This phone has not had any water spilled on it, dropped in water ect. I haven't opened a support ticket yet. but after the continuing system lag, no this charging error. I just have a lemon for a phone. so disappointing.
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W O W ! ! !
my lord, i have been experiencing the same exact phone lag (s21 ultra ATT) all starting about one week ago after a recent firmware OTA download. It has been driving me mental. The entire feel of the phone is noticebly slow. Sometimes stalling even just on a simple Google Search.
So much so I am now doing a factory reset along w/a stock firmware flash to see if I can roll things back to normal.
If anyone else notes the same issues and or fixes, please do share.
(firmware on now G988USQU2AUB5 - LAGGING)
I know Google updated their app a few days ago and my phone went balistic. They issued an immediate patch with fixed the crashes but speed still suffers.
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W O W ! ! !
my lord, i have been experiencing the same exact phone lag (s21 ultra ATT) all starting about one week ago after a recent firmware OTA download. It has been driving me mental. The entire feel of the phone is noticebly slow. Sometimes stalling even just on a simple Google Search.
So much so I am now doing a factory reset along w/a stock firmware flash to see if I can roll things back to normal.
If anyone else notes the same issues and or fixes, please do share.
(firmware on now G988USQU2AUB5 - LAGGING)
I know Google updated their app a few days ago and my phone went balistic. They issued an immediate patch with fixed the crashes but speed still suffers.
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Doing firmware updates as soon as they're released is asking for trouble. At least wait a couple weeks to see if they are causing issues especially if your phone is running well.
Google system apk/app updates have a long history of screwing things up but at least you can easily roll them back to factory load versions.
My AT&T Note 10+ is still running on Pie and many of the Google and some of the Samsung apps are still the factory load versions. It runs fast and very stable. No forced reloads due to malware, ever.
If it is a carrier app that is causing this choppiness, then that would make a lot of sense. Since I have the factory unlocked version of the phone, mine didn't come with any carrier apps (and I also removed most of the built-in Samsung bloatware apps). Perhaps this is why I don't have this problem.
blackhawk said:
It may be a 3rd party app(s) causing issues including AT&T and Samsung bloatware.
Did you do any firmware updates?
If you did any major ones, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise start by clearing the system cache and doing a hard reset.
If it's running warm with poor battery life something is sucking cpu cycles like a digital vampire. Not uncommon on AT&T variants... but fixable.
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I've already factory reset the phone once, about 2 weeks after getting the phone because of the issues. It's been pretty much lagging since I've received the phone. The phone to it's usual update when I got the phone, took a large update this month, 450mb. Is hate to factory reset the phone again to try and fix this. The phone is not running hot or bad battery life.
How are you going to do a firmware flash? Sammobile did not have the att firmware on thier website
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How are you going to do a firmware flash? Sammobile did not have the att firmware on thier website
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You can take it to a Samsung Experience Center at Best Buys stateside. They can do more in depth diagnostics and can reflash it as well.
Let AT&T know of your fun... they are actively -partnered- with Samsung and are involved in all aspects of the phone's software/firmware.
No joke.
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You can take it to a Samsung Experience Center at Best Buys stateside. They can do more in depth diagnostics and can reflash it as well.
Let AT&T know of your fun... they are actively -partnered- with Samsung and are involved in all aspects of the phone's software/firmware.
No joke.
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I might trust BB to re-flash the phone. Half the time I speak with anyone I seem to know more than they do, that scares me. I'd be more comfortable flashing it myself.
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I might trust BB to re-flash the phone. Half the time I speak with anyone I seem to know more than they do, that scares me. I'd be more comfortable flashing it myself.
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Try contacting AT&T advanced tech support. They are better than Samsung tech support* which is worthless.
*a US Samsung rep may do better, SK reps being the worst
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Try contacting AT&T advanced tech support. They are better than Samsung tech support* which is worthless.
*a US Samsung rep may do better, SK reps being the worst
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How do I get a hold of them lol.
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How do I get a hold of them lol.
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Ask for them. Go luck with the AI