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I've had the One for a few months, and just got the N5.
There is no question the One has better screen, speakers, and front-facing camera, but I find the back camera on N5 better (contrary to numerous reviews), at least in part due to the One's purple tinting issue. Both devices are nearly identical in width with case on. So +1 to N5 for managing a larger screen.
Also, the N5 rarely heats up, even while in a case. I ran browsermark on both, and the N5 not only scored ~300 points higher, but was barely warm to the touch when the One, with its bareback bumper case on, was nice and toasty. This may be of high importance in terms of battery life as heat = wasted energy.
The next thing to test was the supposed improvements in music playback battery life via audio tunneling. I listen to a lot of music, so this was one of the biggest selling points for me.
Here's the set up:
1. Upload an album in FLAC to Google Music
2. Download on each phone (high quality, probably 320k?)
3. Turn off all radio and kill all non-essential background processes
4. Adjust the volume to be roughly the same (One is a little louder) using the same headphones
5. Plug in the same 3.5mm cable on each (I had two of those, but not two of the same headphones)
6. Let them play
Here are the results:
Time elapsed: 6.5hrs
Battery diff on N5: 14%; expected total play time: 46hrs
Battery diff on One: 16%; expected total play time: 40hrs
Well, to put it lightly, I was disappointed. 6 hours of total play time differential simple wouldn't be enough to sacrifice all those things I had stated above. That's when I suspected possible battery calibration issue(s).
I fully powered down the phones and back on, and the One's battery dropped by 2% while the N5 stayed the same. Huh?
I did that a few more times until the One's number "settled," i.e. stopped dropping so dramatically.
Battery diff at this point was 16% on N5 and a whopping 24% on the One. Now that's more like it.
So I decided to repeat the test, now that things seem settled. Here are the results of phase 2:
Time elapsed: 4.5hrs
Battery diff on N5: 8%; expected total play time: 56hrs
Battery diff on One: 12%; expected total play time: 37.5hrs
Not exactly twice the run time, but 50% more from the same capacity battery is nothing to scoff at. Notice the battery between the two tests are remarkably consistent: 16% vs 24% and 8% vs 12%.
I'm gonna be carrying the N5 around to see how the signal is, but given how much time I spend listening to music on my phone, I might be set for now.
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I've had the One for a few months, and just got the N5.
There is no question the One has better screen, speakers, and front-facing camera, but I find the back camera on N5 better (contrary to numerous reviews), at least in part due to the One's purple tinting issue. Both devices are nearly identical in width with case on. So +1 to N5 for managing a larger screen.
Also, the N5 rarely heats up, even while in a case. I ran browsermark on both, and the N5 not only scored ~300 points higher, but was barely warm to the touch when the One, with its bareback bumper case on, was nice and toasty. This may be of high importance in terms of battery life as heat = wasted energy.
The next thing to test was the supposed improvements in music playback battery life via audio tunneling. I listen to a lot of music, so this was one of the biggest selling points for me.
Here's the set up:
1. Upload an album in FLAC to Google Music
2. Download on each phone (high quality, probably 320k?)
3. Turn off all radio and kill all non-essential background processes
4. Adjust the volume to be roughly the same (One is a little louder) using the same headphones
5. Plug in the same 3.5mm cable on each (I had two of those, but not two of the same headphones)
6. Let them play
Here are the results:
Time elapsed: 6.5hrs
Battery diff on N5: 14%; expected total play time: 46hrs
Battery diff on One: 16%; expected total play time: 40hrs
Well, to put it lightly, I was disappointed. 6 hours of total play time differential simple wouldn't be enough to sacrifice all those things I had stated above. That's when I suspected possible battery calibration issue(s).
I fully powered down the phones and back on, and the One's battery dropped by 2% while the N5 stayed the same. Huh?
I did that a few more times until the One's number "settled," i.e. stopped dropping so dramatically.
Battery diff at this point was 16% on N5 and a whopping 24% on the One. Now that's more like it.
So I decided to repeat the test, now that things seem settled. Here are the results of phase 2:
Time elapsed: 4.5hrs
Battery diff on N5: 8%; expected total play time: 56hrs
Battery diff on One: 12%; expected total play time: 37.5hrs
Not exactly twice the run time, but 50% more from the same capacity battery is nothing to scoff at. Notice the battery between the two tests are remarkably consistent: 16% vs 24% and 8% vs 12%.
I'm gonna be carrying the N5 around to see how the signal is, but given how much time I spend listening to music on my phone, I might be set for now.
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How can you assume 56 hours of total playback without running it that long. Battery discharge isn't linear. If you go from 100% to 92%(8%) and that gets you 4.5 hours then 8% of a lower battery won't get you nearly as long. That means that going from like 30% to 22%(also 8%) won't get you the same 4.5 hours. You might get, just for example, 3.5 hours on 8%. Batteries discharge faster the more discharged they are. Look at the battery graph sometime and you will see that it gets steeper the closer the battery gets to being dead.
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How can you assume 56 hours of total playback without running it that long. Battery discharge isn't linear. If you go from 100% to 92%(8%) and that gets you 4.5 hours then 8% of a lower battery won't get you nearly as long. That means that going from like 30% to 22%(also 8%) won't get you the same 4.5 hours. You might get, just for example, 3.5 hours on 8%. Batteries discharge faster the more discharged they are. Look at the battery graph sometime and you will see that it gets steeper the closer the battery gets to being dead.
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I understand the discharge isn't linear, but the point of this test was not to get the playback time of one device, but rather to compare how the two devices perform. So I didn't see the need to meticulously take all of that into account rather than doing simple math.
On two separate occasions the N5 did 1.5x better, so I think this is a pretty good indication that I can play music longer on the N5 than I could on the One.
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I understand the discharge isn't linear, but the point of this test was not to get the playback time of one device, but rather to compare how the two devices perform. So I didn't see the need to meticulously take all of that into account rather than doing simple math.
On two separate occasions the N5 did 1.5x better, so I think this is a pretty good indication that I can play music longer on the N5 than I could on the One.
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It totally matters. You say that the Nexus 5 did 1.5x better but you calculated that based on a 4.5 and 6.5 hours. Because batteries discharge at a non-linear rate that claim of 1.5x longer is VERY inaccurate. It isn't an accurate and fair comparison.
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It totally matters. You say that the Nexus 5 did 1.5x better but you calculated that based on a 4.5 and 6.5 hours. Because batteries discharge at a non-linear rate that claim of 1.5x longer is VERY inaccurate. It isn't an accurate and fair comparison.
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You have a point, but in reality can you ACTUALLY test music playback without using your phone AT ALL for 20-30+ hours to drain the phone from 100% to 0% ? For someone like me who only has one phone, I can't even perform this test as I need to kill all my radios and I need incoming phone calls/messages/e-mail/regular stuff
And you have to give OP credit for trying to reduce the variables.
I'm thinking of buying the One and returning my N5. Lots of reasons..
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I'm thinking of buying the One and returning my N5. Lots of reasons..
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Lots of reasons? Like???
Both phones are basically the same size but the Nexus 5 has a bigger screen.
Both have a 2,300mAh battery but from the reports I've seen so far the Nexus 5 gets slightly better battery life than the One.
The Nexus 5 has a better camera. I've read lots of posts of people saying that the One camera suffers from a purplish tint on all the pictures it takes.
The Nexus 5 is infected with that Sense crap.
The only possible benefit i can see of the One is the better sounding speakers but unless you are one of those rude people that blasts everything out of their phone speakers and annoying everyone around you I don't see that to be much of a deal. No one wants to listen to your conversations, music, movies, etc. Get a pair of headphones.
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Lots of reasons? Like???
Both phones are basically the same size but the Nexus 5 has a bigger screen.
Both have a 2,300mAh battery but from the reports I've seen so far the Nexus 5 gets slightly better battery life than the One.
The Nexus 5 has a better camera. I've read lots of posts of people saying that the One camera suffers from a purplish tint on all the pictures it takes.
The Nexus 5 is infected with that Sense crap.
The only possible benefit i can see of the One is the better sounding speakers but unless you are one of those rude people that blasts everything out of their phone speakers and annoying everyone around you I don't see that to be much of a deal. No one wants to listen to your conversations, music, movies, etc. Get a pair of headphones.
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I have a one. Pictures in low light have issues, daylight pics came out very good. Focus and shutter speed on the one is instant. It's very slow on the N5, I hope they fix that.
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Just got a nexus 5 after a few hours of use... I'm leaning towards returning it and going back to my One. Miss the build quality and speakers. And isn't the one getting kit Kat in two months. I was able to get best buy to price match Google they weren't suppose to. For the price its an excellent phone thought.
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I think both phones are awesome. I actually sold my HTC One a month before the Nexus 5 came out. I think it just depends on user preference when it comes down to which phone is better. I think the heat issue on the HTC One was more prevalent because of the metal casing of the phone, and the Nexus 5 would have the same problem if it also had a metal body.
At the end of the day I love my Nexus 5, and I'm sure there will be future updates to fix the issues people are currently having.
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Just got a nexus 5 after a few hours of use... I'm leaning towards returning it and going back to my One. Miss the build quality and speakers. And isn't the one getting kit Kat in two months. I was able to get best buy to price match Google they weren't suppose to. For the price its an excellent phone thought.
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As long as your have the Google Play edition of the One I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea.
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It totally matters. You say that the Nexus 5 did 1.5x better but you calculated that based on a 4.5 and 6.5 hours. Because batteries discharge at a non-linear rate that claim of 1.5x longer is VERY inaccurate. It isn't an accurate and fair comparison.
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Inaccurate? Sure, but like (think) I made clear, I'm not about to do a full on research.
I also realized that I didn't mention this: I did not charge the battery between the two tests, which means I tested both mid-upper and low-mid echelons of battery level. And again, the difference is 1.5x for each case.
Non-linearity would have mattered more if one discharged faster at lower level than another, but the consistency of my results seem to say otherwise, i.e. N5 does better than the One when just looking at music playback.
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Just got a nexus 5 after a few hours of use... I'm leaning towards returning it and going back to my One. Miss the build quality and speakers. And isn't the one getting kit Kat in two months. I was able to get best buy to price match Google they weren't suppose to. For the price its an excellent phone thought.
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I'm probably gonna do another test when Kitkat is realeased for the Google Play edition. Not sure if the DSP in s600 supports audio tunneling though (or rather, if Google will support).
I have a red htc one and it dosent get hot but my silver onr did? I think it comes.down to user preference. I personally listen to alot of music at work and home. The speakerd are the best ever. The headphones are the best ive ever recieved with a phone. So good i dont use my jaybird freedoms anymore. Ive had 2 lines eligible for ugrade for a while now. Passed on note 3, passed on moto x, hate iphones, passed on nexus and will pass on LG2 when sprint gets it. My fiance has the S4 and loves it. Dont want anything else. I love my htc one. Dont want anything else. Dosent mean any are bad phones (all though i dont think ive seen a phone launched with as many issues the nexus 5) just everyone has certain things they like and dont. I.dont think the nexus is a bad purchase if you get it for $400 or less but i do think it would be stupid to waste an upgrade on one
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battery life in terms of music playback? .. It's a phone not an ipod.
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What about the inbuilt dac and sound quality + loudness?
Which one 'sounds' better?
Ive read the Nexus 5 is quite soft in comparison
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It should be common sense that the n5 should get better battery life than the One. Given the same battery capacity but the n5 has a more efficient CPU for power sipping and kit Kat is also optimized for battery and to use less resources. The n5 should win every time.
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Kit Kat has a new thing where 60 hours of play back is possible. It might be a software thing.
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Also, the N5 rarely heats up, even while in a case. I ran browsermark on both, and the N5 not only scored ~300 points higher, but was barely warm to the touch when the One, with its bareback bumper case on, was nice and toasty. This may be of high importance in terms of battery life as heat = wasted energy.
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The cpu temp is what's important -- the metal casing of the HTC One is a better conductor of heat, which means that it will actually help cool the cpu more than a plastic casing would.
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battery life in terms of music playback? .. It's a phone not an ipod.
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No it isn't - it's a multi function device with cellular capabilities!
As such, devices like the N5 have replaced a whole raft of devices for me, including music, video, exercise tracking, GPS, email, web, eReader, games etc.
Yes, I use it as a phone, but I use the other functions far more frequently. That being said, I won't compare battery life with a Nokia dumb phone from 10 Years ago because I do so much more than call and text with it.
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As usual for AnandTech reviews, there's a bunch of really useful (and OBJECTIVE) info to be found here. The sections on the display and battery life were particularly interesting in light of some of the horror stories I've seen in these forums, and the camera section shows that most of the problems can be fixed with software. Overall a really good and helpful read.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review
And just FYI, reports are all over the place this morning that 4.4.1 is releasing in the next few days with lots of camera tweaks for speed, autofocus, and contrast.
Screen is Interesting Indeed... . He mentions " best calibrated display iv seen so far in any Android handset"
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And just FYI, reports are all over the place this morning that 4.4.1 is releasing in the next few days with lots of camera tweaks for speed, autofocus, and contrast.
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Yep, I'm legitimately excited
Been waiting for this, thanks!
italia0101 said:
Screen is Interesting Indeed... . He mentions " best calibrated display iv seen so far in any Android handset"
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It's just like I've been saying...people are getting used to AMOLED displays to the point where they don't really even know what colors are supposed to look like anymore.
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It's just like I've been saying...people are getting used to AMOLED displays to the point where they don't really even know what colors are supposed to look like anymore.
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True that! I was updating my SGS2 the other day and the colours made me feel ill. Consider me a convert!
LCD is just so much easier on my eyes. AMOLED can look beautiful, but every time I switch back to LCD it feels relieving to my eyes... and obviously outdoors AMOLED is nothing compared to LCD.
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Screen is Interesting Indeed... . He mentions " best calibrated display iv seen so far in any Android handset"
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He did also mention that the black level(too bright) and contrast ratio(low as a result of bright blacks) are disappointing, hence why you hear plenty of people complaining the screen looks "washed out".
also prefer LCD
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He did also mention that the black level(too bright) and contrast ratio(low as a result of bright blacks) are disappointing, hence why you hear plenty of people complaining the screen looks "washed out".
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That's true. I have an anti-glare screen protector which washes it out even more ha ha. Easy on the eyes in the dark though!
It was interesting that Anandtech's battery tests show quite good battery life, better than most of the other flagships. That lends a lot of hope for all of the people who have experienced mixed or poor battery life.
The camera tests confirmed what I had been observing, that the Nexus 5 actually packs truly excellent camera sensor and lens. The pictures, when the software works right, is really color accurate, really good sharpness across and really good signal & chroma response. But sometimes it takes me many tries to get that picture I want... With the announcement of the software update coming, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it'll complete the package!
Very interesting too the ART testing, which helps explain why the Moto X runs so well.
Very good review, thanks ^^
Oddly impressive benchmarks and battery stats compared to what ppl. get here on stock, as if AT had a more refined Nexus 5 or a custom ROM.
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Oddly impressive benchmarks and battery stats compared to what ppl. get here on stock, as if AT had a more refined Nexus 5 or a custom ROM.
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The one battery life test AT didn't run is that for standby. From my own experience so far, that's the area where the N5 seems worse than the GNex.
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Theory said:
The one battery life test AT didn't run is that for standby. From my own experience so far, that's the area where the N5 seems worse than the GNex.
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That makes sense... but other reviews had their rundowns too incl. PhoneArena and GSM Arena via heavy browsing and got MUCH worse results, user tests here too... Same goes with benchmarks. AT is trustworthy, but they seem to have a much better Nexus 5 than everyone else except for slower charging (little over 2,5hrs) to everyone else (under 2hrs). They ARE the tech site to trust but they seem off the rails this time...
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That makes sense... but other reviews had their rundowns too incl. PhoneArena and GSM Arena via heavy browsing and got MUCH worse results, user tests here too... Same goes with benchmarks. AT is trustworthy, but they seem to have a much better Nexus 5 than everyone else except for slower charging (little over 2,5hrs) to everyone else (under 2hrs). They ARE the tech site to trust but they seem off the rails this time...
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I don't think there will be that much variation in different handsets. I think it's more likely Anandtech have a better standardised suite of tests than other sites.
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He did also mention that the black level(too bright) and contrast ratio(low as a result of bright blacks) are disappointing, hence why you hear plenty of people complaining the screen looks "washed out".
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I think blacks are bright only if you have full brightness, and contrast ratio is better if you put the brightness to 30-40 %, the screen is very good.
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That makes sense... but other reviews had their rundowns too incl. PhoneArena and GSM Arena via heavy browsing and got MUCH worse results, user tests here too... Same goes with benchmarks. AT is trustworthy, but they seem to have a much better Nexus 5 than everyone else except for slower charging (little over 2,5hrs) to everyone else (under 2hrs). They ARE the tech site to trust but they seem off the rails this time...
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That had popped into my head too as places such as GSM showed it only getting a max 6hours of wifi browsing vs the 9 or so from Anand.
But then Anand does legitimate PC style testing. Their comparisons use normalized brightness across all phones and you can be sure they receive no incentives from Google as it is much more of an iOS site these days both of which are reasons for the month long wait of the review.
Essentially most places have reviewed the phone "out of the box" with Auto brightness on or or maxed in their testing.
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That had popped into my head too as places such as GSM showed it only getting a max 6hours of wifi browsing vs the 9 or so from Anand.
But then Anand does legitimate PC style testing. Their comparisons use normalized brightness across all phones and you can be sure they receive no incentives from Google as it is much more of an iOS site these days both of which are reasons for the month long wait of the review.
Essentially most places have reviewed the phone "out of the box" with Auto brightness on or or maxed in their testing.
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How true, but there are 3 other sites that I came across that gave the screen the mosy accurate screen for Android. Phone Arena, and the other two were post of links to those reviews, but I don't remember the sites names. Most reviews of the phone were given with the phones brightness turned up to the highest settings. I keep my brightness to about 25% and the phone looks great. AnandTech always has unbiased reviews for Tech. The Battery instandby is very good unless you have RF cycling.
9 hours? someone should get them to dump the system and boot image from that phone.
I currently have a 6p and it´s not performing to full potential anymore, and i want to upgrade soon..... Did any of you go from 6p to opt3?
This phone performs 100 times better, so glad I sold the Nexus 6p to buy it.
Yes, my nexus6P died because he bootloop, I bought a oneplus3T, it was a great device, I like him.
Yes, I sold my RMA 6P because of battery issues. The OP3T is much, much faster than the 6P, it's like lightning compared to it. Battery life is also much better, I get around 6.30hrs SOT compared to the 4+on the 6P. The OP3T is let down by its screen, I find the 1080 pentile screen quite ugly and I can see it grainy compared to the 6P. I also find the 6P camera to be better especially in low light. So there are pluses and minuses to both phones.
I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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Pollie81 said:
I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.
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Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.
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If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.
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If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.
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That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.
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That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.
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Depends on the gpu behavior. It probably will affect battery drain because the GPU will work harder to get nice performance, it will affect performance in heavy tasks for the GPU, like heavy games. But its always affecting battery, not too much of course, but it does.
Also, I repeat, maybe the panel uses less power, that is a different thing.
I have both, but iam using oneplu3t more now borh have their profs and cons cam is no comperison on n6p much better fingerprint accuracy and placing on the back and stereo speakers goes to 6p
Speed bettery life screen is no issue here on 3t nothrotling build quality 6 gigs ram so here what ithink if the cam were good like 6p itwould be clear winner
I have both, i bought 1+ 3t recently and im using it as my daily driver, but im missing the stereo speakers and the camera performance, otherwise, the battery and phone performace is outstanding...i may return back to nexus 6p due to better development foundation
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I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.
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The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.
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I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.
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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.
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Well that kind of sucks but oh well.
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I got an exynos version (I think) and I am only able to get maximun 4 hours SOT. Lately it seems to have gotten even worse. I know this has already been discussed, but there seems No solution. Anyone been able to fix their battery life without compromising the phones cababilities?
This is my current battery stats
Maybe use more wifi and disable the bloatware. Here's my package disabler pro list
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I got an exynos version (I think) and I am only able to get maximun 4 hours SOT. Lately it seems to have gotten even worse. I know this has already been discussed, but there seems No solution. Anyone been able to fix their battery life without compromising the phones cababilities?
This is my current battery stats
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People will always on display, stop being surprised at bad battery life. Hate that thing. It's a good idea, but the drain is a joke
Langley24 said:
I got an exynos version (I think) and I am only able to get maximun 4 hours SOT. Lately it seems to have gotten even worse. I know this has already been discussed, but there seems No solution. Anyone been able to fix their battery life without compromising the phones cababilities?
This is my current battery stats
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Turn off always on display and developer options (except when you need it). Clear the cache through recovery once or twice a week.
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I have always on display enabled and it doesn't really drain that much. I can still easily get 6h SOT or 2 days of moderate use. I would go through your apps to see there isn't one that could be dodgey, draining in the background but hiding under system usage.
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Turn off always on display and developer options (except when you need it). Clear the cache through recovery once or twice a week.
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Developer Options? That's a new one for me.
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Developer Options? That's a new one for me.
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Yup, that affects your battery life, too.
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K-alz said:
Yup, that affects your battery life, too.
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Thanks. Wasn't aware of that.
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Limeybastard said:
Thanks. Wasn't aware of that.
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No problem.
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I'LL be getting my snapdragon midnight black today . Been reading here for a few weeks. Been sticking my nose round the s9 area of the forum but I will sure report back after a couple of days.
Using the s9, for gaming and social media, browsing and crap and get a tad over 4 hrs. Lets see with my habits if I can get 5 or 6 with the N9.
lawtq said:
People will always on display, stop being surprised at bad battery life. Hate that thing. It's a good idea, but the drain is a joke
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Lowered the brightness on my AOD and drain was reduced
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K-alz said:
Yup, that affects your battery life, too.
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How does unhiding the developer menu reduce battery life?
sefrcoko said:
How does unhiding the developer menu reduce battery life?
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Yes, I would very much be interested to learn this as well. I've never observed any issues with battery leaving it exposed.
sefrcoko said:
How does unhiding the developer menu reduce battery life?
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Developer options has extra processes and features that get activated when enabled. That's more processes in the background, hence why it's called developer options. Its meant only for "developers" for testing and extra features.
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I have AOD at maximum brightness 24/7 and still get more than 6 hours of SOT so I dont think it is a huge battery drain
ssgunner20 said:
I'LL be getting my snapdragon midnight black today . Been reading here for a few weeks. Been sticking my nose round the s9 area of the forum but I will sure report back after a couple of days.
Using the s9, for gaming and social media, browsing and crap and get a tad over 4 hrs. Lets see with my habits if I can get 5 or 6 with the N9.
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I have been on all the Google phones for the last 5 years. I have a black note 9 coming today. I decided to just switch it up. I'm def excited! Going to remove all the bloat tho
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I have been on all the Google phones for the last 5 years. I have a black note 9 coming today. I decided to just switch it up. I'm def excited! Going to remove all the bloat tho
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Got mine Mon afternoon. Been using since. So far still learning battery habits it says but battery life seems great. Will post my results in a few hrs. Got a bit of juice left. 24%.
ssgunner20 said:
Got mine Mon afternoon. Been using since. So far still learning battery habits it says but battery life seems great. Will post my results in a few hrs. Got a bit of juice left. 24%.
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Nice! The black looks awesome. I got the 6gb I don't play games. Got from Samsung and trading in my 2xl. Will be weird with having no root. I like flashing kernels and scripts here and there so that kinda sucks.
Did you get the 6 or 8 ram?
K-alz said:
Developer options has extra processes and features that get activated when enabled. That's more processes in the background, hence why it's called developer options. Its meant only for "developers" for testing and extra features.
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Never seen that mentioned anywhere here in 6 years on XDA...interesting, thanks! In my mind it's a hidden options menu, and we're not activating new options simply by unhiding it. Would be curious to know which specific processes are being activated and what type of impact they actually have on battery life... My bet is that it's very negligible.
sruel3216 said:
Nice! The black looks awesome. I got the 6gb I don't play games. Got from Samsung and trading in my 2xl. Will be weird with having no root. I like flashing kernels and scripts here and there so that kinda sucks.
Did you get the 6 or 8 ram?
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I got the 6. I think the 8 is overkill for me. It's great for peice of mind but with much last galaxies that were 4 and 64gb of storage I always had about 30gb of storage left.
Also, I think I saw somewhere on this forum that the 6 and 8 version offer almost no noticeable difference as far as speeds. So far I'm loving the 6. For sure signal reception is alot better. I'm coming from the s9, prior to that the S8+ and reception and signal at work was garbage. I have alpt more bars now on the N9 and have verified speeds with speed test app.
I do game a bit pubg for the most part. I will need to try Fortnite on here but I am using one of there free themes (red one) along with good lock and it's a perfect fit.
I have never rooted my phones, but I am surprised really is there no root yet for the N9? I need to spend hours to see all the content on this section for the N9.
I am thinking about switching phones from my OnePlus 9. I like my OP9, but it is very glitchy for what it is supposed to be and really the only thing that impresses me is the WarpCharge feature. I am very fond of smaller phones, such as the ZenFone 8. I haven't purchased an ASUS device at all before, not even a computer.
Who has it and do you think it is worth even considering? My daily use consists of social media, internet browsing, and watching videos. It is very rarely that I download a game and play it on mobile. I also prefer somewhat swift updates, but have been an avid Motorola user before and was perfectly fine with their update timings.
I'm also in the same boat however 'm using Nord now..not very much satisfied with it..Oneplus really lost its glory now a days . Also 'm looking for compact phones..ZF8 seems to be perfect..would like to hear from real users..
I'm on the same boat except I'm using Xiaomi Mi 9T. Zenfone 8 looks like a perfect phone but I heard the thermals are bad and it gets hot af, like really hot.
I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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Does it last at least around 6-8 hours?
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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How long does the battery last for you?
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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Awesome reply! I believe I will be purchasing it to replace my OP9.
Kemez said:
This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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When I said "not the best" I had two things in mind. First the backlight issue at 60 and 120 Hz. As for the second one, few days ago my Zf8 was on a desk together with my previous phone (Xperia 5 II). I think I had some web pages open on both at the time because the screens were mostly white. When I looked at them while standing and almost at a flat angle, I immediately noticed that the Xperia's screen was white as a sheet of paper, Zenfone's wasn't. I assumed the Xperia's screen can be viewed without distortion at wider angles.
I played one game which is locked at 30 FPS, CPU and GPU usage was 10-30%, temp stayed at 36-37C. Will try something more demanding and see if it can go over 40C during the weekend.
Edit: idle drain 0.5%/h, but Franco Kernel Manager shows 0.28% for some reason
Good topic to keep track of.
Right now i have a OnePlus 9 Pro and as i really like it I'm kind of done with big smartphones.
As i had the Pixel 5 before i was thinking about going back and then the ZenFone 8 came to my attention.
It's damn ugly but that's something that can be changed with a case or skin.
I'm in doubt about the camera's compared to the Pixel 5 but the reviews I've seen so far seems quite good, not the best but good and comparable to the OnePlus 9.
I also read that Asus's update policy is not very reliable.
Anyone can give their opinion about this parts?
Everything else about this phone seems really good!
After using the zenfone 8 and Pixel 5 I went for the Pixel 5 because of the insanely better battery life than on the zenfone 8
Zenfone 8 had a slightly better camera with gcam but overall I was more impressed with the Pixel 5
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in Poland the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in EU the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
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The wide camera sensor in ZF8 is the same as main in Pixel. At least I read that.
KaydenMcCurdyTech said:
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Undead_Son said:
Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
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Ah that explains it, thanks
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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That really riddles me. So there are non gaming phones that do not get hot in similar settings? Especially during summer?