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Hi fellas, I was wondering if it was worth going for the XT or wait for the XV to pop out? (in Belgium, they're still not out)
They're both kinda same except for screen sizes..
So, I wanna know, what are the pros & cons of those 2 devices.
Guess the XV is cheaper, right?
dugzino said:
Hi fellas, I was wondering if it was worth going for the XT or wait for the XV to pop out? (in Belgium, they're still not out)
They're both kinda same except for screen sizes..
So, I wanna know, what are the pros & cons of those 2 devices.
Guess the XV is cheaper, right?
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Get the Sony Xperia V. It's better than the Sony Xperia T. The Sony Xperia V has (but is not limited to) 4G and HSPA+, is IP57 certified - dust and water resistant, has a 342 ppi pixel density, has Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2, Bluetooth v4.0 and up to 18 h music play. All of those specs are better than the Sony Xperia T's specs.
V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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Ambroos said:
V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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What's your source for each of those statements?? P.S. What about for the UK?
If you want a large screen and more storage: The Xperia T is for you!
If you want waterproof and 4G: The Xperia V is for you!
There are some features on the XV that the XT doesn't have, (Bravia Engine 2, for example) however, these features are only on one and not the other because the XT was made earlier, they will be available through the Jelly Bean update.
If it makes your decision any easier: I chose the Xperia T!
I chose the Xperia V. I previously had the Xperia S.
I havent once looked back, and I'm EXTREMELY satisfied with the Xperia V.
The only minus with it is the storage. Its only slightly above 3GB of usable space on the V. But ofcourse, this can easily be fixed with a decent SD-Card and App2SD.
Even the spotify cache can be moved these days.
As stated above: Xperia V has 4G, water resist, Bravia Engine 2, 342 ppi, etc etc.
But it also have cons: Can not root (Bin4ary) with locked bootloader-, ports need to be opened/closed everytime for charging or using headphones, gets very hot when using 4G, not much development or interest yet by devs, Facebook bug (portrait rotate photo upload) and no leather case in the box.
Another con: the frontcam is utter ****.
Atleast compared to the one on the back. The main camera is amazing. Never seen a camera quite like it. But the one on the front.. not so much
the one on Xperia S is slightly better.
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As stated above: Xperia V has 4G, water resist, Bravia Engine 2, 342 ppi, etc etc.
But it also have cons: Can not root (Bin4ary) with locked bootloader-, ports need to be opened/closed everytime for charging or using headphones, gets very hot when using 4G, not much development or interest yet by devs, Facebook bug (portrait photo upload) and no leather case in the box.
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As for the cons: maybe at some point the devs will find a way of doing this - the point of XDA is that even if it takes ageeees, the devs eventually end up finding a way of doing something even if it's really difficult - in this case root would be the example. EDIT: Bootloader can be unlocked at: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ . How to Root and CWM with the latest 9.0.1.D.0.10 firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060815 . Flashable unsecure kernel:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024299 (I hope the development picks up as soon as the Xperia V is available globally - so far only Asia, Sweden and Russia have the Xperia V) ; can live with the port opening/closing if it means it's waterproof ; I know I will get some flak for this, but, I can also live with the fact that it gets hot with 4G ; the facebook bug is already being looked into (and will be addressed) by Sony ; and I am also not bothered about the lack of a leather case in the box - most phones don't include cases in the box anyway.
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As for the cons: maybe at some point the devs will find a way of doing this - the point of XDA is that even if it takes ageeees, the devs eventually end up finding a way of doing something even if it's really difficult - in this case root would be the example. EDIT: Bootloader can be unlocked at: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ . How to Root and CWM with the latest 9.0.1.D.0.10 firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060815 . Flashable unsecure kernel:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024299 (I hope the development picks up as soon as the Xperia V is available globally - so far only Asia, Sweden and Russia have the Xperia V) ; can live with the port opening/closing if it means it's waterproof ; I know I will get some flak for this, but, I can also live with the fact that it gets hot with 4G ; the facebook bug is already being looked into (and will be addressed) by Sony ; and I am also not bothered about the lack of a leather case in the box - most phones don't include cases in the box anyway.
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Some phones cant be bootloader unlocked. Some can.
Thats the way it is. Mine could luckily be unlocked.
I bought mine here in Norway. And yes, Norway also got this phone for sale.
So your sources on only Asia, Sweden and Russia would be pretty good about now. Have had it in my store since early Dec.
Edit: And CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is currently available and is beeing worked on. Lets not forget that Sony gives away phones to developers (ie. CM) so it can be developed fast and proper. CM10.1 has quite a few flaws ofcourse, but in a few weeks I'd bet that most of it would be fixed.
I'm currently using CM10.1, and I'm quite content except the fact that the camera is not there, and there are some issues with the sound and the GSM. But all in all its in a pretty decent state coming to the fact that its 4.2
dmbardal said:
Some phones cant be bootloader unlocked. Some can.
Thats the way it is. Mine could luckily be unlocked.
I bought mine here in Norway. And yes, Norway also got this phone for sale.
So your sources on only Asia, Sweden and Russia would be pretty good about now. Have had it in my store since early Dec.
Edit: And CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is currently available and is beeing worked on. Lets not forget that Sony gives away phones to developers (ie. CM) so it can be developed fast and proper. CM10.1 has quite a few flaws ofcourse, but in a few weeks I'd bet that most of it would be fixed.
I'm currently using CM10.1, and I'm quite content except the fact that the camera is not there, and there are some issues with the sound and the GSM. But all in all its in a pretty decent state coming to the fact that its 4.2
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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To be able to flash ROMs, that are not stock based you need unlocked bootloader.
You can flash ROMs with CWM that are stock based but you need root first.
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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Hehe
Yes I am. Its in Xperia V development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2025.
And yes, I have unlocked my bootloader. I did flash the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery before installing CM10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys!
Lots of pros and cons, after checking the prices tho, XV is way too expensive for those few more features it has over the XT.
Ambroos said:
V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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Thanks for those links mate. I'll still wait a bit more before making a move but, I think I'll root for the XT.
The only worth feature the XV has over the XT is the water/dust resistance.
But, if for this feature I have to pay 100€ more then, no way!
Between 323 and 342ppi, you won't see any difference, will you?
PS: Thank AvRS for moving the thread.
dugzino said:
Thanks for the replies guys!
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You're welcome, but purely clicking on thanks is enough!
dugzino said:
Between 323 and 342ppi, you won't see any difference, will you?
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Think you might, it's one of a few reasons why I'm going for the V rather than the T as soon as the V releases in the UK at some point during this month.
I'd pick Xperia V. I mean I would sacrifice those open/close flaps for each port for a more durable phone. As for the root, I'm just happy that the developers here do a fast and good job to get a phone rooted unlike the developers that takes about a year to get their iPod jailbroken. I mean seriously. I got my iPod since November 2012 and the jailbreak (they jailbroken an iPhone already) can take up to a year.
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This is one of the phone display is very good.at home I only appear Xperia TX, but it is not developed at XDA, really sad.
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tuananh1901 said:
This is one of the phone display is very good.at home I only appear Xperia TX, but it is not developed at XDA, really sad.
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please ask Xperia TX can use the room's cook Xperia T?
I agree, we need an exclusive Xperia TX subforum. MODS/ADMINS, I hope you are reading this!
Guys, if there's any, then you have already seen it here by now. Let's face it, most devs got T not the TX. Maybe in time, we will have more ROMs but not at the moment.
Anyways, we can still enjoy it by rooting this lovely phone.
Tapatalked from my TX
Well, there should still be a subsection. That will promote more rom development.
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Well, there should still be a subsection. That will promote more rom development.
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No it won't. The only thing that will promote more development is more developers owning the device. Putting the device in a separate subsection will hurt development since it's extremely similar to the T.
Entropy512 said:
No it won't. The only thing that will promote more development is more developers owning the device. Putting the device in a separate subsection will hurt development since it's extremely similar to the T.
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Yes, it will. Developers don't need to own a device to port for it. If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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Yes, it will. Developers don't need to own a device to port for it. If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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Concur.
Or at least put TX on the list of devices, as done with TL which is just an operator's version of TL with no difference in design and specs.
TX, at least, have other id code (lt29 vs lt30 for T), other backcover design, and as was figured out, other firmware stuff packed.
I'll give my vote for a separate TX subsection. I'm owning the TX device, and I want to see stuff for my device.
TX is produced for East European, CIS, and Asian markets, which are IMHO larger in size than USA with their T(L)
Regards
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+1 too
Some Firmware and Hardware are diffrence from T
but forum has only T TL and V
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If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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What am I missing here?.. I was sure FXP supported TX and went to https://sites.google.com/site/projectfreexperia/known-bugs/supported-device just now, it says
2012 Devices
Qualcomm MSM8960 (S4) - Blue
LT25i - V - tsubasa - CM10 work in progress
LT29i - TX - hyabusa - CM10 work in progress
LT30p - T - mint - CM10 work in progress
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So LT29i (TX, "hayabusa") is not the Xperia TX?
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As far as I know, FXP doesn't own XPeria TX. There are similarities to T but it is different. I have previously asked the Moderators and they were suppose to let the person in charge know but I guess their assumption was that Xperia T and TX are the same but I think instead of TL, they should add TX as TL is exact same as T with LTE and locked bootloader.
I think I read somewhere that developers that don't own a device can not publish their work unless being tested?
Any how, even tho I have moved to Xperia T I still think TX is different and little more recognition could help users here.
As a fan of custom ROMs particularly Cyanogen, I would say I just bought the wrong phone, LoL. I can only fault myself, hehehe. Should have waited for Z , that one sure got many people ticked their interest.
Tapatalked from my TX
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First of all, take it down a notch or two. No need to get so violent.
Second of all, unless I am sorely mistaken, most development on this forum is for the T and not the TL. So, your US argument is not only invalid but also uncalled for. The latter simply happens to work with most of the stuff for the T since the devs mod it just enough so it does work.
We might or might not add the section. As of yet, we do not see a real need for it. Lastly, as entropy said... A forum will not attract developers, a device will. As for the comment about the device not being needed. You are correct, for stock ROMs passed through a kitchen, there is very little risk involved and one could get away with no testing. However, real development like aosp requires the device since you need to new able to look at broken stuff when it happens. And let's not even touch the subject of recoveries, boot loaders, etc.
Now, tone it down a few pegs. If we add it, we'll add it and you will see it. For now, there are no plans for it.
Oh, and fuzalert? Consider this a friendly warning.
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I agree, we need an exclusive Xperia TX subforum. MODS/ADMINS, I hope you are reading this!
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I'm wondering too. Why not a xperia TX forum? This wonderfull phone is a Sony's flagship and a very interesting device. Hope we'll have more developpement for this in a separate forum.
Xperia TX rooted owner.
Nimche said:
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As far as I know, FXP doesn't own XPeria TX. There are similarities to T but it is different. I have previously asked the Moderators and they were suppose to let the person in charge know but I guess their assumption was that Xperia T and TX are the same but I think instead of TL, they should add TX as TL is exact same as T with LTE and locked bootloader.
I think I read somewhere that developers that don't own a device can not publish their work unless being tested?
Any how, even tho I have moved to Xperia T I still think TX is different and little more recognition could help users here.
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Uhmm.... they are the same exact phone with the following exceptions:
TX: 4.6" screen
T: 4.3" screen
TX: 15258 MiB ROM storage
T: 30518 MiB ROM storage
TX: has built in FM radio
TX: 1750 mAh battery
T: 1850 mAh battery
TX: Bluetooth 3.0
T: Bluetooth 4.0
TX: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
T: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
TX: 68.6 x 131 x 11.6 millimetres; 127 gramms
T: 67.3 x 129.4 x 10.45 millimetres; 139 gramms
Every other aspect of the device is exactly the same (processor, RAM, screen type, resolution, camera, etc). To say that one of them is better than the other would be silly. In fact, considering the larger capacity battery and HSPA+ connectivity... I would say that the T is a better device... but that is just my opinion (which I am keeping for myself). Devs go to the top devices normally because they know other devs will do the same. Availability plays a big role here as well. Getting devices from Asia is not a simple (or cheap) feat by any means. I hope this answers the question regarding the "TX is better than T" that was raised earlier in the thread.
Are there development threads for the TX that I may have missed anywhere in this site? Unless the answer is yes, I am not sure if this device will be given its own subforum.
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Uhmm.... they are the same exact phone with the following exceptions:
TX: 4.6" screen
T: 4.3" screen
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I am sure you mis-typed and Xperia T has 4.55" display and not 4.3"
TX design is different and to my eyes looks better.
and side note: I think TX was marketed in Easter Asian Countries and usually its much more expensive for Dev. to buy phone online instead of being available in their market.
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I am sure you mis-typed and Xperia T has 4.55" display and not 4.3"
TX design is different and to my eyes looks better.
and side note: I think TX was marketed in Easter Asian Countries and usually its much more expensive for Dev. to buy phone online instead of being available in their market.
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I grabbed those specs straight out of pdadb.net. There are a couple of versions of the T though so I guess it depends which one.... Still pretty much the same device
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Excuse my curiousness, but how many of those signing that petition/requesting the subforum are developers interested in the device?
Am just wondering.
Im looking forward to upgrade from my HTC One X, the reason being that its development has come to a dead-end, Almost no more custom ROMs, So Im thinking of buying either the Xperia Z or the Samsung Galaxy Note II. Both are identical devices, Im a custom ROM junkie and a device having active development is a must for me, and I plan on keeping this device for me for quite some time. Which device would you suggest? Note 2 or Xperia Z? Thanks.
I had the Note 2 and I sold it for my current Xperia Z. These phones are not similar bro. Just keep in mind that this phone has a completely different firmware atmosphere. Took me some time to get used to it. In regards to your question, I dont think it could be answered to well. We cant really predict future development. However, we DO know that official support from Sony is strong since its a rather popular device that will receive 4.4. The way I see it is if it is.getting 4.4 then it should have good support from devs now and in future. I would get the Z bro
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consider both features of each device and which suits you better , it is likely the xperia z will get 1 more update after kitkat and it would probally end from there with most devices officially .... i could be wrong as the android os and hardware requirements are becoming less needy so who knows we could see another 2 updates after kitkat .... my old phone the htc desire only really went up to froyo to the general public and gingerbread for the developer community officially however xda devs have supported the device up to kitkat and as you know this device has way lower memory and chip set (this is at least 3-4 updates after official updates ceased to be released)
Hey guys,
when do you expect Android Pie to be released for the XZ1C?
I know for a fact that they will prioritize the XZ2C and that XZ3C will probably be released on Pie so what do you think?
I think that they won't release Pie for XZ1C at all.
All hope in LineageOS
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There's not even any rumours of us getting 8.1, so it seems unlikely we'll be on the P list
Didgesteve said:
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There's not even any rumours of us getting 8.1, so it seems unlikely we'll be on the P list
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Seeing as the XZ1 range is less than a year old, I am pretty sure that we will get P. I don't see skipping 8.1 as an indicator, if Sony decides there isn't enough improvements over 8.0 that justify the effort, why bother?
Wouldn't hold my breath for a release before christmas though.
After beeing loyal to Sony since my Xperia X8 (Xperia T, Xperia Play, Z1c, Z3c, Z5c and now XZ1c) all I can do is to say: We wont get an offical release, no way.
I hope they give us the pie very soon, the xz1 it's the a flagship so they must don't forget about us. There's the xz2 and then xz1 so they should give the pie at same time like Google does
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After beeing loyal to Sony since my Xperia X8 (Xperia T, Xperia Play, Z1c, Z3c, Z5c and now XZ1c) all I can do is to say: We wont get an offical release, no way.
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My device history is very similar to yours (Xperia T, Z1C, Z3C, XZ1C), which is why I don't understand your reasoning. The Z1C for example was shipped with JB at launch, and received official KK and LP (both 5.0 and 5.1). The Z3C was released with KK and received updates to both LP and MM.
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My device history is very similar to yours (Xperia T, Z1C, Z3C, XZ1C), which is why I don't understand your reasoning. The Z1C for example was shipped with JB at launch, and received official KK and LP (both 5.0 and 5.1). The Z3C was released with KK and received updates to both LP and MM.
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XZ3 is in the pipeline, XZ2 is already released and XZ1 doesn't get too much attention in my opinion.
The only thing thats strange is that they keep releasing updates to the latest patch level. But I still wont believe that we'll get Pie until they really release it
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XZ3 is in the pipeline, XZ2 is already released and XZ1 doesn't get too much attention in my opinion.
The only thing thats strange is that they keep releasing updates to the latest patch level. But I still wont believe that we'll get Pie until they really release it
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I hope they give attention, it has top line specs and it was released with oreo
Saw this after Googling: https://www.androidauthority.com/so...et-software-upgrades-two-years-launch-834758/
I'm really hoping to get some mileage out of this phone but we'll see if Sony will support their premium customers.
LOL guys, of course we will get Android 9. Not getting it makes no sense. Sony provides always 2 major updates for Hi end devices.
All my past Xperia devices had at least 2 major OS updates. The exception being the Xperia SX, which only had 1. XZ1 series must at least have 1 major update.
Two major updates? So the XZ1C will get Android Q as well? Well that's good to hear
XZ1C has Project Treble support, so it's probably a lot easier for Sony to release a major update compared to pre-Treble phones, which from my experience generally enjoyed phenomenal upgrades compared to the competition. Well, the flagships at least, can't say the same for their mid-range models.
Anyway, I'm pretty optimistic that we'll get to P and beyond, but from what I've seen so far of 9.0... no thanks, not interested.
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Hey guys,
when do you expect Android Pie to be released for the XZ1C?
I know for a fact that they will prioritize the XZ2C and that XZ3C will probably be released on Pie so what do you think?
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Rooting my phone means I opted out of the obligatory updates.
My experience with updates of OS that are different from the one released with the phone is that they are clunky, power hungry amd sometimes broken.
Despite what Google promise with battery savings, it'll still end up thirstier than 8.
What are you talking about OP? We will deffo get Android Pie and probably Android 10 T (Toblerone or sthg)
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-phones-Android-9-Pie-update_id107683
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Yoooo, speak of the devil
https://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xz1-xz2-android-pie-894320/
Was getting Pie envy after seeing all these preview videos. Promising releases for next month is great :good:
By the end of this year, XZ1 and XZ1 compact will get Android Pie.
Source
List of the Sony phones, that will get Android (Mud) Pie:
* Xperia XZ2
* Xperia XZ2 Compact
* Xperia XZ2 Premium
* Xperia XZ1
* Xperia XZ1 Compact
* Xperia XZ Premium
Lol obvio, we will all have android P. The question is, what about Android 10?...
Hello everybody,
i was in a local consumer electronic center (Saturn) last weekend. A sony promoter told me, that sony gives a guaranty of four years for Android updates @ XZ3. Could be true, because of the relative pure android on the device, but i want to be sure. I googled around but i wasnt able to find a official announcement about this.
Is this true?
If so, is this for main android updates (android 10, 11, ...) for four years or lets say only two years for main updates and two more years for bugfixes and security updates?
Thanks
Sony gives on average two Android versions worth of updates, which would equate to two years of support.
What @mufunyo said is about correct. Basically whatever the phone's OS was at release + 2 more versions is Sony's usual update method. So if you get the XZ3, and following Sony's usual support, the XZ3 should get up to the R version.
Honestly though Sony is also pretty good with their Xperia open source initiative and after 2 years you can still experience a rich custom ROM ecosystem for flagships. I once managed to update my ancient Xperia S (LT26i) to Android Marshmallow with a LineageOS ROM. That phone originally shipped with Gingerbread! That's 5 major versions later! (We don't count Honeycomb since it was for tablets only.)
Thats good to read, thanks for this informations. This let me tend to buy a XZ3 a bit more, but....
... at the moment, Sony has no more ANT+-support out of the box (i thin Z5 Premium was the last phone with ANT+), so this is the only reason why i didnt buy one till now. I think snapdragon 845 is ANT+-capable, but i dont have a confirmation about this and i dont have a statement from anybody about the possibility to patch the XZ3 with ANT+-features.
I need and will buy a new phone in the next ~4 weeks, and if there is no answer (or better: solution) for this, i think i have to buy Samsung again. Sad to say...