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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why our browsers have to reload the page even though you are just going "back" one page. For example, if I visit Gizmodo, then go to engadget, then back to Gizmodo, my browser has to reload the page instead of using the cache. It seems as if the cache is barely used (granted the reload is a little quicker, but not much).
Is there a tweak or program that can make this better? It is really frustrating, especially if you are trying to browse a page and accidentally hit the wrong link, which requires you to fumble for stop and oft times requires a reload (this is one reason I miss the Hero browser, because it had a stop button in the address bar).
Hmm, I've noticed this as well. Perhaps Android thinks you need to refresh the page? I know with apps like Opera Mini, pages back (somewhere around 10) are completely stored which is a very nice feature, but as to why Android doesn't do this, is a mystery .
I know the larger files, like images and chunks of text, are saved to the cache, but not whole pages. That would get pretty big after a while, and would slow down the browser because of access times. It's the time the Browser takes to draw the page is what's creating the lag. Look at Opera Mini again, the page loads instantly because it's zoomed out first, then you zoom in.
try "steel" browser.
@ phuthanvinh: I have tried "Steel", but it really isn't any better.
@lukekirstein, yeah, that is one nice thing about Opera. It loads cached pages almost instantly in most instances. When I need quick information, I always turn to Opera. If I want to browse for pleasure, then I use the Android browser.
It would be awesome if a Developer could implement some type of Webkit add-on that forces cache of the whole page.
I just wonder if the "lag" is not caused by redownloading, but rather stems from Android using software-based graphics decoding instead of using the onboard graphics chip. At least that is what I have heard.
I have the same issue and it's very annoying when I'm using google reader!
Have you find a solution?
Does anyone have a solution to prevent android browser to reload pages already load in a tab after I come back from another tab?
Has anyone else had an occasional scrolling lag in situations? It's happened to be on the Program List where the Program icons don't load immediately. Also, most noticeably in apps such as Beezz the scrolling is laggy... Is it just me, or are others experiencing the same...?
Early bump as I'm trying to decide whether a Hard Reset is in order, maybe I installed something that didn't fare too well. Thanks guys.
80% (if not more) of the 3rd apps are NOT optimized (or rushed diplomatically saying) for Windows Phone 7 OS. HTC Hub for example wasn't as fast as the new update for it.
I can make a slight lag (more of a chopping than lag) ONLY IF I visit WPCentral page which chops on my browser than after 4-5 minutes it disappears. So I am pretty sure it's not optimised well rather than a lag because let's face it , the hardware is there and the OS is damn fast.
Have you also experienced start menu icons taking their sweet times to show up?
I've seen some choppiness on 3rd party apps. Agreed that it is a developer issue as they learn how to make apps for wp7. beezz is better than it was, but for best results, m.twitter.com is your best option.
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Have you also experienced start menu icons taking their sweet times to show up?
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In almost 1 month of use, never I have. To continue my initial post, that is one of the reason why I haven't installed many 3rd apps. Personally I hate having a sleek OS and then enter an app and feel like Android.. In fact besides YouTube and Adobe Reader I have only 4 other apps installed.
Same here. I can repeatedly reproduce the program list icon thing by scrolling to the bottom of the list, then hitting the home key, it'll fly to the top of the list and you'll see "white stars" before it switches to the home screen instead of the icons. Happens in random situations too, this is just a consistent occurrence..
I'd like to point out that as a developer, the choppy scrolling is a platform issue with the way Microsoft have design listbox scrolling - Silverlight defaults to virtualising the list box and recycling the listbox items - and this works fine of the PC where there is enough processing power to recycle and virtualise whilst you scroll. However, with Windows Phone 7's limited processing power, and Microsoft's very unoptimised seeming implementation, listboxes can't virtualise data fast enough. Ergo, voodoo is needed to get it working to scroll smoothly You could turn off virtualisation, but then that greatly increases RAM usage, which in Silverlight is already and lot, and then you get comparatively long load & draw & render times, and blargh. There's no one good way to do it yet for long lists - not until Microsoft go and optimise the Silverlight platform better.
I'm assuming the program list icon thing is to save RAM - you can also get it with the Home screen tiles if you have a lot of tiles on it - and saving RAM is something Windows Phone is going to like to do, seeing as the apps and the Silverlight platform use up so much RAM
i had my hd7 for almost a month now and experienced lag on it. there was also an instance that icons of the apps i installed via market place took a few seconds to load up. theres also this occasional slow response time of the unlock screen. i still have 9gb of space though
Anyone try the new opera mobile 11. it now supports flash.
If so does it work on stock rooted?
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Stock rom doesn't support flash so no. It will now show you the preview image, and if you click through to youtube and press play there it'll play the video in your youtube app.
It also recognizes it's on a tablet, and shows a different interface than the one for the phone.
Personally I love the new opera, I'm using it as my daily web browser. That's saying alot considering how good dolphin HD is.
I've tried Opera Mobile 11, Firefox 4 RC, and various reskinnings of the default browser (Miren, Dolphin, and stock). Opera Mobile 11 seems by far the smoothest, apparently due to hardware acceleration. Scrolling/panning, pinch zooming, etc., are smooth as silk, similar to what you'd see on an iPad. None of the WebKit-based browsers are that smooth, presumably because they don't yet feature hardware acceleration (at least on the NC?). Firefox 4 RC looks okay but doesn't yet have Flash. I think I may make Opera may daily driver for a bit and see how it does with the various sites I visit.
UPDATE: After playing with Opera 11 for a while, I'll go so far as to say that everyone should try the New York Times Web site with Opera 11 in landscape orientation. That, to me, is what tablet browsing is all about! VERY impressive!
Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.
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Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.
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Even I didn't find opera mobile in market....So i went to opera website thru nook browser (I am using cm7 sd card bootable), went to download page, selected android devices. Here you get option to download opera mini or mobile....
Download mobile and enjoy
I am loving it......
Opera = no Javascript = pass!
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Opera = no Javascript = pass!
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Where did you hear that? Opera Mobile has a very good JavaScript engine.
I've been testing Opera and a few things bug me:
A) Panning up and down the page doesn't "lock" the motion to that axis so that it only moves up/down like every other Android browser does. So the page moves around on BOTH axes (up/down/left/right) and even looks weird as it jitters (or "vibrates") left/right when you only mean to move up/down. In every other browser, when you start panning in one motion, it locks the movement to that axis, which makes for a smoother motion (and rarely do you need to move on both axes, which is why this is implemented).
B) Long pressing on a link doesn't show the URL. Sometimes I'm reading an article and want to see what a link goes to without opening a page. In Opera Mobile, there's no way to do that.
C) I find tab switching to be slower and more tedious than in Dolphin, where the only action needed is a single tap on a tab. Whereas in Opera, you need to tap the (frustratingly small) tabs button, tap the tab you want, and then tap out of it to get rid of the pop-out.
That being said, the re-flow option is much better in Opera than Dolphin. It re-flows the text immediately after zooming, every time. Very helpful.
opera:config, uncheck "Scoll is Pan" in User Prefs, helps a little bit with the vertical scroll lock problem.
The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?
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The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?
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I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.
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I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.
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Just tried that and it works perfectly! Thanks!
Thanks for the tip. This is the best browser yet for the Nook in my view. Quick, accurate (pinching, dragging) and no fuss. I'm running it on a CM7 SD card build and it's fast. Flash works. A question, however: I know Flash works because I use Flash for our site and checked it there. However, going to HBO.com (wanted to grab some Flash video to see what happened) it tells me that my device is not Flash enabled -- so won't let me connect with Flash. ????????????????????
Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.
OMG, I just installed this a few moments ago... can't believe how fast this thing is! It's as fast as the iPad browser on a rooted. stock Nook. running stock clock speed. Gentlemen, I have found my new browser. End of story.
I don't find it to be as tablet-friendly as the stock HC browser, but it does seem to be very good in terms of performance
Most importantly I can now watch youtube videos on my nook even with HC. Wowza thanks for the tip!
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Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.
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Funny, i am the opposite. For me, this is the first browser in CM7 that lets me view pages like Engadget with good fluidity....
It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity
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It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity
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Same here, I thought I was the only one that noticed. Switched to Opera Mini 10, then back to Dolphin Mini 2 because page rendering more livable, now back to Opera Mobile 11 because of speed, although I still hate how vertical scrolling a pain on long pages.
Hi,
I have been using the default browser, and also Chrome on my Xoom. Initially, they both seemed pretty fast, but after several days of using them, they both get pretty slow. I usually have multiple tabs open (3 or 4), and loading up a typical page takes quite a bit of time. For example, loading engadget takes about 25secs. Clearing the browser cache, and history helps a little bit - down to about 20secs.
Comapre that to my ipad, which loads up much faster.
But, either way scrolling up on down just a little fast brings white screen - while it takes time to refresh the content on the page.
What kind of performance are you seeing?
I am on a 12Mbps connection, so that shouldn't be an issue.
ive noticed this too. clearing the cache seems to help
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Hi,
I have been using the default browser, and also Chrome on my Xoom. Initially, they both seemed pretty fast, but after several days of using them, they both get pretty slow. I usually have multiple tabs open (3 or 4), and loading up a typical page takes quite a bit of time. For example, loading engadget takes about 25secs. Clearing the browser cache, and history helps a little bit - down to about 20secs.
Comapre that to my ipad, which loads up much faster.
But, either way scrolling up on down just a little fast brings white screen - while it takes time to refresh the content on the page.
What kind of performance are you seeing?
I am on a 12Mbps connection, so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Experiment with different browsers. I used dolphin hd for a long time, but it got a bit laggy after updates a couple months ago (haven't tried it in a while, might be better). Boat browser is currently my primary... just tried endgadget, and while it certainly isn't scientific, my results were less than 10 seconds in 3 tries, the fastest being 5-6. I also use maxthon and firefox periodically, and keep at least 1 "lite" browser loaded (boat mini at the moment) for use when in a low bandwidth cellular area.
im using chrome as default and have no issues whatsoever - pages load 5-6 seconds on wifi speeds upto 12mbs - only issue with chrome for me is no flash support yet
From what I understand there will not be any flash supports for chrome beta on android.
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Thanks for the responses guys, will try the other browsers mentioned.
Hi all,
I did make a thread as a guest user but unfortunately I can't find it anymore so I've made an account and I'll repost/better explain the issues I've come across.
1) RAM Management
Whenever I close all active apps it says it has around 3GB of memory available, the phone comes with 6GB of memory so I'm wondering why it's only giving me 3GB available, surely the OS can't be using the other 3GB to run.
2) The camera
Right so this one comes down to the low light photography, I've upgraded to the P20 Pro from the Samsung S7 Edge. The S7 Edge did low light photography pretty damn well, and in the release conference Huawei state that the device can reach an ISO of 102400 however when in the Pro mode I can only set the slider to be 3200, yet the automatic mode takes it up to 6400. I find it very odd that an automatic setting can go higher than a manual one.
On my S7 Edge I can take a photo in an unlit room and still have it turn out reasonably well, I am expecting the P20 Pro with it's alleged high ISO to provide a better image, yet when I try this with the same settings as the S7 Edge I get a black image. I'm willing to put this down to user incompetence as I'm not a photographer... so if anyone can explain this to me then I'd be greatly appreciative.
3) Game resolutions
I copied all apps from my old phone to the P20 Pro, but half of them don't work. When the apps first launch I get the option to keep them at their native resolution or to force a fullscreen mode, no matter which option I select the menus for the games are all skewed and off screen. It renders most of my games unplayable (pun not intended). Could this be a resolution problem with the phone?
4) The Camera (again)
When taking portrait shots, the background is blurry. This is actually a pretty nice feature but sometimes I want to get a picture of me WITH something decorative on a wall behind me. I can't find a setting to turn the blur off.
5) Phone Management (the in built app)
This one is pretty straight forward to explain, IT NEVER REACHES 100%. The highest it's ever been is 96%, right now my phone is fully charged, has no apps open, is not performing any background tasks and is at 90% efficiency. I don't understand what it takes to get to 100%.
I'm sure there will be fixes for things as apps update and patches are released but if anyone could provide any assistance on the issues mentioned above then that'd be awesome.
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2) Same iso settings on mine, switch to pro and change the settings
3) Either clear the data/cache or uninstall and reinstall the games from play store, remember this is a different phone and the defined settings could be wrong
4) click on the icon in bottom left (highlighted orange) to turn it off/on
Where did you get the phone from, which sim you using, which firmware you on.
Regarding the portrait question, when in portrait mode there are 3 settings above the shoot option, press the one on the left to turn bokeh off.
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I'll answer the following
2) Same iso settings on mine, switch to pro and change the settings
3) Either clear the data/cache or uninstall and reinstall the games from play store, remember this is a different phone and the defined settings could be wrong
4) click on the icon in bottom left (highlighted orange) to turn it off/on
Where did you get the phone from, which sim you using, which firmware you on.
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I've just reinstalled the apps from the Playstore, unfortunately they have the same issue still.
Thanks for clearing up the bokeh problem!
I got my phone from O2, it's an O2 SIM and the firmware is CLT-L09 8.1.0.103
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I've just reinstalled the apps from the Playstore, unfortunately they have the same issue still.
Thanks for clearing up the bokeh problem!
I got my phone from O2, it's an O2 SIM and the firmware is CLT-L09 8.1.0.103
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yours is single sim and different firmware to mine is dual sim and firmware CLT-L29 8.1.0.102(C782)
I did miss off on the iso info that the high iso is only selected automatically by the phone when it's needed, ideally it would be good if could set the iso manually as well to the full range
Regarding 3: I could imagine its a programming issue. Depending on what method the games use to obtain information about screen sizes they could bypass options like fullscreen mode or so. This could be a problem on the phone software side that the fullscreen or native option is not overriding all access methods or the games not using the android API correctly.
I hope thet they will get us ISO 102400 and shutter speed 60 seconds for Pro Mod in updates. If you look at P20 Pro lunch day you will see that they shoot photo with 58 seconds of shutter speed. Now P20 Pro can just shoot maximum 30 seconds of shutter speed.
This thread has had a number of the containing posts cleaned from it. If you don't like a particular phone, don't post hatred for that phone or the OEM who makes it in a thread about said phone. It's really unnecessary.
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This thread has had a number of the containing posts cleaned from it. If you don't like a particular phone, don't post hatred for that phone or the OEM who makes it in a thread about said phone. It's really unnecessary.
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Nobody said they don't like the phone? I actually quite like it. I've come to this forum because this is literally the only place where some people could have answers to some questions I have about it, whether they be a fault with the phone or my misunderstanding of the functions.
Your comment posed no benefit to any of the questions raised, you don't need to comment. It's really unnecessary.
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Nobody said they don't like the phone? I actually quite like it. I've come to this forum because this is literally the only place where some people could have answers to some questions I have about it, whether they be a fault with the phone or my misunderstanding of the functions.
Your comment posed no benefit to any of the questions raised, you don't need to comment. It's really unnecessary.
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Actually, the first person who's comment I deleted said multiple things about not liking the phone. The reason you can't see it is because, as I said in the post that you felt necessary to reply to, I have cleaned the thread of said messages.
Your reply to a moderator's post posed no benefit to the way that the forum is run and maintained, you don't need to comment. It's really unnecessary. Do it again and you'll find that you'll be reprimanded. Have a wonderful day. :victory: