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after reading in one thread about atk somewhere in xda, I agree with the author and immediately remove from gt my P1000. then after a few days without atk there are some things I want to ask:
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the killer task default samsung just ending not more than 4-5 applications where my habit to always use the back button from one application to another. this is much different where atk while still using 17-20s can reach the applications in turn. what makes the difference between this 2application?
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Since i'm back to defat task killer, i always been 80-90% of ram usage and everytime i killed it always been around 350 ram, way different with atk which might reached 175 of usage ram. What is all about?
I'm running with default GtP1000 firmware no rooting. Appreciate those whom willing to brighten me up about this free ram
Regards
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
pvtjoker42 said:
You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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Meaning no need apps to clear-uninstall right? i can see that your device is rooted? yhanks for respond
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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I'll try to look at the bloat freezer
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Still curious what is the main different the way atk and default in killing task?
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
pvtjoker42 said:
the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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I've seen the bloat frozen but it required root,mine not rooted yet
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Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.
Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.
And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!
Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?
Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.
How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
straycat said:
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.
freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok
I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...
And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!
Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.
Ok guys, I hope this helps some if not all of you. This is a list , or pictures, of apps that i usually delete or freeze depending on the app. Applications that may be used in the future like "AT&T Software Update" might be wise to just freeze. Applications like "Beats", unless you use them, I would delete them. If you are unsure of what applications to delete or freeze, it is safer to just freeze the application, as this leaves the application installed on your phone but it is no longer running in the background. When looking at the pictures, the pictures with items with a line accross, this are apps I uninstalled, the other ones are frozen. that are Many applications in the Google Playstore allow you to freeze or delete system apps, but I find Titanium Backup Pro to be more direct and easier to use.
DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility if you brake your phone, or find your balls after debloating the $#it out of your Galaxy S5.
List:
Safe to Freeze:
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Software Update
BlurbCheckout
Chrome
com.sec.android.app.sbrowserty
Device Help
ELM Agent
Email
Exchange Services
Gmail
Google+
Hangouts
Internet
Keeper
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX Notification Manager
Mobile TV
My Files (ONLY if you have a third party file manager)
My Magazine
S Helath
Samsung Push Service
Smart Remote
Swype
Talkback
YP
Apps to delete
Use with caution, if you don't know it is safer to freeze.
waplauncher
AT&T Digital Locker
AT&T Messages
AT&T Mobile Recovery
AT&T Navigation
Beats Music
com.cequint.ccid (This is the ID caller app. can't remember the actual name)
ChatOn
AT&T Drive Mode
Flipboard
Google Books
Google Games
Google music
Google Magazines
Lookout Antivirus
Polaris Office
imsqmisocket (Can't remember the actual name)
Media
Hopes this helps. If it did hit "thanks"
It'd be more helpful if you made a list
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
It'd be more helpful if you made a list
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K, Ima start working on that as well
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Have you tried freezing S-Voice? That app is single handedly keeping me from buying an S5. I hate S-Voice with a passion and every time I get a Samsung phone, I put so much time and effort into disabling it, but it never goes completely away.
I deleted s voice
I was thinking a list would be better because when you delete certain apps they change the name
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what does
imsqmisocket and Media do?
Yep
JRDroid said:
Have you tried freezing S-Voice? That app is single handedly keeping me from buying an S5. I hate S-Voice with a passion and every time I get a Samsung phone, I put so much time and effort into disabling it, but it never goes completely away.
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You didn't have to wait for root to disable S-Voice, was possible right out of the box to disable it.
this is weird, I just rooted my s5 using towelroot and installed chainfire's SU then installed TiBu pro with no problem but when I tried deleting some at&t bloatware like at&t navigator.. it keeps giving this "cannot delete system app, unable to locate apk file"..anyone encountered this?
Is there another app that can freeze the AT&T OTA? I have app freeze and app quarantine and it doesn't give me the option to freeze it.
I don't have TiBu pro yet, maybe I'll buy it next month. Are there any temporary solutions to stop with the OTA?
btort1 said:
Is there another app that can freeze the AT&T OTA? I have app freeze and app quarantine and it doesn't give me the option to freeze it.
I don't have TiBu pro yet, maybe I'll buy it next month. Are there any temporary solutions to stop with the OTA?
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Force stopping the service and renaming the APK in the /system folder should work (e.g. 'softwareupdater.apk.dontrun'). I don't know what the file name of the updater is though, so you will have to do some research.
freeze/delete
i have deleted all apps on the delete list and my phone is booting faster, and i have no issues and i have turned off some of the apps too since i dont have the paid version of titanium backup. all is fine.
Im pretty sure deleting system apps ruins your chance of getting an OTA update in the future, should you choose to want one eventually. I wouldnt delete any system apps. Freezing is fine.
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Im pretty sure deleting system apps ruins your chance of getting an OTA update in the future, should you choose to want one eventually. I wouldnt delete any system apps. Freezing is fine.
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but at&t navigator isnt a system app, I just dont understand why TiBu sees this as a system app and cannot locate the apk. I have turned off this app including other bloatware even before we achieved root but I want to completely remove them
yhe2x said:
this is weird, I just rooted my s5 using towelroot and installed chainfire's SU then installed TiBu pro with no problem but when I tried deleting some at&t bloatware like at&t navigator.. it keeps giving this "cannot delete system app, unable to locate apk file"..anyone encountered this?
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If you use rom toolbox pro it will completely Uninstalled them but rom toolbox pro is a paid app as well.
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this is my first android smartphone and only my second smartphone (first being iphone 3gs). I was wondering if someone knew what the apk name and location was so that I could at least for the moment rename the updater services so I don't have to worry about getting an update. I know most people talk about titanium backup and some other paid apps but currently I don't have the money to go that route.
I am still learning this and I tried to search to see if someone had any good alternatives to TiBu but I didn't find any results. I saw some things on the Verizon section but none of those files they mentioned were on the AT&T phones (and I was hesitant to assume they would share the same updater service).
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but at&t navigator isnt a system app, I just dont understand why TiBu sees this as a system app and cannot locate the apk. I have turned off this app including other bloatware even before we achieved root but I want to completely remove them
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This can be disabled using the normal Android app manager. TiBu can't find the apk because the app isn't technically installed on your phone, yet. If you tried launching the app, it takes you to the google play store to download and install.
LoSt180 said:
This can be disabled using the normal Android app manager. TiBu can't find the apk because the app isn't technically installed on your phone, yet. If you tried launching the app, it takes you to the google play store to download and install.
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its in system/priv-app
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Thank you for the list!
So i accidentally deleted My Magazine instead of freezing it, could this lead to problems later?
Over Rustled said:
Thank you for the list!
So i accidentally deleted My Magazine instead of freezing it, could this lead to problems later?
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No, because you can just factory reset and have it back.
be careful please do not tick ultra power saving mode after rooting and removing some apps, it has not been tracked to exactly what is causing it but it is happening to a few of us.
I removed the standard AT&T ****, isis wallet, the google crap i dont use and a few others with titanium, tested it out for a few hours worked great, had apex installed as the default launcher,
CLICKED ultra power saving mode to test it.. POW on reboot phone loads to only a black and white AT&T logo and it is dead there..
Even if you go into recovery mode and factory reset, the phone will now boot, but after unlock its dead no background and just a black screen the pull down up top works and to get into settings and the lock screen works and that is it....
going to download the 900A zip and try a total reset via odin... I'll keep you updated..
So from what I read the devs removed "service disabler" function. What it's mean? the new update make the app useless? There's a lot of piss off people.
But more important if the app is now useless to disable services, and of what I read on xda, people ask for service disabler apps, and bk was recommended, what can we use now?
Does the new update kill the "Theme Service Disabler with Tasker + bk" method?
Thanks
Service disable means you still can use the apps but some services like getting location or pushing notification will not be started, because you disabled.
But now, this option will be removed, not sure if they will release the apps to somewhere.
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So from what I read the devs removed "service disabler" function. What it's mean? the new update make the app useless? There's a lot of piss off people.
But more important if the app is now useless to disable services, and of what I read on xda, people ask for service disabler apps, and bk was recommended, what can we use now?
Does the new update kill the "Theme Service Disabler with Tasker + bk" method?
Thanks
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I assume this means you can't disable any new services. All that I disabled prior to the update are still disabled. If I had read the update I wouldn't have updated the app.
I only purchased this app last month because package Disabler pro stopped working.
I wonder if that's the reason my screen off discharge rate went from 0.5% per hour to a little over 1% per hour now?
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Regarding the wording, it is disabling packages, not services. In the app, I could not find services.
I think, all is well and drama not appropriate, but they should have worded it a lot more in detail.
You can disable any app you want, what you can not do now, is disabling individual services within the targeted app
After this same thing happened with Easy Disabler and Package disabler pro on the N7, I have disabled auto updating for BK since I installed it.
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After this same thing happened with Easy Disabler and Package disabler pro on the N7, I have disabled auto updating for BK since I installed it.
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How do you disable updating for just this app? I disabled updates when the note 7 debacle, but all updates in general got disabled, btw, my note 7 works just fine, as day one
winol said:
How do you disable updating for just this app? I disabled updates when the note 7 debacle, but all updates in general got disabled, btw, my note 7 works just fine, as day one
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Just go to the BK play store page and uncheck auto-update. You need to disable the updates for both BK and the plugin.
My Note 7 was working great too but Verizon finally disabled my service which seems like some sort of violation to me. It didn't seem worth fighting them over it though.
Can one not download a previous version apk the version number before the current one, ?
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Thank you all for the answers.
So the devs publish this:
"Hello,
If you want to keep Service Disabler function, reinstall the old version of “BK Plugin 2” in the link below and turn off Google Play auto-update app. Thanks!"
Download link:
https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/news_2/
Hopping in the next update the devs will upload the apk with service disabler function outside the play store.
Not sure if it's to do with BK or the January update. But my screen off discharge rate has doubled from 0.5% to 1 % per hour recently.
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I'm so glad that I never enable auto update in the Play Store. I read every what's new note prior to updating. Since I haven't updated BK & Plug-in it still works fine just as before. I just can't click update all in the Play Store now since these 2 apps are always in queue to update.
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OnMy2ndGP said:
I'm so glad that I never enable auto update in the Play Store. I read every what's new note prior to updating. Since I haven't updated BK & Plug-in it still works fine just as before. I just can't click update all in the Play Store now since these 2 apps are always in queue to update.
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I don't do auto update either. I did a manual update before I read what had happened unfortunately.
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I don't do auto update either. I did a manual update before I read what had happened unfortunately.
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FYI, the dev did post a fix.... https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/news_2/ Hope that helps.
soilentgreen said:
Thank you all for the answers.
So the devs publish this:
"Hello,
If you want to keep Service Disabler function, reinstall the old version of “BK Plugin 2” in the link below and turn off Google Play auto-update app. Thanks!"
Download link:
https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/news_2/
Hopping in the next update the devs will upload the apk with service disabler function outside the play store.
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I downloaded that apk , cheers. Do I launch BK plugin or BK app moving forward?
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@Limeybastard
Continue to launch 'BK Disabler' as you usually would.
See the attached screenshot as to why the software package was pulled.
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@Limeybastard
Continue to launch 'BK Disabler' as you usually would.
See the attached screenshot as to why the software package was pulled.
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Cheers, I uninstalled the current plugin and installed the apk.
Which menu within this app allows me to disable system apps that are now not allowed?
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SO I hope this isn't a noob question but I noticed it forces you to agree for the KLMS license in order to use. Is this an issue?
Whats the story with the KLMS Agent licence and relation to KNOX?
PS: I am trying to disable services so OTA updates don't happen while I use the note 8 for a while before I decide if I want to root it. Obviously I don't want updates to happen and prevent future rooting. If there is a better way than BK disabler I am open to suggestions...
Thank you,
BK Disabler - Services Removal Explanation
@Limeybastard
Which menu within this app allows me to disable system apps that are now not allowed?
There appears to be confusion regarding the changes.
Allow me to explain.
(I've also attached a screenshot to illustrate what is missing in the newer versions.)
With earlier versions of BK Disabler, you could disable ANY Service AND still run the Application.
This would be useful if you didn't want a specific Service to run alongside the Application (e.g., You are investigating a battery drain related to Google Play and found 'AppMeasurementReceiver' Service to be the culprit. You could disable that Service but still run the Application).
With the new version of BK Disabler, you can no longer disable Services; only Applications.
The ability to disable Services WITHOUT root is a powerful option BUT can cause stability issues if used carelessly.
So you needn't worry as the new changes in BK Disabler shouldn't affect you.
This is getting annoyingly painful now..
I don't need another company with my data and Google has been fine for years for device backups..
This thing is still trying to backup data at 2am in the morning with all options unticked .. then as it can't do it..it leaves a message saying there is not enough storage..
I mean..all I want to do is turn it off.. but Sammy in thier wisdom won't let me do this..
Anyone else tried and getting this message..
I know I can possiblity use package disabler to kill this pest..but which is the actual app that is trying to do it and what else may it affect..
I kinda don't want to root the phone just to do this as I want to keep it secure for banking and payments..
But dam.. it shouldn't be so hard..
As a note: there is plenty of storage as I don't use it Samsung cloud for anything..
It is Samsung Cloud app and you can prevent it from a: sync b: disable autobackup for various folders.
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It is Samsung Cloud app and you can prevent it from a: sync b: disable autobackup for various folders.
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Yes, thanks..
Been doing that.. only had notes sync..
Turned it off and will see how it goes..
Unfortunately 2 days later and it's back..
As per screenshot.. 2am ET has tried to call home.
Now a few things that is pissing me off.
1: I am not stupid and have a good grasp of what to look for and what to turn off to stop this happening.
So why have Samsung made this an auto turn on feature?
I have turned the settings off.
They have not asked for permission to turn it back on.
2: Samsung should NOT be forcing users of thier phones to backup to thier cloud.
If Google gets slammed billions in Europe for data collection.. I got a feeling Samsung is opening themselves up to the like.
So now, I can only see three ways to handle this.
Root and delete the app.
Kinda don't want to do that
Freeze it.
Via package disabler
Use a firewall.
Kinda defeats the purpose of having Knox and Google scanning your apps..means you are going to have have another app running all the time.. and really I don't want to be forced into using the McAfee
Really, I am the only one that is suffering this?
This is stock..8.1.0
Unrooted
ET wanting to turn itself on and call home is just not right..
Edits: using package disabler to freeze it..seems to work as gone into settings and backup and it's giving me no package available..so that's a work around..
But should not be that hard..
Been driving me nuts too. Have resorted to Package Disabler also.
Which package are you guys disabling?
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Sammy cloud..
The others are just to kill that B button..
package disabler?
where would one find this package disabler? I just got a S10 and samsung doesn't need my data. bad enough how much google has.
CaptainQ said:
where would one find this package disabler? I just got a S10 and samsung doesn't need my data. bad enough how much google has.
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Get one from this site.
https://www.packagedisabler.com
They send key for app to work. Plus if u wipe ur phone and reinstall no need pay for key again like one from play store. Are need to upgrade phone.
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