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What would happen in this situation?

What happens if you trip Knox, but then need warranty repair? What if you intentionally hard brick the phone before sending it? Is there still a way for them to find out Knox is tripped? I don't think so.

Tmobile doesn't seem to care if knox is tripped.

But Samsung does.

Samsung has been ignoring it for the most part. When they repair, they wipe and reset Knox flag anyway. This is what occurred with many folks on Note 3

Compusmurf said:
When they repair, they wipe and reset Knox flag anyway.
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Note 4 Knox is an eFuse (unlike on Note 3). It is physically impossible to reset once it's tripped.

railshot said:
Note 4 Knox is an eFuse (unlike on Note 3). It is physically impossible to reset once it's tripped.
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That's what they said on the Note 3 until Samsung proved everyone wrong.

It don't matter. T mobile got you for a year. Just deal with refurbished one
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Knox ONLY affects the manufacturer warranty through Samsung. If you have insurance through t-mobile, you're good.

@KennyG123 I request that forum moderators put up a sticky so we don't have to keep reposting about knox.... T-mobile doesn't give a _________ about knox..

twe90kid said:
@KennyG123 I request that forum moderators put up a sticky so we don't have to keep reposting about knox.... T-mobile doesn't give a _________ about knox..
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Right. And Samsung does. And majority of T-mobile customers do NOT have JUMP or PHP, so they have to rely on Samsung.

jsho31 said:
Knox ONLY affects the manufacturer warranty through Samsung. If you have insurance through t-mobile, you're good.
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This^^^^^^ insurance is for your own protection against stupidty...something you pay extra for and also a deductible.
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@KennyG123 I request that forum moderators put up a sticky so we don't have to keep reposting about knox.... T-mobile doesn't give a _________ about knox..
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See above and below
railshot said:
Right. And Samsung does. And majority of T-mobile customers do NOT have JUMP or PHP, so they have to rely on Samsung.
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Also this ^^^^^^^^^ So remember, tripping Knox voids the Samsung warranty. Use at your own risk.

railshot said:
Right. And Samsung does. And majority of T-mobile customers do NOT have JUMP or PHP, so they have to rely on Samsung.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2624
You can rely on T-Mobile even if u don't have jump or php

m3lover1 said:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2624
You can rely on T-Mobile even if u don't have jump or php
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I stand corrected. I did not know that. Thank you.

I couldn't get the Samsung repair center to fix my touchscreen failure on my s5 with zero damage anywhere on it because Knox was tripped. I think I had the laziest fat ass who didn't want to work though. This was at RSI in Texas. However, I exchanged it through T-Mobile with zero issues. I believe my Knox was at 0x4 from learning how to flash

Josh McGrath said:
I couldn't get the Samsung repair center to fix my touchscreen failure on my s5 with zero damage anywhere on it because Knox was tripped. I think I had the laziest fat ass who didn't want to work though. This was at RSI in Texas. However, I exchanged it through T-Mobile with zero issues. I believe my Knox was at 0x4 from learning how to flash
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XxKINGxX2580 said:
What happens if you trip Knox, but then need warranty repair? What if you intentionally hard brick the phone before sending it? Is there still a way for them to find out Knox is tripped? I don't think so.
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Note 4 Knox is an eFuse (unlike on Note 3). It is physically impossible to reset once it's tripped.
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Just because of this i will be purchasing SquareTrade as well. Just in case I have any problems.

railshot said:
Right. And Samsung does. And majority of T-mobile customers do NOT have JUMP or PHP, so they have to rely on Samsung.
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You don't need those plans, it's under warranty for 1 year under t-mobile, so as long as you bought it from t-mobile, they'll exchange it for you

railshot said:
Note 4 Knox is an eFuse (unlike on Note 3). It is physically impossible to reset once it's tripped.
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Note 3 was an efuse too - but there are TONS of EFUSES they can use - so they just put in a new one -
I may not be using the correct language for this - but this is the effect of what they did, as I understand it.

Tmobile insurance also covers theft, accidental damage, so its worth it to some.

Why don't people care about tripping knox anymore?

I remember back when I had the note 3 (on ATT if that matters), most of the people on XDA would try their hardest not to trip knox, but now that I'm on the note 4, I don't see any posts about it or anything like that. Why is that?
Cause I heard the chainfire auto root trips knox, which is why I'm asking.

pham818 said:
I remember back when I had the note 3 (on ATT if that matters), most of the people on XDA would try their hardest not to trip knox, but now that I'm on the note 4, I don't see any posts about it or anything like that. Why is that?
Cause I heard the chainfire auto root trips knox!
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Probably because there isn't a way to root without tripping it, so people are just accepting.

pham818 said:
I remember back when I had the note 3 (on ATT if that matters), most of the people on XDA would try their hardest not to trip knox, but now that I'm on the note 4, I don't see any posts about it or anything like that. Why is that?
Cause I heard the chainfire auto root trips knox, which is why I'm asking.
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Most people could care less about KNOX they just care to have Samsung service center fix their phones if something were to break they want to get a new phone or have samy fix it they don't want to run the risk of it being returned dud to tripping KNOX. Most people are willing to take a chance on tripping it because they know what to do with root noobs tend to wait for the safe method

Since Knox was introduce I have returned 6 Knox tripped phones without any mention to Knox being tripped by T-Mobile or Assurant. I have never dealt with Samsung directly though, nor do I ever think I will. I use to worry, but as time has passed with no repercussions for tripping Knox, I no longer even think about it.

I deal with tmobile I usually unroot return to stock and send back never a problem.Knox can go to hell for all I care

Your Warranty is Not Void: http://youtu.be/9YcIHaajda8
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Hey when I turned in my g3 it was still rooted and running a custom ROM . when I turned in my note 3 it was still rooted and still running a custom ROM
T-Mobile do sent care as long as its in full working condition

CheesyNutz said:
Hey when I turned in my g3 it was still rooted and running a custom ROM . when I turned in my note 3 it was still rooted and still running a custom ROM
T-Mobile do sent care as long as its in full working condition
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but you have to have tmobile premium handset protection or jump program for tmobile right ? or else you'll have to stuck with samsung warranty service

The people have spoken trip your KNOX already what's the worst that can happen you take it to your carrier and they give you a brand new/refurbished one or fix your phone. I have always rooted don't really know what KNOX is and I don't own a business so I don't care. I will continue to root my devices and enjoy the darkside :angel: with my XDA family

I never gave 2 craps about knox. I need root.
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Uniquebarbee said:
The people have spoken trip your KNOX already what's the worst that can happen you take it to your carrier and they give you a brand new/refurbished one or fix your phone. I have always rooted don't really know what KNOX is and I don't own a business so I don't care. I will continue to root my devices and enjoy the darkside :angel: with my XDA family
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yeah i was just wondering. just rooted my phone a few hours ago!

Colnart said:
but you have to have tmobile premium handset protection or jump program for tmobile right ? or else you'll have to stuck with samsung warranty service
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Yea i have jump but I have a buddy that doesn't and turned in his note 3 rooted and Knox tripped no worries they took it

pham818 said:
I remember back when I had the note 3 (on ATT if that matters), most of the people on XDA would try their hardest not to trip knox, but now that I'm on the note 4, I don't see any posts about it or anything like that. Why is that?
Cause I heard the chainfire auto root trips knox, which is why I'm asking.
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Most people with the Tmobile Note 4 have handset protection and tripping knox dont affect that at all . Long story short TMOBILE DEOSNT CARE . 99% of the time you dont have to send a phone to Samsung for warranty repair Tmo will just swap it out . I have had multiple phones with tripped warranties that were exchanged by Tmo and the Rep says they just reflash them anyway . The $8 a month it costs for handset protection is well worth it especially if you want to toy around with your device .

Colnart said:
but you have to have tmobile premium handset protection or jump program for tmobile right ? or else you'll have to stuck with samsung warranty service
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Correct

randpost said:
Since Knox was introduce I have returned 6 Knox tripped phones without any mention to Knox being tripped by T-Mobile or Assurant. I have never dealt with Samsung directly though, nor do I ever think I will. I use to worry, but as time has passed with no repercussions for tripping Knox, I no longer even think about it.
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ya.. thats how i look at it .. now my outlook would be different if i had to deal with sammy directly :angel:

Colnart said:
but you have to have tmobile premium handset protection or jump program for tmobile right ? or else you'll have to stuck with samsung warranty service
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raw2000j said:
Correct
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Not true, at least technically. Even if you don't have handset protection or jump program, if your phone is still under warranty you can utilize T-Mobile replacement phone program where tmobile will send you a replacement phone first, then you send your phone to tmobile. Tmobile will send the phone back to the manufacturer for you. Tmobile will also check if the phone is defective and eligible for the warranty. If it is, then your replacement phone will be free minus $20 service charge. If it's not, then you will be charged for the replacement phone.

9/10 you will run into someone that checks for knox/root/any kind of tampering when you return a phone.
Knox is only affected when you return it to a Samsung Service center. They check for that, and if it is flagged they will return your device. Going into a T-Mobile store they don't know anything about knox let alone root.

Colnart said:
but you have to have tmobile premium handset protection or jump program for tmobile right ? or else you'll have to stuck with samsung warranty service
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Nope. I returned a Knox-tripped Note 3 to T-Mobile with their standard warranty (had to pay $20) and had no problems. They really do not care about Knox at all.
You will only have a problem if you personally send the phone directly to Samsung for repair.

What about reselling your phone later? Aren't most users (not us) weary of buying rooted or Knox tripped phones? This is one reason I try not to trip my phone as I feel I will get more buyers interested if my phone was stock.
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raw2000j said:
I deal with tmobile I usually unroot return to stock and send back never a problem.Knox can go to hell for all I care
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Agreed. That's what I love about T-Mobile. Or one of the things. With JUMP! program I can upgrade to the newest device and have insurance included. No problems yet.

Do warranty centers accept your Note 4 with knox 0x1? Discuss your experience here!

So, while I'm still unsure whether to root my Note 4 or not, I would like to discuss about your experiences with warranty centers and whether they care about knox counter or ROM that is running. I live in Europe and as far as rooting is concerned, it looks like we have better laws than people in the other continents. If you, by any chance, already had your phone sent for warranty, can share your experience here and whether your phone was accepted for repairing?

Sent my note4 back to samsung.Rooted and knox status 0x1.No problem at all phone was fixed without any questions.Country:Netherlands.

aartvv said:
Sent my note4 back to samsung.Rooted and knox status 0x1.No problem at all phone was fixed without any questions.Country:Netherlands.
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Wow, I might just root then!

Tauras said:
Wow, I might just root then!
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Be careful dude. Aartvv comes from Netherland, country where a lot of things is allowed

cornelito said:
Be careful dude. Aartvv comes from Netherland, country where a lot of things is allowed
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I think I'll try to root. Not sure if repair centers are experienced enough to know about knox counter. I can always just flash the stock rom and just ignore the 0x1. I'll see what others say.

EUROPE has the best warranties, no matter what electronic item you buy. USA has the worst, only 1 year, and you have to fight hard sometimes to get warranty honored. I have a N910C and I am in USA atm, I'm SURE this phone is NOT covered by warranty here because it is not an American model. Similar thing happened to my galaxy S3 i9300, I asked Samsung for a screen replacement, and I was willing to pay, but then they refused because it is an international model.
So if you are in Europe, just root away!

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EUROPE has the best warranties, no matter what electronic item you buy. USA has the worst, only 1 year, and you have to fight hard sometimes to get warranty honored. I have a N910C and I am in USA atm, I'm SURE this phone is NOT covered by warranty here because it is not an American model. Similar thing happened to my galaxy S3 i9300, I asked Samsung for a screen replacement, and I was willing to pay, but then they refused because it is an international model.
So if you are in Europe, just root away!
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Sometimes that does matter. I bought a Nokia lumia 1520 and even with proof of purchase they wouldn't cover it because it was a 1520 that wasn't made for the European market. I'd have to send it in to that market to get it fixed. I understand completely. But if it were a European device purchased in Europe, they'd have to fix it. So yes, you can root and have it under warranty unless you actually change the software or hardware to a point that it burns out the phone... Besides that, you're pretty much golden.

I haven't had a need to send in my phone yet, but I did report an issue(pocket wake/pocket dialing because of home button wake) that I as a user could only fix by rooting (I don't plan on rooting) and the service rep told me they'd "reset" the phone once(flash stock firmware, and set counter to 0)
Sony's service really surprised me once.
I had dropped a flashlight right on my e-reader's screen causing a few pixels to rupture, and they fixed it for free even though that kind of damage could only come from mishandling.

Thanks!!! I already rooted my Note 4!!! So good to be back here after the awesome Note II development! And yes, I live in Europe and my phone is from here!

Any news for Germany carriers. .I want to root my note 4 and i am not sure for warranty. .

Regarding Italy I don't have firsthand experience (and knock on wood I won't have to), but from what I'm reading on forums they don't honor the warranty if knox 0x1.

elevul said:
Regarding Italy I don't have firsthand experience (and knock on wood I won't have to), but from what I'm reading on forums they don't honor the warranty if knox 0x1.
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+1 in hungary. I have a hardware issue and they dont repir it because of knox 0x1

cornelito said:
Be careful dude. Aartvv comes from Netherland, country where a lot of things is allowed
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The service center manger he sent his phone to was very high on weed :angel:

The easiest way would be to use the search function and get all information, that you need.
Why Samsung KNOX trigger bothers us - and should not!
The link redirects you to an older post of mine, where I explain, what KNOX really does and in which way it is important to us.
The shortcut to my answer is, you can give a sh** about Knox. Knox is only interesting for enterprise purposes.

in Mexico, carrier telcel, rooting does not void warranty, they even accept your device without proof of purchase, if it was sold by them

Note 4 housing
Hey guys
Have anyone gone back to try to replace the housing of the phone?
It s a bit scratched up, I understand I would need to pay for it. That is fine. But to do so would warranty or Knox 0x1 come into play and have them rejecting me?
Thank you

They MUST repair your phone here in Holland. Even if it is rooted and flashed with other firmware

i wrote to one of the certified repair centers in my town (Kaunas, Lithuania. Europe) . Asking specificly if i loose the warranty fully or retain any of it (like if it's a software failure i have to pay but if it's hardware i can get off) and they replied that they count the warranty voided under any circumstances if the knox is tripped.
i'll try to write to the samsung reps, see what their stand on this is. maby if i tripped knox and carried the phone to the service they would take it as long as i don't run in screaming that my knox is 0x1......

wiebenik said:
They MUST repair your phone here in Holland. Even if it is rooted and flashed with other firmware
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I wonder if it's the same in Belgium.

In the UK, no dice.
I contacted the carphone warehouse after my wifi refused to connect and when it did connect, would drop out within a few minutes. the list of wifi networks would just show disabled.
I took it to the carphone warehouse in newcastle, was able to reproduce the problem with their in store wifi.. I booked it in for repair. They sent it off for repair I think since it took 10 days.
When I went back, He told me that the device had been rooted in the past, gave me the phone back with "user error" on the receipt. So if you trip the warranty knox counter, they wont touch it.
Phone sold for spares.

SM-N960W

Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..

You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?

AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.

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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.

Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days

Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features

bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks

bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.

Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams

bober10113 said:
i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.

Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.

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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though

elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL

Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked

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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.

Frodobongins said:
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.

DAGr8 said:
Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.

960F Go with Android One update or root?

Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!

Mitachibana said:
Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!
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You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.

willhemmens said:
You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.
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Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.

Mitachibana said:
Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.
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Good choice in updating to One UI. Since if you did root the it would need you to unlock your bootloader and that will trigger the Knox safety thingy in the chip making Knox permantely disabled after and then you cannot use any of the Knox features like Samsung pass, Samsung Pay, secret folder and I think even encryption is protected by Knox which probably makes it broken aswell but I could be wrong on that part. But apps using Knox wont function anymore since they require working Knox, to work.

To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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rajil.s said:
To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.

I have an unlocked bootloader but my knox is not tripped. Samsung Pay and Secure folder still work for me.
Phone Info app also shows Knox is not tripped!
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Jake.S said:
Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.
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Firstly,
I agree fully with @rajil.s post above.!
if you "talking" about OEM unlock /Bootloader, trips Knox, then you are incorrect or confused or under a wrong impression.?
I have multi times unlock ( OEM) my Bootloader ( but did not root)
I have done this with my old and current Note devices.
I even "tested" OEM unlocking regarding the disappearance of the OEM option, when factory reseting. (this was a big issue in the Note 8 forum, you can read my post, i posted at that time )
I locked and unlocked the OEM option in Developers Settings, multiple times.
No tripping of Knox but yes, if you go further rooting... !
All my devices is still 0 x 0 .
Knox intact.
Also i have apps eg Samsung Pay all working fine.
Good luck.