Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!
Mitachibana said:
Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!
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You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.
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You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.
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Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.
Mitachibana said:
Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.
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Good choice in updating to One UI. Since if you did root the it would need you to unlock your bootloader and that will trigger the Knox safety thingy in the chip making Knox permantely disabled after and then you cannot use any of the Knox features like Samsung pass, Samsung Pay, secret folder and I think even encryption is protected by Knox which probably makes it broken aswell but I could be wrong on that part. But apps using Knox wont function anymore since they require working Knox, to work.
To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.
I have an unlocked bootloader but my knox is not tripped. Samsung Pay and Secure folder still work for me.
Phone Info app also shows Knox is not tripped!
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Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.
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Firstly,
I agree fully with @rajil.s post above.!
if you "talking" about OEM unlock /Bootloader, trips Knox, then you are incorrect or confused or under a wrong impression.?
I have multi times unlock ( OEM) my Bootloader ( but did not root)
I have done this with my old and current Note devices.
I even "tested" OEM unlocking regarding the disappearance of the OEM option, when factory reseting. (this was a big issue in the Note 8 forum, you can read my post, i posted at that time )
I locked and unlocked the OEM option in Developers Settings, multiple times.
No tripping of Knox but yes, if you go further rooting... !
All my devices is still 0 x 0 .
Knox intact.
Also i have apps eg Samsung Pay all working fine.
Good luck.
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will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
rtubbs85 said:
will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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Those are from 2 years ago IVe had rooted phones since then.
What I'm saying is if they said that back then why was I able to get root on other phones?
Root <> unlocked bootloader....
That being said, no one knows if it will get root or not. It depends if a suitable exploit is discovered to do it. 5.1.1 plugs a few of the known exploits, so it won't happen the exact same way it did in the S6.
Only time will tell.
Also keep in mind that root can mean different things too... Permanent, temporary, root but with no system modification, etc... No one knows which we will get, if any.
keep in mind that most of the talented Devs have abandoned Samsung, so that might make it even worse
Doesn't the Note 5 have the same hardware as the S6/S6E? Seems like it should be able to be done like those phones but I don't know if that's true or not.
I'm thinking about getting this phone, but will hold off until proven root on AT&T.
I just saw this article, so maybe I'll stay with my HTC:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
The Verizon and AT&T models have a carrier specific mechanism, which is apart of the Samsung Knox Security Suite, Samsung Knox director of business development Ram Motipally detailed to iDigitalTimes at a recent briefing in New York prior to the Galaxy Note 5 and S6 Edge+ launch. “In most of the U.S. devices, if you root the device the device won’t even boot up; if it’s AT&T or Verizon,” he said.
I've unlocked my handset and now want to change the boot/shutdown animations from the ugly Telstra ones to the stock Samsung ones. Has anyone successfully rooted the SM-G800Y (Telstra) handset yet? I did have a quick look at Chainfires Auto Root and the SM-G800Y is listed, but it's a different firmware version. Plus it makes references to Knox. What is Knox? I haven't tried to root a phone in over 3 years now so I'm out of the game when it comes to these "new" technologies?
KNOX (in the context of the bootloader and by relation the Odin utility, which I assume is to what you're referring) is Samsung's way of keeping track of warranties. Once the Knox flag is tripped, you lose the manufacturer warranty permanently. It burns an e-fuse AFAIK, so there's no way to reverse it and AutoRoot will most certainly trip it, but who cares about warranties? As far as differing firmware numbers for CF-AutoRoot goes, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/help/rooting-g800f-firmware-g800fxxu1aoe3-t3146230 (Read the whole thing). But I wouldn't worry, as the G800Y's firmware package is available to download, so you can always try again. Have fun with root!
Wow that sounds kind of depressing. An e-fuse? Like in Mission Impossible where the message device explodes lol. Hmm it doesn't sound like it's worth it unless there's a root method that does not trigger Knox.
I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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No.
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ice5192 said:
I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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They're all the same exact device.
Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
ice5192 said:
Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
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Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
replica9000 said:
I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
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Nope.
Lol. How is "no" a useless answer to a yes or no question? That fully answered the question asked ?
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Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
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So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?
>Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?<
I haven't upgraded since the Note 3 where I can get root without tripping Knox, block OS updates, and get root back any tine I want to. That it why I killed the Note 3's ability to update the OS, and why I didn't get the Note 4, 5, 6, and now am checking in on 8 and 9 to see where things are today. Now they are taking away the ability to record our own phone calls with "P", so I'm checking out where root is today before I upgrade. These capabilities we use for invoicing our time and business automation is a major reason for choosing Android. If Android is attempting to be like the iPhone, then we might as well buy iPhones. I'm not interested in only Google and the NSA having access to my conversations. I know some Android vendors are going around Google/Android and building it into the hardware, but that limits me to their phones.
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
bober10113 said:
i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.
Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL
Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.
Samsung has really disappointed me with the SM-988U locked bootloader. I was away with iPhone for awhile.but always liked the ability to customize with android and Samsung. My last being the Nexus. Now I have the s21 ultra US Verizon phone. Locked down tight as all get out! Sucks! So much potential to make this an awesome handset! Shame on you Samsung and Verizon!
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Samsung has really disappointed me with the SM-988U locked bootloader. I was away with iPhone for awhile.but always liked the ability to customize with android and Samsung. My last being the Nexus. Now I have the s21 ultra US Verizon phone. Locked down tight as all get out! Sucks! So much potential to make this an awesome handset! Shame on you Samsung and Verizon!
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Welcome to 4 years ago lol. They did that starting with the S8. If you need to have an unlockable bootloader, you should've done a little research. Also, it's a north American thing with the carriers. The international model isn't as locked down.
The only real advantage in US Carrier Branded devices is if you're on their network you'll have access to their Call Features. Other than that it's a poor option when one considers all the features you'll sacrifice. Unlocked Bootloader, e-Sim or Dual Sims, 512GB Internal Storage, No Bloatware, Timely OTA Updates and no Multi-Year Service Contract. Why buy a Carrier Branded device? I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. Best to look before you leap! FYI - You still have the ability to unlock your bootloader depending on which UI Version you have but it cost $$$ for the service and has a few consequences.
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Welcome to 4 years ago lol. They did that starting with the S8. If you need to have an unlockable bootloader, you should've done a little research. Also, it's a north American thing with the carriers. The international model isn't as locked down.
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Yeah, it's a bummer for sure!
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The only real advantage in US Carrier Branded devices is if you're on their network you'll have access to their Call Features. Other than that it's a poor option when one considers all the features you'll sacrifice. Unlocked Bootloader, e-Sim or Dual Sims, 512GB Internal Storage, No Bloatware, Timely OTA Updates and no Multi-Year Service Contract. Why buy a Carrier Branded device? I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. Best to look before you leap! FYI - You still have the ability to unlock your bootloader depending on which UI Version you have but it cost $$$ for the service and has a few consequences.
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Yeah unfortunately my phone came already on BL ver 3 so out of luck on the pay to unlock option.
But you are saying that when the s22 drops I can buy the international unlocked version and be able to avoid all the problems I now have? I couldn't care less about Knox or samsungs apps. Verizon apps for that matter too. I will give that up easily to have root and full ownership of my device
As a user of the international version (EU), I'm surprised that Samsung still locks down the BL.
You really don't need to root. Countless threads on rooting gone bad here.
If it's a carrier phone it would void the warranty and insurance if any.
On a carrier phone the first thing I do is disable the carrier OTA updates, destroyer of worlds.
Remember Samsung is partnered with the carriers, both provide input for firmware and software.
Blame your carrier for much of this
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You really don't need to root. Countless threads on rooting gone bad here.
If it's a carrier phone it would void the warranty and insurance if any.
On a carrier phone the first thing I do is disable the carrier OTA updates, destroyer of worlds.
Remember Samsung is partnered with the carriers, both provide input for firmware and software.
Blame your carrier for much of this
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Any advice how to disable OTA all I've been able to do is postpone. But after 20 days they force the update
Wolfofphx said:
Any advice how to disable OTA all I've been able to do is postpone. But after 20 days they force the update
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It's as insidious as malware. I think it's stored in the system cache after download so clearing the cache should purge it. Otherwise a factory reset.
Once installed though, game over.
I use this app to kill it:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
There's also this one linked in this thread but I haven't tested it:
Galaxy Note 10 / Note 10+ Plus Debloat / bloatware removal list
Hey everyone! New phone, new debloat / bloatware removal list! Please see my original post from the Galaxy S8 to see the XDA article on how to do this. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/s8-debloat-bloatware-thread-t3669009...
forum.xda-developers.com
AT&T* tech support can disable OTA on their end, yes they really can. You may need to beat them up a bit but it can be disabled. A package disabler is the easiest plus you can disable other pesky apks. I have about 90 disabled, some I toggle on/off as needed.
*presumably Verizon, etc can do the same. I had to lean on AT&T pretty hard to get it done... a stone cold pleasure
It's only applies to that one device not the account.
From your title, I thought Samsung is partnering with Facebook, or something.
Wolfofphx said:
Yeah unfortunately my phone came already on BL ver 3 so out of luck on the pay to unlock option.
But you are saying that when the s22 drops I can buy the international unlocked version and be able to avoid all the problems I now have? I couldn't care less about Knox or samsungs apps. Verizon apps for that matter too. I will give that up easily to have root and full ownership of my device
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While no one knows for certain what changes Samsung will incorporate into the S22, based on their recent offerings it's likely they will still offer unlocked bootloaders on their global variants. The major US Carriers are the reason bootloaders remained locked tight in the US but there's always hope a savvy developer will create a functional workaround.