I've unlocked my handset and now want to change the boot/shutdown animations from the ugly Telstra ones to the stock Samsung ones. Has anyone successfully rooted the SM-G800Y (Telstra) handset yet? I did have a quick look at Chainfires Auto Root and the SM-G800Y is listed, but it's a different firmware version. Plus it makes references to Knox. What is Knox? I haven't tried to root a phone in over 3 years now so I'm out of the game when it comes to these "new" technologies?
KNOX (in the context of the bootloader and by relation the Odin utility, which I assume is to what you're referring) is Samsung's way of keeping track of warranties. Once the Knox flag is tripped, you lose the manufacturer warranty permanently. It burns an e-fuse AFAIK, so there's no way to reverse it and AutoRoot will most certainly trip it, but who cares about warranties? As far as differing firmware numbers for CF-AutoRoot goes, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/help/rooting-g800f-firmware-g800fxxu1aoe3-t3146230 (Read the whole thing). But I wouldn't worry, as the G800Y's firmware package is available to download, so you can always try again. Have fun with root!
Wow that sounds kind of depressing. An e-fuse? Like in Mission Impossible where the message device explodes lol. Hmm it doesn't sound like it's worth it unless there's a root method that does not trigger Knox.
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Does rooting void my warranty? And i can unroot it fully ? By fully i mean is there a counter associated with rooting similar to knox counter in Samsung?
veenab said:
Does rooting void my warranty? And i can unroot it fully ? By fully i mean is there a counter associated with rooting similar to knox counter in Samsung?
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There are various different schools of thinking here. I take my answer from when I had a nexus 5 - in that if you unlocked, Google didnt care - which meant if you bought from Play, you were fine. However, if you bought elsewhere, you had to send it to LG and they routinely refused warranty on unlocked phones, regardless of how many laws they "broke" by doing that. With the 5, there was a tamper flag, but I haven't seen any evidence that one exists on the 6 yet, meaning relocking it *should* be fine if you can.
After a year of owning my Note 3, I fell out of contract and was tired of paying $120+ for 2 gigs of data and $15 for each additional gig through our phone's original carrier, so I switched to Cricket. Cricket was eventually bought out by AT&T, the very entity I tried to escape, and due to certain circumstances, I recently went through a very painful process of putting the phone back on AT&T as a BYOD.
Rooting my phone seemed scary at the time, as I was foolishly led to believe the world was over if your phone was rooted improperly or tripped KNOX, but my KNOX proudly states 0x00 after many flashes. However, after 3 years what exactly does KNOX do for long out of warranty phones? If some kind of similar recall with the Note 7 happened would Samsung not reimburse you if KNOX was tripped? Are there certain non-bloatware apps that rely on KNOX? I remember my stock had some KNOX apps but none of them seemed too interesting and even without modification crashed frequently.
Or does the development community just see it as a challenge? Hmm... I can understand that, actually.
Knox was never important to me but I did not start flashing non Samsung software until the warranty period was over. I didn't want Samsung to deny a warranty claim because Knox was at 1 instead of 0.
With a locked bootloader like the one found on the AT&T note 3, getting back to stock is not always possible with Odin since AT&T never released a full firmware release beyond 4.3.
Attention samsung we know you spy on us here on xda. We have a major complaint and wish for you to allow our devices to have it's bootloader unlocked. I have checked your company's code in sboot.bin and it has this code in it: "get_oem_unlock_val" and theres hidden jpg files in param.bin (you can open the file as an archive in 7 zip) It has a file named unlock_L.jpg which will show an unlock icon and the word custom. Why would you waste time putting this in the bootloader if you wasn't intending to let us (your customers) use it. We demand an update to allow us to unlock the bootloader. We will not set here and watch our rights as consumers to use our device as we choose be thrown out the window. There's a reason us android fans hate IOS and iphones and that is because it is all proprietary bull crap and we want freedom. Here is the link to a petition i made weeks ago to samsung on change.org: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-unlock-the-bootloader-on-the-j3-prime?recruiter=69539793&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_content=nafta_copylink_shortlink_1%3Acontrol
Update: Samsung has not responded to our demands. and they have decided to randomly stop making the android oreo update. I was told by samsung themselves that the j3 prime from metropcs and tmobile will get android oreo. I feel lied to. Everyone should keep contacting the customer care center of your carrier and samsung both. We should not rest until our demands are met. I refuse to let my efforts of over a year trying to get root go out the window.
Remember this quote: "those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither."
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I have added a poll to the thread so everyone can vote. this is another way to show samsung how much we care.
watch this samsung!: https://youtu.be/Q07uesnjuPg & https://youtu.be/gpVocvREboo
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I made a post in the offical samsung forums: [Url deleted since post was deleted on samsungs site.]
No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.
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No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.
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You do have a good point. I am guessing samsung is just looking at the needs of the many vs the needs of the few but at this point this is our only option unless someone finds an exploit which could take a year or more to find. If i could get a bootloader unlocked device lg is the way to go but it will be years before i get a new device.
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You do have a good point. I am guessing samsung is just looking at the needs of the many vs the needs of the few but at this point this is our only option unless someone finds an exploit which could take a year or more to find. If i could get a bootloader unlocked device lg is the way to go but it will be years before i get a new device.
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Me too, I'm totally out of luck at this point
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No matter how much you beg or how many people sign this petition I can pretty much guarantee Samsung will not respond.
The simple fact is, people wanting root or an unlocked bootloader are a minority as far as Samsung are concerned.
The majority of people who use bootloader locked devices are unaware of what root even is or a locked bootloader.
Unfortunately those who require Admin access to their devices are insignificant in the big picture.
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I found a solution to our locked bootloader issue. it will require ordering from samsungs website. The model of the unlocked variant of the j3 prime is: SM-J327U it is has oem unlock in developer options, it is unlocked for all carriers, and the bootloader is unlocked completely. looks like twrp can be built for this device. and also i confirm that the device is rooted with the j327t cf autoroot. another guy in another thread has stated he has root.
Attention samsung i have found that you are in violation of federal law which allows us consumers to root or flash a custom rom or recovery. Also you cannot void warranty for rooting or flashing custom firmware according to an article i read made in 2016. On behalf of the community we demand our bootloaders to be able to be unlocked. We are getting sick of relying on exploits which can be really bad to use as hackers use it to get control of our phones. All phones from 2017 onward need to be unlocked regardless of carrier. We do not live in north korea so stop treating us like we are slaves!!!
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Attention samsung i have found that you are in violation of federal law which allows us consumers to root or flash a custom rom or recovery. Also you cannot void warranty for rooting or flashing custom firmware according to an article i read made in 2016. On behalf of the community we demand our bootloaders to be able to be unlocked. We are getting sick of relying on exploits which can be really bad to use as hackers use it to get control of our phones. All phones from 2017 onward need to be unlocked regardless of carrier. We do not live in north korea so stop treating us like we are slaves!!!
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Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.
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Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.
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Well that is a valid reason. But i think people should check this out: https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlock-root-pixel-2-skipsoft-toolkit/
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Well that is a valid reason. But i think people should check this out: https://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader-unlock-root-pixel-2-skipsoft-toolkit/
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Not sure what angle your aiming at, but it won't have any use for this device?
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Not trying to defend anyone, but Samsung has it's reasons for this. They are trying to protect subsidy. So say for example Samsung makes different 737 models to different carriers such as T-mobile or ATT. T-mobile or ATT want the customers to be using their plan. If the phone's could be unlocked, you could simply buy the cheapest model and use it for any carrier. As for unlocking the bootloader or rooting, any android phone with Android 7.0 or higher is difficult to root. All the one click root methods i've tried such as Kingroot for multiple different phones such as Samsung, ZTE, LG.. all failed. All we can do is wait for a master hacker to find a work around.
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I think they should allow it, and only make one model of each phone!
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I think they should allow it, and only make one model of each phone!
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Well that would require all cell phone companies to program the device for their market when it is shipped to the company which is inefficient. Cell phone companies request a device catered to how their network works. If you have verizon and you try to get a phone with a GSM radio to work on it you will be wasting time because it wont work. Maybe if all companies switch to cdma or gsm it will be practical to make one model for all carriers.
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Well that would require all cell phone companies to program the device for their market when it is shipped to the company which is inefficient. Cell phone companies request a device catered to how their network works. If you have verizon and you try to get a phone with a GSM radio to work on it you will be wasting time because it wont work. Maybe if all companies switch to cdma or gsm it will be practical to make one model for all carriers.
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That's untrue of the S7 edge, same modems and all as unlocked variant!!
I recently purchased 4 brand new sprint note 8's from Ebay (for a small company). In hindsight I think I should of opted for the unlocked version but I'm here now. My question is what would it take to unlock the phones and flash with unlocked software? I ask because I'm a little PO'ed that sprint takes away a few features native to Samsung (looking at you Hyia caller id). There's apps that can take care of all that, but that's besides the point.
I'm looking for pro's and cons to what that would do. Coming from a rooted S6 and having played with the note 8 I didn't see any reason to root until now. But I think if I root it locks me out of other features? Samsung Pay? And sprint won't fix if I make any insurance claim?
Is there any way to go through all that and then turn root back off? Again, coming from the S6 as my last bit of rooting experience (couldn't turn knox counter off, so Samsung pay never worked....).
Any suggestions?
tl;dr, should probably go with unlocked phones next time to avoid the bs
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should probably go with unlocked phones next time to avoid the bs
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Search function in the forum. Look for carrier switching. Are you using them for sprint?
If you go to unlocked XXA you will get the other features but loose wifi-calling and sprint calling plus.
You can download the new sprint zone form play store now so thats a non issue.
If you understand how to put together your own flash-able rom you could pull the stuff for sprint and add to xxa and get both parts but its not something ive seen floating around here.
Ultimately sprint has a paid version of Samsung feature for the caller id part, if thats the only thing you want there are a ton of other free alternative. (soft fix) Sprint isn't going to fix a personal issue you have with their device setup lol, they charge for premium caller id and Samsung/sprint wont change that part, most carriers charge for it as its "premium"
I have a optimized rom for the note 8 (sprint users) but you will be limited to 80% battery charge, spay and secure folder are broken. With the new safestrap recovery you can atleast un-root and re-root from the device to get around apps that scan for root and be able to use them, with my custom rom having edits in /system you will never achieve spay etc , this is reversible by just odin to stock software again and back to stock, the current root methods do not effect knox or warranty.
If i unlocked it can i use gsm sim form Bangladesh?
Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!
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Hello everyone, I had a quick question.
For those with experience using Android Pie/One on the Note 9, how is it? Do you think it is better than Oreo 8.1 overall? Battery life?
I have the 960F/DS Singapore model with Exynos (512GB model, currently using Japan Softbank SIM). I received notification to update to Android One. I have postponed it but fear that it will force itself upon me soon. I typically like to keep my phones on the original OS version it was released with and am considering rooting the Note 9 to avoid the upgrade.
Its a tough choice. I used to root a lot but the stock Note 9 is the first phone that seemed to not require root. My unlocked model barely had any bloatware on it! Not even a calculator app!
Arigatou from Japan!
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You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.
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You shouldn't call it Android One, that's something completely different. The Note 9 Pie update is called One UI.
How is it? There's multiple threads asking this, here's some:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
I can understand keeping older phones on their original Android versions but IMO, the Note 9 should have had Pie/One UI on release.
Also you can now easily de-bloat phones without root now with ADB.
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Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.
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Thanks for your help! I tried searching the forum before posting but I must have searched wrong.
I ended up doing the Android Pie update. In the end, it would be unwise to pass up on future updates, especially for this feature packed phone. So far so good. The interface is a little too apple like however.
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Good choice in updating to One UI. Since if you did root the it would need you to unlock your bootloader and that will trigger the Knox safety thingy in the chip making Knox permantely disabled after and then you cannot use any of the Knox features like Samsung pass, Samsung Pay, secret folder and I think even encryption is protected by Knox which probably makes it broken aswell but I could be wrong on that part. But apps using Knox wont function anymore since they require working Knox, to work.
To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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To be clear, unlocking the bootloader (OEM unlock) does not cause knox to get tripped.
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Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.
I have an unlocked bootloader but my knox is not tripped. Samsung Pay and Secure folder still work for me.
Phone Info app also shows Knox is not tripped!
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Wrong it does trip the Knox chip even Samsung themselves have warned about it.
Even users out there who have unlocked their bootloader have had their 0x0 status triggered to 0x1 on their Knox when unlocking bootloader (OEM) - simply as that doing it avoids the warranty. This is why it triggers Knox to show Samsung authorized technicians that this phone no longer have warranty.
But some have said status have simply bugged and stayed as 0x0 but Knox chip itself is still triggered.
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Firstly,
I agree fully with @rajil.s post above.!
if you "talking" about OEM unlock /Bootloader, trips Knox, then you are incorrect or confused or under a wrong impression.?
I have multi times unlock ( OEM) my Bootloader ( but did not root)
I have done this with my old and current Note devices.
I even "tested" OEM unlocking regarding the disappearance of the OEM option, when factory reseting. (this was a big issue in the Note 8 forum, you can read my post, i posted at that time )
I locked and unlocked the OEM option in Developers Settings, multiple times.
No tripping of Knox but yes, if you go further rooting... !
All my devices is still 0 x 0 .
Knox intact.
Also i have apps eg Samsung Pay all working fine.
Good luck.