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3G Reception and Battery Life

Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a Diamond 2 to replace my iPhone 3G. I'm wondering how the 3G reception and battery life compare with the iPhone.
Best regards, Simon.

sjbale said:
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a Diamond 2 to replace my iPhone 3G. I'm wondering how the 3G reception and battery life compare with the iPhone.
Best regards, Simon.
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1. 3G reception is similar to iPhone 3G...unfortunately
2. battery life depends on usage, I'd say it is comparable
I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed with the Diamond 2.
I can't see real differences compared to the Diamond, maybe the better camera (it really takes good pictures in good light but the object doesn't need to move), the better (bigger) display, the improved Touchflo (still MILES away from iPhone usability) and the pretty loud loudspeaker. Reception, especially 3G, is subpar compared to devices like Nokia E75 or E90.
HTC urgently needs to address the reception issues but I'm really not sure a radio FW update will substantially improve things, I can only hope for it.

[Q] Poor wifi performance

For those who have the device, how does your wifi signal strength compare. Sitting at my desk, I get no bars now where on my OneX I got 2 or 3.

pinn___________ said:
For those who have the device, how does your wifi signal strength compare. Sitting at my desk, I get no bars now where on my OneX I got 2 or 3.
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Same issue here on a phone from O2 with the latest software installed.
Compared to an iphone 5 struggles to hang onto signal. Tried both bands as well, same issue.

I can see my work wifi in a location I frequent with previous phones.
I can connect and use it even though it gives me just a dot for the signal. other phones struggle in this same location.
Perhaps try turning off Wifi power saving in the settings
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Has turning wifi power saving off, has this helped?.. for me this has made no difference
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No wifi issues here what so ever

yeah its pretty bad for me. next room and i'm down to "1 bar" when on all of my other devices i'd get 4 or 5

guys from what I've seen don't go by the little signal strength indicator on the notification bar as it doesn't really reflect what's actually happening, I had a XZU for a few weeks and a Z before that, I can pick up wifi connections on both the XZU and Z1 were the Z was out of range, I was sitting in a bar last night connected to a wifi AP that was about 100m away and there are structures and people in-between, the Z1 is as good as the ZU when connecting to wifi and both are better than the Z

Check with this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer
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pinn___________ said:
For those who have the device, how does your wifi signal strength compare. Sitting at my desk, I get no bars now where on my OneX I got 2 or 3.
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Wifi on my Z1 C6903 seems really poor.
Connected to 5Ghz on a dual band wifi router situated in the tv room. I don't get any connectivity from my room which is around 10m away.
I used to get decent connectivity on my iphone 5 - speedtest of around 14mbps. I can't even connect to speedtest on my Z1.
On a sidenote - what is with the headphone button not working. Had to update to .534 after much googling. Also, the new firmware doesn't help the wifi issues. Who knows how long we'll have to wait for a fix ...which may or may not improve it.
Also, did try to turn off the wifi power saving "feature" as well. Didn't do much.
Anyways that's my feedback.

same here! very bad connection with the xperia z1.

Yep poor wifi performance, I hope we get a software fix soon

Same here, disconnects from wifi a lot.
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Id just like to know, Wifi is that bad, compared to what?
Regards

Flashmore said:
Id just like to know, Wifi is that bad, compared to what?
Regards
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In OP, I said compared to my previous phone. Also, have trouble with mobile data being very slow. With that being said, I have moved provider to EE but they are supposed to have decent coverage.
Not sure now whether to return and get a new one or get the Notes 3 instead.

maverick1103 said:
Same here, disconnects from wifi a lot.
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No Wi-fi issues here at all.. Even with the door closed, when I got to the next room, get plenty of signal and speed...
pinn___________ said:
In OP, I said compared to my previous phone. Also, have trouble with mobile data being very slow. With that being said, I have moved provider to EE but they are supposed to have decent coverage.
Not sure now whether to return and get a new one or get the Notes 3 instead.
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You might want to move to 4G... EE 3G is so slow... I get 10 times the speed I used to get on EE 3G now that I'm on EE 4G...

Sean473 said:
No Wi-fi issues here at all.. Even with the door closed, when I got to the next room, get plenty of signal and speed...
You might want to move to 4G... EE 3G is so slow... I get 10 times the speed I used to get on EE 3G now that I'm on EE 4G...
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No 4g where I'm at yet - promised by Xmas....

Sean473 said:
No Wi-fi issues here at all.. Even with the door closed, when I got to the next room, get plenty of signal and speed...
You might want to move to 4G... EE 3G is so slow... I get 10 times the speed I used to get on EE 3G now that I'm on EE 4G...
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I've turned off the the wifi optimisation off, it seems to of helped but still not as good as the wifi on the HTC One.
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Flashmore said:
Id just like to know, Wifi is that bad, compared to what?
Regards
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HTC One
Galaxy S4
iPhone 5
iPhone 5S
Basically it is rubbish so far. The signal and speed is not as good as other devices.
Interested in hearing more from people who say it is fine.
Fine compared to what? Can you give examples?
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As an example between Z1 and a 5S.
Same router, same distance.
Speedtest.net app on each phone.
Z1
Ping: 248ms
Down: 0.42
Up: 1.25
5S
Ping: 45ms
Down: 17.49
Up: 2.5
(I have around 20mbit fibre with around 3-4mbit up)

How frustrating, I was looking at upgrading to this phone, and reading most of the posts floating around I am having huge deja vu experiences with the newly launched Xperia Z and the pains associated with being some of the first. I feel for you all.
While we are talking WIFI, anyone tested the 802.11ac bands?

maverick1103 said:
I've turned off the the wifi optimisation off, it seems to of helped but still not as good as the wifi on the HTC One.
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I did a proper test yesterday. Closed my living room door (living room is where router is) and closed my own room's door... Got plenty of signal and about 33Mb/s which is good considering my connection is a 50Mb/s one.. Get about 48 on my laptop which is very near router...Don't see any issues here

If not Droid Turbo than what?

The Wifi Lag issue is killing me! Still no Lollipop, I miss root, but I still have my s4.
My question is, If I returned my phone what phone would you get? I love the 5.2 inch screen and the 20 meg camera. The M9 will be a 5 inch screen and verizon has not eta. Suggestions Please

No doubt next step up will be the note 4 or N6

rsalas187 said:
The Wifi Lag issue is killing me! Still no Lollipop, I miss root, but I still have my s4.
My question is, If I returned my phone what phone would you get? I love the 5.2 inch screen and the 20 meg camera. The M9 will be a 5 inch screen and verizon has not eta. Suggestions Please
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Which wifi issue? Ive seen it mentioned in passing, but never had it.

adrynalyne said:
Which wifi issue? Ive seen it mentioned in passing, but never had it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/slow-wifi-lag-google-services-apps-t3035266

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/slow-wifi-lag-google-services-apps-t3035266
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Ah. I have that issue at work but not at home. I run DD-WRT at home.
Gotta be a router chipset incompatibility with whatever the Turbo uses.

adrynalyne said:
Ah. I have that issue at work but not at home. I run DD-WRT at home.
Gotta be a router chipset incompatibility with whatever the Turbo uses.
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I notice more issues on 802.11ac 5 ghz networks, I switch to a 2.4ghz network and the problem goes away. It's how the phone handles wifi networks and should be resolved in a patch. At Home I have 2.4 and 5

rsalas187 said:
I notice more issues on 802.11ac networks, when I switch to a 2.4ghz network from 5ghz it goes away. It's how the phone handles wifi networks and should be resolved in a patch. At Home I have both.
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I advanced Wi-Fi settings, I have "2.4Ghz only".
No issues, except for when it tries to grab passing AT&T hotspots while driving, but yet too far to actually transmit data. Turning off Wi-Fi while driving is the only way to solve that.

Yeah, not a lot of other choices, I was actually thinking about it last night.
Cost is still a thing too, just as I feared waiting for L and patches the value of
the DT has dropped a fair bit.

Deffinantly the lg g3. If you want, you can wait till the g4 comes out which is soon. I was a turbo owner and root was a deal breaker for me. Switched to the g3 and I'm loving the switch!

Nexus 6 supposed to be on VZW tomorrow finally. Wish I'd waited...

I do sure hope 5.1 brings fixes
WiFi on my Turbo is crippling, yet it works fine on LTE
I've tried dozens of different routers/ISP's/locations, and its definitely the phone

M8....ez to s-off and root....i picked up a new one and now i'm s-off, rooted running lollipop

Obviously you haven't thought of the Passport... http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/0...berry-passport-best-smartphone-readers-choic/ (about halfway down is the results)
Nothing against the Passport... but c'mon, really?
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The Turbo checks off so many marks, honestly I'm not sure what would be much better. I have my doubts about the S6. I think it will be a great device with horrible battery life and no "ruggedness". The M9 will be the M8. I liked the M8 but it was too tall / slippery for me - though the M9 will be slightly shorter and less slippery... so maybe it'll be great. But it's also too pretty (if that makes sense) and I'll be constantly worried about dinging it against things. G4 won't be out for awhile and will be too big for me. G3 is too big for me and gets so-so battery life. G2 is actually still a really great device IMHO (still have one) and a great balance between all the factors except for the plasticky feel. Moto X is great but has mediocre battery life and the camera is even more mediocre than the Turbo's... plus the Lollipop it has on Verizon is buggy.
I guess there's just no perfect device...

I have a M7, G2, and (current daily driver) Moto Maxx. If the Maxx added OIS and an IR blaster, it would probably be my version of a "perfect" phone...but it's still darn good as is (I use DD-WRT and also haven't experienced the lag issue). But I also can't give up my G2.
Do you have anything that can tide you over until more 16 or 14 nm processor phones come out? Those may make a big difference in battery performance. If I could only have one phone until I get the latter, I'd probably go with the (older) G2. They can be picked up for a great price.
I'd love to hear other people's choices...

How is signal strength?

In regards to the iPhone 6, or Note 4? I am wondering if the device has good signal in fringy locations? Does it hold onto LTE in weak areas?

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MattMJB0188 said:
In regards to the iPhone 6, or Note 4? I am wondering if the device has good signal in fringy locations? Does it hold onto LTE in weak areas?
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This^
Every Samsung phone I've had has horrible service. Defaults to 3G when in my pocket and the signal strength is never as good as other brands of phones I've had ( Motorola, Apple, HTC). The only variable being different is the name brand, I've always been on Verizon and lived in the same place. My note 3 always defaulted to 3G, I can count the number of times my iPhone has defaulted to 3G on one hand( not just looking at signal bar strength). I really want the note 5 but if the signal strength is worse or similar( I'm especially worried about the aluminum material used) to other Samsung phones I won't get it. Even if you have the best phone in the world it's only as good as the cell reception.
Thanks in advance.

I can't speak in terms of the note 4 or iPhone, but my previous phone was a Galaxy S4. In my daily life, I definitely notice that the Note 5 has WAY better signal strength than the S4. I used to sit at this bench, but I couldn't use any internet there (not even 3G!) so I stopped. However, my note 5 is picking up LTE 3/4 bars in an area where a 2013 flagship phone couldn't pick anything up . Definitely an upgrade. Sprint btw.

desertboy83 said:
This^
Every Samsung phone I've had has horrible service. Defaults to 3G when in my pocket and the signal strength is never as good as other brands of phones I've had ( Motorola, Apple, HTC). The only variable being different is the name brand, I've always been on Verizon and lived in the same place. My note 3 always defaulted to 3G, I can count the number of times my iPhone has defaulted to 3G on one hand( not just looking at signal bar strength). I really want the note 5 but if the signal strength is worse or similar( I'm especially worried about the aluminum material used) to other Samsung phones I won't get it. Even if you have the best phone in the world it's only as good as the cell reception.
Thanks in advance.
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Yeah this is what I was afraid of. Should be getting the device today. I had read it wasn't the strongest in the signal department, which is why I asked.
zingo1zang said:
I can't speak in terms of the note 4 or iPhone, but my previous phone was a Galaxy S4. In my daily life, I definitely notice that the Note 5 has WAY better signal strength than the S4. I used to sit at this bench, but I couldn't use any internet there (not even 3G!) so I stopped. However, my note 5 is picking up LTE 3/4 bars in an area where a 2013 flagship phone couldn't pick anything up . Definitely an upgrade. Sprint btw.
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Exactly what I wanted to hear. Thank you for clarifying this information.

So???
MattMJB0188 said:
Yeah this is what I was afraid of. Should be getting the device today. I had read it wasn't the strongest in the signal department.
So how is the signal strength? Are you on Verizon?
On a unrelated note ( pun intended). How is the speakerphone compared to iPhone 6? Another shortcoming of my note 3 was the weak speaker.
Thanks fellow xda'er.
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i live in a rural area and while in the house i barely get 3g and occasionaly switch to the roaming tower. outside lte and was able to stream spotifiy for 3 hours while cutting the grass without problem. coming from a note 2 it's a huge improvement (used get 1x out there or 3g with no throughput). my n6 on verizon is pretty much the same, but i get a slightly better lte signal in the house by the only window where i can catch it - the note 5 sprint does the same, but just not as strong.

On t-mobile its amazing. I have super strong signal and even gets me through old dead zones near my house without dropping calls. so color me impressed. I would say its MUCH MUCH better than the note 3, I was always loosing signal bars when driving but night and day from work to back now, no more dropped calls/dropped internet

5G speeds in the UK

Hi
I'm currently considering buying the Pixel 5, but was wondering if anyone had used the 5G service from EE in the Uk. What is the connection like and what speeds are you getting compared to 4g?
I live close to Liverpool and according to EE map I should get good coverage, although it doesn't mention indoors or outdoors reception.
Neil

Hi I'm with pixel 5 on EE , I'm in Edinburgh and the 5g speeds go up to the disappointing 70Mbps , but 4g is even more disappointing with 18Mbps , when the upload speeds are practically the same ???

No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.

Adrianfranc0 said:
Hi I'm with pixel 5 on EE , I'm in Edinburgh and the 5g speeds go up to the disappointing 70Mbps , but 4g is even more disappointing with 18Mbps , when the upload speeds are practically the same ???
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Hi
My 4g speeds at home are 75Mps so im hoping for quite good 5G speeds, only thing im worried about is the performance of the 5G on the pixel, still trying to decide on this one thought.

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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I have a huawei P20 Pro and getting 75Mps on tests so I would like to see an improvement on this with the Pixel 5, havent quite decided whether to go for it yet but will post results here If I do

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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Here's a good article on 5G even though he focuses on the iPhone 12. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/technology/personaltech/apple-iphone-12-review.html

Thanks for that interesting to see the variance in speeds,, and one thing that concerns me is if the pixel 5 modem in the 765g chipset is good enough to pick up weak signals in the area?

MrBelter said:
No wwWave on the Pixel 5 outside of the states so we're never going to see eye watering speeds, you should see is some improvement over 4g (as demonstrated by Adrianfranc0) but more importantly 5g gives a huge increase in capacity. The speeds you do get will be constantly higher and not drop to a dribble when the cell fills up (which with 4g isn't that many connections). That said used to see nearly 250Mbit down 90Mbit up on 4g using my +1 7t, I'll be miffed if the Pixel 5 cannot manage anything like that.
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I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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The 4A is too big otherwise I'd get it. Bigger battery on the 5 also but not by that much.

I tested Three's new 5G network in South London on my Pixel 5 and I was surprised to see peak speeds of around 300Mbps download which settled at an average of ~180Mbps. See enclosed Speedtest snapshot. Uploads speeds were disappointing at around 10-20Mbps. Still, much faster my Sky home broadband and much much faster than 4G. My usual 4G downloads at home averages 26-30Mbps and my Sky broadband is ~75Mbps.

As stated the difference in price is only 100 not 200 as in the states. The 5 is waterproof, which in the uk is kind of necessary, it's a better size, in my opinion, it has a bigger battery, better screen, more ram and the metal body would seem to be a stronger build. So that's why I would choose the 5 over the 4a 5g.

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I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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As stated the difference in price is only 100 not 200 as in the states. The 5 is waterproof, which in the uk is kind of necessary, it's a better size, in my opinion, it has a bigger battery, better screen, more ram and the metal body would seem to be a stronger build. So that's why I would choose the 5 over the 4a 5g.

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I tested Three's new 5G network in South London on my Pixel 5 and I was surprised to see peak speeds of around 300Mbps download which settled at an average of ~180Mbps. See enclosed Speedtest snapshot. Uploads speeds were disappointing at around 10-20Mbps. Still, much faster my Sky home broadband and much much faster than 4G. My usual 4G downloads at home averages 26-30Mbps and my Sky broadband is ~75Mbps.
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We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building

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We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building
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These were done outside whilst in a car park. I haven't got 5G in my area just yet so can't test indoors.

sidhaarthm said:
These were done outside whilst in a car park. I haven't got 5G in my area just yet so can't test indoors.
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Thanks, hopefully I'll take the plunge and see what it's like near me and I'll post the results here

spikeydoo2006 said:
The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.
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We're these speeds done indoors or outside, from what I gather here it's pretty disappointing whilst your inside building
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Thanks guys, I learned a lot from you guys today!

JimSmith94 said:
Thanks guys, I learned a lot from you guys today!
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I've ordered my pixel 5 so fingers crossed when I get it it delivers what it promises

JimSmith94 said:
I'm still on my trusty Pixel 2 XL in the US but will almost surely get the Pixel 5 for the strong 5G and hopefully soon mmWave in my neighborhood. Since the UK doesn't have mmWave, why are you all buying the Pixel 5 instead of the less expensive 4A5G without mmWave?
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Better build, i don't want a headphone jack, smaller size, bigger battery.
The Pixel 5 seems to hold up very well indeed on mmWave https://youtu.be/n6M3wOXt0YY

spikeydoo2006 said:
The UK Pixel 5 doesn't have the mmWave compatibility, just the sub-6 5g option. That part was only included in US devices. That's why the Pixel 5 in the US costs $699 instead of $599. Also why it's cheaper to buy in other regions.
Here in the UK the Pixel 4a 5G costs £499 and the Pixel 5 costs £599. So the prices are much closer. With the added benefits, I think the 5 is the better option here.
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I wonder if people in the US will be able buy the UK version to save a few bucks if they're not interested in mmWave?