3G Reception and Battery Life - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a Diamond 2 to replace my iPhone 3G. I'm wondering how the 3G reception and battery life compare with the iPhone.
Best regards, Simon.

sjbale said:
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying a Diamond 2 to replace my iPhone 3G. I'm wondering how the 3G reception and battery life compare with the iPhone.
Best regards, Simon.
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1. 3G reception is similar to iPhone 3G...unfortunately
2. battery life depends on usage, I'd say it is comparable
I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed with the Diamond 2.
I can't see real differences compared to the Diamond, maybe the better camera (it really takes good pictures in good light but the object doesn't need to move), the better (bigger) display, the improved Touchflo (still MILES away from iPhone usability) and the pretty loud loudspeaker. Reception, especially 3G, is subpar compared to devices like Nokia E75 or E90.
HTC urgently needs to address the reception issues but I'm really not sure a radio FW update will substantially improve things, I can only hope for it.

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Go the "Tilt" way

A small article portraying kaiser is here. Any suggestions please?
Regards,
Carty..
"Another impressive factor is battery life..."
You are kidding me right? You are correct that this phone has wonderful features - it is the best phone by far. But one of them is NOT the battery life - everyone is working hard on getting the battery to last longer but stock from AT&T and moderate usage you will be lucky to get 8 hours out of your battery.
Just my opinion.
Bill
LOL I think my 2 year old Treo650 has better battery life then my tilt.
Just 8 hrs? That's bad.. When I used it came almost a day but ofcourse lesser than other devices. Anyway, I removed that line and added the poor battery performace at the end of the article.
Regards,
Carty..
It's all relative - for the all the functionality the Kaiser has (including very power hungry HSDPA) I think the battery's pretty good. I routinely get two days out of mine, which for a powerful PDA and phone combined isn't bad at all, IMO.
With this type of device, anything over a day is a bonus.
What's up with your site? I followed your link and Norton informed me that it blocked an attack on my computer.
Carty said:
A small article portraying kaiser is here. Any suggestions please?
Regards,
Carty..
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"prise open" ???
TeleNav - while cool - is not obvious to the initial user that you have to have a cell phone signal for it to work. In other words - when you r cell phone has no signal and you cannot call someone for help, your navigation system iis also down. This is not a TILT problem - just that you mention TeleNav and I think it should be mentioned.
Thanks for listening.
Bill
whk said:
"Another impressive factor is battery life..."
You are kidding me right? You are correct that this phone has wonderful features - it is the best phone by far. But one of them is NOT the battery life - everyone is working hard on getting the battery to last longer but stock from AT&T and moderate usage you will be lucky to get 8 hours out of your battery.
Just my opinion.
Bill
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batt life is trash, but if you have 3G to autoturn off after a couple of minutes you can get 48 to 70+ hours. Ilve been getting good life because of that. try it.
I have used Kaiser Tweak to turn things off automatically and you are right - it improves the battery life.
This gentleman is writing a review of the stock phone and had in the article that the battery life was wonderful. My comments were directed to THAT specific comment that the STOCK delivery ROM and battery life were somewhat less than wonderful.
Now -the fact that you can hack your phone and get a better battery response is also truly wonderful about this phone.
But I doubt that he wants THAT in the article.
Thanks
Bill
I use everything that my Kaiser has to offer, including GPS, long-term tethering, videos.. and I don't think that my battery life is bad. It's actually quite good, and when it comes to all the features that Kaiser has to offer - it's not bad at all.
On standby it can easily last for several days.. and since I charge/recharge/connect/sync it all the time, battery was never a problem for me.
Just my $.02
DarkDvr said:
It's actually quite good, and when it comes to all the features that Kaiser has to offer - it's not bad at all.
Just my $.02
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So - as delivered by AT&T - with no adjustments (like the normal person would make no adjustments and only have the AT&T store to help them) your phone had great battery life and you had no issues?
Or - (as I suspect) you have to download Kaiser Tweak and load another ROM or radio to get this significant good battery life?
This guy is writing an article on the STOCK AT&T TILT phone and it's features.
Bill
ChumleyEX said:
LOL I think my 2 year old Treo650 has better battery life then my tilt.
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I should hope so - the Treo 650 has an anemic processor, little memory, and no 3G.
with an 8 hour battery life there isn't too many phones (in the US) that can get near that mark..
of AT&T's active lineup:
LG Shine: 2-3 hours talking
Razr (depending on software vers), Nokia 6555: ~4
w580's: ~7-8
comparing the tilt to other phones (from AT&T), that are currently on the line of active phones, it's on the high end in the top 3 or so..
of course, that assumes your not using BT, GPS, 3g (HSDPA is not an option on a stock rom/no tweaks)..
So, it is an upgrade, but yeah.. my 755p lasts years by comparison (but again, hardly use it as it doesn't have all the same fun features & tweaks)
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I should hope so - the Treo 650 has an anemic processor, little memory, and no 3G.
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Well, you don't need a V8 6-liters engine on Mazda Rx-7 or Rx-8 to make it runs damn fassst, do you? Furthermore, treo palm OS have some 3rd applications that make PPC WM users become jealous e.g callrec, takephone, pocket-tunes and many more.
BTW, does iphone have 3G, yet?!

Diamond or Touch 3g ?

Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
ryanburger said:
Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
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I guess this all depends on where you live if you want 3G or not. Example: 3G is on the Touch 3G is only available in Europe and not North America. Thus no 3G if that matters to you. On the Diamond, 3G is pretty much world wide.
It's best to get more detail....here
ryanburger said:
Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
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Diamond all the way. The specs and usability are twice as good as a Touch3G. The only advantage of the Touch3G would be Footprints (yup the VGA version of Footprints is bug central ).
Can you explian what footprints are? Excuse my ignorance. Also will use the phone in UK. Just that the Touch 3g seems marginarly faster when using the touchflow interface. But the screen on the diamond is nice. R
footprints i think is just an extra tab on touchflo, where you can take snaps, add texts and upload them somwhere to the world wide web.
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footprints i think is just an extra tab on touchflo, where you can take snaps, add texts and upload them somwhere to the world wide web.
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It adds GPS-data to your photos so you and others can see where in the world the photo was snapped.
Pros Touch3G = better processor
Pros Diamond = TFT3D, VGA
about model, color etc, depends on you
This was the same confusion when i wa about to buy diamond. Now post buying diamond...its Diamond anytime anywhere in the world
I vote for diamond beside the design very elegant you also will get that you want on that phone
I have tried both Diamond and Touch 3g over the last few days and the diamond is much nicer with more features, however the battery life is terrible. I tried to show someone the features of it and within minutes I could see the battery life fading away. The touch 3g on the other hand (although fewer features) seems a little faster and to be honest, unless you use camera or GPS regularly, I can probably get by with less features. FM radio for instance. I cant remember when I used the headset on my last phone, finding it an optional extra that's not needed.
I must admit, I have difficulty resisting all the latest bangs and whistles gadjets but secuming to the high price tags and poor battery life etc when in reality I hardly use all of the features advertised.
R
ryanburger said:
I have tried both Diamond and Touch 3g over the last few days and the diamond is much nicer with more features, however the battery life is terrible. I tried to show someone the features of it and within minutes I could see the battery life fading away. The touch 3g on the other hand (although fewer features) seems a little faster and to be honest, unless you use camera or GPS regularly, I can probably get by with less features. FM radio for instance. I cant remember when I used the headset on my last phone, finding it an optional extra that's not needed.
I must admit, I have difficulty resisting all the latest bangs and whistles gadjets but secuming to the high price tags and poor battery life etc when in reality I hardly use all of the features advertised.
R
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Actually a Diamond will get insane battery life. It just depends on the ROM being used. In about 6 hours of moderate use, I have 82% of my battery left from a full charge. Just throwing that out there.
What ROM is that? I have updated to the latest from HTC namaely 2.03.405.3 WWE . It does run faster but I had to charge it twice at work today after showing someone google maps on HSDPA . I think it looks great but £G seems faster and more reliable. Thanks Ryan

Reception quality

I compared the reception quality on my TD2 against my N95 8GB and it is a huge difference. Whereas my Nokia gets almost full Turbo3G signal in my apartment, my TD2 gets 1 bar at most, but most of the time it switches to GPRS.
Does HTC have a very weak antenna or is this maybe going to be better with a Radio upgrade??
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I compared the reception quality on my TD2 against my N95 8GB and it is a huge difference. Whereas my Nokia gets almost full Turbo3G signal in my apartment, my TD2 gets 1 bar at most, but most of the time it switches to GPRS.
Does HTC have a very weak antenna or is this maybe going to be better with a Radio upgrade??
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Diamond 2 rom upgrade available for Asian Market (11.5.2009);
Wait for WWE...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514092
We can only hope that it will be out for WWE very soon

Is reception on the Captivate that much worst than my Tilt2 ?

I am beginning to lose my cool when it comes to reception and my Captivate.
At work I used to watch a lot of youtube on my Tilt2 and altough it some times went on a wont connect spree....most of the times youtube was a no problem.
Unfortunately the Captivate is like almost never connects or just a little bit and once again loses it.
Is this about the whole hspa thing?
Even at home when reception is better for both, South Park is a lagfest with the Captivate if I use 3G unlike the Tilt2 but then again that could also be Skyfire....in any case...is this normal?
I guess you have never used and iPhone???
I had an iPhone 3GS and it was a POS when it came to reception.
I'm sooooooo happy I'm finally able to have an android phone on AT&T.
It takes some getting use to compared to the iPhone. Just basic navigating through the phone is very different.
I don't mind dealing with some minor flaws of the Galaxy S because I know for sure this phone will be improved because it was released on all four major carriers, not to mention it was already out as the GT i9000.
anyway - just my thoughts
sorry - I know this didn't answer your questions but wanted to share
Never had an iphone and never will! lol
Its just that I love this phone so much that I just cant stand it that reception is hurting me this badly...I just need to be patient I guess.
Like on the weekend... instead of streaming a soccer game to my Android I had to ask my wife for the Tilt2 again to watch the game with some friends at the park...
No. My tilt2 got sligltly better reception too. It OK I love my captivate.
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Man, you guys are killing me. I have a Tilt 2 with Energy ROM and for the most part I'm happy with it, but I'm just dying to upgrade to a Captivate, but I keep hearing about reception problems. On the other hand, if you Google any phone these days you hear about reception problems. If you guys are saying the reception is worse than my Tilt 2 I'm just not sure I can live with that though. I frequently work on drilling rigs where reception is pretty bad to non existent. I'm thinking about just swapping out my Tilt 2 for a new one since the keyboard is wearing out, but for $125 deductible, an upgrade sounds pretty good.
Reception is the same or better from my original Tilt.
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Man, you guys are killing me. I have a Tilt 2 with Energy ROM and for the most part I'm happy with it, but I'm just dying to upgrade to a Captivate, but I keep hearing about reception problems. On the other hand, if you Google any phone these days you hear about reception problems. If you guys are saying the reception is worse than my Tilt 2 I'm just not sure I can live with that though. I frequently work on drilling rigs where reception is pretty bad to non existent. I'm thinking about just swapping out my Tilt 2 for a new one since the keyboard is wearing out, but for $125 deductible, an upgrade sounds pretty good.
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I would upgrade if I were you.
As much as I liked my Tilt2 there is no way I would go back to it after being using the Captivate. The speed difference is just too much.
So much that I have gone from fancy Energy Roms on my wife's now tilt 2 to the simplest and fastest 2.1 ROMS I can get so it does not feel too slow.
Tilt2 has had numerous radio upgrades you can install since it came out
I would imagine when samsung releases some radio revisions we will have better luck with reception.
I really have not noticed the Captivate having significantly less reception than the tilt2. Now for battery low on the other hand.....
For me the difference is obvious even on stock tilt 2 radio.
For example watching you tube at work with my tilt 2 it was almost always a non issue but with my Captivate I get several disconnections and most of the times I have to go to low quality mode to get a decent experience.
Still, no way I am going back to the Tilt2 ...wish I they could finally get android running on it...that would make it a much nicer phone I think
I dunno, I've had noticeably worse reception on my captivate than my old blackberrt 8310
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shaolin95 said:
I would upgrade if I were you.
As much as I liked my Tilt2 there is no way I would go back to it after being using the Captivate. The speed difference is just too much.
So much that I have gone from fancy Energy Roms on my wife's now tilt 2 to the simplest and fastest 2.1 ROMS I can get so it does not feel too slow.
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See, this doesnt make sense to me. After all it is a PHONE first, everything else second. So you're willing to sacrifice reception ability for speed of user interface, etc? Why? In your post you were just complaining about how poor the captivate's reception is vs. the tilt 2, yet you'd recommend the captivate because it has a faster CPU or slicker UI than the tilt2? Why not just carry two phones, one to actually use as a phone and one as a toy? That makes about as much sense to me. JMO.
derek4484 said:
See, this doesnt make sense to me. After all it is a PHONE first, everything else second. So you're willing to sacrifice reception ability for speed of user interface, etc? Why? In your post you were just complaining about how poor the captivate's reception is vs. the tilt 2, yet you'd recommend the captivate because it has a faster CPU or slicker UI than the tilt2? Why not just carry two phones, one to actually use as a phone and one as a toy? That makes about as much sense to me. JMO.
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Ok first I think someone forgot his pills this morning
First reception not extremely poor compared to the tilt2 just youtube freezes more often at work which is a hard place for every phone for some reason. The Tilt2 was better but I did had to switch radios from time to time like something will change then a new radio will do better for this month or so.
Second, this is only for video watching...phone calls I have zero issues in quality or connectivity so far...yes it is a phone so that IS the main reason to have it.
The main issue has been Skyfire but I got confirmation from the developer that this is indeed a matter of Skyfire on the Android not being quite up to par yet to the Windows version but they are of course working on it.
So, today for example, I have been connecting to the market and downloading stuff and even watching youtube quite smoothly.
So in my first post I gave the impression it was a huge difference it was based on SouthPark and Skyfire.
So if you are able to calm down a bit feel free to rejoin the conversation but if you are going to go off like that then by all means, there are more threads around.
Regards
Well I'm glad I found this thread. When first hearing about the Captivate I was not very interested due to concerns about the Samsung interface, reception issues and GPS issues. I was also really hoping for a 4.3" screen and possibly front facing camera and a flash.
Now after reading that the GPU is top notch, GPS issue is fixed, or will be soon, and reception is generally fine I'm very much leaning toward the Captivate. Samsung interface seems to be not as bad as I initially though, and the speed is plenty fast enough even without froyo. Also NewEgg has them for $79 with a contract renewal.
I have to say I really love the new MaxSense ROM's from Energy though. I hope I can make Android look that good once I take the plunge. I'm still worried about the lack of hardware keyboard too, mostly the fact that it covers half the screen when using it.
For what it's worth:
I've owned a Tilt2 for 3 months, tried out pretty much all the available radios, and have a pretty good judgement of it's reception. I've also owned a Tilt (Kaiser) for almost 2 years.
My Captivate gets much better reception than either phone: I get solid HSDPA reception in places where neither my Tilt/Tilt2 could. The trick is to just ignore the signal bar. I live in an area with poor reception, even after the 850 MHz upgrade, and at times my phone shows no bars, but gets good quality voice/data reception. So don't rate your impressions of signal quality based on the on-screen display, only how the device actually performs.
And as far as GPS goes, I've head-to-head compared it against my Tilt2 (which has a pretty decent GPS) and the hardware itself is more sensitive, and sees 3-4 satellites indoors in places my Tilt2 can't. There are definitely weird and inconsistent problems getting/holding a lock, but to me it feels like a kernel or other software issue. So hopefully a solution can be found (by Samsung or Devs).
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For what it's worth:
I've owned a Tilt2 for 3 months....
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Thanks for the input. That's good to hear considering I'm fairly happy with the reception on my Tilt2. I have to say the GPS is inconsistent though. Sometimes it won't even pick up outside. I'm thinking about heading to Best Buy this weekend to pick up the Captivate and give it a try. I'm really looking forward to the improved video performance, bigger screen, and a standard headphone jack.
Shammyh said:
For what it's worth:
I've owned a Tilt2 for 3 months, tried out pretty much all the available radios, and have a pretty good judgement of it's reception. I've also owned a Tilt (Kaiser) for almost 2 years.
My Captivate gets much better reception than either phone: I get solid HSDPA reception in places where neither my Tilt/Tilt2 could. The trick is to just ignore the signal bar. I live in an area with poor reception, even after the 850 MHz upgrade, and at times my phone shows no bars, but gets good quality voice/data reception. So don't rate your impressions of signal quality based on the on-screen display, only how the device actually performs.
And as far as GPS goes, I've head-to-head compared it against my Tilt2 (which has a pretty decent GPS) and the hardware itself is more sensitive, and sees 3-4 satellites indoors in places my Tilt2 can't. There are definitely weird and inconsistent problems getting/holding a lock, but to me it feels like a kernel or other software issue. So hopefully a solution can be found (by Samsung or Devs).
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Oh no, my impressions were not based on bars...in fact, you will see not a single comment about those I think. That is irrelevant to me.
Although as I mentioned on my previous post, without considering the differences between the Skyfire performance, the difference is not that big.
How are you getting HSDPA on that phone, I thought the hack was not working for ATT?
Phytrax said:
Thanks for the input. That's good to hear considering I'm fairly happy with the reception on my Tilt2. I have to say the GPS is inconsistent though. Sometimes it won't even pick up outside. I'm thinking about heading to Best Buy this weekend to pick up the Captivate and give it a try. I'm really looking forward to the improved video performance, bigger screen, and a standard headphone jack.
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I am sure you are going to love it.
I was afraid of going away from the keyboard but Swype is sweet too.
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See, this doesnt make sense to me. After all it is a PHONE first, everything else second.
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If reception is primary concern I hear the Jitterbug gets good reception?
Seriously there has been a slightly weaker signal for me but we are talking less than 10%.
P.S. map your coverage if AT&T gets bad enough coverage maps from real use they will have to fix their coverage.
My reception has been great with my Captivate, it drops less calls than my iPones and Nexus One did....my Blackberry Bold is still the king though (always had great reception with it, and battery life was insane). I do however have issues with AT&T's network in the DC/Baltimore area...theres just so many people using data that everything I do lags and takes twice as long, and I've almost never been able to watch Youtube videos in Hi-Def while on 3G...on ANY of my phones while in a populated area, but it works fine at my parents house and when connected to our 3G microcell at home. I think the Captivate works great as a phone and the 4" screen seems like it sits right in the middle of being too large and too small, meaning its perfect for me. I owned a Tilt2 and couldn't stand it after owning iPhones and the Sprint Hero...I loved the keyboard but signal strength and the browser killed it for me, it only lasted 2 weeks before it went back. Give me the Tilt2 form factor with the Captivates screen and guts on AT&T and it'll be my next phone lol.
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Oh no, my impressions were not based on bars...in fact, you will see not a single comment about those I think. That is irrelevant to me.
Although as I mentioned on my previous post, without considering the differences between the Skyfire performance, the difference is not that big.
How are you getting HSDPA on that phone, I thought the hack was not working for ATT?
I am sure you are going to love it.
I was afraid of going away from the keyboard but Swype is sweet too.
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As I understand, it's HSUPA (uplink) not HSDPA (downlink) that's the problem. Without HSDPA, we'd all be getting download speeds of less than 1 Mbit/s. And since the hardware supports it, it's only a matter of time before someone releases a working HSUPA radio.
It really is a great phone though. And for me, the biggest deal-breaker over the iPhone4 (and most other phones) is that I can simply drag-and-drop video files from my computer to my phone. From simple Xvid/Divx/OtherAVI files, to 720p HD MKV files. No transcoding, or other work required.
Don't buy it expecting it to be flawless though, the underlying hardware may be, but without XDA and the community to fix the software flaws, it wouldn't be nearly as appealing a phone.
Well I found a guy selling a Captivate on eBay for $400. My contract isn't due for an upgrade yet so I figured what the hell, if they come out with something amazing next year I could use my upgrade then. I'm definitely looking forward to the h264 decoding and "5.1" sound. I just hope I can find some widgets to make the interface look as awesome as my Energy MaxSense ROM on my Tilt2.

WiFi reception good or bad?

I read quite a few people saying they have bad WiFi reception with the Nokia 8, is it a widespread issue? What's the problem with the phone causing it to have less than average WiFi reception? Thanks
emmanuelw said:
I read quite a few people saying they have bad WiFi reception with the Nokia 8, is it a widespread issue? What's the problem with the phone causing it to have less than average WiFi reception? Thanks
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Absolutely no issues with mine regards reception.
Same here wifi works very good here
Powered by Nokia 8
Works great here, it is better than my Moto G5 Plus and Moto X Play.
All good. No issues at all.
5Ghz seems to be even stronger than on my previous moto x force.
Hmm you all seem to be happy with it so it must be that the negative reviews I read are just individual concerns
For me wifi is great but normal network signal is not as good as my previous P9.
Where I got H+ I am now only getting 3g in some places.
Absolutely excellent!
Much better than my HTC 10!
The 4G signal too! Almost full signal where others come with two bars.
Sent from my Nokia 8!
Luhccas-X10 said:
Absolutely excellent!
Much better than my HTC 10!
The 4G signal too! Almost full signal where others come with two bars.
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Yep. WiFi range is phenomenal by comparison to the 10
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Yep. WiFi range is phenomenal by comparison to the 10
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I read that the HTC 10 is not really such a champion of WiFi in fact quite the opposite... It might be better to compare it to Samsung S7 or iPhone 6 or 7... How does the Nokia 8 WiFi reception and range compare to these phones please?
emmanuelw said:
I read that the HTC 10 is not really such a champion of WiFi in fact quite the opposite... It might be better to compare it to Samsung S7 or iPhone 6 or 7... How does the Nokia 8 WiFi reception and range compare to these phones please?
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No it wasn't but it's the last baseline I have.
emmanuelw said:
I read that the HTC 10 is not really such a champion of WiFi in fact quite the opposite... It might be better to compare it to Samsung S7 or iPhone 6 or 7... How does the Nokia 8 WiFi reception and range compare to these phones please?
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The best what you can do, try it by yourself with iPhone and Sammy phones. All reviews are personal opinions and feels. Btw sry for my bad English I hope you can understand what I mean. I'm not native English
Powered by Nokia 8
emmanuelw said:
I read that the HTC 10 is not really such a champion of WiFi in fact quite the opposite... It might be better to compare it to Samsung S7 or iPhone 6 or 7... How does the Nokia 8 WiFi reception and range compare to these phones please?
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Better than S7 Edge too, both ways. (GSM and WiFi)
My sister have one.
The transfer over WiFi is faster too!
I use MyPhoneExplorer to manage apps/files sometimes and transmission speed are up to 5mbps on Nokia 8, when the S7E got a maximum of 2.6mbps

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