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Kaiser from users point of view

Dear all
I had an i-mate JasJam and sold it, then baught myself a HTC Touch but not happy with the performance.
I am thinking of buying a HTC TyTn II.
Reading all the reviews over the web is not good enough to make a good decission.
The best thing is to hear from the actual users.
Please Advice.
Best Regards

This phone is the best there is.
The only problem (What kan be a big problem) is that the screen is very thin.
So watch out while pressing or having it in your pocket.

I have used the I-mate Jasjam and Triniy, and I can tell you one thing Tytn II is better than both of them, only thing that is bugging me is the battery life time.

xmoo said:
This phone is the best there is.
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"Best" can be so subjective to the user’s needs. I will just say, it's the best I've had so far. The ONLY issue I have right now is battery life sux. I have yet to isolate the problem with it. Some report no problems, while MANY others do. The best improvement IMHO so far over the other HTC phones I've had, is the increase in on board memory. The only apps I load to the SD card now are games.

The Kaiser is very good, and you will find 128 Mb ram a godsend after both the Touch and the JasJam.
Re battery life, mine improved immeasurably when I make bluetooth non-discoverable. Of course one should also make sure no GPS software is running in the background.
Surur

TYTN II/Kaiser is a solid in feel and performer. Wen holding the TYTN I and II, I feels very hollow/light and II ha substances, solid. plus the screen tilts so one can read/watch while leaving it on the desk.

surur said:
The Kaiser is very good, and you will find 128 Mb ram a godsend after both the Touch and the JasJam.
Re battery life, mine improved immeasurably when I make bluetooth non-discoverable. Of course one should also make sure no GPS software is running in the background.
Surur
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I got a replacement for mine when I called support over the battery issue. Before I sent the first one back, I hard reset it, installed nothing, and didn't even put a sim card in it. No wifi or BT on, I put it in hibernation and let it sit overnight. It used 12% of the battery over a 6 hour period (in hibernation). The 8525/TyTn wouldn't even use 1% doing this same thing. So, I believe there is something in the hardware of this phone is a battery hog.

I've got a Tilt and an 8525. Although the Tilt looks the same size, it feels much smaller and more comfortable in the hand. Lighter too. It makes a surprising difference. I like the non-collapsing stylus. The speaker seems tinnier to me, but if using headset, there is a sort of basic equalizer applet (though I haven't used it yet).
It has fewer buttons than the 8525. It doesn't have the two on the top for messages or IE and it doesn't have the button on the for Comm Manager, which I miss quite a lot. I also find the On/off button on the same side to be more recessed and harder to press. This is an annoyance for me because I like to keep the unit off to conserve battery but let it wake for calls, reminders etc.
I won't talk about the joy of the extra storage. The camera's nicer too, not just extra pixels but ease of use and settings. I do very much like the built in GPS. Using it with Google maps or Live Search, you can find a wide variety of local businesses including addresses, map views and directions and add them to contacts. With existing contacts for which you have an address listed, you can also get directions. I find this useful when having to pick up my kids at their school mates homes when I've never been there.
I've only had the Tilt for a couple of days and am still in the process of learning all the additional benefits

After my smartphones, i got some pdaphones : wizard, then trinity, hermes, artemis, and now THE Kaiser.
By order : Kaiser-Artemis-Trinity-Wizard-Hermes.
The Kaiser is the best phone I ever tried, and I'm not sure I'll change for Polaris.
Keyboard is cool, TouchFlo works as well, and Agps rocks. And memory and rom owns !
Kaiser rulezzzz

Battery life is better than the Hermes IMO (compared against 8525 & TyTN). The only thing that's missing is support for Qualcom's hardware video acceleration. Hopefully itnf we'll have that too....

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Battery life is better than the Hermes IMO (compared against 8525 & TyTN). The only thing that's missing is support for Qualcom's hardware video acceleration. Hopefully itnf we'll have that too....
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I'm not sure that battery life is better. Better than my Artemis, sure, but my Hermes, I don't think so.

I too had the Jasjam and the Touch and now the Kaiser (TyTn II).
By far the best specially the ample amount of RAM and ROM is probably the best part for me.
My only complaint is that while using the EDGE network the data speed I get is only half of what I get with the Touch. I have tried this repeatedly by swaping my SIM between the Touch and TyTn II and each time the same result about 100 kbs for the TyTn II versus 200 for the Touch

Kaiser:
1. is a bit heavy
2. does not have vga screen

I think Touch and Kaiser are meant for different purposes. You may want to look into Touch II if performance is your only concern. If you are really into PDA's then Kaiser is the answer.

24hrs with the phone and i love it.. yeah its got a few flaws.. i like my 8525 keyboard more.. these buttons dont seem to pop like the 85s did so it takes some time getting used to.. the phone feels soo much thinner and feels like it weights less when holding up to ur ear. its extremely faster then the treo 750v when using a custom rom (im using duttys 3). the camera is AMAZING for a phone..from what ive seen but then again ive only delt w/ windows phones since my very first phone so.. yeah

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I'm not sure that battery life is better. Better than my Artemis, sure, but my Hermes, I don't think so.
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I agree with Sleuth255 the battery life in my att tilt BLOWS away the battery life I got with the 8525. and yes, we got it, you dont think so.

camera sucks
I think the camera sucks compared to the 8525. I was able to take some good pics with the 8525, where on the tilt, they are always jaggy, i have to ask someone to sit still for 5 seconds. just my opinion.

ko0ky said:
I think the camera sucks compared to the 8525. I was able to take some good pics with the 8525, where on the tilt, they are always jaggy, i have to ask someone to sit still for 5 seconds. just my opinion.
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are u running a 8925 or a 8125 because the camera is purely just shy of amazing for a camera phone.. it has auto focus so u might have a bad phone

One more tool to increase battery life.
I just ran across a nifty little tool that lets you use just about any Pop email provider and yet get Push email from it WITHOUT using your email client to keep checking if you have mail which saves your battery.
It uses mail forwarding from your provider and sms/text messages to trigger your PPC to go get mail. As a result the battery seems to last a lot longer and you get your mail within seconds of it arriving in your POP email providers servers.
Give this thing a look. It's working just great with GMAIL. And once Google fixes their IMAP problems for PPC this will work even better. Here's the site.
http://www.qorefunctions.com/

Dear All
I would like to thank you to all of you who contributed in this thread, I very much appreciate your personal openions.
Now I have a better and clear view of the Kaiser.
Again thank you very much
Best Regards

Is the pro much better than the diamond?

I've just had a touch on contract upgrade and I'm not that happy with it, don't get me wrong, the idea behind the phone is great, it has a lot of potential. Just you gotta tweak it loads before you even use it and even then it seems a little slow as the day goes on and also battery life is awful if you are actually using the phone. Other than the obvious keyboard and bigger battery size, what improvements are there with the pro? is it smoother running with less problems? Anyone got any experiance of using the two?

depends what you want - my diamond on latest stock rom is problemn free - pro would be too thick

thickness doesn't really bother me taht much I guess. My othe rphone is a nokia n95 8gb so the pro is actually still a bit thinner. I just want fast smooth and decent battery life when being used but I need windows os for some business software I run from time to time. Just seems that everything on the diamond munches battery power, I can get my dimaond to last more than a day now which is better, but if you start using features othe rthan just phone is seems to eat the battery very very quickly, the nokia 95 is bad but nowhere near as bad as teh Diamond. Just wondered if they had tweaked the os a bit to make it more efficient

the answer is YES!
Pro is much better!

What I've seen of the Pro for now has impressed me, but I was honestly put of by its size. The Diamond is an extremely slick gadget, but for business use: of course the Pro would be better. The Diamond is geared towards the commercial market, while the Pro is geared towards the business market.

There's the thrid option now - HTC S740 http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=57634

kien said:
There's the thrid option now - HTC S740 http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=57634
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Ooooh.....now taht seems more apealing, a standard keypad !!! The touch screen thing is all well and good but basic txt messages were a nightmare. Any ideas if thats available in teh uk on contract ? Although battery life looks similar to the diamond .....

But thats 'only' a smartphone
Can't believe it has a (just) bigger battery than the Diamond though!
I find texting on the Diamond to be dead easy - which is why I am convinced I wouldn't need the keyboard on the Touch Pro (used to have a Tytn II and barely used the keyboard on that!).

you say it's "only a smart phone" other than touch screen, what would I loose out on then?

Other than the obvious keyboard and bigger battery size, what improvements are there with the pro? is it smoother running with less problems?
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No there is no difference. Same cpu and screen resolution.
TDO

The Pro has a flash

kien said:
There's the thrid option now - HTC S740 http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=57634
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It has a QVGA screen euk!

kien said:
The Pro has a flash
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Funny enough I only realised last night that the diamond didn't have one!

Does anyone know if Diamond Pro suffers from the same GPS navigation lag as Diamond?...
HastaSSSS

funny that people say that, all I've done to mine is updat eteh radio rom to teh recommended one and nothing else. I installed tom tom on it and ran it along side my nokia n95 with built in receiver (also running tomtom) and my tomtom 500 and in all fairness all three of them were withing a split second of each other on directions.....looks liek I don't get the lag issue.

Battery on Diamond CDMA Version
I have a Touch Diamond and have had for 7 days.
The battery sucks!!!
I cannot get 8 hours connected to EVDO network.
According to carrier, every application open sucks the battery juice.
On the Touch, the battery was decent, the stock battery you could get 6/7 hours with data on, Touch Diamond maybe 3 hours.
With quality aftermarket battery, I can get 8 hours with charge to spare, why?
What is the size of battery on Touch Diamond Pro?
Dave

1000 mAh
100 mAh more

tiburone said:
1000 mAh
100 mAh more
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which device are u referring to? the smart phone s740?
the touch pro is using a 1350 mah battery...

Pro also got bigger RAM and dbl the ROM... Not sure how much does that affect the performance but I'm sure it would in a degree...

pro
200% of RAM and ROM of diamond
Better battery
flash light
microSD
only bad thing is thicker and heavier.

Have anyone regretted buying HTC Diamond 2?

Any reason?
Because I'm planning to get one, looking for some feedbacks and advices.
Is in dilemma between HTC diamond 2 and HTC touch pro 2

Nope. LOVE IT!

Hi!
I can only speak for my self, but I totally love the device. If I had to choose a different device, it would have been the TouchHD, with one of the new cooked ROMs that almost makes the HD into a "large" diamond2
I guest that some would like a hardware keyboard, but after installing FingerKeyboard 2.1 the need for a HW keyboard is totally vanished.
Regards,
PK

I did regret initially when i got the device as i was moving from iphone. The sensitivity was an issue. But now i totally adore it.. So many mods, themes and apps available for diamond 2. I am so used to the phone now

Sheldon Cooper said:
Any reason?
Because I'm planning to get one, looking for some feedbacks and advices.
Is in dilemma between HTC diamond 2 and HTC touch pro 2
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i had the same dilema.
There are some pros and cons, from my p.o.v., regarding TP2, and the first is price. Does it worth 100 e. (at least)? Only for kb, no. For the screen, yes, but then we have THD, wich is bigger! What remains? Super-extra feature: conference bla-bla... no thanks, i don't need that. Anything else? Oh, camera... 5 vs. 3 Mp., so worse. And no radio.
One more: now vs. "soon".
I choose NOW.

No regrets here

Hi there,
I also love it! There is only one thing I miss from my former Kaiser and that's the Scroll-Wheel for "one-hand" usage just operated by the thumb.
I hope to get the Zoom-Bar replaced for scrolling, though.
Regards,
JTGBDR

Me tooshort battery life. soft speakers.even tweaks etc dont improve that much

Really love the improvement from the Diamond I had before. Some outstanding apps. og programs

No regrets here. Love it to death. Will make babies with it.

TD2 is the best yet from HTC IMO
LUV IT!

I must say I have no regrets buying my Diamond 2,
But there are some minor ignorances that I encountered,
But I am sure either HTC will fix them, Or you are able to tweak them.
The not so good radio reception (in some countries with some providers) will need a new radio by HTC
The not rotating applications can be fixed by a minor tweak aswell.
One thing I seriously can't stand is the incompatibility with games )
Like Guitar Hero 3, it installs great, but doesn't start (Trial by Microsoft)
Although I think if the developers of the game would put in some effort, It would work in no time.
But that's just my opinion
I hope that you enjoy whichever phone you buy
- Jeutie

no regrets at all.
Would buy it again. and again and again :-D

mokuni said:
No regrets here. Love it to death. Will make babies with it.
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LOL, same here
However, this device is most suitable for POWER USERS (meaning: you love tweaking and installing new stuff on your device). If you need a phone for calling, SMS, e-mails and a little browsing, the iPhone 3G beats the diamond2 due to it's amazingly sensitive screen and UI.
Touch Pro2 is for business users. You get a keyboard, hence it's gigantic.

No regret at all, for me it is the best WM device at the moment, and currently I prefer WM over other mobile OS (do not like symbian, WebOs not here yet, Android not ready imho (and should be installable on the TD2 anyway), and I can not stand Apple policies (much more closed than microsoft starting from an opensource OS? yuck!)
I just have compared TD2 against HD, TD1, TP1 and Omnia this WeekEnd (visited a tech supermarket that add all the phones on demo to play with), and no question, the TD2 win hands down: best form factor, design and screen compared to the others. Some people may have other preferences, but the for me the TD2 hit the sweet spot: small enough, with a screen big enough and the highest resolution (and no need to go further - I would never have though to have to say it, being a resolution freak, but WVGA for 3.2 inches really is enough).
The things I would fix if I had to design the TD3 (HTC, are u hiring? ;-) ) would be more physical inputs (side wheel, more buttons, trackball maybe), slightly larger screen by reducing the borders, battery with higher capacity if possible keeping the device the same size, led flash (more for flashlight than for pics LOL), and digital compass.
Ho yes, and a different, scratch-resistant grippy back, with the possibility to use integrated flip screen cover à la Samsung Touchwiz ( http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/review/0076/samsung-f480/page3/ ). This is an excellent idea imho, the right balance between thin device and good screen protection...
And a proc that can record and play [email protected] H264 video without using more juice that the MSM7200a ;-)
Possible imho with the current technology at a price not much higher than the TD2, but then HTC would kill its upgrade revenues...
Waiting for this perfect device, the TD2 is the best approximation right now ;-)

Sheldon Cooper said:
Any reason?
Because I'm planning to get one, looking for some feedbacks and advices.
Is in dilemma between HTC diamond 2 and HTC touch pro 2
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I love my Diamond2 - had it from the day it was released in the UK. Before, I had the S710 which was a great little device but was a bit too early, didn't have 3G. I went for the Diamond2 as I think I spend more time surfing, reading news etc. on it compared to typing. That said, because it's a much more usable device, I am finding myself typing more - especially as got internet email from work.
It would be perfect but I have the following little gripes:
I don't like the way you have to answer the phone by sliding the bar. I just can't get the hang of it and tend to end up cancelling the call.
I wish it had some form of flash - but the photos it does take when the light is good are excellent. The widescreen is an interesting mode
For some reason, it starts running really slowly after a while. For example, the rather cool animation effect when flipping through text messages becomes much slower. As does whizzing up and down the list of emails. I suspect this is a problem with Garmin XT as it does seem worse after using that program. Powering down and back on fixes it.
The battery takes a long time to charge when used in a cradle. The cradle has both USB power and data (I'm aware USB alone is slower charge). The device runs very hot during charging. When ActiveSync is running, it keeps the display/device running and I suspect it's discharging almost as fast as it's charging. Shame it can't run of pure mains power when plugged in and charge the battery separately.
There aren't enough cool apps to make it really complete with the iPhone! Where's the pouring beer and fishing game apps???
Cheers, Rob.

Some slight compatibility issues put aside (since I'm a total smartphone & ppc noob) I simply love this one!.
It does irritate me that some stuff really needs to be a special version (like coreplayer, which I've tried over and over again, but only the 1.2.5 buil 4506 would actualy install and run) But in the end, you only need one version anyway. Just hope it is the newest version....
It'll probably be fixe when new roms come out. Diamond 2 is quite a new piece on the edge...

mokuni said:
No regrets here. Love it to death. Will make babies with it.
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No regrets at all. Absolutely love mine. I take mine on picnic lunches to the beach. Just me and the D2.

I've upgraded from Touch Diamond 1 and I have no regrets... Way better than TD1.

The only thing i miss is the metal frame and stylus off the Diamond 1

Should I Buy It?

Hey guys, possibly a biased place to be asking this but is it worth me buying this phone? I would get it on Orange for £25 a month when they get it back in stock
Unlimited texts, fair few minutes as well.
What are the APPS like for it? Do the pros outweigh the cons? Easy to type?
Sorry for the noob questions but I really need a new phone and this looks good.
I was originally thinking the LG Renoir but even with custom firmware it still sounds buggy.
Just wanna hear the opinions of people who have had the phone for a while and had to time to play about a bit
Thanks
Jacob

Shoud you buy it?
I had a SPV M700 for a while but it had limited internal ram (50mb useable) which restricted use of 3rd party software so i upgraded to a diamond.
I have been using it for a week and I am not impressed.
Its advertised as 198 / 256 ram depending on the version but actually only has 105mb usable ram.
There is a lot of lag when switching programs and you miss a lot of incoming calls due to lag in the slide to answer function.
It does not have a dedicated camera button. The camera is slow to take a pic as it has to autofocus before the shutter clicks.
My biggest gripe is the navigation pad. It is very low quality and awkward to manouvre that it is almost unusable. The M700 has a high quality precision pad which is a delight to use.
Battery life is particularly poor, lasting about a day and a half.

If you flash it with good cooked ROM Diamon becomes a good device but if you want only Stock SW else it isn't impressive...
"...I would get it on Orange for £25 a month when they get it back in stock
Unlimited texts, fair few minutes as well how you pay now." the question is: How much do I pay now?
D'rath

Well I would flash it with a cooked ROM
Does anyone have a site or thread which explains all about having a phone with Windows Mobile because I have never used the software before and would like to gain a basic understanding of modding the phone.
But still, do the pros outweigh the cons?
If not what would you recomend in the same price range?
Thanks
Jacob

Read XDA forums
WM is hard the first time: you must change a lot of things, registry hack etc... if you won't do that else buy iPhone or a basic cellphone.
D'rath

Well this is one of the best phone to have...
Infact i had HTC TOUCH before...then i got Diamond...this piece of art is so cool and delicate that initially you bound to take utmost care while using it...but in couple of weeks u will fell in love with this device...according to me its one of the best device to own
dont think 2ice go for it

vishalkishnani said:
Well this is one of the best phone to have...
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I'd second that. Having owned one for about 9 months I am still impressed by my HTC Diamond even (or particularly) when comparing to Iphones, Omnias, Palms etc.
Why? Mainly because it is VGA resolution, the SMALLEST Smartphone usable I found and cute.
Main thing is to get a good ROM ( I used the NAKED 2.03 one) and software of your choice and you are done. Costs around 100 Euros for me in terms of software but now it does EVERYTHING I need and want: Calendar Thumbcal, SBP Mobile Shell, G-Alarm, Lingvosoft Dictionaries, AudioTouch, Coreplayer, and Most Importantly: TouchPAL keyboard with Multi language support, plus some freeware tools). On Top TomTOm and you are done.
Battery life is around 3-4 days for me. But the UNIQUE SELLING PROPERTY is definitively the excellent small form factor and its beauty ;-)
Plus, now you should get it quite cheap (got mine for 180 Euros on ebay MINT).

Are you sure you get that much battery life.
Cause i had heard it doesnt last long, maximum a day.
Battery life is my major concern otherwise i am getting this phone.

The best is HD (big display makes diffence!!!)
2 days could be normal but if you call a lot, web, road Nav etc battery run away
On my HD 2 day with normal use
D'rath

In all honesty, I would say do not buy it.
Not because the phone is crap; I love my diamond, there are still parts I dislike but overall it's a keeper. My battery, with normal use, some gps, googlemapping, exchange direct push, 2 other mailboxes, 2 days on battery is certainly doable. The camera sucks though...fps is too low except in the best of lighting conditions. It is certainly NOT what the marketing shows it..
But, they are about to release the update (I thought they already did in europe?)
The new HTC google phones look nice, and will have all the functionality of this phone (including exchange).
The palm pre is nice also..a coworker just bought one..it doesn't have full exchange support yet (security policies). It really does seem like a nice phone..I wish I made more money I'd just buy all the cool phones and try them out. hah
Windows mobile is too outdated...they need to really get on the ball. HTC shouldn't have to create a layer on top to make it functional. And even then..the engine running behind the scenes is too slow, compared to the competition. I really think, unless you need an app that is only on windows mobile, get one of the other 3 phones (gphone, iphone, pre), or wait.

I dont care about the camera(coming from touch), so its still better for me.
Battery life is ma major concern, if it gets 2 days of normal usage than i am getting this phone.

OK its important question, please answer it.
How much time will the battery last if playing FM radio continously????
And is it worth buying used diamond for 200 USD??

Hmm, don't use FM radio much, but a lot of MP3 which should be similar. Though continuously??? probably a cheap radio for 10 $ is more suitable??
Anyway, with about one hour MP3s per day mine lasts 3 or four days depending on WIFI and HPS usage mainly.
Moreover, you can get a 30 Euros Battery which just adds 3mm thickness but 50% more battery which I will buy for sure once mine dies.
Compared to the PRE, I or G Phone, obviously they are nice, just in my opinion TOO BIG since you cannot write a novel anyhow on the device so I prefer one which compoares to very small phones, easily sits in the shirt pocket and is lightweight. Other than that, obviously go for a newer version, you get bit more speed and screen size.
In the end, its all a matter of taste and yes, Windows Mobile is crap but with Mobile Shell and other software, i hardly see it on my device.

Should you buy it?
It all depends on the type of person you are
If you are a gadget geek and like experimenting with new software etc then this is an ideal phone because there is lot of support, free, hacked and commercial software available.
Also
If you use Office software at work and need outllook / excell etc. on the move then buy it. The GPS and wifi functions are brilliant on this phone. The GPS coupled with TOMTOM is mile better than Iphone and for a lot less dollars.
On the other hand if you want a 100% reliable and user friendly phone then go for dedicated phone as this is a jack of all trades and will occasionally let you down.
The best analogy one can give is playing games on a PC and a playstation / xbox. The PC will occasionally freeze and need restarting whereas the PS/xbox will run the games flawlessly everytime BUT that is all they will do.

Upgrading from Touch ... Diamond or Diamond2?

Hey guys,
I've been a very happy camper with my htc Touch (ELFin) running dsixda's Onyx ROM. Though not especially powerful, the ELFin has been a great package doing most of the stuffs I expect from a smartphone, but I couldn't be happier with it.
But then, as I'm sure most of you know, there comes the itch for a new toy, and the fact ELFin only has a QVGA screen and not VGA/WVGA seems to get on my mind more everday, and the fact it doesn't have built-in GPS also gets pretty annoying.
So I've been thinking of an upgrade, and right now the Diamond and Diamond 2 are on top of my list.
I am looking for a slim smartphone phone that does email, lite web surfing, the usual PDA, GPS device (I use tomtom right now on the ELFin) ... I also read plenty of ebook on my smartphone.
What I'm NOT looking for, is a multi-media player. I rarely listen to music off my phone, and almost never watch video's on it.
The Diamond and Diamond 2 both seem to fit the bill.
I like the D2 between the 2, because it has a longer screen, which I presume is better for web surfing and ebook reading. And the screen seems to be the biggest difference between the 2 phones.
The D2 does cost quite a bit more than the Diamond though ... I can get Diamond for about half the price of a D2 (~CDN$300 vs $600)
I also heard D2 that I can get my hands on are from overseas and somehow 3G doesn't work on them with my service provider (Rogers). I can easily get a Rogers branded Diamond though and get 3G. So that's another concern.
I wonder if any of you have looked into upgrading from a Diamond to a D2, and what's your 2 cents on it
Thanks in advance!

no doubt-d2

Diamond's not getting much love?
Sure, you'd expect the D2 to be better than D2, but I just don't know if it justify the premium. The D2 costs almost twice as the D1 (~CDN$600 vs ~$300) and I see the biggest difference being a taller screen, which is good, but I also prefer to have a D-pad than without ... some applications work better with the D-pad.
I also heard my friend, a D1 user, complaining about the phone not being fast enough and rather unstable. That surprised me because I am using the original Touch, which only has a 201MHz processor, but I don't feel it's sluggish in regular use (granted, I don't play video from my phone). Is it a ROM issue potentially, that can be fixed by flashing a newer / custom ROM?

D2 also has more RAM and ROM, microSD slot and a better camera. On the other hand, it still has a very similar CPU (same clock, same family).

Pro D2:
-more RAM (if needed, with Nataly 2.7, S2U2 and SPB Mobile Shell running, I only use 55%)
-larger screen
Cons:
-only few ROMs available, therefore it is still slower compared to the D1
-no magnetic pen shaft
Well, I'm not so sure if those points are enough to pay twice the price for the device.

For me, the lack of hard keys is kind of annoying on my Diamond. And the lack of d-pad on the D2 makes matters worse. Of course, that might not be an issue to you. But if you intend to play any games, that will definitely limit your selection.

number16 said:
Hey guys,
I've been a very happy camper with my htc Touch (ELFin) running dsixda's Onyx ROM. Though not especially powerful, the ELFin has been a great package doing most of the stuffs I expect from a smartphone, but I couldn't be happier with it.
But then, as I'm sure most of you know, there comes the itch for a new toy, and the fact ELFin only has a QVGA screen and not VGA/WVGA seems to get on my mind more everday, and the fact it doesn't have built-in GPS also gets pretty annoying.
So I've been thinking of an upgrade, and right now the Diamond and Diamond 2 are on top of my list.
I am looking for a slim smartphone phone that does email, lite web surfing, the usual PDA, GPS device (I use tomtom right now on the ELFin) ... I also read plenty of ebook on my smartphone.
What I'm NOT looking for, is a multi-media player. I rarely listen to music off my phone, and almost never watch video's on it.
The Diamond and Diamond 2 both seem to fit the bill.
I like the D2 between the 2, because it has a longer screen, which I presume is better for web surfing and ebook reading. And the screen seems to be the biggest difference between the 2 phones.
The D2 does cost quite a bit more than the Diamond though ... I can get Diamond for about half the price of a D2 (~CDN$300 vs $600)
I also heard D2 that I can get my hands on are from overseas and somehow 3G doesn't work on them with my service provider (Rogers). I can easily get a Rogers branded Diamond though and get 3G. So that's another concern.
I wonder if any of you have looked into upgrading from a Diamond to a D2, and what's your 2 cents on it
Thanks in advance!
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I would highly suggest u to get TOUCH HD. Its a whole lot of new experience. There are too many ROM's available. It rocks