The Magenta color is no longer offered in the new 2017 fire 7", so is it safe to assume that they will have an older root-able firmware?
Mike
mikef1 said:
The Magenta color is no longer offered in the new 2017 fire 7", so is it safe to assume that they will have an older root-able firmware?
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Unlikely - but possibly a better bet than other more popular colors.
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How can I tell which version of the Kindle Fire I have? I know its the Fire, rather than the HD, but how can I tell whether it's the v1 or v2?
I only got it a few weeks ago (was purchased 2 weeks before that as a christmas present) but it was purchased from a shop rather than from Amazon directly and so it may have been sat in a stock room for 6 months before that.
Any version numbers I can look out for?
Olly
If it's running 10.2.x it's a KF2.
If it's running 6.3.x it's a KF1.
Kindle Fire 7" First Generation or Second Generation
oliverm said:
How can I tell which version of the Kindle Fire I have? I know its the Fire, rather than the HD, but how can I tell whether it's the v1 or v2?
I only got it a few weeks ago (was purchased 2 weeks before that as a christmas present) but it was purchased from a shop rather than from Amazon directly and so it may have been sat in a stock room for 6 months before that.
Any version numbers I can look out for?
Olly
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oliverm,
Very nice present. Go into your Settings > More > Device > About
What do you see there?
Kindle Fire HD 8.9" Software Update Version 8.1.4
Kindle Fire HD 7" Software Update Version 7.2.3
Kindle Fire (1st Generation) Software Update Version 6.3.1
Kindle Fire (2nd Generation) Software Update Version 10.2.4
Kindle (1st Generation) Software Update Version 1.2
Kindle (2nd Generation) Software Update Version 2.5
I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets and also a New FireTV-Stick, next week!
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire 7 tablets (2015) models?
ulises.rodriguez said:
I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets models, next week!
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire 7 tablets (2015) models?
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Model released last fall [2015 Fire] can now be purchased w/16GB storage option. I'm hoping for something meatier like an HDX replacement. Current mid-range tablets are less than noteworthy given price points.
As you already said, the Fire7 can now be purchased with 16GB, which is really good, but I was also hoping for something better with some enhancements, like a New HDX.
I have also noticed that several weeks ago, some colors of the FireHD8 sometimes are unavailable, in very short supply or are also offered used-like-new/Used-Very-Good, what could be a sign that Amazon is preparing to launch some new models with some enhanced features.
Got the 3 Kindle Fire 7 (2015) tablets for $30 each from Amazon. They were open box returns. They are the 8gb (2015) models. I got these a couple of weeks ago and they came with 5.1.1 firmware. Amazon is still selling these open box returns.
Amazon has a department called WAREHOUSE DEALS, that sells their open box, damaged box, returns and old stock at a discount. Most items come with a warranty and are eligible for Prime shipping.
To find these deals on Amazon, go to the Amazon main page.
Select TODAY'S DEALS under the Amazon Search Bar.
Select OPEN BOX & USED on the menu below TODAY'S DEALS.
In the WAREHOUSE DEALS department, search for KINDLE FIRE.
They currently have a couple of Fire 7 (2015) tablets for around $30 (with no warranty).
These are exactly what I bought and they all worked great. These Kindle Fires arrive, shrink wrapped, with a charger and data cable. That's all that is in the plain brown box. No original packaging or printed material is included.
Amazon describes these discounted Kindle Fire 7's as having slight blemishes. My 3 tablets had similar descriptions but they were perfect. The screens were all perfect. At most there was a slight rub on the back of the tablet that you had to look at really closely to even see. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again if I needed another one.
The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM
m00head said:
The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM
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Of accurate this is a good move by Amazon. The current HD8 is a rip IMHO; a used HDX offers far more at a better price point. Too much is made over max freq and other glossy specs. The MT8163/T720 is a responsive combo when properly tuned which is all that really matters in this segment. Rootability and FlashFire support will ultimately determine how interesting this device is to the XDA community. Hopefully Amazon equips it with a decent panel (beyond resolution specs) and keeps the price below a Benjamin USD.
m00head said:
The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM
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Thank for this great news, about new Fire HD 8 Tablets!
For some reason it has been difficult to find a straight answer on this, and I don't want to buy the wrong thing.
Is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083PWAPW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ this the best Kindle Fire 7 for ROMs and rooting?
The one that is made in 2012 and has a camera is the "tate" model. The 2013 one that has no camera is the "soho" model.
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The one that is made in 2012 and has a camera is the "tate" model. The 2013 one that has no camera is the "soho" model.
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Thanks a bunch! Looks like the one I linked is the tate model then. Would you recommend one model over the other for ease of customization? (I'm guessing tate takes the cake)
jplum22 said:
Thanks a bunch! Looks like the one I linked is the tate model then. Would you recommend one model over the other for ease of customization? (I'm guessing tate takes the cake)
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I would recommend the tate model due to the long experience of modding and has Nougat.
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
bzowk said:
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
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Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
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Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
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Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
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Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
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HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
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HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
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From what it looks like so far, it looks like the current progress for the Fire HD 8 is less so "root" and more like "uncovering hidden features we never knew we could use on Fire OS".
I do notice the Fire HD 8/HD 10 have gotten more of the spotlight recently. The Fire 7 (even the 2017 version) just isn't the $50 bargain it was two years ago. The HD 8 2017 has already dropped down to only $80 new.
Less people are buying the 7" tablet now, because it almost seems "too cheap". I do wonder what the Fire tablet lineup will be next year.
I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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A gently used HDX is a far better device for similar coin. Far superior hardware and capable of running a dozen+ custom ROMs ranging from KitKat to Nougat (soon Oreo). I do enjoy my rooted 5th gen Fire for media streaming playback.
Bit confused on which ones are still rootable. Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Fire#Models
It looks like the 7th generation has 5.7.0.0 as the latest supported OS. Did Amazon patch that, or is it still rootable?
I know that some tablets past 7th gen still can be rooted, but it has to be a specific hardware version plus you have to open it up, which I don't really want to do that.
Hey Billybob. I can't speak to the 7th gen Austin model, but I have a 5th gen Ford (2015) and 9th gen Mustang (2019) that are both flashed with custom roms. I believe the Austin is still hackable, but you'll want to review the forums on doing that. Even if they patched it in software, the hardware should still be open.
For the Mustang model, only the early releases from 2019 could be flashed. I was fortunate that I never enabled wifi or connected to Amazon's servers to get updates, but many people were less fortunate.